Vintage Kraft R/C Motorcycle, Eleck Rider restored.
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- See my Response video to see the record Jump video from a couple of years past. • Antique Kraft RC Eleck...
When I worked at Kraft RC systems, Phil Kraft gave me this bike to test, promote and have fun with. I took it to Hawaii when I was on vacation and showed all the hobby stores on Oahu how it ran. It likes those rounded speed bumps in parking lots, and we had lots of fun showing off the First Mass Produced RC motorcycle in history.
It was a challenge to make the steering work, as bikes steer different than car geometry. (Google "How Bicycles turn", to verify my comments"). The bike is fun and fast. When I took out a tooth on one of the primary gears in the transmission, I was left with no way to run it again. But my machinist friend, Dave Raubinger, who made all the parts for my Hyperfly Prototypes when I was working on that project for Kyosho, volunteered to make some gears for me on his mill. He did a fabulous job, as you can see.
The bike is difficult to run, as it must be balanced and takes a fine finger to keep it upright in turns. Here, the street is a bit narrow for the turn ratio it needs, but none the less this was a fun video to make. Thanks for watching and Subscribing.
Dave Herbert
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Amazing piece of machinery. My dad bought one around the release year, and eventually I got it handed down to me. I see the video, and Dave was using the skid guards... it actually leaned and turned better without them!! Thanks for bringing back the memories!!
So true. But at least it.never fell over on his shoulders and wear out the fabric as we did before crash bars. Here is a newer video of it as I recently got a brand new one. Thanks kindly. ruclips.net/video/j8hJp3FaF-E/видео.html
That is freakin' awesome! My Uncle had one of those when I was a little kid and I always thought that it was the coolest thing I had ever seen! He was really good at driving it and also made similar crash bars on his that he had made out of coat hangers.
You know it's wonderful to see old RC toys get a new life.
Got about 40 of these in a range of conditions.The rarest version is based on a Suzuki Katana.Its called a citirider.Last time I looked it took me ages to find it mentioned on the internet.
40 Kraft Eleck Riders!!! Yikes. I worked at Kraft when these were introduced and I only had one. Another one was donated to me after the fire destroyed everything, and I made a video on that one a little more recently that this old one, from 13 years ago. Check it out, and thanks. This one was brand new. Thanks. ruclips.net/video/j8hJp3FaF-E/видео.html
I had one of these back in the late 1970's and it was a lot of fun. I bought it from Tower Hobbies, I was around 13 at the time. I don't know if you got any of the chrome nerf bars that came with them, I think there was two or three different sets that would keep it up right kind of like training wheels, the could be changed as your skill level improved. Since Evel Knievel was so popular back then, one to many jumps killed mine, but it was fun while it lasted.
Great to hear that. After the Fire destroyed all my models, A subscriber sent me a brand new one he had in the box. I built it and here is the video on it. Thanks for commenting and for your story. ruclips.net/video/j8hJp3FaF-E/видео.html
Props to you for one keeping it going two for not letting it sit on a shelf three for actually running it! Very Kool!
Thanks kindly. It was destroyed in the fire a couple of years ago, which saddens me.
I'm sorry to hear that it saddens me as well!
@@mikesrcgarage Thanks Mike.
so cool...i love it when u fix and mod the vintage stuff :-)
Long time subscriber here, Dave has never ceased to amaze me with the things he dusts off from his collection. What I think makes his channel so interesting isn't the objects themselves so much as the wealth of easily understood knowledge he imparts along with the video. I'd also like to take a moment to thank you Dave, for your military service on this Veteran's Day. Semper Fidelis.
40 years old bike. It looks exactly like the Kyosho bike in my 1982 catalogue (you can find the catalogue online as a PDF). Did Kyosho take over from Kraft?
Yes. I hated to lose it in the big fire that destroyed all my vintage models and all I owned on 911, 2016. Kraft was sold to Carlyle Tire corporation, and finally went bankrupt, in 1982. Mostly it was because we could not keep up with the lower price of the Japanese products, which were JR PRopo, Futaba and others from Japan. Nothing was from China at the time. Kyosho was making models but not radios, so they were not involved. Thanks for commenting.
The front forks are setup wrong. The parts where the front wheel bolts to should face the rear, this way the wheel centerline of the front wheel is behind the forks themselves. That's why it turns so wide and wobbles so bad. If the bottoms were reversed the trail is then behind the fork pivot point. I own 3 of them.
Exactly. It uses counter steering to make him turn. That's why the front forks need to be trailing. Set up that way and he should turn smoothly although it will not turn too sharp. You have to be moving at a fair clip to turn or even stand up straight but it shouldn't be jerky.
omg thats so cool. even though its old it seems better than the newer cycles.
happy veterans day from an NJROTC cadet
What a fine piece of mechanic.... Thanks for showing 😊
That is a very cool little slice of history.
the more I watch your videos, the more I learn ... the steering system is smart , to say the least ... great stuff ... keep on the great job , and thanks !
what an absolute Gem . nice to see it restored and running.
Thanks so kindly. I have newer videos on it, but here is one that is 15 years old and I'll bet you will like too. ruclips.net/video/ZoXs349YK7E/видео.html
@@NightFlyyer thanks i will have a look :)
nice to see it up and running again, still fast and looks great.
My Dad still has his!! Wonderful peice of work.
just when I thought this channel couldn't get any better......... Awesome!
I had a lot of cool toys (like this one) when I was a kid....wish I would have taken better care of them, and kept them! Most of them ended up being blown-up by fire crackers! lol Thanks for sharin, Dave!! Semper Fi!
Dave you have the coolest videos always. I remember these from when I was a kid. Always wanted one. Thanks for sharing the video.
Happy Veterans' day Dave!
Great video! Love the bike!
I just got one. Do I need the transmitter or can I use a different transmitter? Mine only came with the bike and manual
Right on. You just need a 2 channel radio. I prefer, but could not find the Kraft 2 channel they came with, but I used a simple car radio with a steering wheel control for my new one. Here is a newer video, where I show how to assemble a brand new one, that I recently acquired as well. This may help you. Thanks much. ruclips.net/video/j8hJp3FaF-E/видео.html
really cool, Dave. Especially that this RC motorcycle's got a chaindrive, just like the real ones!
I once had an RC motorcycle too, but a modern one, it drove quite well, it had a steering system to shift the cg, but no tilting, it was more like "real" steering, but the front wheel moved sidewards while being turned into the direction you want to go. The bad thing about this bike was, that the tx had a crappy range so you had to run after it, that was quite exhausting haha :D
Awesome steering mechanism!
That is the same principle my brother used to teach me to ride a bike when I was 4.
Of course I leaned a lot at first. I watched too many episodes of C.H.I.P.S.
lol
Nice one handed landing!
Very cool stuff! How much would something like that cost back then new?
Hey Dave- that one's in a lot better shape than I last saw mine! I got got mine from Ray K.- needed a little tlc and was a blast to run. I set mine up to run fast.
The last good run it had it hit a rock about an inch high, doing about 30mph and it just launched the poor thing! pretty well bent up on landing. That was about 25 years ago!
Hey Dave! Great video as always. Did you ever get a chance to play with the Kyosho off road version of this bike? I believe it was a Yamaha YZ-250. I've been playing with "modern" R/C bikes for a few years now. Looks like more are coming on the market now - especially of the off road variety!
hi there, that's an amazing piece of history, and it goes really good. 😀 👍 👍 👍
Little dude made that jump one-handed. :-)
Happy Veterans day Dave , nifty bike
I replay your video many times....
You mentioned the main gear has to source elsewhere...
oh, please let me know where can you find the main gear (which can be compatible with the original), the shaft is not round make the whole thing difficult.
I hope I can restore mine also....
Wow, awesome. Thanks for the video.
Was there at one time a rear fender? The little man looks dangerously close to slipping off the back onto the rear tire......and we all now what follows that.
Cool bike!
It is great ! i have exactly the same bike but in blue, my grandpha bought it like 35-40 years ago...
I have it completelly except for the pinion gear and a broken firing.
Did you make any mod to speed control system? or you only conected lipo bat?
Great video, that old bike is pretty nimble... Dave, Thanks for sharing !
great video mr. herbert! great, little fun looking toy there!
very cool cant wait too see more videos from you.
You Sir are a Class Act. Keep up your excellent video's.
Goodness me!! How did I miss this vid? Somewhere in amongst my wealth of junk, I have the front wheel and forks from one of these. There's solid metal inside that tire if my memory serves me. And that rider had a rather sad square piece of foam for a body inside his riding overalls.
But that was countersteering gone mad!
@"49 the triple tree is on correct, but later, after the wheel cleaning, its 180 degrees off - will that make the steering a bit twitchier?
@NightFlyyer
Have you ever thought about opening an R/C museum?
that's pretty cool! just curious though, have you ever been into r/c cars?
What kind of motor is in this? I bought one from Ebay the other day
It's a 180 or slightly larger brushed motor.
@@NightFlyyer what size should I be looking for? Something fast
@@waynepryce34 Well the manual and box do not tell the size. I believe it is a 180 or slightly bigger. It is about 1 1/8 wide by 1 1/4 long. Must be DC brushed and needs a uses a rheostat, as ESCs were not invented at the time, but can be used. Prop balance for driving is key. I guess you bought it without a motor. That is too bad. Here is what it looks like. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264733654727.
Wow ! I had one in about 79, what great fun , used to play chicken with a buddies rc 12. I have know idea what I did with it!
That looks like great fun {"_*}..I remember somthing like this some years ago but cant remember who produced it .always wanted one >>
wow that was cool nice bike dave!
Dave you make a video about the history of rc motorcycle electric or 2 stroke powered?
I had this as a child...
@NightFlyyer i am interested on trying this thing at 2:45 on my push bike as im only 15, but what is coasting.. is it leaning? I live in England and don't understand what coasting is so it might be a way you Americans describe leaning or something :P Thanks in advance if you respond :)
Jup! Best one out there.
Andreas /Sweden
That was awesome. That looks kind of like I ride my bike ;)
@"49 the triple tree is on correct, but later, after the wheel cleaning, its 180 degrees off - will that make the steering a bit twitchier? oops im wrong never mind
Got my first bike in 79, and the scond one in 83. I am still playing with it. I put the receiver under the tank, remove the dummy, and add a small pack of battery for the unit. The bike was made by Kyosho.
Go to web site rcuniverse, search for BKWH59 pictures
I had this in the 1980s
Great to hear that. This one was destroyed in my fire on 2016, 911. But a Subscriber brought me a brand new one and I made a video of it last year. Maybe you saw it. ruclips.net/video/j8hJp3FaF-E/видео.html
This is cool~
Would the single rotor work on your tandem Chinook.
Great toy Dave! Nice work!
So this could be vintage Dave Night-Rider, but I suppose that name is already copyrighted. :) This is a really cool RC vehicle Dave. Thanks for sharing.
こんにちは。ＧＯＯＤ ＹＥＡＲのタイアがかっこ良いですね。バッテリーは何を使用しているのですか
Sweet jumps! :-D
Awesome, thanks for sharing Dave.
Very nice, very cool!
Aha you sure know how to have fun Dave xD
Nice, it's great to have 'kraft-y' friends, lol ;-)
hello i have same one and want to resurrected as well. Where can I do that?
cheers
That is too cool!
フロントフォークの取り付け方向が逆です！
これでは安定して曲がれません。
車軸がフォークの後側に来るのが正しい取り付けです。
Sorry I cannot read this. Thanks and also here is a newer video of the Eleck Rider Motorcycle I produced. Enjoy. ruclips.net/video/j8hJp3FaF-E/видео.html
hello dave, nice to meet u.
Mr science make the rider lean with the bike or add head and tail lights . you rock man
Straight into the leaves !
masterpiece
is this a Graupner Bike
Got my first bike in 79, and the scond one in 83. I am still playing with it. I put the receiver under the tank, remove the dummy, and add a small pack of battery for the unit. The bike was made by Kyosho.
Check here for picture
Go to web site rcuniverse, search for BKWH59
Nice Dave! Think I'll stick to rc heli's.. that looks harder to control ;o)
thats awesome
very cool ,
Why did I have to see this vid? Now you're going to 'make' me put my Eleck Rider back into running condition too! Couple things: I hated the stock steering system. At speed it was too stable and wouldn't turn; slow it down and the steering was too sensitive and the crash bars saw lots of service.
that thing is cool
I bought one of these brand new book in the day. A local motorbike shop owner (where I got my bike serviced etc) asked could he borrow it for the weekend. Both he my Eleck rider and his business disappeared, never seen it since.
Fucking awesome
imagine what a brush-less with lipo would e like in that thing.
I have pne of these in very good condition. Controller and manual. Let me knownif interested.
I am very interested Brian! I lost this one in that devastating fire and would very much be interested in it. My address is PO box 153, Sibley Iowa, 51249, iff you want to corresponded as I do not give my phone or email address out in this forum and YT no longer is doing PM's. Tell me how much you want for it here and I can tell you whether or not to send. I would make a video of it and certainly give you credit. Thanks very kindly. Dave Herbert ~NightFlyyer~
NightFlyyer my email is lipy22ance@gmail please send me a message and ill get you some pictures. Thanks again.
I’d like an RC Honda Goldwing.
Back then you were the gyro.
Haha. Yes. Back then there were no gyros for helis either.. or phones, or PC's. LOL. Thanks.
i found a vintage bike when i was 12 and my dumbass self scrapped it because i knew nothing about rc hobby so yeah i regret it alot after watching this
i think that they should do a cop case!!! XD
YAY
Just found one of these mint never ran at a flee market
hola, yo tengo una igual en azul que precio tienen esas motos?
Yo acabo de comprar una $124 la compre en eBay
cool
IV got one but mine is grupner
you should put a fastest motor
airhogs did this with their micro bike thing
I bought 3 off Ebay under 200
Right on.
"Made in USA"
I miss reading that. :(
haha the rider looks funny...:)