I really appreciate your approach to ebikes. You don't trash on people who enjoy them, you point out when you enjoy one yourself... but you admit openly that your passion in SERVICING bikes is elsewhere. I really respect that. Being open and honest about what YOUR passions are without trashing on folks who need or want these.
This is also an ad for minivans. Criminally underrated as a utility vehicle. Owners of those Yukons in the parking lot would struggle to fit that bike.
Completely agree. I have had minivans since Lee Iacocca invented them. Super functional with the dual sliding doors and large rear gate...tons of power...enough to tow a trailer.
@makecriminals yes, but that all aligned perfectly with golf! An electric golf bike has a market and I’m not much of a golfer. As stated the minivan is one of those vehicles that needs to remain an option as the automotive industry evolves into whatever it can be.
100% True. "S"UVs (I put the S in quotation marks because they are anything but sporty) carry fewer people, less stuff, they're up too damn high to get/load in and out of, and they're butt ugly. Minivans also give the driver better sight lines so they're safer for everyone both in and outside of it. They're way more better.
Pretty cool! I actually just bought my first eBike. I haven't been able to ride since I tore the cartilage in my knee from basketball a couple of years ago (everything starts going south at 45!). I got an Aventon Soltera.2. It is a lightish low-powered eBike that really does just feel like riding a normal bike with just enough help to get up hills without killing my knee. It's been great to get out riding again!
Gotta tell you, I REALLY want to put knobbies on one of those and put rod and rifle racks on the oversized kickstand! How many steelhead can you put on that rear rack?
I threw away my last bicycle over 20 years ago, swore never to get another one. but recently got the taste of riding an e-bike, it took me one week to order my own speed pedelec (class 3) which supports up to 45 kph with pedal assist and requires drivers license. Haven't taken my car to work ever since (three months now) and I get 27 cents untaxed bicycle compensation for biking into work. and as a bonus, I get to ride through the forest instead of traffic, making my commute shorter as well :). I would never even have considered that with a standard bicycle. I see them as a revolution for urban traffic, if and when used sensible.
@@james-p I used to commute 20 miles, so 40 miles per day and my compensation was less than what I get now. these days I live much closer to my job, so now it's only 6 miles (12 in total per day). And the electricity to charge the battery comes from my solar panels, which were also subsidised :). I'm loving every bit of it :)
Ooh! Disc brakes! 😉 Looks great. Chinese manufacturers can manufacture great stuff if they’re asked to make something decent. Years ago I used to work for a medium scale computer manufacturer that would make white box PCs. You could get different grades of power supply. If you bought the A grade power supply, you got something really good. If you got a D grade PSU, you got something that worked for the most part.
That looks pretty solid! My neighbor bought an ebike from Costco. I sat on it. It felt like it was about to break. Love it when golfers talk about exercise! Cheers
Two good points. 1) Many ebikes are just cheap and don't last. 2) Most of us who ride ebikes on the golf course appreciate the "rotational movement" rather than thinking of them as a "workout". I've always walked the course, but as the years add up, that has become more difficult...which is what motivated me to develop Golf Ebikes.
I’ve been to the driving range a couple times this year with my second hand 30 year old Dunlop miss matched clubs 😂 I’m absolutely terrible but golf is such a nice change of pace from cycling, I think they go great together, super cool video thanks Andy
I just got an ebike a month or so ago. So much fun, and sparks interest in bikes again. My 21 year old Trek has gotten more use in the last month than it has in 5 years, all because this ebike is such a blast and has got me exercising again. Life changing. Plus, it caused me to find the bike farmer, so theres that too. I would so totally golf if I could take my ebike. Id need lots of balls cuz id lose them all. Probably lots of clubs too.
Love it. Looks like a nice relaxed golf club as well. Don't think the public courses I play would allow the bike but I would definitely do it if they did
I'm not a golfer but I am a hard core ebike enthusiast, first thing I noticed is that the throttle was on the left side, which is the first time I've seen it there because they are always on the right side, but then when you think about it, it makes perfect sense for the throttle to be on the left side because you have your shifter in tbe right so too many things going on the right side where as the left side is empty! Now this alone tells me someone really paid attention and did their homework because you have a sea of ebike manufacturers and every single one that I have seen has it on the right side. I'm going to transfer my throttle to the left also, thank you.
Although I’m not a golfer, and I’m not ready to put an e-bike in my stable, this looks like a well thought-out and well made product that does it’s job well. Not being a golfer, I’m just talking out of my hat, but this is surely easier to store, load, unload, and maintain than a golf cart and trailer. Good video as always, happy duffing!😁❤
We really enjoy our e-cargo bikes. Haul kids, groceries, whatever else can fit. Hadn’t thought of it for the golf course but then again I don’t golf. Seems like some clever adjustments to what otherwise looks like a lot of e-bikes I see around town. For all the haters out there, I am extremely courteous on the trails.
@BikeFarmer - Must have been the only time ever that 11mm wrench was used. Those wrenches never get lost because they never get used. The only time I recall using an 11mm was bleeding a caliper on a car. And that was and odd ball bleeder the rest were 10mm.
@@ronnythompson9115 that 11mm wrench should have been an imperial 7/16th inch. I'd bet all the nuts/threads on that contraption were imperial not metric. Why is the USA the only country in the world that still uses old British imperial units? Even we brits ditched them decades ago for metric.
@@JohnPilling25 Pretty sure the bleeder was a stripped 12mm. Was the only one on the car. I can't recall the last time I needed a SAE wrench to work on something that wasn't an a very old appliance. Agree SAE is dead.
This is a great future purchase! I still enjoy walking, but not carrying. I can choose to pedal or go full power and ride the whole way. The course I often play is a billy goat track..very hilly!
Bike golf adventure is the dream. Might have to look into something like this... might actually get me out golfing more than twice a year... (Also depends on if the courses in my area will allow it)
I've got an older hybrid bike that I ride now that I'd like to upgrade out of in the next year or two. I think I'm going to convert it to mid drive e-bike at some point after I get its replacement. I'd love to cycle commute but with an 11 mile commute each way, an e-bike with some better speed than my Chevrolegs can produce would be nice.
Before I got an e-bike, I use to do 50% of all my commuting by bike. After the e-bike (3 years ago), 90%. It was a revolution in my life. I still have a regular road bike for the weekends.
@@joaopedrodefreitaslima2936 e-bikes, at least in urban areas, replace a lot more car mikes than they do bike miles. I still ride my 66 Rollfast Royal to work a lot, but the e-bike sure is nice for when I am not wrenching or just don't want to get too hot before work or get out of the cold quickly. On rides over 30 miles, I ride my touring bike or another of my antiques.
I adore my e-bike. I rode regular bikes and always wanted to go faster, farther, but i don't have stamina for that. In bike tours I'd be towards the end. My e-bike let's me ride and i ride more often and go farther and see more than i ever have. ❤
I am new to foldies, and I put my similar handlebars more forward with a "Bike Handlebar Extension Adjustable Double Stem Folding Bike Stem Riser 25.4mm" found on eBay. That's the literal description of the item. It's working well, especially when I'm out of the saddle and climbing.
@@bkefrmr its kind of like your liberal comments, its my opinion and one I am allowed to have. Its ok to disagree. I still like the channel even if I dont like golf.
I’ve been keeping my late dad’s Trek 7100 in reasonable tune for several years. Sentimental reasons. But that darn M6 bolt that controls the h-bar adjustment will not hold it tight. New subscriber.
During Covid the golf course next door to us in Arizona opened up its paths to bikes. We found riding the course quite pleasant. Then it occurred to me: How about we combine the two sports! So, your welcome!
Add a pannier for cooler and weather swag. Plus the thing could have an alt career as e-cargo bike you can’t do a cart. I am not a golfer, but this another story for car alternative and two wheel life.
Looks great, though in a world were they used to hassle you for the contours of the wheels on you pull cart, I am surprised they let those things on the course. Though having seen the garbage that soft spikes started out as, and the massive claws they have evolved to, I guess anything goes.
In think they have their place, like yours, or getting people back outside and being active, that haven’t been for some time. But, I have also seen people that have issues, like a dead battery, or motor going out. Then they have a 40-50+ pound bike they have to try and pedal home, if there’s not an option to be picked up. Also, it’s just plain frustrating when I bust my A$$ to get up a hill and another person just flies by on their e-bike like it’s nothing. Basically, just my own prejudice, I know.
@@bkefrmr like I said. Just my own prejudice. But, when I’m doing it on my own, and they’re using a motor, it just gets to me. Nothing actually wrong with it. I even had a gal on a group ride pass me on a hill and say, “I know I’m cheating.” I did get a chuckle out of that one. She was a larger person, who, admittedly, would probably not be riding with/o the e-bike. And, that’s OK. I’ll get over it someday😊
Recreational duffer it sort of makes sense for getting around without a full cart albeit battery or gas. It's a unique niche for those that can afford and want one.
I love how this is marketed as a "golf bike". This is probably the most common e-bike where I live (yes, the same beefed up wheels, frame and such), and they're an menace. Since they're so cheap, anyone who just needs something to go about gets them, delivery people as well, so there's millions of them around. They're really quick, 40mph-ish, so it's basically a scooter, but you don't need a license for it.
"40mph-ish"? Not many e-bikes like the one in the vid can do that. For most the bikes that look like that even approaching 40mph will fry the electronics. Most e-bikes ship with a set limit of below 30mph & will only do that max in ideal conditions. Exceeding 30mph and maintaining reliability takes some beefed up electronics, know how of the electronics and riding skills.
@@bkefrmr I'm an ebike enthusiast. I built up my own from an old mini velo frame and a Swytch conversion kit. I use it for my daily commute and running errands on the weekends. It doesn't have the drawbacks of folding frames but still fits into my office and cars
@@JohnPowell6 interesting! I’ve been trying to get Bafang to send me stuff to do a conversion. No response yet! If you know of better companies, let me know and I’ll try to get something done!
@@bkefrmr I think Swytch is the most bike-amateur friendly kit out there. However I have three problems with them 1. They are UK based and that means a US Customs charge for shipping. 2. They don’t keep stock on hand - you sign up for a unit and then have to wait for enough orders to come in for a batch, then wait for your unit to be manufactured and delivered 3-10 months! 3. I didn’t know much about wheel sizes when I ordered my kit for a 20” folding bike. They sent the motor laced into a 451 rim, when I needed a 406. They should have asked me to specify that at ordering. Rather than try to ship it back to England I just had my local bike shop lace the motor into the 406 front wheel of my bike at the time. Probably more expensive than sending the wheel back, but way faster and I had already waited 8 months…
@@bkefrmrWould be really interesting to see a video on an e-bike conversion. I would like to consider myself to be very knowledgeable in the subject of batteries, so if you would like help in picking out good batteries that can last 10+ years I'd gladly do so.
I'm already thinking egolf trike with overhead rain shade and dash spill area like a cart. Not sure if they could make it stable enough, that might be a challenge, as trikes are kindy tippy and weird riding.
Looks like me trying to fish, haven't gone motorized yet but looking at conversion kits. Hesitant about battery and charging safety with ebay stores though.
This is not a crossover I ever expected. I'm the opposite of you (kinda) work at a golf course ✂️ and ride bikes in my free time! Happy riding while golfing! Could be a whole new version of Happy Gilmore could you imagine!
Hi Andy, simple question: I'm 5'9", a 26" size is the right size for me? I am just a commuter... just give me an idea, I would really appreciate any answer. Take care and keep up the good work my friend
You don't need a pickup truck to load these, they're foldable so will fit in the trunks of hatchbacks no problem. As for the weight, it certainly helps if your pickup truck isn't lifted so the load height isn't awful, I would say they are heavy but not too hard to lift unless you're old, have back problems or if you're a small woman. I would recommend the Lectric XP Lite 2.0 if you want something in a similar style but lighter.
i always see people struggle to lift heavy things out of boxes. just tip it over and open the box from the bottom and then tip it upright and lift the box up while the heavy contents stay on the floor lol
Interesting factoid about reputable Chinese manufacturers (keyword: reputable): if you pay them for quality control, they will deliver - to any standard that you’re willing to pay for. The fact that this bike arrived properly set up means it’s in the contract and that the contract was honored. Of course, a small bike company can get ripped off and it’s hard to sue for breach of contract in China, but it looks like a good choice was made.
I'm glad to see you embrace e-bikes. I'd have preferred if, with your skillset, you installed a mid-drive on a bike you already had & loved.🤷♂ IMO hubs are fine IF you ride flat terrain (like a golf course) or want to ride like you're on a moped but mid-drives with their use of gearing are superior for riding like you're riding a bicycle. A 750 watt hub is more than adequate for your use case but big hills will fry the controller, motor or both. Using the gears a 750 watt mid-drive can handle any terrain or hill. Ride on & enjoy:)
@@michaelsprinzeles4022 my wife has a 250W rear hub drive e-bike and in France we use for all our shopping so it's hauling a lot of extra weight on the rear rack and in the rear panniers plus front basket - we are in the Pyrenees and the motor even at 60% still gets her, the bike and shopping up the hills - max gradients around 8 to 10%. She did 60km on it one day, 30km of which included the groceries as we went to a Lidl that day to stock up on Prosecco at only €1.49 a bottle. She had 4 bottles in each pannier and a box of 6 bottles bungeed to the rear rack. No issues at all and still plenty of charge in the battery despite doing an 8km climb on the way home. Here in Florida I built her a mid drive e-bike using a Specialized Crosstrail frame and a 1500W CYC stealth mid drive motor - she uses it for grocery shopping - panniers, rear rack and front basket. You can really tell when the motor kicks in even at 20% power.
@JohnPilling25 I didn't say hubs can't be ridden up hills. With only 250 watts your wife is putting in much of the power. I live on a steep hill, only 2 city blocks, that eats anything under 750 watts (without human input). The Stealth is a monster & can handle inclines as if declining;)
Cool ride. I guess you would need a OK from the course to take your bike out there? Also, it makes more sense to ride all the way to the course and leve the car home. Wouldnt it? Dpends of course on your distance to the course, but a 2 battery setup would be sweet. if needed? A "normal" modern (what ever that is) e.bike last around 40-90 km. on a single charge. These bikes would be cool idea as rentals on the course as well. I would rent that instead of a gold cart. If not, hust for the wind in the hair :D Cool, and easy going review. I guess its a cool grocery getter or kindergarten pickupper too :D
There should be a distinction made when it comes to ebikes. Some will be equipped with a throttle to keep you going without pedaling, while others are pedal-assist, which won't engage the motor unless you are turning the crank and creating enough torque vs speed to engage the sensor. I own both types.
There is: Class 1 (no throttle, pedal assist up to 20mph); Class 2 (throttle and pedal assist, up to 20mph); and Class 3 (no throttle, pedal assist up to 28mph). They also have power limits on the motors, I think 500 or 750 watts. In the USA, at least.
different strokes for different folks, but part of the appeal of golf in australia is the walking. here everyone walks pushing their bag on a little cart with wheels. people with mobility problems use an electric golf cart. I guess if everyone on the course was on a motorised cart or bike you might be able to get more people through in a day. that bike looks like the bikes food delivery riders use here in australia. they must be pretty good quality based on all the hours and miles they do everyday.
We have sold quite a few of our Universal-Fit Golf Bag Carriers to customers in Australia, so the demand is there. I hope to start selling our GolfEbikes there soon.
@@stevedivnick like I said the bike looks the same as the food delivery bikes here, if you're going to warehouse bikes here you could consider a different website/social media account marketing them to food delivery riders in addition to your main golf one. businesses also rent them for $70/week. I guess it takes 20 weeks or so of rental to cover costs. might be a terrible business idea, i don't know. i don't know how much insurance would cost but golf courses might be interested in buying to rent, as well. without the cost of insurance they would pay off the cost of the bike in a few weeks. then they just need to pay a mobile bike mechanic once a month or so to keep them going.
I used an old ebike i got for free from my aunt for some months, and I have to admit, it was very nice. But when it broke down and was too old to repair (plus original producer isn't active anymore for years), i thought: "I'm still young, fit and I do sports, so why should I buy an e-bike when I can save money, get a light mtb and get more extra training plus can drive it on trails and in the woods and have less problems?" So I've got me a modern Trek hardtail. But I totally get it. I live in a hilly small swiss city and e-bikes make people move way more than before, especially older folks and parents with small children. When I drive up the one hill to work in the morning, every 3rd day a random granny on an e-bike will overtake me, but I don't care. Good for them to be mobile.
I enjoy mountain biking but I have knee issues and get fatigued after intense physical activity. So I got an Orbea Rise and this bike has been amazing. It allows me to keep up with my buddies on their non-electric bikes and it’s just so much fun to ride. If e-bikes enable more people to enjoy cycling, then I think naysayers should stop bitching about them. The only concerns I have about e-bikes are the cost, the repairability of the motor and batteries, and longevity. My bike needs the rear hub rebuilt after only 5 months of owning and riding it.
Can’t post pictures here. The e bike thing may challenge avid cyclists. I’ve been cycling seriously since 1980. I broke my back in 2017 and cycling is not easy for me any more. I took my Gunnar Crosshairs and added a CYC Photon torque sensing mid drive motor. Most people can’t tell it’s an e bike. Still have three regular bikes (all steel; Indy Fab Crown Jewel, Gunnar Hyper X and a Miyata Road Gentleman). Probably going to convert the Miyata as well. I think it could make a cool video for you to do something similar. You do a conversion and you can use whatever components you choose!
Folding for those who need to do that to transport it, and heavy duty so it can take the abuse. Also folding ebikes have the lowest step-thru which is important for golf...getting off-and-on between every shot.
@@stevedivnick No I understand why make a bike foldable.. But, the weight. Seems like maybe it could be made lighter but still strong? Just thinking about senior riders out there trying to lift a 90lb bike into the back of a van.
The bike motor noice might be an issue. Also I read the website and it mentions age 18. But how is that controlled in reality. Some golfers may not like the idea of having a Ebike on the course. Does this have a throttle or is the Ebike pedal assist only? Good luck getting accepted in on most courses. I do not golf, but some golfers are not always happy about something different. They are big on rules and regulations. And that is not necessarily bad.
Geez Andy, you know how to make a really good infomercial. I watched the whole video and I don't even golf.
Same 😂
Fantastic information. Thanks!
I really appreciate your approach to ebikes.
You don't trash on people who enjoy them, you point out when you enjoy one yourself... but you admit openly that your passion in SERVICING bikes is elsewhere.
I really respect that. Being open and honest about what YOUR passions are without trashing on folks who need or want these.
This is also an ad for minivans. Criminally underrated as a utility vehicle. Owners of those Yukons in the parking lot would struggle to fit that bike.
Completely agree. I have had minivans since Lee Iacocca invented them. Super functional with the dual sliding doors and large rear gate...tons of power...enough to tow a trailer.
Using a gas powered vehicle to move the ebike is wayyyyy dumber that just owning rhe ebike to begin with and I didn't even think that was possible.
@makecriminals yes, but that all aligned perfectly with golf! An electric golf bike has a market and I’m not much of a golfer. As stated the minivan is one of those vehicles that needs to remain an option as the automotive industry evolves into whatever it can be.
100% True. "S"UVs (I put the S in quotation marks because they are anything but sporty) carry fewer people, less stuff, they're up too damn high to get/load in and out of, and they're butt ugly. Minivans also give the driver better sight lines so they're safer for everyone both in and outside of it. They're way more better.
Pretty cool! I actually just bought my first eBike. I haven't been able to ride since I tore the cartilage in my knee from basketball a couple of years ago (everything starts going south at 45!). I got an Aventon Soltera.2. It is a lightish low-powered eBike that really does just feel like riding a normal bike with just enough help to get up hills without killing my knee. It's been great to get out riding again!
Gotta tell you, I REALLY want to put knobbies on one of those and put rod and rifle racks on the oversized kickstand! How many steelhead can you put on that rear rack?
PLEASE make a video if you do that
@@sklegg will do!
Thanks!
Thanks hey!
I threw away my last bicycle over 20 years ago, swore never to get another one. but recently got the taste of riding an e-bike, it took me one week to order my own speed pedelec (class 3) which supports up to 45 kph with pedal assist and requires drivers license. Haven't taken my car to work ever since (three months now) and I get 27 cents untaxed bicycle compensation for biking into work. and as a bonus, I get to ride through the forest instead of traffic, making my commute shorter as well :). I would never even have considered that with a standard bicycle. I see them as a revolution for urban traffic, if and when used sensible.
I wish we Yanks had a credit for biking to work! Sounds like a much better commute.
@@james-p I used to commute 20 miles, so 40 miles per day and my compensation was less than what I get now. these days I live much closer to my job, so now it's only 6 miles (12 in total per day). And the electricity to charge the battery comes from my solar panels, which were also subsidised :). I'm loving every bit of it :)
Swing looks real solid!
I used to hate e-bikes. But the more I look at them as a car alternative the more i like them!
@@ryank5115 truth, they more replace car miles than bike miles.
Have an e-bike and a car, but drives the car only when necessary, is the best scenario. No bike can entirely replace a car.
@@joaopedrodefreitaslima2936 but bikes can go places where no car ever could
Ooh! Disc brakes! 😉 Looks great.
Chinese manufacturers can manufacture great stuff if they’re asked to make something decent. Years ago I used to work for a medium scale computer manufacturer that would make white box PCs. You could get different grades of power supply. If you bought the A grade power supply, you got something really good. If you got a D grade PSU, you got something that worked for the most part.
That looks pretty solid! My neighbor bought an ebike from Costco. I sat on it. It felt like it was about to break. Love it when golfers talk about exercise! Cheers
Two good points. 1) Many ebikes are just cheap and don't last. 2) Most of us who ride ebikes on the golf course appreciate the "rotational movement" rather than thinking of them as a "workout". I've always walked the course, but as the years add up, that has become more difficult...which is what motivated me to develop Golf Ebikes.
lower pressure is better! when is the tubeless conversion video happening?
Thanks hey!
That is the coolest sticking thing I have ever seen.
Andy this was great! Absolutely love the integration of biking and golfing! I want more!
I’ve been to the driving range a couple times this year with my second hand 30 year old Dunlop miss matched clubs 😂 I’m absolutely terrible but golf is such a nice change of pace from cycling, I think they go great together, super cool video thanks Andy
It's not failure we like to see, it's the struggle. It underscores your humanity, and it's charming.
I just got an ebike a month or so ago. So much fun, and sparks interest in bikes again. My 21 year old Trek has gotten more use in the last month than it has in 5 years, all because this ebike is such a blast and has got me exercising again. Life changing. Plus, it caused me to find the bike farmer, so theres that too. I would so totally golf if I could take my ebike. Id need lots of balls cuz id lose them all. Probably lots of clubs too.
Love it. Looks like a nice relaxed golf club as well. Don't think the public courses I play would allow the bike but I would definitely do it if they did
Looks like there's still plenty of room on the rack for a small cooler to keep those summer beverages cool. COOL!
I'm not a golfer but I am a hard core ebike enthusiast, first thing I noticed is that the throttle was on the left side, which is the first time I've seen it there because they are always on the right side, but then when you think about it, it makes perfect sense for the throttle to be on the left side because you have your shifter in tbe right so too many things going on the right side where as the left side is empty! Now this alone tells me someone really paid attention and did their homework because you have a sea of ebike manufacturers and every single one that I have seen has it on the right side.
I'm going to transfer my throttle to the left also, thank you.
Velotric are on the left.
Never heard of these before, but it's a good idea
Although I’m not a golfer, and I’m not ready to put an e-bike in my stable, this looks like a well thought-out and well made product that does it’s job well. Not being a golfer, I’m just talking out of my hat, but this is surely easier to store, load, unload, and maintain than a golf cart and trailer. Good video as always, happy duffing!😁❤
the way it uses the golf bag as a kickstand is genius
We've never seen you happier! Rock on..
We really enjoy our e-cargo bikes. Haul kids, groceries, whatever else can fit. Hadn’t thought of it for the golf course but then again I don’t golf. Seems like some clever adjustments to what otherwise looks like a lot of e-bikes I see around town. For all the haters out there, I am extremely courteous on the trails.
@BikeFarmer - Must have been the only time ever that 11mm wrench was used. Those wrenches never get lost because they never get used. The only time I recall using an 11mm was bleeding a caliper on a car. And that was and odd ball bleeder the rest were 10mm.
@@ronnythompson9115 that 11mm wrench should have been an imperial 7/16th inch. I'd bet all the nuts/threads on that contraption were imperial not metric. Why is the USA the only country in the world that still uses old British imperial units? Even we brits ditched them decades ago for metric.
@@JohnPilling25 Pretty sure the bleeder was a stripped 12mm. Was the only one on the car. I can't recall the last time I needed a SAE wrench to work on something that wasn't an a very old appliance. Agree SAE is dead.
This is a great future purchase! I still enjoy walking, but not carrying. I can choose to pedal or go full power and ride the whole way. The course I often play is a billy goat track..very hilly!
This bike would handle the hills just fine.
Bike golf adventure is the dream. Might have to look into something like this... might actually get me out golfing more than twice a year... (Also depends on if the courses in my area will allow it)
I've got an older hybrid bike that I ride now that I'd like to upgrade out of in the next year or two. I think I'm going to convert it to mid drive e-bike at some point after I get its replacement. I'd love to cycle commute but with an 11 mile commute each way, an e-bike with some better speed than my Chevrolegs can produce would be nice.
Nice! Looks like it can be used for more than golf.
I own one of the original analog golf bikes. Green, step through frame, room for 20x3 tires. Super fun!
Exciting and New, come aboard, we're expecting you, the love e-bike.......eh lost it!😂
Before I got an e-bike, I use to do 50% of all my commuting by bike. After the e-bike (3 years ago), 90%. It was a revolution in my life. I still have a regular road bike for the weekends.
If I lived in an urban area, I’d be 90% ebike for sure.
@@joaopedrodefreitaslima2936 e-bikes, at least in urban areas, replace a lot more car mikes than they do bike miles. I still ride my 66 Rollfast Royal to work a lot, but the e-bike sure is nice for when I am not wrenching or just don't want to get too hot before work or get out of the cold quickly. On rides over 30 miles, I ride my touring bike or another of my antiques.
I adore my e-bike. I rode regular bikes and always wanted to go faster, farther, but i don't have stamina for that. In bike tours I'd be towards the end. My e-bike let's me ride and i ride more often and go farther and see more than i ever have. ❤
I am new to foldies, and I put my similar handlebars more forward with a "Bike Handlebar Extension Adjustable Double Stem Folding Bike Stem Riser 25.4mm" found on eBay. That's the literal description of the item. It's working well, especially when I'm out of the saddle and climbing.
You look so happy, riding around!
Golf; as Mark Twain said,"Golf, a good walk ruined"
“Golf. A complete waste of time and udder non-sense”
-most likely everyone, everywhere, ever.
@@SofiaisSunshine it’s an incredible game and anyone who doesn’t play is missing out.
@@bkefrmr its kind of like your liberal comments, its my opinion and one I am allowed to have. Its ok to disagree. I still like the channel even if I dont like golf.
@@SofiaisSunshine lol. So sensitive
@@bkefrmr i know right. Its just golf. Lolz
I’ve been keeping my late dad’s Trek 7100 in reasonable tune for several years. Sentimental reasons. But that darn M6 bolt that controls the h-bar adjustment will not hold it tight. New subscriber.
These things are like hashing. Half a mind to try is all you need! I love my ebike.
During Covid the golf course next door to us in Arizona opened up its paths to bikes. We found riding the course quite pleasant. Then it occurred to me: How about we combine the two sports! So, your welcome!
That's our theme... "Combining two of our favorite things: Biking and Golf!"
Spouse has a beefy ebike. Wonder if there is an attachment for the built on rack that would carry a guitar. . . .
Add a pannier for cooler and weather swag. Plus the thing could have an alt career as e-cargo bike you can’t do a cart. I am not a golfer, but this another story for car alternative and two wheel life.
That is an awesome design.
Love this!!! It's not a matter of if I get one, just a matter of when.
Looks great, though in a world were they used to hassle you for the contours of the wheels on you pull cart, I am surprised they let those things on the course. Though having seen the garbage that soft spikes started out as, and the massive claws they have evolved to, I guess anything goes.
E-bikes are car replacements but in this case caddy replacements! Lovely
A bike is a car replacement. An ebike is just a motorcycle.
Have you seen the bikes in Japan? Theyre are called "mamachari". And some are pedal assisted bikes.
it looks a bit like my engwe. love it!
Love e-bikes and golf. Terrific.
Not generally a fan of e-bikes. But, this one definitely serves a good purpose😊
What don’t you like about e-bikes?
In think they have their place, like yours, or getting people back outside and being active, that haven’t been for some time.
But, I have also seen people that have issues, like a dead battery, or motor going out. Then they have a 40-50+ pound bike they have to try and pedal home, if there’s not an option to be picked up. Also, it’s just plain frustrating when I bust my A$$ to get up a hill and another person just flies by on their e-bike like it’s nothing.
Basically, just my own prejudice, I know.
@@4epatterson why does it bother you if someone goes up a hill faster than you?
@@bkefrmr like I said. Just my own prejudice. But, when I’m doing it on my own, and they’re using a motor, it just gets to me. Nothing actually wrong with it.
I even had a gal on a group ride pass me on a hill and say, “I know I’m cheating.” I did get a chuckle out of that one. She was a larger person, who, admittedly, would probably not be riding with/o the e-bike. And, that’s OK.
I’ll get over it someday😊
Recreational duffer it sort of makes sense for getting around without a full cart albeit battery or gas. It's a unique niche for those that can afford and want one.
Nice to see a build/modified for purpose unit like this. Did the weight of the bag ever feel like it was a factor in steering or balance?
I love how this is marketed as a "golf bike".
This is probably the most common e-bike where I live (yes, the same beefed up wheels, frame and such), and they're an menace. Since they're so cheap, anyone who just needs something to go about gets them, delivery people as well, so there's millions of them around. They're really quick, 40mph-ish, so it's basically a scooter, but you don't need a license for it.
"40mph-ish"? Not many e-bikes like the one in the vid can do that. For most the bikes that look like that even approaching 40mph will fry the electronics. Most e-bikes ship with a set limit of below 30mph & will only do that max in ideal conditions. Exceeding 30mph and maintaining reliability takes some beefed up electronics, know how of the electronics and riding skills.
Nice swing, man.
Looking forward to wheel stand rants on e-bike servicing!
I think I’m just gonna make a whole video on it. Especially after reading some of these comments. People are absolutely nutty about this topic.
@@bkefrmr I'm an ebike enthusiast. I built up my own from an old mini velo frame and a Swytch conversion kit. I use it for my daily commute and running errands on the weekends. It doesn't have the drawbacks of folding frames but still fits into my office and cars
@@JohnPowell6 interesting! I’ve been trying to get Bafang to send me stuff to do a conversion. No response yet! If you know of better companies, let me know and I’ll try to get something done!
@@bkefrmr I think Swytch is the most bike-amateur friendly kit out there. However I have three problems with them 1. They are UK based and that means a US Customs charge for shipping. 2. They don’t keep stock on hand - you sign up for a unit and then have to wait for enough orders to come in for a batch, then wait for your unit to be manufactured and delivered 3-10 months! 3. I didn’t know much about wheel sizes when I ordered my kit for a 20” folding bike. They sent the motor laced into a 451 rim, when I needed a 406. They should have asked me to specify that at ordering. Rather than try to ship it back to England I just had my local bike shop lace the motor into the 406 front wheel of my bike at the time. Probably more expensive than sending the wheel back, but way faster and I had already waited 8 months…
@@bkefrmrWould be really interesting to see a video on an e-bike conversion.
I would like to consider myself to be very knowledgeable in the subject of batteries, so if you would like help in picking out good batteries that can last 10+ years I'd gladly do so.
Looks fun!
I'm already thinking egolf trike with overhead rain shade and dash spill area like a cart. Not sure if they could make it stable enough, that might be a challenge, as trikes are kindy tippy and weird riding.
Looks like me trying to fish, haven't gone motorized yet but looking at conversion kits. Hesitant about battery and charging safety with ebay stores though.
This is not a crossover I ever expected.
I'm the opposite of you (kinda) work at a golf course ✂️ and ride bikes in my free time!
Happy riding while golfing! Could be a whole new version of Happy Gilmore could you imagine!
New Moonlander is going to be my golf bike. 😂
Hi Andy, simple question: I'm 5'9", a 26" size is the right size for me? I am just a commuter... just give me an idea, I would really appreciate any answer. Take care and keep up the good work my friend
Save the box for the trip to Pebble Beach... So much for the Make Bikes Simple Again . . .
Damn, that looks like hecka fun. Want.
Are those wide toe-box shoes?
11:55 Could we have a video of you tidying up the BikeFarmhouse pls?
I have a beach cruiser and I have been thinking about making it into a Swytch bike. Maybe you can do a video some day converting one.
Does it have the range to go back and forth to your house as well?
It does, but it’s like 11 miles each way so I’ve never done it. Doesn’t seem fun to me.
Seeing the bike mechanic farmer in the wild without his apron is a rare sight on this channel. I had to make sure I wasn't in an alternate universe.
Do you have to down load an app like e scooters?
I would love one of those bikes. Not sure if the golf course where I live would allow it though
Wonder how easy it would load into the bed of a pickup truck ?
Great video
You don't need a pickup truck to load these, they're foldable so will fit in the trunks of hatchbacks no problem.
As for the weight, it certainly helps if your pickup truck isn't lifted so the load height isn't awful, I would say they are heavy but not too hard to lift unless you're old, have back problems or if you're a small woman.
I would recommend the Lectric XP Lite 2.0 if you want something in a similar style but lighter.
@@swecreationsI asked the question because that’s all I own is a pickup so yes I do need a pickup, thank you
Hey Andy, did the hardware include nylok nuts? Or did you used Loctite? Great video once again.
Wow it’s interesting to see you with an ebike, I thought it wasn’t your style 😅
i always see people struggle to lift heavy things out of boxes. just tip it over and open the box from the bottom and then tip it upright and lift the box up while the heavy contents stay on the floor lol
AW MAAAAAN! You wrecked the box! How you gonna put your bike on a plane now!?!?
Interesting factoid about reputable Chinese manufacturers (keyword: reputable): if you pay them for quality control, they will deliver - to any standard that you’re willing to pay for. The fact that this bike arrived properly set up means it’s in the contract and that the contract was honored. Of course, a small bike company can get ripped off and it’s hard to sue for breach of contract in China, but it looks like a good choice was made.
I'm glad to see you embrace e-bikes. I'd have preferred if, with your skillset, you installed a mid-drive on a bike you already had & loved.🤷♂
IMO hubs are fine IF you ride flat terrain (like a golf course) or want to ride like you're on a moped but mid-drives with their use of gearing are superior for riding like you're riding a bicycle. A 750 watt hub is more than adequate for your use case but big hills will fry the controller, motor or both. Using the gears a 750 watt mid-drive can handle any terrain or hill.
Ride on & enjoy:)
@@michaelsprinzeles4022 my wife has a 250W rear hub drive e-bike and in France we use for all our shopping so it's hauling a lot of extra weight on the rear rack and in the rear panniers plus front basket - we are in the Pyrenees and the motor even at 60% still gets her, the bike and shopping up the hills - max gradients around 8 to 10%. She did 60km on it one day, 30km of which included the groceries as we went to a Lidl that day to stock up on Prosecco at only €1.49 a bottle. She had 4 bottles in each pannier and a box of 6 bottles bungeed to the rear rack. No issues at all and still plenty of charge in the battery despite doing an 8km climb on the way home. Here in Florida I built her a mid drive e-bike using a Specialized Crosstrail frame and a 1500W CYC stealth mid drive motor - she uses it for grocery shopping - panniers, rear rack and front basket. You can really tell when the motor kicks in even at 20% power.
@JohnPilling25 I didn't say hubs can't be ridden up hills. With only 250 watts your wife is putting in much of the power. I live on a steep hill, only 2 city blocks, that eats anything under 750 watts (without human input).
The Stealth is a monster & can handle inclines as if declining;)
Cool ride. I guess you would need a OK from the course to take your bike out there? Also, it makes more sense to ride all the way to the course and leve the car home. Wouldnt it? Dpends of course on your distance to the course, but a 2 battery setup would be sweet. if needed? A "normal" modern (what ever that is) e.bike last around 40-90 km. on a single charge. These bikes would be cool idea as rentals on the course as well. I would rent that instead of a gold cart. If not, hust for the wind in the hair :D Cool, and easy going review. I guess its a cool grocery getter or kindergarten pickupper too
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“Lemme kick it up to 4
Holy S#!T!!”😂😂😂😂
There should be a distinction made when it comes to ebikes. Some will be equipped with a throttle to keep you going without pedaling, while others are pedal-assist, which won't engage the motor unless you are turning the crank and creating enough torque vs speed to engage the sensor. I own both types.
There is: Class 1 (no throttle, pedal assist up to 20mph); Class 2 (throttle and pedal assist, up to 20mph); and Class 3 (no throttle, pedal assist up to 28mph). They also have power limits on the motors, I think 500 or 750 watts. In the USA, at least.
Welcome to the club.
different strokes for different folks, but part of the appeal of golf in australia is the walking. here everyone walks pushing their bag on a little cart with wheels. people with mobility problems use an electric golf cart. I guess if everyone on the course was on a motorised cart or bike you might be able to get more people through in a day.
that bike looks like the bikes food delivery riders use here in australia. they must be pretty good quality based on all the hours and miles they do everyday.
We have sold quite a few of our Universal-Fit Golf Bag Carriers to customers in Australia, so the demand is there. I hope to start selling our GolfEbikes there soon.
@@stevedivnick like I said the bike looks the same as the food delivery bikes here, if you're going to warehouse bikes here you could consider a different website/social media account marketing them to food delivery riders in addition to your main golf one. businesses also rent them for $70/week. I guess it takes 20 weeks or so of rental to cover costs. might be a terrible business idea, i don't know.
i don't know how much insurance would cost but golf courses might be interested in buying to rent, as well. without the cost of insurance they would pay off the cost of the bike in a few weeks. then they just need to pay a mobile bike mechanic once a month or so to keep them going.
I used an old ebike i got for free from my aunt for some months, and I have to admit, it was very nice. But when it broke down and was too old to repair (plus original producer isn't active anymore for years), i thought: "I'm still young, fit and I do sports, so why should I buy an e-bike when I can save money, get a light mtb and get more extra training plus can drive it on trails and in the woods and have less problems?" So I've got me a modern Trek hardtail. But I totally get it. I live in a hilly small swiss city and e-bikes make people move way more than before, especially older folks and parents with small children. When I drive up the one hill to work in the morning, every 3rd day a random granny on an e-bike will overtake me, but I don't care. Good for them to be mobile.
a doctor once told me that it's not about the effort being done, it's about the movement, the getting out and about, exercise.
I enjoy mountain biking but I have knee issues and get fatigued after intense physical activity. So I got an Orbea Rise and this bike has been amazing. It allows me to keep up with my buddies on their non-electric bikes and it’s just so much fun to ride. If e-bikes enable more people to enjoy cycling, then I think naysayers should stop bitching about them. The only concerns I have about e-bikes are the cost, the repairability of the motor and batteries, and longevity. My bike needs the rear hub rebuilt after only 5 months of owning and riding it.
A surly moon Lander would be great for that, i hope you keep getting free bikes
Still another way to get more people on bikes from the course (in addition to golf).
Love it ❤❤
That really cool makes want go golfing lol
Very cool.
Awesome!!!
Can’t post pictures here. The e bike thing may challenge avid cyclists. I’ve been cycling seriously since 1980. I broke my back in 2017 and cycling is not easy for me any more. I took my Gunnar Crosshairs and added a CYC Photon torque sensing mid drive motor. Most people can’t tell it’s an e bike. Still have three regular bikes (all steel; Indy Fab Crown Jewel, Gunnar Hyper X and a Miyata Road Gentleman). Probably going to convert the Miyata as well. I think it could make a cool video for you to do something similar. You do a conversion and you can use whatever components you choose!
Awesome!
I want to perform an experiment and take off the chain. I want to master the art of ghost pedaling on a Cadence Sensor.
Thanks for chippin' in
E-bikes are not going away, welcome to the dark side.
Why make a bike foldable e-bike and so heavy? Also, how did you true that front wheel? Mallet?
So you can put it in the boot of your car! 😊
Folding for those who need to do that to transport it, and heavy duty so it can take the abuse. Also folding ebikes have the lowest step-thru which is important for golf...getting off-and-on between every shot.
@@stevedivnick No I understand why make a bike foldable.. But, the weight. Seems like maybe it could be made lighter but still strong? Just thinking about senior riders out there trying to lift a 90lb bike into the back of a van.
wow. those are like $3,500 .. not sure if the bike will have enough battery for 11.5 miles each way and then the golf course?
The bike motor noice might be an issue. Also I read the website and it mentions age 18. But how is that controlled in reality. Some golfers may not like the idea of having a Ebike on the course. Does this have a throttle or is the Ebike pedal assist only?
Good luck getting accepted in on most courses. I do not golf, but some golfers are not always happy about something different. They are big on rules and regulations. And that is not necessarily bad.
Rocker? Rocker?