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Hello, I'm Nicholas Di Lorenzo, Studio Owner, Mixing and Mastering engineer at Panorama Studios.
I'm an Italian-Australian born and raised in Melbourne. I've been a creative professional for 10 years managing some pretty awesome projects for artists, labels and producers all around the globe.
What motivates and drives me?
My family,
Good food,
Great coffee.
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∞ The best in the game. Thank you for making it pop like that! 🙏🔥♾️
My pleasure!
I just clicked on this video and... THAT'S MY AND OODAI's track! WTF!!!!! I literally watch this channel all the time so it's an honor to have a track of mine chosen! Thank you!
A bonkers track! Keep up the great work!
Been falling in love with this channel! This might be a bit off topic, but i watched your tutorial on reverb and was mind blown. I subbed to the newsletter to get to the presets for vintage verb, THANK YOU SO MUCH, cant wait to learn more from you :)
Awesome, thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
That Michelangelo compression move blew my mind! I often use MB compressors to get the low end moving nice, but I've never seen such a huge change with such a tiny amount of gain reduction. My jaw dropped when you did that, it made the low end actually sound like separate notes, rather than a continuous pumping drone like sub all with 1db GR. I assume it's just a result of how the track was mixed, dictating it only needed that much, but for you to get such a huge difference from so little is wild to me haha.
Yeah it's an awesome tool!
Thanks for another great video. You’ve become my favorite channel in my endless search for more knowledge about what I’m so passionate about. Your technical skills are brilliant and you definitely have Golden Ears. Thanks again!
Best wishes - Tim
Wow, thank you!
I don't know if it's the RUclips compression or if this is some snake oil but I could only hear one or two of those "before and afters" in headphones. Maybe add some kind of a red light green light indicator graphic to the video so we can tell exactly when the switch is occurring. You could also select a more exact looped section to feature a more focused example for each technique. I feel like for most of this video I was just way too into the track to be able to hear the tiny stuff. This is a killer mix for this genre!
∞ Greatly appreciated. Thank you so much! 🙏♾️
Amazing videos they are helping me so much. I'm in Frankston awesome to see such a talented local. Thanks for the great work I really appreciate it
Thanks man! Appreciate the support!
I love this man 💙 damn the techniques
Thanks man!
actually addicted to your videos! there is so much misinformation out there. your explanations are some of the most concise unbloated and trustworthy I've heard. I'm now doing so much more with so much less in my mixes and masters within a week of finding this channel. Thanks for saving me many headaches :)
my pleasure! Thanks for watching;
It's good for Engineers to talk about .1-.5 decibel movements, where locations they would do it, like a sub attenuation, or an air adjustment, or anything in Mid, or a harsh removal adjustment. This is what gets things (elements in the audio signals/stems) go from weaker (but potentially open) to fuller (stronger or more driven, or more consistent), or from muddier to clearer (removing annoying things), lack of bass to having bass (missing the sub air or bass harmonics), even Saturation or harmonic movements, driving into the Mastering or glue compressors, etc. This is the stuff that people should talk about the most especially on these RUclips discussions. I think Panorama is touching upon a whole bunch of this, so to confirm your original comment, gabe walden.
What else are we discussing? About these incremental eq boosts, that should have people's favorites or preferred 'push pull' or 'fine tuning' moves. Maybe an Air boost or bell boost anywhere from 12 khz all the way to 30-40 khz (or even a shelf starting lower), some people are favorite locations. Often talked about is the 1k-2k cut, gets a bunch of the Nasal out if there is nasalness or tinny-ness in the mix/master.
Or extending the sub-bass for fullness or warmth obvious reasons, 20 hz-100 hz, people have favorites, but yeah as the video discusses, it's the .1 to .5 movements for the Engineers, push and pull, compensate, attenuation, Pultec, notching, w/e. Even moving the Q knob or the width on Mastering EQs, to re-adjust the spectrum. Or even the .1-.5 db input drive, or trim, trimming can free up headroom, gainstage. This is what people should be talking about (well gainstaging into harmonics and plugins is heavily discussed in last few years). Heck all this stuff not only affects the excitement of the source signals and instruments, sound, but even the reverb and air around gets impacted too by fine movements, and input-saturation-harmonic manipulation, console or tubes etc, it effects the reverb air around the vocal or a 'Band' too, the whole liveliness of it. Think... 'Cigarettes after Sex' all that plate reverb, this is what engineers are controlling the excitement and beauty of, the whole front to back spacial-ness, how high it goes in terms of the vertical, all these increments, even a 'mastering highpass' or notching, or even in glue compression, it effects all this and controls and it can all be very very delicate, fine-tuning equalizer usage.
@@gossipboynyc9625-VN haha I like your little essay, totally agree. really focusing on subtle moves with intention can get you a long way!
🔥🔥🔥 sounds great
"You can't use that many plugins on your master". Well...I usually use like 10-14 plugins on my masters and my clients love the outcome. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what you use, it's how you use it!
It's good to quizz people on where frequency, you do .1, .2, .3 or .5 movement or boost for the Hifi subtle move sounds, definitely that is the Engineers level of discussion. .1 movement at 360-600 hz, or and Air .1-.5 movement, Push pull, compensate, free up headroom. Driving the input stage a db more or so into whatever the processors are, changing the character of the stereo image and depth. These are surely the questions Communities and Professionals, Students, or aspiring Engineers would bounce amongst another.
Fiar enough! Thanks for sharing!
i was with you until the Maximizer. the "grit" just sounds like distortion to me, and it's harsh on the top end (it could be painful on a club system). i've learned you have to be careful with that Maximizer. The upward compression can introduce distortion if there's a lot of low end in the track. also, the various IRC flavors can make a big difference in terms of distortion. i think i've only added transient emphasis once. although probably not applicable to this track, i often de-link the transients/sustain to 100% because it opens up the mix (generally i'm working on more mellow and/or acoustic material with a fair amount of variation between L and R). i really appreciate you & this channel, i've learned a lot. cheers
It's good to see I'm not alone in barely having to push the threshold on my limiter when I utilize similar tools before it. My personal touch is to always use the low version of soft clip on ozone 10/11 maximizer at 100%, it just works better than cranking the threshold.
Nice; I find the introduction of harmonics from soft clip can start to make the low end flatten out; which is GOOD if that's the effect I want; otherwise I avoid it in lie of vin-lim
@@panorama_mastering By flatten out, do you mean reducing it relative to the other frequencies?
Thank again :) Best/Mathias
Excellent video, as always. I learn so much, THANKS A MILLION! Side note for those who don't speak Spanish and don't understand the lyrics: me either. And Spanish is my mother tongue 😂😂
∞ I am not, that’s probably why 😅 It’s mixed with some French too 🤗 Definitely gotta know the lingo of my brand to understand all the lyrics for some of my tracks, and this is definitely one of those. 😅
Thank you for your feedback!
Michelangelo trick was cool also didn't know that about the God particle. Going to experiment with it
Yeap! The GP trick is a nice one!
Lets goo Nick! Your my number one source for obsessive learning and testing. 🔥
Quick one:
My mixes tend to make use of trackspacer, dynamic eq, or soothe on the instruments bus, to 'carve out' space for the lead vocal, keeping the music musical, apposed to static eq.
As the NoLeadVox mix is for live performances, should I TURN OFF this processing before I print (i.e. remove the trackspacer, so the instruments are no longer being ducked by the vocal sidechain trigger. Of course BGVs and ad-libs will still be present, but not the lead.
I'm not familiar with live engineering, so let's just say you only have access to the stereo NoLeadVox mix, would the live engineer run the plugs in order to create the pocket needed for the vocals to sit in (e.g. soothe live, etc), or do you normally receive the instrumental with 'vox carve' burned in?
In other words, should the NoLeadVoc mix be able to be summed together with the STUDIO lead vocal recording, or left as is?
Thanks a lot in advance, really appreciate it!
really nice effect with the clarity module!
Here's something that might be useful, I've noticed through the delta signal that having 1%-2% on the Stereo Independance (maximizer) gives you movment in the left and right, but you still get a lot of bang for your buck on the mid channel when reaching for those loud masters. Cheers!
Yeap! Spot on!
Need to be very careful with the clarity module; sometimes it can do more harm than good and do the opposite; instead of balancing the mid-range of the vocals it can pocket other elements out and compromise the balance.
Yeah any clarity models like the Slate digital Fresh air, just a few like 3-10 (not db, it's the percentage number) or something, or increment, this can do a lot of stuff, any air algorhythms, or maybe even the high shelf on the Avalon 737. Even changing a Compressor Bias, or turning from Hard knee to Soft knee can make your whole sound Round, vs a hard knee or hard clip sound which can be pretty loud especially on overheads or drums. There's so many Air bands available today and I even was able to find a few 30-40 hz ones. PQ (SPL) has an air band going 24 khz, same with AO Fiver EQ, has a 25 khz, Maxbax a 40 khhz, not really always necessary but it's very adjustable for clarity management, which changes the whole sound of Overheads, the vocal, whatever. Some other famous ones are probably the API (super punchy and fronty, very exciting) or Neve (smoother musical live band type console sound that has front-back depth, not as 'fronty' so probably less harsh) high shelf gaining, Avalon 737 high shelf for vocal? There's tons of Air enhancement modules out there today, sometimes you need to Low pass down for Vinyl-ish attenuation sound for the warm tube direction of sound and printing. (and for sure check for the 'potential' phasings)
Obviously, a lot of do-it-yourself mixers like Cover artists or self-mixing publishers, creators may not be doing this, you can still get a great sound even with basic 6-8-12 khz shelves, and using Mackie or Yamaha speakers, no need always for Air fine tuning, only for the engineers - but I would see that engineers are absolute obsessed about Air adjustments and clarity bands, and then Sub frequency harmonic generators, like 20-40 hz ish, or maybe even higher. There's definitely very obsessive professionals out there about these regions, especially when it comes to Bass Mono'ing, mastering Reverbs, Multi-band stereo imaging adjustment and more. Even more so when it coms to Harmonic and saturation control, transient addition or subtraction / blurring - mastering reverb addition or subtraction. (some like the drier sound, some like Live and wet, dynamic band or orchestra material) Often times, Karaoke type instrumentals, it needs that bit of wetness to sound more real, Karaoke has suffered form this before but I've heard it get better, especially in Asian music, Asian Kdrama Vdrama or OST style instrumentals, etc. American and Australian music? I have no idea there, the Karaoke beats have always been somewhat stale even going into the 80's 90's, but the Disney stuff is kind of dynamic since there's usually tons of real Orchestra. (The topic quite derailed here, understood - but it was a fun ramble)
U da man
such bs when people nag around about using whatever too much or too little instead of just discussing the actual sound. love it when the engineer (is conscious about that and) just uses whatever tf they think it needs to just make it sound the best :) it's pretty much the perfect metaphor for life.
Thanks for the video!! May I ask what is the math to get no distortion on compressor based on foundamental frequency? It is here and there in your video but it seems the math is changing? Very much appreciated ✨🙏
I just had a thought about how you are using ddmf to route a M/S matrix. Did you know you can use waves S1 to encode into and then another version to decode out of M/S into L/R?
A while ago I was on the verge of buying a hardware diy kit for M/S encoding/decoding with a stereo width enhancer. I was litteraly in paypal about to finalise the payment when it suddenly hit me it can be done in waves S1 with the input mode switch (and little buttons below the switch for diferant M/S permutations in all but the s1 matrix version of S1)!
I'd always known that, but somehow it had slipped my mind when I actually started to want to use M/S processing on my mixbuss on occasion.
Kclip 3 is actually very nice for transparent hard clipping.Cheers.
Yup tons of good clippers out there K Clip, G Clip, Venn audio has a clipper too, the SIR standard clip, the Gold clip and there's a few Russian clippers out there as well I think.
Is changing from INT to EXT on the God Particle not equivalent to bypassing the Multiband Compression except having the MB Artifacts (and maybe MB harmonics)? 🙂
heyyy, which video do you talk about the metaplugin hornet harmonics setup in more detaill? It sounndss wild
is it just me or why does it feel like it's super hard to actually hear the differences? I know they're subtle, but I really gotta focus to actually notice something (listened to this with 2nd gen AirPods)
I've been producing for 11 years and I found it pretty hard to hear. every change he made was very subtle
I completely understand your work to make this thing admissible. but this remains impossible. That said, I appreciate your musical and subtle way of mastering without distorting (the work) of this...thing.
∞ 😂😂😂 I love the fact you refer to this song as “this thing”.
Thank you for your feedback!
@ I hope I haven't disrespected you. but I don't like this musical genre at all. It's just my taste. This doesn't take anything away from your work, and I sincerely hope for a great and long musical career for you. let's have fun !
@@DanielGuillaud ∞ Not at all!! I genuinely appreciate your feedback, regardless of if you’ve liked the song or not. I still found your comment funny when I read it 😅 it’s part of the game and I’m grateful for my music reaching people.
Especially on a track like that, I know the genre can quickly be divisive.
Thank you so much for your wishes, wishing you all the best and a lot of music & sounds!
@ bon esprit . All the best 4u !
@@DanielGuillaud ∞ Merci à toi aussi!!
How often are you using analog nowadays? If you werent a youtuber how often would you be using it?
I RARELY show analog use cases on the channel; because the routing is a bitch to manage; and I rather not change agreggate drivers for the sake of recording a video;
I use analog chains on about 50% of sessions; split right down the middle;
amazing channel. You get an amazing sound and have a LOT of knowledge. But yeah, I feel there's a bit of overprocessing going on here..
Fair enough!
When we going to get the MetaPlugin vid? Unless it exists already
It exists! ~ ruclips.net/video/VhwCemsObNg/видео.html
There you go!
Why META PLUGIN !?.. Why not DYNONE ONE !?
2:54 do you again get wrong standard clip? you said about hard clipping bu you doing soft curve😢
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∞ Infinityyyyy!!
just for the track haters...I liked the track... :)
Thanks man!
∞ Thank you so much ! 👾🙏
What has music come to..! I so don’t understand this
∞ Haha I know right? Thank you for your comment! 🙏
You are a great teacher but this music chosen is atrocious. It makes me imagine the personality of the character spitting that nonsense all too viscerally. But I still clicked like due to your craft. But no amount of craft can make this track sound enjoyable in any way simply due to how annoying it is. I recommend checking out the group Crosses.
∞ I’m actually a pretty nice guy, and there’s nothing mean, violent or drug related in the lyrics of this song. But I get this genre is definitely not for everyone. 🤷🏻♂️
I have much smoother and different tracks coming up, hopefully my character will seem better to you on the next ones. 😅
Thank you for your feedback!
Much love.
sorry but the track choice is disgusting , can't spent more than 10 sec listening that
For real it's distractingly bad enough I couldn't finish watching the video
surely this channel needs more non electronic music.
∞ Hahah thank you! A song like that is not meant to be pretty 🤷🏻♂️
As an engineer though I can’t really think of a genre I couldn’t listen to for more than 10 seconds, regardless of my personal taste.
I’d advise to try to open up more to genres on the other end of the spectrum of what you’re used to listen to and enjoy.
Thank you for your feedback! 🤗
Much love 👾
I hate that kind of NOT music! I cant express the amount of disgust.
∞ I love this. Thank you! 🙏
Dude pick a track that almost everyone can listen to and not get annoyed. Music's usually a matter of taste, but this track is just objectively garbage
∞ if it’s a matter of taste how can your statement be objective? It’s just a genre you’re not rocking with. 🤷🏻♂️
& I don’t think he should pick tracks to get as many people as possible to enjoy listening to, that’s not what his content is about. It’s case specific and he judged this one interesting mixing and mastering wise.
I personally find it more relatable and applicable than picking all time classics or huge productions.
Thank you for your feedback though!
Much love 🙏
@ The contradiction was to emphasize my distaste lol
@@TheMrVogue ∞ Hahah it’s all love man ♾️
@ yeah I'm being a drama queen, it's mainly I was expecting edm and it wasn't edm. Track's well produced I just don't like the style
@@TheMrVogue ∞ No worries man! To each his own, that’s the beauty of music. I don’t make EDM but I have tracks with much more EDM influences than this. This one was actually my first time getting on a Jersey beat. Also have more club songs coming up, don’t know if that will be EDM enough for you but check me out you might find something you like! ♾️ @OodaïSound
Infinity is the limit!!