I love the look on her face at the end of her skate... she desperately wanted to jump for joy because of her skate, but she made sure to keep her composure and wait for her marks... such class!! A true champion.
It’s wild to me that Kristi was considered primarily as an artistic skater who needed to catch up to Midori and Tonya. The reality is there is and was no athlete like Midori, who could do triple triple combinations when she was 12. But Kristi wasn’t no punk on the technical side. She was weirdly inconsistent on the triple salchow but by 1992, she was doing triple lutz triple toe, which is still an extremely tough combination today. She always had two lutzes in her programs, the flip was one of her strongest jumps. So she could reliably do 6 triples in her long programs. The only people who could match or beat that were Midori, Tonya and later Chen Lu. So it wasn’t fair to peg her primarily an artistic skater. She didn’t skate with nearly the power and speed Midori and Tonya did, but then again, no one did.
I wonder why Kristi didn’t just omit the salchow from her programs. She almost never landed it. I think ‘92 nationals was one of the only times (and a perfect performance, that one ). She could have easily just put in a second triple flip or loop and forgotten about the salchow and had consistently clean programs all the time.
@@jessicadebernard8210 Skaters were starting to attempt and land the whole set of triples which was something new at that time. Ito really started that as she was really the only one being able to do all the triples. Yamaguchi knew she needed everything in her arsenal to win and she had that here, the miss on the salchow didnt cost her because Ito had a mini meltdown and Harding missed her salchow and triple toe combo too.
@@jessicadebernard8210 Kristi probably didn't want to compete with only six planned triples vs. Ito's and Harding's seven (including the axel)... she couldn't have just subbed in a flip or loop for the salchow since she was already repeating the lutz and the toe loop.
@@ronaround74 This competition was my favorite worlds because of the fact that Yamaguchi, Ito or Harding could all have legit won depending on who hit better. Kerrigan and Bonaly were fighting for bronze. It also introduced Chouinard and Chen on the world stage. 90 was a 2 horse race with Ito and Trenary, and the next years worlds was a thorough mess in both Sp and LPs outside of Kristi.
I have such respect for Kristi Yamaguchi. It took her a few years to be on the podium at the Worlds. But she stuck to it. Worked hard. Her skating career is one to be emulated. Bravo!!!!
After Tonya Harding hijacked the US Championships in Minneapolis with a performance unlike any other she came to Munich and was the third one to skate. She set a very high bar that only Yamaguchi could clear. Those two had a good rivalry going on for a while.
Like Michelle, Kristi's program was designed to win if her competitors didn't land their big jumps/combos - it was the completeness of the package (jumps, spins, artistry/choreo) that made her special, not any single element
Michelle did not have Yama’s Lutz/Toe , nor did she have a clean Lutz. Kristi only had one lady that could’ve beaten her theoretically and that would’ve been Midori. Otherwise, she was light years of ahead of everyone else. Michelle , was frequently vulnerable from the element standpoint, but like Christy, her artistry stood the test of time
I mentioned this on the video of the Canadian broadcast: Kristi skated with a floating, zen-like quality. Her technical components were fairly consistent and reliable. But the execution - the seamless integration of her jumps with the choreography - and the way her whole body consumed and processed the music, were both unique, then and now. I think having skated pairs gave her an edge, and she was a natural when it came to ballroom dancing (i.e. Dancing With the Stars).
I must say that I prefer this 1991 Samson & Delilah program to Ashley's current one (although I think Ashley is wonderful). This program is just so delicate, yet detailed, and Kristi managed really intricate skating in-between the major elements. It's pretty much the definitive S&D. (my opinion only...others are welcome). Cheers!
Thank you for posting. LOVE her body line, her carriage across the ice, she uses her whole body. Her jumping technique is so good, tight in the air, upright, and she travels so far across the ice in the air. And she had the ability to keep her head, even when things are not perfect. She had the "whole package".
Kristi Yamaguchi has that beautiful face and million dollar smile. Her grace and skill brought back the US in figure skating to another great era. Did excellent, with Olympics and back to back worlds...incredible.
Kristy Yamaguchi - one of the all-time greats in the sport of figure skating. 1. Olympic champion 2. World champion 3. US National champion 4. Junior World champion 5. US National champion, pairs 6. Junior World champion, pairs
+Pascoe Braun I am gonna let the medals speak for themselves. In my opinion, Tonya, as good as a skater she is, was never a strong graceful and well-rounded skater like Kristi. True that Kristi had her fair share of mistakes, especially with her salchow, her well-roundedness was good enough to cover that. Tonya on the other hand had landed the triple axel. But even that jump was inconsistent. She is a great jumper, but was never well-rounded enough to cover her errors. When Tonya made her mistakes, they were more glaring, allowing for the well-rounded skaters like Kristi to rise.
She's consistent but I find her kind of boring to watch. Tonya, Midori, Nancy, Yuka, Jill, Surya all had something unique at least during that time, something specific you could watch for when they skated. Kristi was a very balanced skater, and seemed to be very sweet and humble which was nice. But nothing ever really "wowed" me.
@Parker528 Trenary continued with hopes of winning a medal in Albertville. However, her downhill slide began with the 1990 Goodwill Games where she was defeated by Kristi. Then she developed a staph infection in her right ankle and had to have surgery, knocking her out of the 91 Nationals. She made a comeback at the 91 Skate Canada but had a dismal skate failing to land a single triple. After assessing her chances, she retired before the 92 Nationals.
To be fair, Tonya most likely was disappointed because remember the saying of something that went similar to second place hurting the most. But I'd think it was more being disappointed at herself for making a few errors - which happen to be jumps she can easily do. It's a fact that the result could have gone either way had Tonya skated a perfect program.
@@tarakwannabe675luck? No, she didn't deliver the goods and Kristi did. It's unfortunate she couldn't pull it off since 91 was her best shot at a world title. It would have been nice to add that to her national title, but she got too thrown off after her triple axel landing.
Tonya was always whining about not fitting the "Ice-Princess mold" and how unfair judges were to her because of this. Tonya could have won this World Championship, but she didn't skate up to her potential. Kristi dodged an iron bar to her knee.
Only one more pissed than Tonya that night was Nancy, three years later in Lillehammer. These days everyone at least tries to feign a smile (except Polina).
for sure! Yeah, the media doesn't like to remind us of that last part......doesn't fit their hero-versus-villain and loser-versus-winner narratives......
Tonya was no lady, that's for sure. I really don't understand all the fanfare and proclamations that she was "the best ever!" I think her modern fans were too young to remember this period, and watched that dumb movie and think they know everything about FS and Tonya. Truthfully, she was not a complete skater nor consistent enough with her jumps to even really be legend in that arena (like Midori). Tonya had a solid 1991, but it was downhill after that. Her own fault too- none of that blaming the judges, society, blah blah crap. She could win when she tried (and actually trained and kept her weight down).
Kristi did the triple lutz-triple toe combo at the 1992 Olympics. I think that was her only time she did so. I also agree that this program would do well now too. What happened to the ladies? How come more of them are not doing triple axels or even a quad? Miki Ando had a quad, Surya Bonaly tried one, and Sasha Cohen was practicing one too . The men have progressed the sport with more quads, but the ladies haven't progressed it as much in terms of jumps. Yes, I was thinking the same thing as Carlos that this program was as difficult as the ones today.
She did the 3LZ-3TOE again at 1992 worlds, so it was no fluke thankfully. It seems as though the top tier today is going with a second 3-3 combo rather than a quad or triple axel. But Daleman in Canada supposedly started hitting quad toes in practice recently, so we'll see. Mirai Nagasu keeps standing up on triple axels and just needs to complete the rotations more cleanly.
Yeah, I heard that at Skate America about the quad. I'm not a big fan of Daleman because of her artistry is not really there. However, she is progressing the sport in the jumps and I hope she can do a quad toe. That would be better than Jason Brown. lol It's been impressive that Mirai continually stands up on the triple axel. Yeah, she needs to completely rotate to get the points for that much risk. She's one of the only women currently attempting it so good for her. Yeah, I couldn't remember if Kristi hit the 3lutz-3toe at 1992 Worlds. I knew she did it at the Olympics though.
Nate W Kristi also landed the 3Lz-3T at 91 Trophée Lalique (which eventually became Grand Prix France), but fell on it at Skate America. That makes 3 out of 4 tries in big competitions for the season
@Parker528 Also, since the change to the IJS scoring system, it's difficult for a country to sweep the medals now. However, there was talk that at 2010 Vancouver, Belbin & Agosto were hung out to dry by the judges because there was belief that there was no way that the judges would let North America take the Top 3 in an event that was once dominated by Russian/Soviets. BTW, where you spread the wealth only increases popularity in the medaling country. 2008 Worlds in Ladies was a good example
@Parker528 Lastly, Russia went 1 & 2 in both Pairs and Ice Dancing at the 2011 World Jrs., while at the 2011 Europeans, France was 1 & 2 in the Men's. And if it weren't for Savchenko & Szolkowy of Germany, Russia would have swept the medals in Pairs. Had the 2011 Worlds taken place, most likely Japan would have won 2 medals in the Ladies' event, while there was a shot for the Japanese Men to sweep the medals.
@Parker528 It was definitely what had happened to Ito. She was expected to regain her World Title here. The crash into the camera pit injured her ribs and did rattle her when she tried to do the triple Lutz in the Long Program the next day. With Ito have a very sub par Long, Kerrigan skated a stronger program than expected, despite the fall on the triple Salchow because she landed a 3toe-3toe combination, which was not done at the 91 Nationals a month earlier.
The crash into the pit was precipitated by the crash with Hubert in the warmup. Hubert should have been ejected. She spent most of her time lying on the ice anyway.
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Consider how Ito's technical merit was (and still is) the benchmark, Kristi coped pretty well. Her complex entrance to the jumps (footwork, ina bauer, and split jumps) would've gotten more credit under the rules today. I also find her to be technically better than Harding. Sure, Harding's got the height in her jumps, but her jumps are often off-axis, and she was also inconsistent and sloppy.
I don't' think Ito was any more consistent than Harding. Ito had nerves, Harding didn't train as she should. I never cared for Kristi's basic skating skills, in that department both women had her beat.
Kristi was definitely not stronger technically than Harding. Jumping huge like Harding vs Kristi's small jumps is a world of difference. Plus, Kristi did not land backwards on her Lutzes and they were pre-rotated.
@@vistaprimeWhat are you talking about? The fact that Harding didn't train as hard is EXACTLY why she was less consistent than Ito. Harding struggled with double axels and 3-3s all the time, which Ito didn't.
@Parker528 Ando and Asada both won medals at the Gran Prix Final. Asada and Suzuki went 1 & 2 at the 2010 Four Continents, as did Canada in Ice Dancing. China went 1 & 2 in Pairs in 2010 Vancouver. Japan went 1 & 2 in both Men's & Ladies' at the 2011 4 Continents, as did the US in Ice Dancing and Canada was 2 & 3 in Pairs.
Does anyone know what the ordinals were? I'm asking specifically about the Australian judge. I don't mind the 5.6's as much if s/he still had Kristi in 1st. I remember that Great Britain judge at '92 Worlds who consistently gave out low scores, but was totally consistent about it, and her ordinals didn't differ, so I didn't mind.
@acuison1 Um, that was the Australian judge who gave her the 5.6. By the way, Austria's Claudia Kristofics-Binder was a former World medalist in the early 1980s. Also,Karl Schäfer was a multiple Gold Medalist in the Men's Event in the 1930s, therefore, the Karl Schäfer Memorial aka Vienna Cup is a non-Grand Prix event competed each year in October. Austria was a strong force in figure skating in between the 1930s and 1960s...
@Parker528 NO SUCH THING. It's only an informal preference as the ISU believe that it's better to spread the wealth with the medals so that audiences from other countries don't feel shut out of a chance at a medal. But there have been instances since this where a single country has swept the medals. The former Soviet Union swept the Pairs and Ice Dancing medals at the 1992 Europeans, Russia swept the Ice Dancing medals at the 1993 Worlds.
I think the Austrian judge gave Kristi a very low score because it was back then that judges worked with each other. "I'll punish this skater in favor of your team if you give my skater a favorable score". Has Austria even won any medal in singles or even doubles? Really?
I enjoyed Kristis skating over Kwans through the years. There seemed to be more grace and flow to KY's plus when she hit her triple lutz/triple toe and triple flip-half turn triple toe in difft competitions it is more difficult than Kwans triple toe/triple toe. And you didnt see KY crying with disappointment at receiving silver medals on the podium, just my opinion.
I agree. Kristi skates with more speed. Also her spins were better, especially her free leg positioning. Also I think Kristi is better at clutch moments, going for triple triple combos that she’s planned.
Agreed. I enjoyed MK's skating but prefer KY's by a pretty substantial margin. You put it very nicely, it's not something I can quite explain... I simply find KY to be the complete FS, despite her jumps being somewhat small in height. She's very clean technically (although one could argue her Lutz edge I guess). But also beautiful beautiful to watch. Something about MK fell a little flat for me, maybe she lacked KY's charisma. Anyway I preferred MK by a large margin to TL. 98 OG was hard to watch.
The commentating during that time was a little cheesy and a bit excessive. Anyone notice a few elements of this program made it into her Olympic free skate program? Interesting!
i don't understand the 5.6 for such a strong program. 2 triple lutzes, a triple triple, and all triples landed aside from a popped salchow, and she had no other skaters to leave room for, and she did more than every other skater. Yet she got a 5.6. That's gotta be one of the most bogus scores ever. Tonya had powerful jumps, but she wasn't that great at jumping. She was inconsistent and never landed a 3x after 1991, and just flopped around in her performances after 91. Midori was a brilliant jumper.
I agree. I never thought Tanya was as a phenomenal jumpers as her crazy fans tend to say. When was was on, she was ON! But she also was a very lousy jumpers as well. flopping and falling all over the place. She was a Bipolar jumper if anything. Not to mention those foolish excuses she would make every time she wasn't jumping well. Skate Blade, Skate Lace, Costume malfunction.. it was very obvious the "rigging" she would do. Anyway, well done Kristi!
Absolutely a bogus score. Even if you boil it down to the most rudimentary metric, Kristi did six triples (including a 3-3 combination) while Tonya only did four of her planned seven, even though that includes the triple axel. There's no way that if Tonya's performance merited 5.8's and 5.9's for technical that Kristi should be below that. Tonya popping her 3-3 combo was the killer. I think that had she landed that, she would have won, but it would have been close. Tonya had faster, more powerful spins which rightfully earned her points, but Kristi was the clear winner in my mind.
+Grey L Slo-mo of first 3Lutz was a bit flutzed, though that wasnt really penalized back then. Between that and the popped Salchow. But Sandra was right that night, she command of the ice.
Grey L I think the judges might have been a little harsh on her. Giving her a 5.6 just because she couldn't do the triple salchow? I never knew how difficult competitions could be.
If Tonya didn't pop the 2 easiest triples she would've won. Actually, i still would've given it to her because Kristi's FLutz and Flip have a 1/2 turn rotation on the ice before she jumps. Tonya had a real Lutz and Flip and that kind of technique should've been rewarded.
Agree. She hit the big trick but let it go on the easier jumps and in the end, she had to beat Kristi on the technical mark without a shadow of a doubt. She had better speed, power and edges on her jumps , so that was in her corner. But she left the door open.
Michelle‘s coach, Frank Carroll, should‘ve incorporated a triple-triple jump combination into her program while he had the chance. Michelle could only do a triple-double jump combo in her programs. She lost to Tara at Nagano Olympics 98 bc Tara pulled a triple-triple jump combo in her LP. Michelle‘s team played it too safe. This was a coaching error. They should‘ve sensed skating was heading in a jump-oriented direction.
shihlin1 I totally agreed. While I was and still am one of MK’s biggest fans, the fact that she didn’t try and compete something harder than a 3toe-3toe was probably one of her downfalls when it came to the Olympic Games. I definitely wished she had also worked a little more with a spin doctor. As beautiful as her basic spins were, by the time the CoP came around, it was even more obvious where her weak spins came into light. But what Michelle did, she did well; I guess she relied on her tried and true elements too much. :(
Lest either of you forget, Michelle was suffering from a stress fracture in her foot that kept her off the ice for 2-3 months leading up to the US Nationals & Olympics. She was not training a 3-3 because of the injury and Frank did not allow jumps in Michelle's programs that did not have at least an 80% success rate in practice.
When I saw Tonya's face I feel sad about. Anyway, I could never be an athlete because if I were in Tonya's shoes I would feel the worst person ever. I have low self-esteem And I can understand why Tonya didn't smile and clap like Krirst to her. She was frustrated and I think this behavior is common when you grow up being abused and probably she had a little bit of low self-esteem like me since she was in a abusive relationship.
Exactly. But that's why it must be realized that this championships meant more to Tonya, as in a life situation. People such as Kristi had access to lots of things including her family, and some finances, so she doesn't have much to lose. Tonya really needed the win here to help her career, finances and of course, possibly freeing herself from her husband Jeff. That's why Tonya was and is a totally different situation on the ice.
@@alexsdb9712 Then she should have stopped smoking and trained harder with the coach who was helping her improve. Instead she got fat, smoked with asthma, and stopped working. Doesn't sound like she cared so much.
@@jondavwal13 It was over 30 years ago. During that span, the facts, factors and her life circumstance has already been widely known, which in turn helps answer most questions. But really, ask Tonya yourself.
this woman and michelle kwan could probably still win today if they choose.... this era sucks. no variety at all with this stupid points system. i love christie ness' reaction. lols both normally composed women lost it... lols..
Christy was a true champion, but Tonya always outskated Nancy Kerrigan from the mid 1980's through 1992. That was before Tonya married Jeff Gillooly the scumbag that ruined her skating career forever.
I feel a lot of the jumps were underotated and little height and just uninteresting. And lack of fluency and skating speed. A program designed to be boring and consistent and play to her strengths and hope that more technically capable skaters screwed up so she could win. For me it’s not a world champion winning skate. She got lucky.
i miss this era of figure skating..........
I love the look on her face at the end of her skate... she desperately wanted to jump for joy because of her skate, but she made sure to keep her composure and wait for her marks... such class!! A true champion.
It's incredible that 32 years later, this performance and technical content can still win medals today.
I love her reaction when she saw she got a 6.0, love it!
She looked so shocked.
It’s wild to me that Kristi was considered primarily as an artistic skater who needed to catch up to Midori and Tonya. The reality is there is and was no athlete like Midori, who could do triple triple combinations when she was 12. But Kristi wasn’t no punk on the technical side. She was weirdly inconsistent on the triple salchow but by 1992, she was doing triple lutz triple toe, which is still an extremely tough combination today. She always had two lutzes in her programs, the flip was one of her strongest jumps. So she could reliably do 6 triples in her long programs. The only people who could match or beat that were Midori, Tonya and later Chen Lu. So it wasn’t fair to peg her primarily an artistic skater. She didn’t skate with nearly the power and speed Midori and Tonya did, but then again, no one did.
I wonder why Kristi didn’t just omit the salchow from her programs. She almost never landed it. I think ‘92 nationals was one of the only times (and a perfect performance, that one ). She could have easily just put in a second triple flip or loop and forgotten about the salchow and had consistently clean programs all the time.
@@jessicadebernard8210 Skaters were starting to attempt and land the whole set of triples which was something new at that time. Ito really started that as she was really the only one being able to do all the triples. Yamaguchi knew she needed everything in her arsenal to win and she had that here, the miss on the salchow didnt cost her because Ito had a mini meltdown and Harding missed her salchow and triple toe combo too.
@@jessicadebernard8210 Kristi probably didn't want to compete with only six planned triples vs. Ito's and Harding's seven (including the axel)... she couldn't have just subbed in a flip or loop for the salchow since she was already repeating the lutz and the toe loop.
@@ronaround74 This competition was my favorite worlds because of the fact that Yamaguchi, Ito or Harding could all have legit won depending on who hit better. Kerrigan and Bonaly were fighting for bronze. It also introduced Chouinard and Chen on the world stage. 90 was a 2 horse race with Ito and Trenary, and the next years worlds was a thorough mess in both Sp and LPs outside of Kristi.
light, airy, and in control. She has a fairy sort of magic to her skating.
Class , sophistication , and beauty won on this day ! Kristi ❤️🇺🇸
I have such respect for Kristi Yamaguchi. It took her a few years to be on the podium at the Worlds. But she stuck to it. Worked hard. Her skating career is one to be emulated. Bravo!!!!
After Tonya Harding hijacked the US Championships in Minneapolis with a performance unlike any other she came to Munich and was the third one to skate. She set a very high bar that only Yamaguchi could clear. Those two had a good rivalry going on for a while.
Her skating was just so elegant, couldn't help but be amazed within the first few seconds of her performance. It was entrancing!
Quality music REALLY does make a difference.
She was always one of my most favorite skaters. She’s an amazing person and it shows in her performances.
Like Michelle, Kristi's program was designed to win if her competitors didn't land their big jumps/combos - it was the completeness of the package (jumps, spins, artistry/choreo) that made her special, not any single element
Michelle did not have Yama’s Lutz/Toe , nor did she have a clean Lutz. Kristi only had one lady that could’ve beaten her theoretically and that would’ve been Midori. Otherwise, she was light years of ahead of everyone else.
Michelle , was frequently vulnerable from the element standpoint, but like Christy, her artistry stood the test of time
I mentioned this on the video of the Canadian broadcast: Kristi skated with a floating, zen-like quality. Her technical components were fairly consistent and reliable. But the execution - the seamless integration of her jumps with the choreography - and the way her whole body consumed and processed the music, were both unique, then and now. I think having skated pairs gave her an edge, and she was a natural when it came to ballroom dancing (i.e. Dancing With the Stars).
She's a doll! So quick, compact, and pretty!
Love her reaction after the artistic marks went up. She's usually so restrained and proper - nice to see her "lose it" in a joyful way.
I must say that I prefer this 1991 Samson & Delilah program to Ashley's current one (although I think Ashley is wonderful). This program is just so delicate, yet detailed, and Kristi managed really intricate skating in-between the major elements. It's pretty much the definitive S&D. (my opinion only...others are welcome). Cheers!
Thank you for posting. LOVE her body line, her carriage across the ice, she uses her whole body. Her jumping technique is so good, tight in the air, upright, and she travels so far across the ice in the air. And she had the ability to keep her head, even when things are not perfect. She had the "whole package".
She is my favorite. She is very light-hearted and lovely. Love her!
I love Tonya she did the 3A and had a good program but Miss Kristi won this fair and square
Kristi Yamaguchi has that beautiful face and million dollar smile. Her grace and skill brought back the US in figure skating to another great era. Did excellent, with Olympics and back to back worlds...incredible.
Her dad is a dentist of course she has a beautiful smile!!!
Kristy Yamaguchi - one of the all-time greats in the sport of figure skating.
1. Olympic champion
2. World champion
3. US National champion
4. Junior World champion
5. US National champion, pairs
6. Junior World champion, pairs
+Tress Braga I found her not as god to watch as Harding, so not everyone agrees with you
+Tress Braga also didn't she fall over in her Olympic programme?
+Pascoe Braun I am gonna let the medals speak for themselves. In my opinion, Tonya, as good as a skater she is, was never a strong graceful and well-rounded skater like Kristi. True that Kristi had her fair share of mistakes, especially with her salchow, her well-roundedness was good enough to cover that. Tonya on the other hand had landed the triple axel. But even that jump was inconsistent. She is a great jumper, but was never well-rounded enough to cover her errors. When Tonya made her mistakes, they were more glaring, allowing for the well-rounded skaters like Kristi to rise.
She did it without any drama and went on to have arguably the best professional career of any female figure skater
She's consistent but I find her kind of boring to watch. Tonya, Midori, Nancy, Yuka, Jill, Surya all had something unique at least during that time, something specific you could watch for when they skated. Kristi was a very balanced skater, and seemed to be very sweet and humble which was nice. But nothing ever really "wowed" me.
this was a better program than her OLympic one, better music and choreography
@Parker528 Trenary continued with hopes of winning a medal in Albertville. However, her downhill slide began with the 1990 Goodwill Games where she was defeated by Kristi. Then she developed a staph infection in her right ankle and had to have surgery, knocking her out of the 91 Nationals. She made a comeback at the 91 Skate Canada but had a dismal skate failing to land a single triple. After assessing her chances, she retired before the 92 Nationals.
To be fair, Tonya most likely was disappointed because remember the saying of something that went similar to second place hurting the most. But I'd think it was more being disappointed at herself for making a few errors - which happen to be jumps she can easily do. It's a fact that the result could have gone either way had Tonya skated a perfect program.
I've never figured out why she didn't just throw in an extra 3-toe somewhere (and just complete the 3-Sal......since the entrance looked fine).
Agree if Tonya had landed her triple toe triple toe and 3 salcow or even triple toe double toe it would have been a tough choice.
Luck was never on Tonya's side. She could have cleaned up doing ice shows and appearances in the 90s. Such bad judgment.
@@tarakwannabe675luck? No, she didn't deliver the goods and Kristi did. It's unfortunate she couldn't pull it off since 91 was her best shot at a world title. It would have been nice to add that to her national title, but she got too thrown off after her triple axel landing.
Tonya was always whining about not fitting the "Ice-Princess mold" and how unfair judges were to her because of this. Tonya could have won this World Championship, but she didn't skate up to her potential. Kristi dodged an iron bar to her knee.
3-3s back then?!? Dammm Yamaguchi.
She had a beautuful Triple Lutz/Triple Toe at the 92 Olympics. She was ahead of her time.
Kristi Hardin-Alexander she def was not above her time . I love her but there were other technical skaters that can do the same combo
@@debrakateri2979 not in that time... there were very few 3 lutz triple 3toe etc.. not until Irina Slutskaya with her 3Lutz 3Loop 6 or 7 years later
Debra Kateri Tonya could do them
a c no, she only landed a 3-3 twice and it was an eaisier triple toe triple toe
Only one more pissed than Tonya that night was Nancy, three years later in Lillehammer. These days everyone at least tries to feign a smile (except Polina).
the australian judge is crazy
Agreed. What competition was the AUS judge watching, because clearly it wasn't the one the rest of us saw..
He placed her fifth
So damn crazy! He was obviously watching a completely different performance!
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OMG YESSSSSS She did that!!! That ending pose was everything!!! Tonya Harding finished second at worlds!! OMG I had no idea
for sure! Yeah, the media doesn't like to remind us of that last part......doesn't fit their hero-versus-villain and loser-versus-winner narratives......
@@natew5694 Nonsense!!
Thanks for sharing!!! The other videos avaiable of this performance are so bad un quality. Thanks again!
This was a beautiful program
Tonya's face at the end was so nasty whenever Kristi lost to Tonya she would smile and clap for her
Tonya was no lady, that's for sure. I really don't understand all the fanfare and proclamations that she was "the best ever!" I think her modern fans were too young to remember this period, and watched that dumb movie and think they know everything about FS and Tonya. Truthfully, she was not a complete skater nor consistent enough with her jumps to even really be legend in that arena (like Midori). Tonya had a solid 1991, but it was downhill after that. Her own fault too- none of that blaming the judges, society, blah blah crap. She could win when she tried (and actually trained and kept her weight down).
Tonya had some jealousy issues.
Kristi rules!
Even by today's standard this program would win each and every major international competition.
it would do well, but she'd probably need the 3-Sal and an actual 3-3 combo w/o a step in between
Kristi did the triple lutz-triple toe combo at the 1992 Olympics. I think that was her only time she did so. I also agree that this program would do well now too. What happened to the ladies? How come more of them are not doing triple axels or even a quad? Miki Ando had a quad, Surya Bonaly tried one, and Sasha Cohen was practicing one too . The men have progressed the sport with more quads, but the ladies haven't progressed it as much in terms of jumps. Yes, I was thinking the same thing as Carlos that this program was as difficult as the ones today.
She did the 3LZ-3TOE again at 1992 worlds, so it was no fluke thankfully. It seems as though the top tier today is going with a second 3-3 combo rather than a quad or triple axel. But Daleman in Canada supposedly started hitting quad toes in practice recently, so we'll see. Mirai Nagasu keeps standing up on triple axels and just needs to complete the rotations more cleanly.
Yeah, I heard that at Skate America about the quad. I'm not a big fan of Daleman because of her artistry is not really there. However, she is progressing the sport in the jumps and I hope she can do a quad toe. That would be better than Jason Brown. lol It's been impressive that Mirai continually stands up on the triple axel. Yeah, she needs to completely rotate to get the points for that much risk. She's one of the only women currently attempting it so good for her. Yeah, I couldn't remember if Kristi hit the 3lutz-3toe at 1992 Worlds. I knew she did it at the Olympics though.
Nate W Kristi also landed the 3Lz-3T at 91 Trophée Lalique (which eventually became Grand Prix France), but fell on it at Skate America. That makes 3 out of 4 tries in big competitions for the season
@Parker528 Also, since the change to the IJS scoring system, it's difficult for a country to sweep the medals now. However, there was talk that at 2010 Vancouver, Belbin & Agosto were hung out to dry by the judges because there was belief that there was no way that the judges would let North America take the Top 3 in an event that was once dominated by Russian/Soviets.
BTW, where you spread the wealth only increases popularity in the medaling country. 2008 Worlds in Ladies was a good example
the australian judge had kristie in 4th (!!!) place, behind tonya, midori and nancy.
Tal that is ridiculous!
Super athleticism.
@Parker528 Lastly, Russia went 1 & 2 in both Pairs and Ice Dancing at the 2011 World Jrs., while at the 2011 Europeans, France was 1 & 2 in the Men's. And if it weren't for Savchenko & Szolkowy of Germany, Russia would have swept the medals in Pairs.
Had the 2011 Worlds taken place, most likely Japan would have won 2 medals in the Ladies' event, while there was a shot for the Japanese Men to sweep the medals.
@Parker528 It was definitely what had happened to Ito. She was expected to regain her World Title here. The crash into the camera pit injured her ribs and did rattle her when she tried to do the triple Lutz in the Long Program the next day. With Ito have a very sub par Long, Kerrigan skated a stronger program than expected, despite the fall on the triple Salchow because she landed a 3toe-3toe combination, which was not done at the 91 Nationals a month earlier.
The crash into the pit was precipitated by the crash with Hubert in the warmup. Hubert should have been ejected. She spent most of her time lying on the ice anyway.
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Best female figure skater EVER.
lol 7:23 poor midori. great program though! well done kristi!
Consider how Ito's technical merit was (and still is) the benchmark, Kristi coped pretty well. Her complex entrance to the jumps (footwork, ina bauer, and split jumps) would've gotten more credit under the rules today. I also find her to be technically better than Harding. Sure, Harding's got the height in her jumps, but her jumps are often off-axis, and she was also inconsistent and sloppy.
I don't' think Ito was any more consistent than Harding. Ito had nerves, Harding didn't train as she should. I never cared for Kristi's basic skating skills, in that department both women had her beat.
Kristi was definitely not stronger technically than Harding. Jumping huge like Harding vs Kristi's small jumps is a world of difference. Plus, Kristi did not land backwards on her Lutzes and they were pre-rotated.
@@Zuranthium she also had a straight edge take-off on the lutz. Kerrigan and Tonya used clear outside edges.
@@vistaprimeWhat are you talking about? The fact that Harding didn't train as hard is EXACTLY why she was less consistent than Ito. Harding struggled with double axels and 3-3s all the time, which Ito didn't.
@@kev7978 I watched a ton of performances so this my opinion only. Both skaters were great jumpers when they were on but found neither one consistent.
I love it. There reaction to her getting a 6.0 is the best. 💕⛸
@Parker528 Ando and Asada both won medals at the Gran Prix Final. Asada and Suzuki went 1 & 2 at the 2010 Four Continents, as did Canada in Ice Dancing. China went 1 & 2 in Pairs in 2010 Vancouver. Japan went 1 & 2 in both Men's & Ladies' at the 2011 4 Continents, as did the US in Ice Dancing and Canada was 2 & 3 in Pairs.
Yess, an athlete that doesn't need to cheat to get ahead! Cough*Tonya*cough
Tonya could have tried handling her jealousy but she did not.
@Parker528 The commentator here is Dick Enberg.
Feel so bad for Tonya when she found out she lost.
I love Kristi and LOVE LOVE Tonya but Miss Kristi won this world chamionship
great music :)
The 5.6?
She was so cute
Does anyone know what the ordinals were? I'm asking specifically about the Australian judge. I don't mind the 5.6's as much if s/he still had Kristi in 1st. I remember that Great Britain judge at '92 Worlds who consistently gave out low scores, but was totally consistent about it, and her ordinals didn't differ, so I didn't mind.
@acuison1 Um, that was the Australian judge who gave her the 5.6. By the way, Austria's Claudia Kristofics-Binder was a former World medalist in the early 1980s. Also,Karl Schäfer was a multiple Gold Medalist in the Men's Event in the 1930s, therefore, the Karl Schäfer Memorial aka Vienna Cup is a non-Grand Prix event competed each year in October. Austria was a strong force in figure skating in between the 1930s and 1960s...
OMG just watched Wags skate to this... Like, literally. Love Samson & Delilah.
@Parker528 NO SUCH THING. It's only an informal preference as the ISU believe that it's better to spread the wealth with the medals so that audiences from other countries don't feel shut out of a chance at a medal. But there have been instances since this where a single country has swept the medals. The former Soviet Union swept the Pairs and Ice Dancing medals at the 1992 Europeans, Russia swept the Ice Dancing medals at the 1993 Worlds.
06:00 Tonya Harding - Where's that metal bar when I needed it?
Corny
LMAO Tonya and Nancy's face who can blame them though?
Nice program btw.
もう既にオリンピック金メダルが決定だ🎉美しすぎる💓
I think the Austrian judge gave Kristi a very low score because it was back then that judges worked with each other. "I'll punish this skater in favor of your team if you give my skater a favorable score". Has Austria even won any medal in singles or even doubles? Really?
I think AUS is Australia. AUT is Austria.
was Australia headless????
I enjoyed Kristis skating over Kwans through the years. There seemed to be more grace and flow to KY's plus when she hit her triple lutz/triple toe and triple flip-half turn triple toe in difft competitions it is more difficult than Kwans triple toe/triple toe. And you didnt see KY crying with disappointment at receiving silver medals on the podium, just my opinion.
I agree. Kristi skates with more speed. Also her spins were better, especially her free leg positioning. Also I think Kristi is better at clutch moments, going for triple triple combos that she’s planned.
Agreed. I enjoyed MK's skating but prefer KY's by a pretty substantial margin. You put it very nicely, it's not something I can quite explain... I simply find KY to be the complete FS, despite her jumps being somewhat small in height. She's very clean technically (although one could argue her Lutz edge I guess). But also beautiful beautiful to watch. Something about MK fell a little flat for me, maybe she lacked KY's charisma. Anyway I preferred MK by a large margin to TL. 98 OG was hard to watch.
True. Michelle could do a triple salcow in her sleep.
The commentating during that time was a little cheesy and a bit excessive. Anyone notice a few elements of this program made it into her Olympic free skate program? Interesting!
i don't understand the 5.6 for such a strong program. 2 triple lutzes, a triple triple, and all triples landed aside from a popped salchow, and she had no other skaters to leave room for, and she did more than every other skater. Yet she got a 5.6. That's gotta be one of the most bogus scores ever. Tonya had powerful jumps, but she wasn't that great at jumping. She was inconsistent and never landed a 3x after 1991, and just flopped around in her performances after 91. Midori was a brilliant jumper.
I agree. I never thought Tanya was as a phenomenal jumpers as her crazy fans tend to say. When was was on, she was ON! But she also was a very lousy jumpers as well. flopping and falling all over the place. She was a Bipolar jumper if anything. Not to mention those foolish excuses she would make every time she wasn't jumping well. Skate Blade, Skate Lace, Costume malfunction.. it was very obvious the "rigging" she would do. Anyway, well done Kristi!
if you watch the replay, the first triple lutz is really close for being underrotated. so she maybe she lost some points there
Absolutely a bogus score. Even if you boil it down to the most rudimentary metric, Kristi did six triples (including a 3-3 combination) while Tonya only did four of her planned seven, even though that includes the triple axel. There's no way that if Tonya's performance merited 5.8's and 5.9's for technical that Kristi should be below that. Tonya popping her 3-3 combo was the killer. I think that had she landed that, she would have won, but it would have been close. Tonya had faster, more powerful spins which rightfully earned her points, but Kristi was the clear winner in my mind.
+Grey L Slo-mo of first 3Lutz was a bit flutzed, though that wasnt really penalized back then. Between that and the popped Salchow. But Sandra was right that night, she command of the ice.
Grey L I think the judges might have been a little harsh on her. Giving her a 5.6 just because she couldn't do the triple salchow? I never knew how difficult competitions could be.
is this the year, that Ito fell into the boards in the SP?
Yes.
@slytherinnyc
I certainly do as well! Just not the same anymore!
If Tonya didn't pop the 2 easiest triples she would've won. Actually, i still would've given it to her because Kristi's FLutz and Flip have a 1/2 turn rotation on the ice before she jumps. Tonya had a real Lutz and Flip and that kind of technique should've been rewarded.
Agree. She hit the big trick but let it go on the easier jumps and in the end, she had to beat Kristi on the technical mark without a shadow of a doubt. She had better speed, power and edges on her jumps , so that was in her corner. But she left the door open.
What kind of skates did these skaters have back then?!
Starting at 2:00 for about 1 min 16 secs, what is the beautiful music piece, can someone please identify it? Thanks in advance.
Samson and Delilah by Saint-Sans
@@kennydreadfuls861 Thanks ! Know there's lotsa classical music fans here !
Michelle‘s coach, Frank Carroll, should‘ve incorporated a triple-triple jump combination into her program while he had the chance. Michelle could only do a triple-double jump combo in her programs. She lost to Tara at Nagano Olympics 98 bc Tara pulled a triple-triple jump combo in her LP.
Michelle‘s team played it too safe. This was a coaching error. They should‘ve sensed skating was heading in a jump-oriented direction.
shihlin1 I totally agreed. While I was and still am one of MK’s biggest fans, the fact that she didn’t try and compete something harder than a 3toe-3toe was probably one of her downfalls when it came to the Olympic Games. I definitely wished she had also worked a little more with a spin doctor. As beautiful as her basic spins were, by the time the CoP came around, it was even more obvious where her weak spins came into light. But what Michelle did, she did well; I guess she relied on her tried and true elements too much. :(
Lest either of you forget, Michelle was suffering from a stress fracture in her foot that kept her off the ice for 2-3 months leading up to the US Nationals & Olympics. She was not training a 3-3 because of the injury and Frank did not allow jumps in Michelle's programs that did not have at least an 80% success rate in practice.
When I saw Tonya's face I feel sad about.
Anyway, I could never be an athlete because if I were in Tonya's shoes I would feel the worst person ever. I have low self-esteem
And I can understand why Tonya didn't smile and clap like Krirst to her.
She was frustrated and I think this behavior is common when you grow up being abused and probably she had a little bit of low self-esteem like me since she was in a abusive relationship.
Exactly. But that's why it must be realized that this championships meant more to Tonya, as in a life situation. People such as Kristi had access to lots of things including her family, and some finances, so she doesn't have much to lose. Tonya really needed the win here to help her career, finances and of course, possibly freeing herself from her husband Jeff. That's why Tonya was and is a totally different situation on the ice.
@@alexsdb9712 Then she should have stopped smoking and trained harder with the coach who was helping her improve. Instead she got fat, smoked with asthma, and stopped working. Doesn't sound like she cared so much.
@@jondavwal13 It was over 30 years ago. During that span, the facts, factors and her life circumstance has already been widely known, which in turn helps answer most questions. But really, ask Tonya yourself.
This is the programme I most remember Kristi for. It’s just lovely to watch. I hated salchows too, why are they so hard 😩
😀😀😀
Her 92 Nationals long performance was her shining moment. Should've been more 6.0s ❤❤
92' was KY's yr
What was the music she skated to?
+Lauren Brown Samson and Delilah - this is my favorite skate of hers, I was never a fan of Malaguena
Not a true triple-triple combination. There was a half turn in the middle.
At 5:20, Tonya is thinking: " Damn, where was my metal baton when I needed it?"
shihlin...hahahahahahahaha...I know I am being a bit disrespectful, but your comment made me laugh out loud!
Shihlin... Agree,, so Tonia will always be remembered that way, what a shame
What were the ordinals?
What?
Knew Wagner got this from somewhere
It was also used in the 2010 Olympics by Joanie rochette
+Kris Ten Also used by Jeff Buttle in 2006
Did Kristi ever have a clean program before turning pro?
1992 US Nationals LP
What's with the first judge :)
what is up with the australian judge!! is she/he headless?!?
Tonya Harding was hands down better than Nancy Kerrigan. I also love Kristi Yamaguchi.
5.6?
The commentator comments about winning a skating competition with beauty are so stupid.
6:10
Or my gosh,
Austria. ( Australia) 5.6 5.6. Ridiculous
He was for Tonya to win
What no will ferrell parody?
very much agreed on this era of figure skating and the pathetic points system!
2:22.
It's a pity
this woman and michelle kwan could probably still win today if they choose....
this era sucks. no variety at all with this stupid points system.
i love christie ness' reaction. lols both normally composed women lost it... lols..
Dear Dick enberg... No one cares that she's a 49ers fan. LOL
Christy was a true champion, but Tonya always outskated Nancy Kerrigan from the mid 1980's through 1992. That was before Tonya married Jeff Gillooly the scumbag that ruined her skating career forever.
🙄
Flutz and under-rotated
She's good, but Tanya Harding was so much better....
For 6 months!
In my opinion i think she is overrated she got lucky at the 92 olympics
monica carranco... I guess you love Tonia 😅😅😅
Nonsense. Buzz off!!
I feel a lot of the jumps were underotated and little height and just uninteresting. And lack of fluency and skating speed. A program designed to be boring and consistent and play to her strengths and hope that more technically capable skaters screwed up so she could win. For me it’s not a world champion winning skate. She got lucky.
Asians are more methodical and very strict and functional families unlike tonjas life - so bad parents
love her! never seen anyone pop a salcow though hehe love kristi! best ever!