Digging in the "Valley of Death" - Exhumation of WWII soldiers in the Mjasnoi Bor swamps (Leningrad)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Russian volunteer diggers explore the so called "Valley of Death" battlefield around Mjasnoi Bor, in the Volshov swamps south of St Petersburg, in order to find and exhume the bodies of Soviet and German soldiers killed in battle in 1942. The recovery of several bodies and named personnal items is shown in the video.
"Only the birds sing for these fallen soldiers in the quiet woods, and the wind whispers their names at night...."
A Crocodile Tear Productions documentary.
For more information about battlefield archaeology: battlefieldarch...
Russische Freiwilligen suchen gefallene Soldaten an der Schlachtfeld von Mjasnoi Bor, neben Leningrad und der Wolchow.
Des "creuseurs blancs" russes recherchent les corps de soldats portés disparus près du village de Mjasnoj Bor, région du Volshow, St Petersbourg, en 2014.
Pour plus de détails sur la recherche de soldats portés disparus: findthemia.blog...
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Perhaps you were thinking of this, or not. When you made your camp, lived, ate, laughed, and sang so close (or on top) of the fallen, they were listening to you. The dead can feel life just as you can feel death. When your digger explained how she could tell the difference between roots, metal, and bone, she explained what roots and metal sounded like, but she said bone you feel in your heart. If you ever see elephants come to the remains of an elephant, the pick the bones up, they gently press their feet to the skulls; they are paying their respects to their dead. We do the same when we discover bones, we feel that immediate connection that this was a fellow human being (Russian, German, or a host of other ethnicities). You've done well to bring life into that place of killing. Please keep up the good work.
This is an updated and improved version of my classic video "Valley of Death - exhumation of missing in action WWII soldiers at Mjasnoj Bor"
Thank you!
Hello, my name is Kevin . I have watched all of your videos and I am so interested in participating in one of these exhumations. I am mid sixties and retired, living in Oklahoma USA . Is it possible for me to be able to work with you and your team ? I am self sufficient financially and would donate money and my time for this endeavor. I see this as one of the most important things that we can accomplish! Please advise . Kevin
@@JohnnyCash-uw2dk Hi. Sorry, but I dont organize trips with other people, one of my points is to be in immersion with the locals. With covid and the war in Ukraine, I myself have no longer been to Russia since 2019.
Thank you for your reply ! Hopefully in the future I’ll be able to pursue this thru some other means . I really enjoy and appreciate your work!!!!
@@JohnnyCash-uw2dk When you see videos like this made by the local Russians/Ukranians/Estonians, etc, try reacing out to them and see if it is possible to join them. Be carefull of scams, people asking for money to be able to dig with them, etc.
Its a Shame. This Soldier fought for his Country and gave his Live. And nobody searched for him. Nobody cares. And nobody buried him. He lies at the Place he died. And Mother Nature was the only who covered him.😢
I watched this video and it was such melancholy. It has been like 80 years since the war when it was filmed, and yet we (humans) are still dealing with the aftermath. Sure most people don't even think about it anymore, but the remnants and scars are still there. And wonderful people such as these work to provide at least a final dignity to these boys and men :(
War is awful, so much wasted life for a handful of people's egos.
That is not true. Each fallen soldier had a family that mourned him. Each country tried to recover as many as they could, but there were millions killed often in places like this. These efforts are funded today in Russia and the US and other countries does the same in places like Vietnam.
Thanks for this. I greatly admire the Russian diggers willingness to try and recover human remains from a swamp. It’s hard to imagine more difficult fighting conditions for the Russians and Germans. Absolute hell.
Не руских, советских бойцов
@@АхатМухаметов Да, казах, киргиз, таджик, узбек, туркмен, грузин, эстонец и так далее.
Spanish lost about 4000 Soviet about 14000 in the area in just 3 days of battle not including casualties
My grandmother lost her first cousin somewhere in the wilderness of Croatia, where he fought with the partisans against the Germans. She passed away without ever knowing what happened to him, and she carried a heavy sadness whenever she spoke about him. Every 1st of November, when we mourn the dead, she would take a flower to the family grave, yet she never discovered where he died or where he is buried. As a new generation, it's easier for us to only have the memory of that man. But for the older generation, this must be a lingering pain.
I really enjoy these videos. They are very informative and help me to understand the hardships of the unfortunate souls caught up in the hellfire.
Greetings from Belfast. Bless the young men and women who participate in this very important and demanding work.
The thought of living and fighting in such terrain is beyond belief. What a terrible experience it must have been.😢
it looks very hard for the team to do their job so i try to imagine how many soldiers on both sides trying just to survive whilst being bombed and shot at in those conditions. thank you
very interesting video, it is amazing to know that there is still people trying to recover the soldiers that went missing, my grandfather might be resting somewhere in those swamps. panzergrenadier and schlossergehilfe Alfred Alfons Endler born in Wiatka(russia 1916) and fought for the germans, he received the Iron Cross 2nd class 25/7/1943 and went missing a day later somewhere in the Lunewo/Bolchoff area, my grandmother received some vague info about his dissapearance in the 60's from the german red cross stating he either died in battle or on the way to the soviet gulags(the letter seems more like a template). i still have hope he will be found someday
I have seen those Red Cross letters, they are indeed a template.... but what else could they send when they simply had no info?
The Russians are burning, abandoning, and literally tossing from trucks driving down the road, they're dead - today.
It's a shame to imagine what our ancestors could have suffered marching to the Gulag.
@@AKSnowbat907 that’s an absolute lie
@@AKSnowbat907You can be assured Zelensky is doing the exact same thing having become a dictator & wiping out over 100,000 young men already - now he's drafting the older men. He could not care less about it.
@@kathyflorcruz552forget to take your meds? Probably should learn facts and truth before displaying your ignorance! Zelensky is loved by his people for standing up to a little tyrant and showing the world that Russias perceived military strength and economy are only a facade! The narcissist Putin is exterminating his own people and being made a clown of at the same time! Zelensky is just defending his people and their freedom from a butt hurt dictator who rules over puppets!
Its kind of interesting to hear all the people saying "wow this fighting must have been hell. Never again. "
Do you nor understand there is awful trench to trench fighting going on literally today as you read this in Ukraine? Encourage diplomacy not war.
Exactly. Stop voting for GLOBALIST WARMONGERS.
4:52 - That casual toss of a 70 year old grenade is mind boggling.
pucker factor high
Watch the other video, "The Stalingrad digging camp"
Watch the video The Stalingrad digging camp
This kind of search should have been carried out many years ago by the Soviet authorities, especially for the Red army casualties. Just shows you what Communists think of their war dead, preferring instead to erect memorials glorifying Stalin or their evil ideology.
There are millions still missing, it would take over 300 years, even if they found 10,000 remains per year, no country could accomplish this, especially one decimated after the war.. There are also hundreds of thousands of Germans missing in the battlefield, to attribute the "erecting of Stalin monuments" as a reason they are still lost is not only uneducated, it is childish.
Should look into what happened to the ones that survived but lost limbs or captured or just happened to see the living standard the Germans had making Stalin suss
According to the Russians, this specific battlefield had been ploughed after the war in oder to destroy/damage the bodies and discourage families from coming to find them.
The Germans are missing because the Soviet regime actively destroyed German cemeteries, made no effort to record German dead, and made no effort to bury its own dead in marked graves.
Im not trying to justify Soviets but Eastern front was a different level of Hell by few things: amount of killed on both sides,land area of battles/front itself and terrains like these swamps. But oddly in Yugoslavia was similar with its Partisans...like it was their philosophy.
And i didn't know they were destroying body's...you learn something every day,thanks.
Godspeed, and God bless you in this work, Jean Loup.
Imagine a storyboard where a red solider troop digs in, fights, dies and is buried in his foxhole by artillery debris.
Time moves forward
2024 a Russian digs a hole in the same spot and is killed and buried by artillery debris.
War never changes...
History beneath your feet! Well done Jean-Loup to you and the group. I think it admirable that people go out working to find the dead in those conditions.
It reminds me of the Dead Marshes in Lord of the rings.
Battles like this and the battle of the Somme are probably what inspired the dead marshes honestly.
I am not a fan of Lord of the Rings, but that scene is quite fascinating.
Amazing people. Shows you there are many good Russian people and not full of tyrants. God bless all of you. Thank you for sharing this video. It is very inspiring yet also sad
Tiranos hay en USA.
@@myriamrodriguez7650 This person was making an earnest attempt to humanize others across the world. Leave your ugliness somewhere else.
Great video, I enjoyed the singing. The subject of the video is always a sad one, no matter who's found. That's how it goes.
Don't think you could find any girls here in the US to do this type of work looking for their long lost countrymen.
there are? and the war was never fought in US soil...
@@copicsnizchNo les interesa buscar a sus compatriotas en Europa.
@@copicsnizchthere have been multiple wars fought on American soil. How can you be that brainless? The American revolution, the civil war, the war of 1812, the Mexican American wars, the Indian wars etc…..
Well, considering 99% of WWII wasn’t on US soil. You’re probably right. 🤷🏻♀️
I'm quite sure there HAVE been Americans who wanted to search for the lost. Getting access is another matter.
Es muy interesante el trabajo que realizan, un saludo desde Islas Canarias, España
another very important documentation of world war two´s history. Thank you!
Good video sir I am from Indian
Wow very hit and miss but your doing your best respect
There is a frag sleve that can be used on the RGD-33 I have 3 of them in my collection because the RGD-33 is a 3 cell pouch worm on the belt
That one young woman with the Shup spoke English so well she sounded American.
Her english was good enough but she did not sound American coming from an American.
She sounded more British - I studied Russian at university, and some of our native Russian lecturers had been trained to have particular accents according to where they were going to be deployed (this was in Soviet times), so they had different departments for British, American, Australian, etc. Kazan university was known for its strict English teaching methods, and it seems to have continued.
Sadly, they'll be still doing this in 50 years looking g from troops buried in trenches today.
Yep history is repeating itself unfortunately
From Spain,we remember our fallen of the 250 span.division..the heroical Blau división,who fought in all that área in that years
My Great Uncle was there, part of that Division. Fortunately he returned to Spain.
22:22 or so..I noticed the large power line towers over the area. I can't imagine that whomever excavated & installing those didn't SEE what was buried in the ground all around the area as they clearled land & dug down to put those towers in place. Workers must have been told to ignore the bones & remnants all around them at the time. What a job that must have been to do & try to justify.
Это происходит повсеместно. Дороги, линии электропередач, дачные участки зачастую находятся на местах кровопролитных боёв и снаряды, куски железа и павшие бойцы до сих пор лежат на тех местах, порой и на поверхности. Многим просто нет дела...
Couldn't watch Dune 2 on Vudu cause that platform is utter garbage. Your video was 20 times better than the first 5 minutes.
Amazing video again.
The surname on the knife handle is: “кОПестратов» = «kOPestratov”
I saw that, but the "П" could be a baddly written "л". As I said, this research was not done by me, but I assume if the experienced Russian researchers send the knife back to Kalistratov's family, it was because there were no other possible matches.
I love the Russian music ❤ Cant imagine people living and dying in such a place though. Its beautiful, but also seems miserable at the same time
چرا انسانها از جنگ و تاریخ درس نمیگیرن همین امروز توی مناطقی دگر در جهان در اوکراین در روسیه و در خاور میانه جنگ جریان دارد
Because there's always a government/religion wanting to rule the entire world their way. You should KNOW this.
Just wondering if the water is safe to drink given the WW2 deaths in that area even from the sources shown in the video?
They died almost 80 years ago, I am sure the water is just fine.
My question as well... "water from a big bomb crater" filtered through cloth. Was it treated further? Did you drink it, Jean Loup??
I think for the whole week we only drank water in the form of boiled tea. And yes I had to drink it of course v
If there were no bodies there i still wouldnt frink water from a stagnant bog. 80 year old remains arent the issue here lol
Hi dear sir , have you ever searched the forest of Burma? Japanese troops invaded here and British Indian army faced them , many of soldiers have been declared missing
No, I have never been to the Pacific. I was supposed to go in 2020 and then stupid Covid started.
@@CrocodileTear Stupid Co-Vid? Curious expression coming from a doctor. I would very much like to know your point of view about the pandemic, and what the role of forensic experts like you was during such sad period.
@@CruzSanchezRipa Covid is a form of natural death so I dont have much to say about it.
Incredible thank you
Jean can you put dates on the tapes so we know at which year that was filmed.
Thank you
What do you mean by "tapes"?
@@CrocodileTear The videos that you filmed
It says it at the start of the video. I didnt include it in the title as I dont feel it is relevant to the theme of the video.
Original video was from 2014
@@CrocodileTear Ah now that I checked it again yes that's true sorry Jean but hey you are doing a very good work I hope that the french government compensate you for all your troubles and displacements.
Job security these days going to be a lot of digging in Ukraine
My parents bought a fishing kit from Vietnam with a name on it. I found out it belonged to a soldier who fought and died there. There is a big display for him in Texas? where he was from. I kept telling them that they should send it to his family or the place with the memorial but I don't think they ever did. It made me mad.
Where did they buy that? On Craigslist or a similar site?
@kathyflorcruz552 no, it was actually an antique shop I believe. They frequent places like that.
amazing history tragic but amazing so many hero's
Большое спасибо за ваше видео.
I have a question about the digs: You've found at least several grenades. Are you ever afraid of finding live ammunition? Is that a danger yiu face, or is where you're digging too wet to even allow for that?
We are not afraid if finding live ammunition because we find it all the time. It can be dangerous.
How do they even know where to start looking?
start probin
Эта одно из самых известных мест в копательских кругах. Станция "Мясной Бор". Там была окружена и погибла вторая ударная армия. Кроме того поисковики изучают исторические архивы книги и карты военных действий тех лет.
This looks like so much work, but I am grateful that people are doing this work and that you are sharing it with us. It is truly fascinating and also tragically sad. Thank you.
so many hero's tragic loss for the ussr
Слушая эту песню, я надеюсь, что ко всем солдатам придет мир.
Lorsque vous parlez ,il n y a aucune traduction en francais alors que j ai demandé à RUclips.merci
Il faut un peu fouiller dans les options en bas a droite de l'ecran
Ich wünsche Euch ein friedliches Osterfest 🐣🇷🇺❤️🇩🇪
Would it be an option to find battle marked maps in archives to locate defense locations? Such as trenches and encampments? I assume if so that might help finding more deceasedm
Так и делается.
What do they do with the unexploded munitions?
Nothing as far as I saw.
В России очень сложно договориться с государством по поводу их утилизации. Проще сделать вид, что этого нет. Миллионы боеприпасов раскиданы по лесам до сих пор.
What languages do you speak? It certainly helps you in your investigations to be multilingual. Thank you for the interesting and educational videos.
It seems he speaks at least three with a lot of competency: French, English and German. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he were learning more languages.
You guys do a good work. Are you going off of old WW2 battle maps ? Ord did so much go on there, that those areas are easy to find ?
The siege of Leningrad lasted 2.3 years and cost the lives of almost 2 million, I imagine it isn,t hard to find remains.
In this case I simply followed the Russians.
В большей части российских лесов где была война до сих пор видны сети траншей, укреплений и воронок. За оградой аэропорта Санкт-Петербурга (Пулково) сам видел лежащие с войны снаряды
Can you tell me what song did they sang at 12:34? It sound interesting
I dont know it, but shazam surely can recognize it.
I tried but shazam didn't recognize it @@CrocodileTear
@@alternativeaccount3e I guess you would have to ask a Russian. As you can see, I didnt subtitle it here, because I also didnt manage to recognize it.
Песня называется "Фантом" группа Чиж & Co. Она про события времен войны во Вьетнаме. ruclips.net/video/9XewOH8co2o/видео.html -если хотите послушать...
I’m surprised there weren’t swarms of mosquitoes.
It was April and still cold.
There rest the 2nd Shock Army men , they broke the German line and got surrounded , forbidden to retreat .
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а чего песни не на английском? эх вы.
What about indian soilders,who were fighting on behalf of British? Please reply
What is your question about them? They are under the responsibility of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission. You can see some of their graves in this video in Egypt: ruclips.net/video/9-iqcy1hFXU/видео.html
@@CrocodileTear where were they? Did they got back to country or just like these guys randomly lying here& there? Was they given proper burial according to religion? All these things,as BRITISH were selfish!!
@@BigDaddy97-s5x Look at the video and see. The British take extremely good care of all the commonwealth war graves, regardless of the country of origin.
@@CrocodileTear but to be surprisingly no diggers found nothing of INDIAN soilders thing!!😓.. British made proposal fight with them& will grant independence (a fake proposal)..few dumbass leaders believed it& sent them. atleast Germans, Russian,American get the things of their person but Indians won't,even they didn't get respect like others..today people know about only the few countries.ww2 but what about others they didn't get that respect even people doesn't know!!! Classic hippocracy of British..& CHURCHIL.just propagated& erased out entire scrafice..😓..so they ain't nice..
@@CrocodileTear thanks for sharing the video.
i am assuming by the casual handling that the grenades are deemed to be inert after time?
Ргд-33 почти всегда сгнивает, как и немецкие гранаты и не представляет большой опасности. Граната Ф-1 готова рвануть всегда.
Another fascinating video, sir. The things you find are helping bring closure to families after 80+ years.
I hope they manage to avoid being sent to fight in Putin's war in the Ukraine.
Putin's war.. ibet you think Barbarosa was about communism!
You mean NATOS war on Russian territory don't you? Ukraine is their globalist playground of sheer corruption for the elitists. They've broken EVERY BOUNDARY TREATY with Russia & expanded to top that off - against the treaty. And globalists REFUSED peace talks or negotiations with Putin repeatedly. There are 2 sides to the story. As long as you keep believing the WARMONGERING MSM Zelensky enjoys his new dictatorship & the wasting of billions in taxpayers money thrown his dancing actor WAY. He couldn't care LESS about the Ukrainian people. They're nothing but meat puppets to him having already sent 100s of 1000s of young men to their death in a war THEY CANNOT WIN.
Lots of camping not much digging
I need to find me a good strong Russian girl to marry! In America its hard to find women like this. I know this is the place to talk about women when so many young soldiers died horible deaths and buried where they lay for 80 years, so sad.
This is not the place. Typing on a phone with my sausage fingers.
You can always edit youtube comments, by clicking on the three little dots at the side of the comments.
Hard for the Soviets to search for their dead when they don't even have bread.
Western lies, as you well know. Observe they are eating bread with lunch....
Get rid of Putin i says
Slava Ukraine..
putting a salute used by an all volunteer Ukrainian nazi forces as a comment here speaks volumes about you. i would type antifascist salute from my country but you would report me for threataning you (notsees like you usually being p@ssies and all).
Grave robbers
How is this group grave robbers? Have you seen a single one of the videos showing the effort they put into the identification of a fallen soldier? You can’t call the dirt these soldiers are in a grave. They deserve their names back and to be brought back home, regardless of the side they fought on.
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@@CrocodileTear Thank you for what you do, I can’t imagine the feeling of having a family member found from so long ago. I lost an uncle in Italy (his body was sent home to Massachusetts) and my grandfather made it home alive thankfully. I’ve just started searching into my uncles service and death and it’s really hard work. So thanks again all the way from Massachusetts! lol
Thank you for making the point that both sides (all sides) of WWII treated POWs horribly. There is no excuse and the Allies were just as bad as the Germans. For 80yrs people in the West have been fed propaganda regarding the superiority of the Allies... bunk. The winners write the history. Thank you.
POWs were treated resonably well in the West (including western POWs in Germany), particularly in the US. This is not propaganda, it is fact as recorded by numerous witnesses, and as former POWs told me themselves.
On the other hand the Germans treated Soviet POWs horribly and vice versa.
The saying that the winners right history doesnt make much sence in the WWII context where the Germans have also written their version of evens.
These people in the video all look so nice and friendly, I can't believe that their home country is currently massacring babies, children, women and men in Ukraine...
France, the US, Germany, the UK, Israel... all have done the same some day or even today...
Dont confuse individuals with their country.
And Zelensky is doing the SAME to his subjects.