Collecting Addicts Episode 54: New Cars Are Ugly, Spotlights, Formula 1 Chat & More!
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Congratulations on your brand-new car! It's really ugly! Or is it? Are new cars that much of an insult to your retina, or have the addicts' own outlooks not kept up with the times? Or better yet, maybe beautiful cars are still being made?
And what about spotlights? Are they an automatic car-embellisher?
All of these very important questions (and much more) are definitely answered factually, logically and with no bias whatsoever by our addicts in episode 54 of the Collecting Addicts podcast!
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(00:00) Intro
(00:49) All new cars are ugly
(14:17) Rolls Royce daily driver
(26:51) This week in cars
(43:27) Formula 1
(51:45) Spotlights
(01:00:17) Cheese or service station
(01:05:28) 2 Car garage
(01:12:33) Driving tunes
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About Collecting Addicts Podcast:
Collecting Addicts is one of the leading automotive podcast hosted by Chris Harris along with fellow addicts Edward Lovett, Manish Pandey, Neil Clifford and Chris Cooper.
This eclectic bunch of car addicts gather online weekly to discuss all things automotive, from the minutiae of best gloveboxes to the latest happenings in top-tier motorsport.
They answer burning questions from listeners, debate the best and worst from the car world over the decades, and make time for regular features including ‘Two Car Garage’ and ‘Driving Tunes’.
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52:56 Owner of the 812 here, I put the Hella spotlights there myself from my own idea. The factory wouldn’t allow it
They look Hella fine
"When I was a student I used to do yacht deliveries" he just, casually drops that line... :))
Chris C is a bit of a dude
He said 'sail yachts back to the UK', not yacht sales! 🙂
If you had some yacht experience of any kind in the eighties there was quite a few opportunities to be one of the crew delivering yachts from one location to another. Pay was awful but experiences were pretty good.
Thanks Collecting cars team for these Podcasts, certainly helped get me through a tough old week after losing my fiancee to her battle with cancer last weekend
When you are in your 30’s and come out of a bubble to find everyone else is busy with their own lives something like this is amazing to stick on and feel just like you are down the pub with your mates chatting shit about cars in those lonely moments. Also some amazing life lessons and relatable content mixed in as well when you listen between the car chat.
When I have been out and about doing journeys in the car this week to see friends and family, sticking some old episodes on in the GT86 and just enjoying the moment whilst laughing out loud has been great.
In the words of Neil Fuck it I am going for a drive! (whilst listening of course)
Bless her Soul. Praying for you brother.
Our condolences
Sorry for your loss x
Big love brother strength
Man that's rough, so sorry to hear that! Stay strong
Jumping the gun here, but I cannot, cannot believe I haven't played "Cheese or Service Station" before. That's genius.
Are there any legitimate trick questions… answer being both…:)
It was amazing. 😂 Only a 4 out of 10 from me though.
@@ydrts_915Oh yes. As mentioned in several previous pods, Gloucester
@@ydrts_915Yes! Appropriately enough, given it's been mentioned a few times here (the services, not the cheese) Gloucester
Tunworth, (home of the award winning soft cheese) is 1 mile away from here, so at least I got that one right@@stevecox5012
Manish is the go-to when summarising F1. Always so humble and funny 🤘⭐
Two car garage: You live in the center of a large metropolitan city. You’ve done very well for yourself and are interested in cars but you have one problem: you have only one parking space. Your loft, however, is many, many square feet and can handle many things. You have 350k GBP to purchase two vehicles. One will be your everything, daily runabout. The other will be drained of its fluids and craned into your living area where it will live as an art installation. What do you choose?
Next weeks 2 car garage:You are a f1 team principle who needs one car to discreetly leave the circuit in a speedy fashion to avoid a angry wife who caught you chatting up a employee.
The second car has to be a four seater which is on brand and also able to pick up your kids from your first marriage.
The budget is only 100k as your payments to your current and ex wife are hindering the cash flow.
I’ve recently discovered this podcast. Binged about 15 episodes in the last week. Fantastic job gents 🙏 Thinking of writing my own 2 car garage script to send in.
Best exhaust noise - Zonda F or LFA
Or new Gordon Murray car
Loved the episode! Felt like one of the "early" ones. Spotlights! Been my thing for years. Especially the rally setups like those Stratos and even the Intergrales and the 205s.
Love the "we may be back next week.." at the end. 😂
Cracking episode from start to finish.
Brits love a self-made story, but not enough to let us drive a Roller daily!
I even stayed for the song choices - smashed it!
self made?
I think you guys are in deep do do after the last part…bloody brilliant
This podcast simply makes me happy.
The best hour and a bit I get every Friday morning. Spot lights for me were the MK1 Escort Cibies 4 of them with the huge bracket. I had these on my first car.
I was there in 95/96 too Neil!! 🏁🍻The racket of those awesome Le Mans specced Maca F1’s just absolutely ripping through the air. A privilege to have heard those babies at full chat!
I laughed so hard I had Kenco coming out of my nostrils... another absolutely first class episode!
It Wasn't Me! And a 986 mentioned in the same episode, very nice 🤣
I was anticipating You're So Vain though having finished DTS just now...
Please let Chris Cooper run the show for one week
mayhem
Just imagine 😂
God no
You can find clips of the original David Prowse Darth Vader dialogue quite easily. I just wanted to hear him to say, 'oi, you kids, ger orf moi tractor-beam'.
This is the best podcast……I stay up late to watch or listen to it each week. #Fantastic charity work chaps!!
I enjoy the music section every week, but this week's was particularly good value 😅
the 986 is so, so, so good. I bought one 18 months ago and did 15k miles in it. It effortlessly did 165mph on the A-bahn, we took it up the Mangart Saddle in thunderstorm in Slovenia, did a month posing round the Cote d'Azure based in St Paul de Vence, a week at lake Bled and another in Cortina. And November 23 did the NC 500 (which worked out at 2,000). It was comfortable, fast, fun and if you take the spare wheel out has tons of luggage.
As good as it was, and it was a good one, they can be V. expensive. I'm not too worried about the IMS / RMS as they are only £1,500 but you absolutely have to check your cam deviations as if they are over 6 deg you are on your way to a £3,500 repair or catastrophic failure (do we also need to mention bore-scoring?) , a suspension refresh can easily top £4k, much of the body is double skinned so impossible to get dents out and often needs full body shop work, they eat window regulators for breakfast, the ignition barrels go and lead to a multitude of electrical gremlins, the hoods degrade quickly when old and they mist up like a Turkish Sauna if left outside.
Running my 986 cost me exactly the same as my 996 in repairs and depreciation (39ppm), however I will be controversial and say the 986 IS a better car than the 996 (which I owned for 7 years) I have also owned 2 x 986 Boxster's for 3 years / in total.
I just PX'ed my 986 for a 718 Spyder but I do miss it, even with the 718 Spyder as compensation. A really good one is near perfection but you really need to exercise caution and have it checked over. With a 986 you need to remember you are only £10k in repair bills away from owning a car worth £10k.
My mrs has a 987 , the drivers window regulator has just went tits up this week !
@@Carrera-gp9od it's an annual event 🤦🏻
@@Carrera-gp9odSame happened on my Cayman, too.
Good morning Addicts, a great start to the weekend has arrived once again. Podcast time!
Worth staying right to the end - hilarious guys!
Note to Manish. 1994 Ferrari 456 GT Manual available in JHB South Africa ZAR 1100000.00.
"thank you for being along for the ride!" ...that's what 'he' said!
8 out of 10 on Cheese or Hard Cheese... cooper, you're a genius !!
I use my Phantom daily and have never had any abuse in 12 years. Only smiles, waves and respect. It’s just a bit big to park.
Auxiliary lamps on the TDF and 812 are not factory options. Installed aftermarket
True!
In the ‘60’s Dad had spotlights fitted to his Velox and driving from Southville to Grandparents in Wales Mum was “in charge of the spotlights “ as the switch was on her side…. Unfortunately this pic was before aforementioned lights were fitted!
For the 2CG my choice would have been a Phantom and a Zonda Roadster. I still get chills everytime I even think about the video Hammond did for Top Gear driving one, quite possibly the greatest sound I've ever heard a car make when he downshifts in the tunnel. F50 is probably my favourite car of all time but that Top Gear video is imprinted as a core memory for me.
could maybe just build yourself a tunnel :)
Has to be an LFA for the tunnels in my book!
I remember putting 2 sets of spotlights on my XR3i back in the 80s. One set integrated into the front grill and the others attached to the bumper. God those lit up the road. Thanks for reminding me of them.
As an American, Rolls Royce is the pinnacle, it's not just a British thing, and remember, Rolls Royce created the Merlin, the engine that saved Britain and made the P51. That's grit, the social perception is deluded, the Merlin engine saved Britain and defined America's favorite fighter. It is also the engine manufacturer that carries many of us through the sky from country to country, tell them that when they judge you. The "Cadillac of the sky" has a British engine, and guess what, we love it, just as we love the reversal that is the British chassis America powered AC Cobra. Odd that racing heritage carries more weight than the engineering brilliance that saved the free world. The driver should live up to the car, that is how social perception changes
Fantastic listen once again gentlemen, thank you
Totally know what they're talking about when it comes to "auxiliary" lamps. It was actually one of the things that Polyphony Digital did really well in Gran Turismo Sport when they added them to some of their Gr.B cars, particularly the bonnet lighting on the Toyota 86, Nissan GT-R, Ford Mustang and Hyundai Genesis Gr B rally cars.
Yes if theres anything Polyphony crushes other games at its their fantasy race car aesthetics.
actually service station vs cheese was great!
@collecting cars - Love the podcast - currently this latest episode only appears to be available on youtube. I've checked Apple and Spotify and the latest episode available is 53.
Music choices - perfect! 🤣
Having listened to Neil Clifford's empassioned plea, I really think we need to start a fund for all those extremely rich people who have to suffer a few funny glances from passers by when they rev their supercars at them. Thoughts and prayers are with you all at this difficult time, and I hope you somehow struggle your way through daily life.
Why do you guys always talk about F1 and never WEC? WEC is in a golden age and much, much more exciting than F1 imo
whats WEC?
@@PazLeBon The World Endurance Championship
WRC too
My entry for "Music": A Mk2 Escort (or MST Mark 2) full rally spec with a Cosworth BDG. You first go out and have play under the tuition of my favourite every competition driver and childhood hero. He then takes the wheel & shows you how it's really done. A certain Mr Ari Vatanen. 9,000 rpm every gear.... They say never meet your heros. I say that is deplorable advice. I met him twice in Sept 1993 during Rally Australia. He was a genuinely lovely guy. Meeting him was a thrill.
Fun episode. Here's a two car garage suggestion: You are the owner of a modestly successful engineering firm. You have just done the biggest deal in the history of the firm and you have a bit of a bonus as a result. You want to treat yourself, but you are an engineering designer at heart. You like tweaking things. You have 200k to spend on a restomod fun road car that you will have some input into and a family estate car. Not german. They are a bit predictable and boring. For my money i would do a 306 Maxi road car. No cage, but reinforced body, snazzy suspension, bit of a build on the engine, nice interior, cool stereo. Light pod. Natch. Estate would be 850R fully gone through to run nice.
Modern car design (as opposed to styling). Year on year screen pillars get thicker to increase rollover protection (i assume) and house yet more airbags. What about the hideously dangerous blindspots that they create? I recall Volvo (always a safety pioneer) showing a concept the "lattice" A-pillars: great idea that appears to have sunk without trace!
My view: you can keep the posh infotainment, drugdealer wheels, heated steeringwheels etc; car makers need to make _fundamentally_ better cars not punt trinkets!
im with you.. hmm, maybe bar the drug dealer wheels :)
New Rolls Royce Spectre is beautiful so is the Ferrari 296, Maserati MC20, Porsche Spyder 718, Aston Martin DB12 and new Vantage?
Cibie Oscars, the spotlight of the Gods. Fitted a pair of those, with concave lenses, to our motorcycle and finally got some respect from oncoming vehicles. 1980s night riding changed from a chore to a joy.
I think Rolls Royce lost the 'apex brand' status after the Cloud 3.
Much as I love the shape of a Shadow (or more particularly a Mulliner bodied version), they were driven by TV entertainers, comedians and even the odd TV Paedophile.
Since then they have become progressively 'gross', and to the current middle/far east taste offerings. Now RR stands for 'bad taste' in my view....sorry Neil, I mostly agree with you!
James Robertson Justice always looked the part in Clouds playing the over bearing Surgeon in films of the 60's.
bad tatse woul dbe BT mate :)
?@@PazLeBon
I think 'spice up your life' by the spice Girls would be appropriate!
Two Car Garage
You see yourself as an English country gent (but are really a little bit arriviste - having worked your way up from modest beginnings). You have just sold your last Aston Martin very well and now have £150k burning a hole in your pocket. You are bumbling about in your aging L405 Range Rover but it really should go too. After owing countless Rangies, you cannot get excited about the latest luxury offerings from Solihull and the insurance stories are off-putting.
Therefore you need two cars:
* One pretty grand tourer for weekends away and European road trips with your wife. She doesn’t like mid-engined cars, so a classic large capacity engine up the front is preferred. As she also likes open-top motoring, a convertible is going to always go down better.
* One 4x4 with genuine off-road abilities that has the cargo space (and importantly) height to accommodate your two golden retrievers in the boot. The increasingly 'slopey-backed' SUVs being churned out by the manufacturers seldom offer the hounds the required headroom. It needs to have a stupid V8 petrol engine - the old Rangie is a PHEV and can feel like it needs to be worked hard. The car should also have impeccable road manners, as it will need to make long trips a pleasure, not a chore. It will roam from the deep valleys of Devon to the purple moorlands of Northumberland It should not look like it is about deliver Class A drugs to the local neighbourhood. Luxury accoutrements are also a requirement to soothe its tired occupants with leather-bound indulgence on these long journeys.
Budget is the aforementioned £150k.
I will never correct you on cars but music - yes. The Doors got Back Door Man from the wonderful Howlin' Wolf. Great song by either performer.
I don't own a Tesla but i do like the simplicity of their styling. Modern cars generally have way too many creases in the sheet metal. Think of the classically beautiful cars: they are generally curvy, elegant and devoid of excessive detail.
simplicity maybebut th e build quality is 1980s standard at best
They are too blobby for me, the classic excellence is curvy but still has a sharp form if you follow my meaning. The tesla looks like it has melted and softened in the sun, like a cheese!
Neil Clifford I've anyone could drive a RR its you aquascutum suit and all do it!
Mazda Lemans car through the tunnels guys. Cheers 🍺
Hahahahahah! Service station or cheese done me 🤣🤣
I met David Prowes’s grand daughter at a wedding recently .
My wife was talking to her , she didn’t know who Prowse was .
I had ti explain to her she had just been talking to Darth Vaders granddaughter 😂
That Alfa with the spot lights was utterly magnificent 👍🏻
5/10 for Service Station or Cheese!!
I can't wait for my new 993 to be delivered here in Oz. Cheers.
You promised youd drive it over here for me to borrow, we still on?
Morning all ready to listen in Berlin
Further on from today’s 2 car garage, might I suggest a variation on the theme: best car acceleration noise and best car downshift noise…
Mine would be:
Acceleration: Audi Quattro S1 - ruclips.net/video/cDRkHXMHqFo/видео.htmlsi=lX_yLE4JSKX7hqlY
Down shift: The Ferrari FXX - ruclips.net/video/r_uPirgYmEY/видео.htmlsi=grQYPlqwzhlbkFPi
This podcast is more gentrified than a wine bar in the city of London
Maybe the last segment spoke volumes about what TheAddicts think about a certain F1 Team Principal,allegedly😄
Question for Chris: Is that picture in the night with the red lights behind you from @frozenspeed? Thanks!
Love this show!
Glad to hear the Boxster 986S getting some praise. I still have mine, preferring it to the 996/911. Mine is also an early one, with the fabulous orange indicators. Terrific car to drive on the back roads
Broxton😂😂 also Paul burrels fave cottaging spot when he lived in farndon😂😂 mucky pup
TVR Griffith grill lamps aren't auxiliary lamps, they're full beam 😉😘
There's nothing clever about cheese or services; it's not Roquefort science
i dont really give edam
Big issue with the ewb ghost is the drivers seat doesn’t go back enough
@chrisharris thats a preussischblau 911 964, gmodel color from the turbo range
Another excellent stream 🚘🚙🚗👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Where can I find that “Be Kind” cap stateside?
Why does it take so long for the Apple podcast version to be uploaded?
"Making Yuki wear Alpha Tari and he looks like from Team America World Police" 😂😂
Poor old Manish, the only financial mortal in the group! And a film-making doctor no less! Never fear, you’ve plenty of similarly situated friends out here.
7:00
Emma does exist!
No mention of Eleanor for great spotlight or Subaru's earlier WRX (gc8 and bug eye) range with their massive spotlights in the bumpers?
I don't believe that Manish Pandey's ride to the airport was in a standard GTC4 Lusso, more likely it was in a factory track special version.
A 993 RS with 4 valve heads ?! Wow wow wow. I had a 993 RS back when they were 60k€, and indeed, all it lacked was a proper top end to match the chassis
Could you discuss whether you would buy a category n or any nonstructural category car, for eg a brand new porsche turbo was selling for half price becasue it had some fire dmage smell in the car, would you still buy it?
Two question garage:
- Door #1: Why haven't you worked out a sponsorship deal with the Home Depot [Pavlov's U.S. dog gears up for a visit to the HD every time your theme song plays]? Or have you already and the on-the-down-low sponsorship is going gangbusters (hence my question!)
- Door #2: Is Chris Cooper somehow an aural doppelganger for comedian Tony Hawks for others as well? Or is that my 'Brits of a certain posh background all sound the same' bias?
Re 2 car garage....musically the major fifth is a naturally pleasing and soothing sound so i would have to submit that a 5 or 10 cylinder ice would be the best sound,especially in the tunnels so i would choose an Audi rs 5 cylinder or an Lfa
Some of those early Boxsters didn’t even have air conditioning
Choice:- Roof up/roof down
lmao since when did convertibles ever have or nee a irecon, its a , errm, convertible!
But a roller and take it everywhere. Same thing about the Ferrar599. If you can F@$k it just do it. We only get one trip through so have no regrets. Love ya guys, great show
There is a guy in the gym in Bournemouth that has a Silver Spirt 11 as a daily driver.
I nearly bought a rally light pod off ebay for my 1.4 escort😂
For sound f type svr ,any aston zagato, some amg and then everything else 😁
Chris, you need to document your projects on video like Metcalfe does.
im sure a lot of people have the lottery list, that bunch of cars you'd buy or build, and ive always had a late 60s corniche on there, only it would be restomodded and run full EV. its ideal as the engines arnt particularly special, and the whole idea of them is to waft around effortlessly, and being EV in a city it would be perfect.
and modern cars being rubbish is just the general feeling, yes, new cars now are starting to turn a corner and look better, but we've been through quite a few years of the 'normal' audi, BMW and Merc looking terrible. either bland or ugly. and the rise of SUVs and crossovers is also because they are so bound by the shape, to make them efficient it compromises their shape, so there is no room for decent styling.
Surprised that with unlimited budget no one went for road legal 787B. That'll be game over for everyone else.
“2 Car Garage suggestion.” For those addicts old enough to remember the 70s sitcom “Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt” played by the late Bill Maynard with his Rover P6 and episodes that always began with Mr Froggit throwing yet another parking ticket over his shoulder on to the back seat… here is a premise.
As a council labourer and a working men’s club secretary, he doesn’t want to show people that he has inherited £400K from a distant relative.
So Selwyn wants one car that he can drive to work and to the club where others do not notice too much of an upgrade from the Rover P6 but whilst having plenty of storage up front to stash even more of his newly acquired parking tickets as he no longer wants to display his complete disregard to penalty notices to others.
For his second car, when he is not at work or the club, he wants something that has the waftability that an ‘older’ gent demands, that also shows he is now ‘with cash’ whilst not being so large as to be a problem driving around the local lanes around his fictional town of Scarsdale in Yorkshire.
No restrictions as to the age of either vehicle.
Paul Biggs (a child of the 70s with a wish he could be transported back… to the 80s)
My Dad had spot lights on his 1987 Escort RS Turbo.....well it did until It got knicked by some dirty scumbag and striped for parts!!! Question for the addicts. If you could do a road trip that is a little more off the beaten track/less synonyms with road trips, where would you go and why?? And what car are you doing it in???
‘And i’m not a fan of people dying’ - Chris Cooper, 2024
lol, he doesnt move in the circles i move in :)
My grandad had a burgundy-coloured Bentley T-Series (grandma wouldn't let him have a Shadow) in Croydon in the 1970s and he had the car spat at and abuse shouted at him
Renault have now called the performance trim Clio - Esprit Alpine instead the previous RS.
Blasphemy
2 car garage: surely an EV (say Polestar 3) for whisper quiet motoring and lovely stereo. And for the engine note, a Gordon Murray Automotive T50.
Two up two down cibi super oscars on any escort/audi/starlet rally car.
Usually Cibie Super Oscar Drive lamps on top, (smaller) Oscars fogs below, angled.
One of the great things about Cibie ;auxiliary' lights design, was the concave lens design. It created an air pocket which helped to keep them cleaner ( and therefore brighter)....particularly from insects.
Some Cibie headlights had this too, but on a Group 4 Escort, we mostly ran Cibie Bi-odes which were normal shape lenses with twin reflectors/bulbs built in.
Quite powerful in their day. Pedant of the day!
Anyone else having issues with Apple Podcasts? Episode is not showing up.
Always watch on RUclips. Better as you get to see the cars being talked about etc
I think a stratos,6r4 or a quattro s1 all rally car through a tunnel all with spot lights on through a tunnel full chat- perfection or a 250lm
Would you please address the epidemic of massive and aggressive grills. It started with Audi in the early naughties. Is aggressivity such an important and desirable quality?
You are a driver who has recently lost all of their teeth in a bizarre gardening accident. You require a lawnmower you can ride that’s so smooth you can use your gumless mouth to chew berries without too much suspension movement.
lmao. i just lost 7 teeth comng off my yamaha .. 7!!!!!