Dominance Reborn | Storm Revenant Review (2 bowlers, Challenge Pattern, Multiple Surfaces)
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- This is a review for the new Storm Revenant bowling ball!
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I wanted a Spectre when it was released and we all know how that went. I won the Pick of the Pro Shop raffle last week and this is what I’ll be picking. 😊
“Blowing smoke up your hee haw” would be a fantastic team name- for bowling and/or fantasy football
Update... I used 2000, 4000 CTD pads, then their polish. Love it! Bowled a 245 in league fresh house shot! Love both Fate and Revenant! Just got the Absolute... now I hear the Eternity is coming in February 😱😱😱
FYI....Reacta Skuff is about a 2000 grit. Source: amazon with the description done by Storm.
Eh, that's not correct. I checked Amazon and saw no mention of grit on any of the listings. But take two polished balls, use reacta skuff on one and a fresh 2k pad on the other and tell me those are remotely close. I'm sure Jayhawk would let me borrow a surface scanner to check, but you could ask 100 people and they'd all tell you skuff isn't close to 2k
This ball works for me. I used it in league and had a 670 series which is a little above my average. I did change the surface for consistency. I actually like it better than the Spectre.
Lol “sometimes it’s okay for bowling to be fun” 😂 another great video fam love the content 🎳🤙
I just got my Fate and shot 3 practice games on it and it was awesome
Bought one of these a couple months ago. Made an appointment w my PSO for the day after league to see how i felt about the Reactagloss.
We removed it. 500, 1k, 2k, 3k, and then finished at 4k.
Drilled pin above ring(right hand) and now its so much more controllable. My confidence w it regardless of the condition, it's nice to have a ball that compliments my style. Highly recommend!
The scent is strong.. reminds me of Publix bakery.
I'd almost be curious to see it up against the hyrp and hyroad. On paper it is a clear step stronger but if it is that different from og spectre I wonder if it doesn't have as much delta as I would like
I also have been knocking reacta gloss off everything, this ball looks amazing at 4k
I was gonna drill a Spectre...until the ban hammer. Lol.
But you're right. Surface is everything. I can't stand the Lock when it's dull and I did throw my 2LS one this way at first. Definitely didn't like what I saw and couldn't read it so I shined it up. After that, it's as the infamous guy from TikTok sings, "BERY GOOD BERY NIIIICCCEEE!!! BERY GOOD BERY NIIIICCCEEE!!!"
Hey Luke I think I got it... I think most of the disappointment is because the only that changed on the other replacements were the color and types of cover, nothing else. Wolverine, Phaze 5. With the Revenant, it seems like there's another change that's not the same. Then also, as you said previously, the color. The Spectre had a lot of red in it.
Well but at the same time, the P4 and P5 act nothing alike, they're miles apart.
@Luke Rosdahl when I get my Revenant, I'm going to start with 4000 then CTD polish, and then try 1500 and polish. I appreciate how you add the different surfaces. I bought my ball spinner based on the videos you did showing the difference between a fresh 2000 pad and a used one. You and Ron Hickland have some of best ball educational videos. I used to be scared to change the surface because I thought I would mess up the bowling ball... your comment about how box surface is just a recommendation is the line of the year for people who want to improve their game. Thank you!
I got my Fate last week, and I love it. Never got the chance to get a spectre.
Luke.....it needs to be said that the surface is not the same under the polish as the Spectre. My understanding is that Storm goes all the way to 4000 before using Reacta-Gloss whereas 1500 polish was 1000 plus Step 2. So my thought it if we take the Revenant down to 1000 first and then add Step 2 or Reacta Gloss then we will see a more direct comparison to the Spectre. But by doing so; you also close that gap to the Fate.
Yeah, I explained that in detail in both this video and the Absolute video, so it's out there!
That's also exactly what I did on the resurface for both balls, I followed the original 1500 grit polish process.
It sounds like I should grab a Fate… not mad at all. I have an Incite which I LOVE. Want a Dark Code, but don’t need it. Thought about a Night Road, but I’ve liked the look of the Fate more than every Belmo signature (except maybe your sweetheart, the Pro Motion). I was loving the numbers on the Revenant, but if it’s that similar to the Hyroad Pearl, I’ll hold off. I don’t have a huge need for a big arsenal, as I’m not doing tournaments.
@Luke, I'd love to see a comparison between the Revenant and the Phase 5. I'm currently using a Storm Optimus and both of the balls mentioned are what Storm suggest for replacements (need to drop to 14# ball). Would love to hear your thoughts on the two. Thanks and keep up the great reviews.
I thiiiiiink I made one, I think I have a Fate, Revenant, and P5 video . . but if you're replacing the Optimus with a 14 pound ball, all the numbers change quite a bit, so you're going to need to go a different direction to replace it more directly. Now at the same time, it's tough matching up numbers because whatever you get now is going to be a lot stronger out of the box than the Optimus is NOW, I'd imagine it's tamed down a fair amount since you got it. I'd actually recommend the Zen to replace it if we're comparing new 15 Optimus to new 14 Zen, however I might recommend 14 Phaze 5 if you're trying to replace the Optimus NOW reaction. It's always tricky without being able to see the ball reaction now, Angel had an Optimus a while back but it's been gone for a bit now.
I think the Zen more closely matches the overall reaction of the Optimus, and in 14 pounds it retains similar core numbers to the 15 a lot more closely than anything else, so that's what I would recommend. It's naturally going to be a bit stronger, but once you get some games on it, it'll tame down a little and I think will be the best replacement overall.
@@LukeRosdahl Thanks Luke, I appreciate the feed back. I'll definitely take a look at the Zen as this seems to be another favorite of bowlers as well. I'll check to see if you have video you mention. Thanks so much for providing me some guidance.
Shot my 5th 300 and my 1st 800 with this ball
Quick question! I Just bought the Revenant and I have the pin high over the middle finger, ( I too am a lefty). I got a monster deal on a I Q TOUR Edition. How would drill it and or change surface? I was told both ball are similar. Or are they different??? Thanks
Hey! They really aren't that similar, the revenant is a lot longer and sharper while the iq is pretty early, rolly, and smooth. I'd reset the surface of course but the iq likes living around 3000 on the surface, and because the differential is so low, I wouldn't drill it too weak or it won't flare enough
@@LukeRosdahl Yeah I keep it around 3000!
How do i treat the surface like you did? Mine is having the same problem if the lane is a little too fresh. By game 2 I can't get the oil off completely and it just gets a "slick" feeling. Just like you stated all of a sudden it starts sliding more down the lane and the end bite just dies.
Have your pro shop resurface it, take it down to 500 or 1000 on a resurfacing machine and then polish it from there and it should be just fine.
Can you compare to widow 2.0 hybrid/revenant
Nah, I'm a Storm staffer, so can only use Storm, Global, and Roto!
What oil pattern is it for?
Medium volume medium length, regular house shots, etc
@Luke, which ball would Angel use in a 2nd shift long league pattern, playing agains a bunch of guys who really chew up the lane with strong equipment, high rev rate? I need something to ball down after my old Halo Pearl, it's cover is too strong in this situation. So I was considering, Fate, Revenant, Phaze V, or Zen.
Eh, the cover on the Halo Pearl is actually weaker than the Fate, Revenant, and Zen covers. It's that it's asymmetric is the thing, you'd probably be better off going with something like a Wolverine Dark Moss.
So nice he uploaded twice
So nice he uploaded thrice
Yeah . . mistakes were made . . repeatedly lol
My dad’s been a storm guy for about… his whole life and you have been my way to learn about the storm stuff. Is there anyone like you for Brunswick or motiv?
Luis Napoles used to be Motiv, but not really. Packy with the House does some good stuff, but he gets more into practical application than tech. He's at least the biggest name doing B7 reviews. I'm not sure I know anyone who even does Motiv reviews any more.
Alright thanks, my dad is a national staffer on CTD and he could get a motiv ball sponsorship sometime and I was trying to figure out some of the motiv stuff without having to stare at a stat sheet and imagine
Thanks! I'm going to wait on this ball but pick up the Fate today. On the left side, what are you keeping the cover at?
I'm so looking forward to this release as the spectre was something special. But! The fate has quickly become my new favorite belmo ball. It is disgustingly good once you break it in and find the surface that works for you, I also have heard there is a little overlap between the two. So, it's not a bad thing to wait. 👌
I haven't done anything to it actually. It was really weak out of the box but I just kept throwing it until it broke in and now it's amazing. I haven't touched the surface at all
@Luke Rosdahl Wait... the gloss is actually good on this ball?
@@jaywhey8822 No lol. I had to throw it for 10 games before it would really hook, once I finally threw it enough to break the gloss, NOW it's good.
@@LukeRosdahl Bought it, thought it was weak and slimy after game one, hit it with Reactascuff and wow. I threw some very high games for me afterwards in practice. Thanks for putting out great content that I can trust, Luke.
Revenant vs Night Road??
Yep I'm going to get to that at some point, it's interesting because the core in the Revenant is stronger, but the cover on the Night is stronger, so they have a lot of overlap, but at the same time, they have fairly defined uses too. It's a complicated comparison
Is it similar to the marvel pearl? The revenant has a higher RG. Main reason I ask is because that was my favorite pearl when I was throwing 15 lb. I had to drop to 14 lb due to back problems. Would the weight make a difference too?
They do roll somewhat similar but yeah, Revenant is definitely longer and sharper. Also the weight usually makes a big difference in Storm balls because a lot of the RG values go up quite a bit from 15 to 14. This ball specifically is virtually the same though, but like the Phaze 5, the 15 pound RG is 2.48, the 14 pound RG is 2.53, that virtually turns it into a Wolverine.
@LukeRosdahl You mentioned in one of your videos that the RG affects the reaction more than differential changes. What gap in differential would make a big difference then?
10 points or more, like .030 to .035 you really won't even notice, .030 to .040 you would, then again from .040 to .050, but differential just really relates to how much a ball flares, and once it starts to get some ring separation over .030, it's hard to notice a ton. But you WILL absolutely notice the difference between 2.48 and 2.53. I wouldn't want to spend the money or burn the ball on showing the difference, but a 14 vs 15 Phaze 5 should be fairly noticeable. Of course that'd also make the company look bad, or make people question, complain, etc., so definitely not doing that lol. But the difference can be seen from like Phaze 5 to Wolverine Dark Moss, virtually the same situation.
@@LukeRosdahl forgot to ask. What about the difference in mass bias strength?
@@chrisrush689 I think it more follows differential, you won't feel a huge difference between like .011 in a UC2 and .016 in an RST X2, but you'll notice .011 vs .021
Need some advice, when I need a bit more oomph I switch over to my match up hybrid, but it has just a bit too much kick. It's at 1500/polish oob, I'm curious if taking it to 2k to knock the polish off would tame it too much or should I take it to 3k?
I'd take it to 3000 first, 2000 might make it too early, 3000 should break the shine and slow it down without making it too much stronger or earlier.
@@LukeRosdahl I rev just a bit higher then you but very similar motion, so you are my go to for advice , thanks as always
How will this fit with my Phaze 2 and OG Wolverine?
It's gonna be fairly close to the Wolverine, definitely under the P2, maybe between the P2 and Wolverine. I think it's sharper than the Wolverine.
@@LukeRosdahl How about the Absolute? Looking for something a little stronger than the P2
@@LukeRosdahl P2 and Wolverine are 14# btw, looking to go up to 15
@@docjoe8987 Absolute isn't stronger than the P2, you'd probably want to look at something like the Reality Check, shapes like the P2, about the same amount of hook, but stronger on the backend
@@LukeRosdahl appreciate ya 👍🏻
I'm just confused where these balls fit into the lineup. Storm has too many balls. Is this a weaker fate? Or is it closer to the phase5?
Did you watch the video? I spent about 10 hours making this video, and thought I covered things pretty thoroughly. I really don't think they have that many comparatively. You could say it's a weaker fate, which makes it closer to the Phaze 5. I also have a comparison video showing this against the Fate and explaining where it fits in relation to the Fate, Phaze 5, Hyroads, etc.
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