NuPhy Air75 vs Logitech MX Mechanical Mini - Best Keyboard for Mac
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- I compare the NuPhy Air75 to the Logitech MX Mechanical Mini for Mac, it's a battle of low profile mechanical keyboards for Mac!
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*NOTE* the NuPhy Air75 V2 is now out and is even better than the V1! Check out my review video here: ruclips.net/video/9Si_7shsdFk/видео.html
about to watch your vid, jw did they update the software for programming keys on Mac OSX yet?
I just got a Logitech MX Mechanical Mini after almost 2 years with a Nuphy F1 - loved it. Saddly, the keycaps are very flimsy and I had to super glue some, and Nuphy support was shameful regarding this major build quality defect. Love the MX Mech Mini as well now.
How do you only have 415 (+1) subs? You must have just begun your RUclips journey. Great video man. I wish you the best of success here!
Thank you! I started the channel a couple months ago so still early for sure. Appreciate it!
Great review! And great video quality!
Thank you!
Great review! You deserve more subscribers, so here's one! :) Keep up the great content bro
I was hoping to get the Nuphy on Amazon because it ships by tomorrow, but I can’t tell if they have the 2.0 keys on them. They didn’t say… any thoughts on if they wouldn’t have them for some reason?
Is the air75 and mx mechanical mini the same size. Because I'm thinking to buy the nufolio for my mx mechanical mini.
In the EU the MX mini is cheaper - is there any reason to get the NuPhy then?
Thank you so much for your video!
Keyboard is not only about Physical Keys and Switches. It is also about Software Quality and Battery Life (especially with Wireless). There is no point of buying ultra level keyboard which will cost 250$+ if it does not have proper software and OS support. With wireless keyboard it is even more important, because I do not want to lose connection, have lags and etc. In case of Mac, Logitech is the only known brand that makes proper keyboards for Mac, you may easily find worldwide. Even original Apple Keyboards with ISO garbage (they sell everywhere except USA), is not that good with low profile. I personally use Steel Series for PC, but for Mac I got this one, even though i have Touch ID Keyboard in Mini Form-factor. I got mine for 110$ (shipping included).
But if you don't want input lag, the MX mini mech is not great. It has a low polling rate for a keyboard in this price range.
Can you lube soldered-in switches, like on the Logitech? Also- can you do aftermarket keycaps on the Logitech?
Great video, i am currenly wait my nuphy air 2
Does Nuphy Keyboard work with Logitech's workflow technology? I have MX 3S Logitech mouse , and like it alot.
I have the Black Air75 with case and I love it
Just ordered my Air75 today :) I know shipping might take awhile, but I'm beyond excited!
I hope you love it!
@@semiprotech I'll update you when it arrives and I get to use it for a bit!
@@ExistentialPerplexityUpdate on that yet?
@@servantbyday So shipping was A LOT quicker than expected. Probably 5 or so days ahead of schedule? The keyboard itself is great, through if you want built in adjustable feet, the V2 of this keyboard is on preorder right now. I went with the brown switches and the typing experience has been good overall as well.
@@ExistentialPerplexity Do you have some problem with Bluethooth? What's your opinion about the connectivity?
I've got the Nuphy Air75 with brown switches and I absolutely love the keyboard just like everyone else. BUT, their support is by far the worst I've had. I sent an email to them, did not get a response for a week so I emailed them again, got a response after a few days, and they did not even answer my question. I had to do plenty of back and forth, clearly stating that I'm on Mac, yet they told me to find a windows computer to solve my issue which was updating the firmware to make my receiver work with my Mac. Keep this in mind if you are purchasing this for the Mac.
Sorry to hear about the support issue you had, and I do agree the console software needs work (and a Mac version). It didn't happen to me with the Air75, but with the Halo65 I had a similar issue where I needed to update the firmware and had to use a Windows machine to do it. I hadn't turned on my old Windows desktop in over a year but I had to resurrect it just to use NuPhy console.
@@semiprotech Looking at it from the outside, it seems like they are getting tons of sales, so they should have budget to develop a Mac software for sure. My issue is that I'm in a foreign country and have no access to a Windows machine right now. I'll simply have to scout around and beg someone to borrow it for a few minutes haha! Cheers.
i want a nuphy with those logitech keycaps, might actually need to design my own stacked acrylic board, a low profile hhkb layout board would be awesome for taking around. Guess I have my project for the next month.
Excellent comparison, mate! I finally bought the NuPhy Air60 after several unpleasant experiences with some Keychrons (K3, S1, K7 Pro). My biggest gripes were the awful Bluetooth connectivity with Windows and poor battery life. All 3 Keychrons had the same problems. I've got an MX Keys Mini that's been a solid performer, but I still prefer mechanical switches. The MX Mech Mini is just too pricey for how little it offers. I've heard nothing but good things about NuPhy, so am pretty psyched about getting my hands on the Air60.
Thank you! I am planning to get the Air60 to test out that layout but I'm sure the typing feel is similar to the Air75. I hope you enjoy it!
can you share your experience on S1?
@@rodrod6767 The S1 was the best of the 3 Keychrons I tried. However, it's wired only so I couldn't use it with my MacBook Air M2 or iPad Pro M1. Also, the S1 doesn't have flip down feet to raise the back of the keyboard to a more comfortable typing angle. Instead, it has a pair of rubber risers that plug into the bottom right/left corners. Typing on the S1 was a pleasure, so if my criticisms don't matter, you might find it a good keyboard.
Agree about the Keychrons. The power management and Bluetooth wake is apalling.
@@svlagonda7417 Nailed it!
For nuphy if I remap the key or macro via window and use it on a Mac it would work right?
It’s difficult for me to take your review seriously when you have an affiliate link for the nuphy.
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Same thing I was thinking, and then in the video he tries to minimize each con the Nuphy has by saying things like "a minor con."
True, but from all the review/comparison videos I’ve seen, no one seems to like the Logitech plus you can always get 10% off at Nuphy. There’s the Nuphy air75 v2 now and for the price of the Logitech, Lofree Flow is a better choice in my opinion
Ok completely clear. Thank you! But what about the K3 Pro vs Air75? I can't choose between them.
Question about NuPhy and Mac. I have both computers, Mac and PC, so I can remap on Windows NuPhy app to use it on Mac, right?
Yes! If you remap on Windows it will carry over. I was able to do a little remapping of my Halo96 on an older Windows desktop and it works great with my Mac.
In case you didn't get a keeb yet - I cannot recommend Keychron at all. I have the K3 and the battery is completely dead after less than 2 years of ownership. It lasts literally 5 seconds.
Would be good to review the v2 with Logitech.
I must be easy to please. I love my Mx mechanical. I have the universal with the clicky switches.
Is it possible to make the backlight non colorful, just white? This is the only thing that confuses me compared to the K3 Pro and Logitech
Yes you can, you can cycle through individual color options with Fn + right arrow and white is one of the options. It's available for most of the RGB modes, only a couple are multi-color only.
Honestly, logitech and some other companies are gunna have to start improving their build quality in order to compete with similar price products from other brands with much better quality
but my mx mechanical mini and mx keys s mini both have very good build quality
Not giving you the option to us the keyboard in wired mode is a dealbreaker for me since I can not connect wireless or Bluetooth keyboards to the work PC, but I do love the wireless functionality for home use.
In short, I want to use my own keyboard for use at home, and at work.
The biggest con with NuPhy is that they don't have iso-layout, which most European countries uses. Including mine which uses a Nordic iso layout, thus making NuPhy a no go. It's why I went for Mx mechanical mini as it is literally the only option which exist. Even Keychron doesn't have the same form factor with iso-Nordic layout.
I’m also an iso user (British and Norwegian layouts dual input on Mac) but a workaround I’ve decided to make is just edit the keys to those that I use on VIA. Although the enter key is annoying.
learn touch typing
problem solved
I have the MX Mini. Good keyboard but my main criticisms are unsatisfying typing action of the brown switches and the donnay flimsy keycaps
I was the same way, I tried Keychron and it was much much more pleasant to type on and my current Nuphy Air 96 is my favorite of them all so far.
im about to get the numphy 96. oh i use arch linux btw @@ScottKelley
- 00:09 💸 Both keyboards were purchased by the reviewer; Newfie Air 75 is popular, and Logitech is a market leader.
- 00:36 💰 Pricing: Logitech MX Mechanical Mini for Mac is $149, Newfie Air 75 is $109.95 plus $15 shipping, totaling $124.95, with a potential 10% discount via an affiliate code.
- 01:18 🛠 Logitech MX Mechanical Mini details: plastic bottom, aluminum top, ABS keycaps, white backlight, hover-sensitive backlighting (works inconsistently).
- 02:25 🔋 Battery life: MX Mechanical Mini lasts 15 days with backlighting, 10 months without, thanks to its 1500mAh battery.
- 02:59 📶 Connectivity: Bluetooth with three device switching, Logie Bolt receiver compatible (not included), no wired option (USB-C only for charging).
- 03:48 🔄 Keycaps and customization: Mac-specific keycaps, customizable function keys (F4-F12) via Logie Options Plus software.
- 04:18 🔧 Switches: Logitech uses Kailh switches (tactile only for Mac model), described as scratchy and unpleasant; soldered switches (non-hot-swappable).
- 06:00 🤔 Reviewer’s opinion: Unpleasant typing experience and non-hot-swappable switches are deal-breakers.
- 06:15 🔄 Pros and cons: Logitech's battery life and aesthetics vs. Newfie's lower price, additional connection options, better typing experience, and customizable switches.
- 08:17 💡 Backlighting and customization: Newfie Air 75 has full RGB backlighting, customizable via console software (Windows only), not compatible with VIA or QMK.
- 08:51 🦶 Feet comparison: Logitech has fold-out feet; Newfie has magnetic detachable feet, which can be placed over a Mac laptop keyboard.
- 09:08 💻 Final thoughts: Reviewer prefers Newfie Air 75 over Logitech MX Mechanical Mini for better value, features, and typing experience.
I lubbed my nuphy air 60 and absolutely it's other level, but now you can get yourkeyboard lubbed since the website and you can choose between more switches options.
Aside from other issues like swapping the switches, I don't understand why you would limit yourself to the Mac version of the Logitech keyboard.... The regular version has double labeling of the keycaps while the keyboard auto-detects the used OS and it also comes with the 2.4g USB dongle. I am a Mac only user, I have no Windows systems and only have Raspberry Pi's and a SteamDeck as additional machines if the keyboard would be used with anything other than a Mac. I would never buy the Mac specific version, what is the added benefit of doing that?
It comes in white.
@@servantbyday in partially white/grey 🤷🏻♀️ I would choose for additional functionality instead of an incorrect color scheme, to each his or her own opinion though
You can actually use the higher quality Nuphy keycaps to replace the standard flimsy Logitech keycaps on the MX
most of the keys except the space bar i think
@@dave982 do you know of a company thatll make caps for the space bar too?
I stopped using my MX Mini because the keys are EXTREMELY sensitive. If your finger just barely nicks the surrounding keys, it's a press resulting in many typos..........or perhaps my fingers are too fat????
So you bought both of these boards but you have some have a coupon from NuPhy. Interesting though
Yes. I signed up for the NuPhy affiliate program which is where the coupon code is from. I personally bought a Halo96 and Air96 before starting this channel, and bought the AIr75 and Halo65 myself as well. I have no relationship with Logitech. I also own several other keyboards that I bought myself and haven't made reviews about yet. I signed up for the NuPhy affiliate program because I believe in their products and affiliate commission is a viable way to get some return on the hours (like, dozens of hours) that these videos take to make when you're a one-person channel. NuPhy offered to send me the Halo75 and Air60 after seeing my videos, so those two were sent to me for review which I state at the beginning of the videos (Air60 review coming soon). Lots of the gear I still plan to review on this channel I purchased myself, either because I'm an enthusiast or because I picked it up over the last couple of years while running my other RUclips channel and podcast (@PODinsights which is about selling on Etsy).
Man, the MX Mechanical Mini for Mac looks sexy. Too bad they don't have it in the same color for Windows.
Its weird they dont make type c dongle
IMO the Logitech wins with aesthetics and the Nuphy with everything else.
Very fair assessment
I agree. That Logitech keyboard is sexy af...but the price tag is just a drag.
I really prefer the looks of the nuphy. One of the best looking keyboards
No seriously there is NO POINT to restrict wired mode from these keyboards. So if it's charging it can't be used?
Me, watching this while desoldering the keys on my MX mechanical mini with a bag of MillMax sockets next to me 👀
height comparison?
at the highest point, the MX Mechanical Mini is a bit taller at 1.02 inches compared to 0.63 inches for the Air75.
I have MX mechanical and after 1 year my keycaps are starting to crack
My Nuphy75 is being delivered today… can’t wait! (hurry up, UPS!)
Hope you like it! I rotate through my 75s (I have too many) and it always feels like "why wasn't I just using this one?" when I switch back to the Air75.
@@semiprotech that tends to be the case for a lot of enthusiasts.
How's the keyboard? Did it meet your expectations?
Good thing I waited. V2 is now out.
I think the Logitech is not made for mechanical kb fans/geeks etc. who mod their kb, replace caps/switches etc. And it doesn't compete against those high quality custom keyboards
It's a decent priced mechanical intro for mac users
For me, NuPhy keyboard just doesn't make much sense with its minimal package. Clearly, it is supposed to be purchased with extras. Making a keyboard with backlight and solid key caps just doesn't make any sense. Well, for me the backlight is not really required, but what about the battery life then? Why is it so short compared to logi? Does it not sleep, does it always on and have no lag when you press a key after long inactivity? If that is the case I'm willing to give it a go, but if it still has this "wake-up lag" then there is no point.
Using MX Mech mini for almost a year now. Bought Nuphy, used it for one day, immediately sold it. The logitech bolt connection is unbeatable in terms of reliability.
I returned the MX Mech mini after a day. It's very slow if you do some occasional gaming. I know it's not meant for that, but still. It doesn't outperform my 15 year old (wired) Dell keyboard that cost 15 euros.
Yeah, these reviewers are just getting paid by Nuphy to bomb the Logi. They never stress the importance of a reliable connection that just makes the keyboard work and the great battery life.
I was going to get mx mechanical mini and then realised their software is nowhere to be found on android...
I think that is true of both Android and iOS… and is also true of Nuphy, not just Logitech. I don’t think keyboard software is really a thing on mobile platforms at this time… at least not that I’ve seen. The keyboards still work on Android/iOS just fine.
In india nuphy air 75 is 37000 India rupees which is approximately equal to 400-450 us dollar while Logitech mx mini is about 150 us dollar 😅
Yeah. A Keychron K3 Pro might be a better alternative to MX in India
V2 go QMK/VIA 🎉
Yes! I'm excited for V2!
Space key in logi is a fail
Omph. NuPhy's battery seems a bit light for a $130 keyboard. And the light doesn't shine through? Then why bother with the light at all?
The mini's aesthetics is geared for adults whereas the NuPhy's look is ... well ... not.
The NuPhy certainly "sounds" better though I always hope for silence. Maybe someday one of these companies will produce a silent mechanical.
They’ve got a set of shine-through keycaps you can purchase separately.
Normally, with a regular mechanical keyboards, there are many options for more silent switches and you can swap them out easily. For example, Durock Silent Linear switches are popular silent switches. With low-profile switches, there aren't as many alternative options, but going with linear switch alone will reduce the among of noise. NuPhy has a switch called Aloe which is a low travel linear switch and you can order the keyboard with that switch preinstalled rather than the Gateron Brown 2.0 in this video. They will be more quiet. That's the beauty of many mechanical keyboards, you can fine tune the typing experience with the many different switches available. With the Logitech, you are stuck with what you get. It's not just the sound that the Logitech switches fall behind on, the scratchy sound is because the key stem doesn't depress as smoothly, you can really feel the difference side by side.
If shine through keys are desirable, NuPhy does offer an optional set of mostly black backlit keycaps, but it's not offered as a preinstalled option. They still stick to their "fun" colors for the spacebar and enter keys.
I have a lot of Logitech things, but their keyboards are behind the times.