This is honestly something else....
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Episode 4 of The Boys has homelander go back home in some of the most dark and psychological stuff Ive ever seen a character go through. we detail it all in the Episode Breakdown
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Torturing a child who will likely grow up to be a god and then staying in that same place for decades after was pretty fucking stupid. What where they even doing there?
Yeah it doesn’t really make sense, just a plot device
Pretty realistic, the type of people who do stuff like this think they're invincible
Earning a paycheck
@@gaiusjuliuscaesar9296 they were listening to vought who wanted to use soldier boy's dna (the greatest hero of their time) to make a super hero who would earn them millions regardless of the consequences
Research probably.
Crazy part is, I'm pretty sure the OG scene that was planned for the bunker was way different. Antony Starr himself personally disagreed with how Homelander would have acted in the original take on it, so he asked to do it in a different way.
And we got this master piece.
What was the OG scene?
Was it too much even for Anthony?
@ivixo To my understanding, Homelander was originally going to go into the bunker and kill everybody outright.
Supposedly, Anthony did not think Homelander would do that; he'd want to draw it out, so to speak, greet them with smiles, and then slowly torcher them.
@@g.r.senterprisevenatorclas7314 oh alright, good thing Anthony spoke up. He made the episode alot better and added more depth
@@Seiichiko, creative freedom is great
I never knew Homelander could be so fun when reminiscing with old friends.
Ice cream cake and waste paper basketball? Count me in!
It took me forever to notice this, but he welded the red door shut with his laser vision.
Also you don't see laser vision marks anywhere else,so im guessing he killed those people with his bare hands.
@@robertsmith-wv2hwNo shit! That's why he has blood all over him
Bad day for the security guard to take that particular shift.
Tv tropes pointed out that there’s a possibility that Barbara’s survival instincts may begin to kick in once she starts to starve.
@@noxiouschocolate9644 Licking the blood might actually help with the dehydration, but it'll be dry by the time she'll need it.
It's a question mark as to if anyone is going to find her. That many people not coming home from work would raise questions. But if this was a secret facility they lived in and with Homelander in charge of Vought, no one is coming.
Something that's funny about the horror is that long after Homelander has left, she's still in the same spot of the room. There's no place to walk around in it that isn't... you know.
The series' Homelander is a trip. He's repulsive (imo), scary af, unpredictable, unhinged, and yet, I feel sorry for him at times. The weird part is, I feel Ryan is probably his current 'saving grace.' When he told Barbara that he aims to raise Ryan himself to undo the conditioning he's got, I'm like, uh, at the core, you're still craving some sort of 'love.' Ryan's.
I think if Ryan left out of his own volition to join Butcher and MM, Homelander would go scorched earth and would just kill everyone.
He’s literally me
Seek help @@Rudenbehr
Or homelander decided to go to one of jupiter's moons to protect humanity from himself and then comes back to save everyone in the series finale
@@jamescheddar4896 That sounds like Dr Manhattan’s plot except in Dr Manhattan’s case, he just grew tired of humanity when went to space.
All that carnage won’t change his need to be loved, the very part of him that he feels makes him weak. He will never understand Ryan because he can’t relate and that’s going to piss him off but he’s not going to kill or ignore him. He needs what he thinks is love too much.
The opposite of love isn’t hate. It’s indifference. Not sure who said that but it certainly applies to Homelander.
Isn’t the opposite of love apathy?
@@Neewby not according to Elie Wiesel (I found the original quote) but the words are fairly synonymous.
SNL parody: I just want to be loved, is that so WRONG?!!!!
You don't know what the opposite of love is and you're treating some random person's statement as a trustworthy source. Lol, stop that. You don't know shit. Stop analyzing love and homelander as if you're a love expert. It's cringe af.
So what is the opposite of hate?
i like how everyone switched from "wow what a sh!tshow" to "oh f@ck"
Dude, why are you censoring your comment? It's not like somebody would ban you for word shitshow... Also; Let's ask question: Why the switch, as you call it, took place? You see, this scene is amazing for one thing. We don't see politics here. What I mean - we, viewers, are not reminded every 5 minutes about republicans vs democrats, about woke left and far right, about how we should behave. It's just raw Homelander. We are watching without breating about what he will do in next 10 second. It's scary. We see him as a pleasant man, but we all know what he is capable of. We all know he is twisted. That is what makes this show amazing. Not moraling about right bad, left good or whatever. But it's Homelander's unpredictable nature that have us on the edge of our seats.
@@sdhutusice6314nerd
@@sdhutusice6314well that's a paragraph and a half
Can't believe people review bombed this season, on rotten tomatoes, just based off of 3 episodes
@@sdhutusice6314goof point matey
This is one of the most brilliant ideas The Boys has done, and Anthony Starr really elevated the character of Homelander, the level of emotion is just crazy, and wolf in sheep’s clothing is accurate, he charms and disarms. Literally.
I'm noticing this season is really into showing guys being sexually humiliated.
I know The Boys is a grotesque parody, but this is just disgusting.
I think the show has denigrated to just trying to be shocking in every episode. That one guy who could replicate himself tossing his own salad? Totally unnecessary. It wasn't even that funny of a scene either. This season's "The Boys" is a lot worse than previous seasons, with the exception of Homelander's "homecoming" in the latest episode. Hopefully that episode will lead to better episodes in the future instead of more attempts to "shock" the audience.
He acts human before showing how much he isnt.
Or how much he is.
You might need to watch it again. Homelander is the most human character in the show. For better or worse.
Homelander most likely order each scientist into the room one by one, ripping them to shreds and played rage room with their limbs. This scene is horrifying. Toys for his amusement.
Homelander gotta be really strong if he is able to carry the whole show on his back
What, you don't love all the Frenchie shit?
Hughie and his mommy issues??
Starlight and her weird botoxed, buccal-scraped face???
you're crazy man.
What are you talking about?
My favourite episode of the boys ever purely due to these scenes. 10/10
I believe Homelander is slowly getting back at those who hurt him.
It would be more accurate to say he is going back to the beginning, to reset himself and become the person he thinks he is.
That whole scene in the bad room was him being born again, he kills a bunch of medical staff like the first time, and leaves his birthplace room/womb while he is covered in blood, like a newborn.
@@gavinpowell4607 itsnt the 1st time hl leavs a room covered in blood though
I just wish there was more scenes of homelander with him. It just shows how absolutely insane he’s gotten
I'd imagine to combat starvation, because no one would come to the rescue of a person trapped in a lab that's not known to exist, Barbara who is stuck with the remains of her colleagues would have to cannibalize. He didn't just turn everyone to mush. He left their bodies available to her. His own form of psychological scarring Barbara. Eventually, Barbara would go mad before she finally dies from starvation.
Well, those folks did have it coming, to be perfectly frank.
They were not just FOLLOWING orders. They enjoyed his plight while they were so-called following the orders, just like the Nazis. They had shed their humanity while dealing with Homelander.
It's funny how they thought to contain him so he does not kill everybody else and experiment on him to see the capabilities of his powers, but they did not once think of giving him some healthy upbringing as the strongest sup that would potentially have the power of a god on Earth would be very dangerous if his mind was shattered and grew up to become insane. But I mean they really did not think that through, considering how he turned out to become.
Homelander did nothing wrong.
Do something monsterous? Create a monster.
Create a monster? Prepare to be destroyed by your creation.
"Use it or lose it."
i like how the security guard was smart enough to not hold a gun on homelander even throught he probably knew the threat
Now that they're going this way, it's a shame they dropped the clone story. Both of them were monsters, but the significant difference between them was that Homelander KNEW he was a monster. The only reason he went bad in the first place was because of the clone's actions.
I just wanna point out that this was the third time in this show that a whale got obliterated.
That laugh was infectious lmao.
Edit: Hold up did you say Stitwell?
when you want new takes and thoughts but it’s just a recap video
S4 Ep4 was peak The Boys
Judging by what I know (I haven't seen the episode)- Homelander did good. I'd never follow orders like that, even if it meant death- following orders is no excuse for any crime.
What a waste of a cake, he could have been enjoying the sweets of his labor on his elevator ride =\
Easily the best episode yet of this season.
I feel this episode also contends with Season 3's Herogasm episode
Is this s4 ep4?
I cared more about the cake that melted
This was a brilliant scene, he should get back to being a ruthless killer. He has been somewhat tame in season 3.
Sooo... When is Homelander gonna start eating a baby like in the comics?
Yeah, I know it's not actually him, he believes it is.
They missed the perfect bottle episode. If they had added more layers to this story, this could have gone down as one of the best Boys episodes ever. Not that the other subplots are bad, but I really wish we could have saved it for the next episode and just stayed the entire time at Homelander’s beginnings, showcased his split personalities transform into the darkest, ugh. Should have been a bottle episode
Between Sabertooth and Homelander idk who’s the worst sadist never
Anthony Star never get his Emmy is the real tragedy
I haven't started season 4 yet, but you'd think they'd have supes guarding this place. Then again, it wouldn't make much of a difference against homey
Yeah ok season 4 isn't the best but you can't say that Homelander isn't doing it FUCKING DIABOLICAL!.... On this season.
best episode of the entire series in my opinion
Wouldnt someone end up coming to the lab and releasing Barbara eventually tho
I think he welded the door shut
Top secret lab so not many employees to begin with, not really appearing to be active as there's no test subject; therefore, no reason for Vought to necessarily contact them urgently (although the phone lines are cut regardless). Homelander welding the door as you can see the scorched marks at the hinges. Maybe she'll live but unlikely.
I might be wrong but it looked like Homelander singed the door shut
@@frankylocc I think someone still checks on it, like weekly reports or something
Considering this place is owned and run by Vought and Homelander either killed everybody on the upper floors or just removed them in various other ways... no.
He also is the head of Vought now so I'm pretty sure he'll just go back to the Tower and make it all go away.
He can literally do what he wants with the company, nobody can stop him and everybody at Vought especially knows this.
The only person I can picture being able to figure things out after he cleans house in his "old home" is Sage.
Yea i feel really bad for bro.
Christ, i have no words
bro just read off the captions
How come they only showed the grotesque torture and murder scenes for the white guys?
Sure, just use the most iconic synthwave track as your background music. Not driving viewers into an emotional SACKGASSE DU HURENSOHN
Those weren't German soldiers, they were high officials of the Reich.
Magneto: I’ve been at the mercy of men just following orders. Never again!
Magneto is an imbecile
Magneto is an imbecile
Dr Doom to Wolverine
"I'll make you wish you were facing Magneto." 😂
That's the best Magneto diss ever 😂😂😂😂😂
@@BradleyLodge yeah Magneto is a little bitch compared to DOOM
@@BradleyLodge Dr.Doom is another level of menace 🤣
When the B plot is A material.
And lets be honest this episode, A plot is B material
@@taronhadlames84Just finished the episode, I wish they’d payed more attention to it. Also this season has too many people are saying “I’m sorry” for shit you can’t apologize for. It’s supremely annoying. It’s happened like ten times already.
@@amateur-madman3047The theme of this season is about forgiving your past.
This episode was the best this season BY FAR.
@@MrRhinosoul why tho? I see people saying this but I genuinely want to know why. Isn't this episode just a continuation of the previous?
Can't even blame Homie for being a psycho
He isn’t the only supe raised in a lab, while some of the others are like him, some aren’t. Whether you blame him or not he is still responsible for this sht lol.
@@user-wy1et9dk9w im pretty sure most supes atleast had families growing up but homelander was straight up a lab rat
Many who do go crazy do so because of how they were raised. Sad to me that parents are not held accountable for their child's actions, no matter their age.
@@user-wy1et9dk9w they all had families, he was a lab rat. Manipulated, tortured, and abused as a child. He didn't choose his path.
@@Zzuesdefinitely! Being raised in a unhealthy home is never an excuse to go full psycho in your adult years. But bad parents just don’t get blamed enough for their children’s screwed up actions. Who knows? Maybe Hitler would’ve been more well adjusted if his father didn’t beat the crap out of him.
this is why you send a boy with super powers to kansas.
😂😂😂
Brightburn would (dis)agree 😂
Yeah new york is no place to raise someone to be morally upright and ethical XD
@@MayankKumar-mn3dg Ultraman would also disagree
Homelander, Hyperion and Ultraman - the "Super Psycho Gang".
the cake melting was the saddest part of the entire episode
Wasted a perfectly good Fudgie smh
Wouldn't surprise me majority of fans of this show would be saddened most by wasted cake, silly fat mfers 😂
Why did I lowkey feel bad for cake
@@squidward9747Cakes are always innocent 😢😢
The cake did nothing wrong.
I saw a comment in a thread that noticed there weren't lasers on the wall. He tore those people apart
thats gruesome
It was very personal
thats very true...holy fuck
I feel bad for those staff members, what the actual fuck did they do to him?
@@drunkgeek3035he just wanted to make Barbara suffer. That’s all they were to him; an audience for the first two victims, and a means to punish Barbara
Everything is messed up. This cold lab is Homelander’s real home and when he brought that cake with that fake smile there is a deep sadness and bitterness to it. The whole scene is unsettling and tragic. He was raised in this cold, lonesome lab, it was revealed he was manufactured to crave love but he can never get it, and he will still never be happy. Now he realised it, and looks like he has accepted it, he is ready to burn the whole world down because ultimately it amounts to nothing anyway. He will never be happy, he will always be alone, so what matters even?
I don't think that's quite what they were going for...like obviously he needs love. As for "never getting it" though? Narratively, sure...but he has a clear path to truly receiving love from Ryan.
He literally came to this lab BECAUSE he kept pushing Ryan away and he realized it. "You really screwed this one up" is literally something that his own brain tells him when he upsets Ryan.
@@brendonw456i guess a lot of ppl take into an account of what 'love' should be as a set of (higher) perceived standards that gets determined in its absolute form of truth to what it should & shouldn't be as...
'love' is just as complex as its simple essence of what it is and it's just 'deep affection' that's rooted onto something or someone.
@brendonw456 maybe it both
@@NandoGarcia-q5h Maybe, but I don't really see anything in the scene that actually suggests he has freed himself of his need for love.
If anything. I see the opposite. Because he's still doing the same thing he's always done. He viewed these scientists as parental figures and...well...he's literally killed every single parental figure he's ever had.
Except for Stan Edgar. Though idk if that relationship is particularly parental. They both seemed to keep it all transactional
@@brendonw456 stan is dead
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
smiling-girl-in-front-of-burned-house.jpg
Soy comment
As HOME - Resonance plays in the background
This is deep.Do you know who made the quote or are you the creator
@@sinofprideescanor6619 Stole ot from the inter
Nobody ever owned up to what they did. Barbara was the worst of all because she tried to pin Homelanders misery on him but then reveals he was mentally made to stay? She deserves the bad room.
Exactly. All of the "I'm so sorry"s weren't them having any remorse for what they did. None of them felt sorry for what they did. They were only sorry they were being held accountable for their actions just like the Nazis who were "just following orders."
They’ll free her up tomorrow
@@Botkilla2K12 dumbest comment ever, comparing to na'zis, why not communists ?
@@linny_pinny…because they did awful things to an (at the time) innocent under the excuse of following orders?
@linny_pinny because the comparison was made in the video and this series' lore about super powers has nazi experiments involved?
I'm surprised that nobody noticed this yet, but that room symbolizes his mother's womb, hence why it's gorey and filled with blood and guts. This is no more evident than Homelander being showered with blood at the end, symbolizing his rebirth. We also know this because of what was explained earlier in the episode about how Homelander killed some of the scientists and doctors during his birth, just like he did many years later in that same place.
Yo good observation
Excellent point lad
Astute eagle iron eye observation. 🔥
Nice one😮
Chill English teacher
That whole episode might just be my favorite episode yet.
no, no, no... your favorite episode is herogasm from S3.
3:36 This shot is 🔥🔥
Fr
It gave me Joker vibes (plays Rock n Roll pt 2 in the background)
@@wolfzeru5745yeah, reminds me of joaquin’s joker
Gonna be iconic.
He looks real proud of himself 😅
0:30 That and that's almost certainly how his handlers/teachers growing up approached him. Probably always came up all nice, then turned on the incinerator, hahaha.
That's an interesting take
I had a feeling he was gonna murder everyone in that room, and he did. I think Ashley and A-train are gonna die
A train might be able to put up a good fight or just run away he’s too fast for the lasers so his best bet is not letting homelander catch him
@@randomcomment262homelander can fly faster
@@RTstudios-xs6fw I mean we've only really seen him float. The fastest he flew in the show was when he lasered the jet and I think A-Train is faster than a jet
@@RTstudios-xs6fwNo the hell he cant.
@@blackanimedude4095fine then, search it up I dare you
Episode 4 was much better than the other three. It felt like it was actually going somewhere. While the others felt slower and were filler/introducing the new characters
I assume that they've got first three as an introduction to the scene. Summing the stuff up before the great show to begin. Hence those wasn't as breathtaking as the "acting" episodes.
At this point any scene other than homelander and butcher feels like fillers
@@Shaunshahriarreal
@@Shaunshahriarreal, I have no interest in Frenchies gay shit or backstory whatsoever or kimikos, don’t care about hughies dad either.
Tbh ep 4 was still pretty bad, only homelander and butcher were actually watchable
Truly a great episode in season 4
Im happy homelander was so warm to frank after all these years.
This one seemed like a return to form for Homelander. Seasons 3 and 4 (so far) have really played into his sexual frustration and “manchildness” but this episode explored his psychology in a more nuanced way that reminded me of earlier seasons, where he’s still holding it together but the suspense builds and makes your skin crawl. I think these psychological horror elements are what really established Homelander as one of the scariest on-screen villains.
One moment you hate Homelander for being a psycho. The next moment you emphathize the reason behind his behavior.
empathize? with him? hahahahaha
If you emphasize with him you’re not seeing the bigger picture
@@johnnyk.4152 I mean you can emphasize with past him in a way like what he is now has to die but you can feel sorry for him and that he became this
I think sympathy is a better word.
That doesnt justify anithing, he is a psycho just like you if you emphathize with him
This is basically what any government from any universe would do to a captive superhero if their secret identities were exposed.
Did these people just continue to work in the same tiny little facility for like 30 years with the same (still functional) oven? What are they doing down there?
Vought employees don’t leave much.
NDAs, too much liability to be let go.
What were they doing? The pictures themselves showed Vought producing other supes like Homelander in similar ways.
Until Edgar’s leave, they were still running that death camp like business as usual.
@@kingol4801 Makes sense - it's funny they still work on one tiny floor with no renovations or upgrades though
@@insanecandycane1283 I always assumed that the elevator counting down the floors implied something. Homelander went to the very bottom in the 6th basement level where I assume they would keep a homelander tier supe - why make upgrades when not many people would ever make it to that level?
one of them was doing something with a green liquid, seems like they were researching temp-v maybe?
Don’t forget that Homelander lasered his way out of the womb and hovered above his mother still attached. Nasty stuff.
they could've shown that
Barbara could have lied about that because if they are trying to create the strongest superhero then they wouldn’t just use a normal woman, my guess his mom is Stormfront
Homelander maimed him?! That's a bit of an understatement. Homelander lasered his junk off.
He just added speed holes, makes you run faster.
Lobotomy scene was more painful
100%
Whats that? Lobotomy
@@jaydevacharya12 the thing the deep did to sister sage with the hammer n shit
@@jaydevacharya12 It's a medical procedure from old times but the gist of it is you stick a needle through someone's eye socket into their brain and twirl the needle around to mess up connection inside the brain it was used to "calm down" clinically insane people but in reality it just makes it so that you literally cannot think anymore and some people also say it was used to deal with internal enemies of the state non-lethally "calming" them down as well.
"This is the worst dildo I ever seen" - The Peak
Homelander really landed at his home
🚬🗿
At least he’s got THAT to add to his portfolio.
Took them a while to bring season 4 up to snuff.
Also it's wild that homelander acknowledges he's become a monster but lacks the capability to stop being one
Snuff. Well said.
That last part was disturbing as F. HE DIDNT LASER THEM, HE TORE THEM APPART
He deserves an awards dude range is amazing
Can you go over why homelander called it the “Bad Room”?
he was tortured in that room through Experiments on him by the vought scientist.
@@skyjack2600 thanks
bruh do that brain of urs pause when that scene was going it was easy to guess why it was Bad Room literally at last scene how scientists were killed in that room that's exact way those scientists in 1980s did to Homelander
@@GREATEternalWarrior broo chill its not that deep
@@GREATEternalWarrior I cant even read what you are saying, you type like a 7 year old
I just don’t care about anything other than homelander in this show because he’s more interesting
Exactly, I couldn’t care less about the protagonists. The characters I’ve been the most interested in are A train, soldier boy, og black noir, and homelander
@@lugit36 a train is a very interesting character makes me wonder will he leave the seven
@@lugit36 And Butcher.
@@loudtaste1046he legit cant and he knows it
To be fair main antagonists being the most interesting parts of stories is pretty common for this reason. They are frequently the most captivating.
imagine getting a job at a place and being killed because of something the older employees did like 40 years ago
Imagine getting free cake because of it though, and technically, being able to knock off early.
New employees are there to do the same to other kid sups
Kinda messed up that homelander was raised to yearn for love but they purposefully denied it for him so that they can have power over him
Hot take: S4 E4 better than herogasim
Homelander did nothing wrong this time. This one time he wasnt the scary one. He wasnt the villain. Anti hero moment. And i bet he uses this to go after vought for all the other young supes they are cooking up themselves. Hes gonna really lean into that messiah complex soon.
no, he was very much a villain here. Most of the people he slaughtered were too young to have had anything to do with his twisted upbringing. Maybe they're torturing a new batch of supe kids, but the emptiness of the lab shows otherwise.
@@TheMotherofTacos nah bullshit. they are all working for vought and we know they have plenty kids and shady shit from past seasons. the science division at vaught is evil. i don't feel the least bit sorry for them.
He killed people. He very much did something wrong, don't be a fucking psycho. And he deliberately wanted to be the scary one, the second guy he murdered died as a result of being too scared in that moment. Get your head on straight.
the majority of them had probably been doing similar things to kids at some point before this scene though, especially while stan edgar was still the CEO which wasn't long before this scene
@@bencatzilla exactly! you don't get to that level where you see the true origins of where homelander was raised unless you have high clearance to what vought is doing. they ain't good people.
I've never been more terrified from homelander before.
Everytime he smiles I'm just expecting him to laser someone in this episode.
Anyone else notice that Barbara was showing fear after he killed all of the colleagues? Its as if Homelander was irritated that he couldn't intimidate her initially like he did to everyone else.
Bro had everyone eat cake before getting killed ☠️
This was cinema at its finest
Its funny you know Vought is a million dollar company and they couldn't hire or find a loving family to take care of Homelander.
But then again love is something million dollar companies are known for not having.
Multi billions. They have endless amount of resources at their hands.
They didn't show him love so they could control him .
*Resonance casually playing in the background.*
It puts all those earlier season confrontations between Homelander and Stan Edgar in their proper context I think. While fans enjoyed Edgar dunking on Homelander, what we were really seeing was a power dynamic where the kid who had been traumatized was being dismissed by the person who traumatized them. Edgar sneered at Homelander for being a psychological mess, while he was the one who made him that way. Homelander would not be the first to claim "I am the punishment of God. If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you."
As for the whole "following orders" thing - its hard to believe the writer wasn't trying to condition the audience.
Trueeee
The following orders thing wouldn't even fly with Homelander because his grudges clearly stem from the fact nobody ever showed any remorse. Frank played games while he burned in that furnace, the others laughed, called him names, or just didn't care. That's worse than anything else and the fact they're still trying to prey on his insecurity trying to lecture what's right and wrong NOW, instead of during his formative years is just another nail in the coffin for these creeps
@@Subpar1O1 Agreed, its why I think the "just following orders" is intended by the writer to induce a Pavlovian response in the viewer.
We're conditioned to think that "just following orders" means the worst possible evil. So why in 2024 would characters in a TV show tell Homelander they were "just following orders"? They - as characters in their own reality - are deliberately associating themselves with something which is inexcusable evil.
This is a sin of the writer. Within the terms of the setting, Vought - a US corporation led by a man like Stan Edgar - traumatized a child. They got Homelander. Trying to pass off the sins of Vought to "just following orders" is just some weird revenge fantasy insert by the writer who is paid by a US corporation to follow orders.
@@JonWilde2105 The writer wasn't trying to "pass off" anything. The "just following orders" phrase gained notoriety when it was used as a genuine excuse by Nazis during the Nuremberg trials. The idea here is not to pass on the blame but the opposite, to draw parallels between the fictional and real situation and show that just like the Nazis, those individuals are still guilty for their atrocities.
@@saucevc8353 I've taken some time to consider this comment. Because it was so profound. It changed my view on the world. On life. I sold all my worldly possessions. I donated the proceeds to an israeli settler community built over the ruins of a Palestinian village. I then plucked out my own eyes, and wandered out into the desert to find God. And a braille keyboard.
And yet, my brother in Christ, I struggle. I have listened to God, but still, I struggle. To comprehend the glory of your message. I have already told you the writers were deliberately using the "just following orders" meme to associate characters with 1933-1945 Germany. I know this. I have understood that The Boys is a fictional universe in which the holocaust has happened. So the fictional characters in that fictional universe have the same pavlovian response to the "just following orders" meme you have. And yet you tell me what I already know, as if there was something to the jibber and jabbering.
Is there a time in your life some evil has been done, and the excuse that the evildoer was "just following orders" and thought, that will work? So why would these fictional characters think it would work? The only plausible reason is the fictional Boys universe exists in a reality where the "just following orders" defence was never attempted so these idiots think its still viable. Which is bad writing. Or just really shit writing.
Homelander is Just Like Indominus Rex Tbh
Antony Starr's performance and Homelander ark is the best thing in the Boys
Episode 4 was literally looking back at everyone's past. Hughie and A-Train's "history", Starlight and Firecracker, HL, Kimiko, and Frenchie.
too bad Starlights past was pulled out of thin air.
The whole point of her character was that she is goody two shoes.
The fact that she spread lies about firecracker and that she is *this* easily capable of going into a killing frenzie really eats away at her character.
As of right now, her character is basically totally deconstructed. I don't know how they are gonna remedy that.
This episode makes Homelander an even more intimidating and sinister character. They did really a great job on this. 👍
This, Herogasm, S3 & S4 finale were my favourite episodes of the show so far. S3 finale didn't end with the most consequential events but I still loved it.
2:36 This puts into perspective why he was annoyed at the Deep etc. for not standing up to him
Marty's death and Ezekiel's death made me die of laughter. Loved this episode
Honestly, best episode ever
Man...I know reception for Season four hasn't been fantastic due the political satire being handled with less finesse and a great deal of developments happening for no reason other than the plot needing them to, but, I'm really liking what this season is doing with the character arcs of Homelander, Butcher and Hughie. IMO these scenes where peak Boys. I also really liked the scene between Butcher and Ryan.
Thank God Superman was raised by actual people.
In another show, this could be your typical vengeance scene Kill Bill like, but here he’s supposed to be the villain
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This the one time homelander gets a pass for being a monster, those scientists had it coming 🤣
If you understood human psychology and was realistic, he gets a pass in general.
Children raised by animals (feral children) for too long become amoral, and even upon discovering human civilization never adapt to it… and want to go back to living in the forest.
There was a guy raised by wolves all of his life (Wikipedia article on feral children). He would behave like one, and after being re-introduces to human civilization he would only get addictions (cigarettes, etc)…. And no amount of psychology could fix his need to eat the meat raw and want to go back to the woods.
In this instance, ALL of Homelander is an immoral being. And yes, same thing - exposure to immoral/amoral conditions for too long just sets the person’s default to something quite tragic.
You cannot judge a being like that by the normal human notions of morality. You can, but it will be unfair and a true mismatch.
A human being that is beyond traumatized and tortured will not magically understand notions of “good” or “evil”. Their definitions will be broken.
People assume morality is an internal thing, but it is 100% nurture.
A human without teaching of morality will not develop it.
They can, but it will not be as developed as a civilizations one.
Same thing as any other science. A human can intuitively learn how to count or even maybe multiply. But that is as far as their math will go by themselves re-inventing it.
A human that was grown without formal math teaching will fail to produce that knowledge at the level of other “normal” people. Their brain structure and way of thinking will be all wrong.
Same thing here. Homelander is a “bad victim”. The kind of being who is not at fault in any way, since their entire existence is a manufactured nightmare…. But vengeful and unlikable nonetheless.
Obviously, the only moral thing there is for Homelander to do is to cease to exist. Regardless of whose fault it is, he will forever be in pain and hurting.
“Hurt people hurt people”.
But everything, every malice and inability to adapt to normal human environment and intra-human conditioning moral is just not his fault. He is permanently damaged at a very core by others, and cannot physically do that.
In a similar way how a feral child/adult will never be able to become “normal”. Just too much brain damage.
@@kingol4801 I’m not reading all that
@@kingol4801I have some news for you buddy, humans are apex predators. Do wolves cook meat in a frying pan?
@@kingol4801 that sad moment when you write something only a guy with a functional brain could write but then a p3do says “I won’t read that” 😂😂😂
@@Canyon_StormI didn’t read all of it either
Homelander left that bunker just as human as when he entered it