DT 20 Micro Compact Pistol | Del-Ton | Shot Show 2024
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Brad and Andrew check out the new Del-Ton DT20 pistol. This innovative weapon utilizes an innovative fire control design that makes the slide the serialized portion of the pistol.
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Nice to see some actual innovation at SHOT this year.
While the ATF needs to be disbanded and their leadership tried for crimes against Americans, this design is very intersting.
I'll be looking to see more about it.
I concur.
Who would have thought DelTon would have come up with this? Solid ARs. Really like my DelTon ARs.
Del ton rocks!!!!! They already provided me with a beautiful rifle at a kick ass price!!!! I love you guys!! Keep up the great work!!!!
Seems like a outside the box design.
I wish companies would send engineers and technicians to trade shows instead of the drugged out salespeople and booth babes they typically send.
Downside is that you can’t buy any slides w/o going through a dealer. Idk if that’s a good thing or smart.
But you can buy a new grip frame.
I think people want to change frames more often than slides
I love seeing innovation, very cool of them to rethink the design of the typical pistol.
Hell yea, using a firing pin safety as the sear, what could go wrong.
Pretty interesting, I'd love to try one.
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Interested ! Something new ! I like del ton !!
you can tell you are trying very hard to say the trigger sucks, with out saying the trigger sucks, good job lol
Expected it to be better and less than 7lbs considering the design.
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Hmm.. their patent must be on the striker interface because the trigger concept is 90 yrs old. (Hi-power)
That was my first thought
It's an interesting trigger mechanism, but I'm guessing it's not 100% drop safe. If the gun is dropped upside down, the sear would likely release the striker as nothing except some spring force prevents it from pushing in, unlike other trigger mechanisms.
Sounds like the Sig P320 problem.
It's difficult to add innovative new features to the 9mm striker fired polymer pistol at this point, but Del-Ton did. I eagerly await some independent reviews of the DT20. I'm particularly interested in how it stacks up against the Sig P365, as well as durability and reliability testing, but at least from the specs and materials, this looks like a great new micro compact that might be my new choice for back pocket carry.
Different for market full of glock clones
The Browning Hi Power trigger works similarly, thought in a hammer config. Why is that slide not considered the firearm?
I think you answered your own question. It's the hammer on the frame that detonates the round, not a pre- cocked striker on the slide. Therefore the frame has to be the serialized component. I believe there is something in the by-laws that states if a firearm is hammer fired, the frame will always be considered the firearm.
@@anon_79 that makes sense, thanks
All we need now is an Honest Outlaw review.
Yo did homie really say "'you won't have to wait around for someone to make a Diamondback specific sight" !? What the hell is he referring to? Did he used to work at Diamondback and forgot it's Delton now? 🤣 If these don't sell for $350 or less they'll take a big hit, there's way better options out there for the monies. Market saturation.
Wrong
@@DinoNucciloved the part where you explained how it’s wrong
1. It's not a fricken Glock.
2. It doesn't take Glock mags. 😂😂😂
@@steven3379those aren’t always bad things.
What caliber? Did I miss it?
i wonder if its similar size to the sig p365 or smaller?
FCU is a better system, grip/frames and slides can be purchased without going through an FFL.
It's 2024 and people are still launching new pistols without optics cuts. C'mon, man.
That’s for 2025 shot show thinking ahead lol 😂
@pdbnc DelTon is an AR company and this is their first pistol with its own design. If it sells then they will most likely have optic slide versions later.
Not everyone relies on Chinesium electronics for personal protection.
Been waiting to see what the full gun looks like seen the grip a few times at work.
Wonder how drop safe it will be? And wonder how easy it'll be able to turn into a giggle gun?
@mottomanic Since the sear acts as the firing pin block, the firing pin is blocked until the trigger is pulled so yes its drop safe.
I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps putting in a very light sear spring and seizing the trigger plunger somehow could cause such an event. Someone should check into that after released for....safety concerns.
@@anon_79 It would not be released if it was not safe. Manufacturers are responsible for any defects in their products by law. If an unforeseen defect is later discovered in the design or manufacture after release then they will put out a recall.
Optic cut? If it doesn't come with one, I'd really not want to have to go through a dealer just for a slide at a later date.
Anyone remember last year when RIA unveiled the amazing, new, wonderful, super cool new thing RIA 5.0?
Yeah was gonna be super cheap and a game changer.
When it finally dropped (if it ever did drop) it ended up being 3x what they said it was gonna be, and literally nobody bought one.
This kinda has that same vibe.
They did drop, it was 1.5x the price, but it had some ergo issues. Immediately after, they announced the 5.0+ (or maybe it was called the 5.1, I lost interest TBH) that they claim fixed the problems with the 5.0... I'm pretty sure that's where they are now, and yeah, the whole thing seems dead in the water.
I’m pretty sure the reason all the action parts are in the frame is so they don’t get a violent hit.
I wonder how many rounds before you get a failure.
I hope I am wrong.
So is it drop safe?
If the striker block works like I think it does. Seems like with a hard enough slam it would override the spring and fire?
What are the dimensions, though?
“Hey Party People”
Belongs to Tactical Toolbox….
Correct
He owns nothing including his own stupidity.
doesn't the Laugo Alien do something very similar to this?
2nd quarter 2024 came & went, where are these?
🤔 so they turned the fire pin safety in to a sear
Like to see the dt-20 aft approval letter
I see no reason the ATF would have any issue with it, they say the firearm is the part that houses the fire control group, which in this case is the slide
@@bower31 just like to see approval letter for legal matters we all know how the atf works
No like the atf never went back on there own words 😂
@@Freedomishere-im6ug I'm fairly sure you can't sell any firearm in the US as a manufacturer without ATF approval first
@@bower31 pistol brace were sold without approval how many manufacturers sold pistols with unapproved brace
Like I say like to see approval letter
@@Freedomishere-im6ug Pistol braces aren't firearms and weren't in contention until the ATF took interest. Even if they banned pistol braces on AR pistols, you could still own one just not installed.
Cut for dot?
Weight?
Lol 499 ... 299 maybe I'd look ...theres way to many good guns that are way less already unfortunately , think I paid less for my Number r7 5mags
Can buy 2 g2c for $499 😂 and some ammo
So sell for 3 to 350. Not sure it's good enough.
To be fair, MSRP of $499 means actual price of $380-$430. Still wouldn’t do it for $380, but more reasonable given it is more innovative than most polymer striker fired pistols. Also, it isn’t the $770 MSRP of the new Diamondback snub nose .357. That was ridiculous. That’s more than a Kimber K6s or a Smith; right around Colt pricing.
@@wheelguns4wheelmen802 I agree. Would love to see the atf approval paper for the serialize side
(Tom Hanks from the movie big) voice "I don't get it "
The design has me curious.
Wish he'd drop that love you nonsense.
no advantage to having the whole upper to be the "firearm" part...the feds might like it but who cares
@granitejeepc3651 I think the idea is that you can swap any frame without a FCU Fire Control Unit.
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Not interested today. Seems like an aft dream, slides be hard to homebuild. All the trigger action of a bullpup without the bar. Reasons? Ah we could.
Actually interesting
your not getting one
@@charlesjames5477 correct
Ok I will say it since no one else has yet….nice P365….
No FCU. The slide is the serialized part. The idea is that you can swap any frame without a FCU Fire Control Unit.
This has recall written all over it ...wow .. Lol..I said this first as guys
@sleigh4019 Why? Since the sear acts as the firing pin block, the firing pin is blocked until the trigger is pulled so yes its drop safe.
I'm wondering what product he uses for his beard, does he use a straight iron for beards?
Hope they’re better than their AR’s
@dmaxm2498 My DelTon ARs run just fine thank you.
Proprietary mags, pass
Almost everyone has proprietary mags. This one has a mag that enables it to hold more rounds, why would you want a Glock or SIG mag that holds less? Silly. Just go buy a single stack 1911, almost all brands use the same mag.
It is too clean. She may not be aware of it being fake, but I don't think this was the whole picture. They seldom slip up like this. Not buying it, fully. Something smells off.
I’ve been a DelTon fan for years. Pllllllease get with Alien Gear and make a holster! I will buy your gun if they make a shell for it I promise
Is that drop safe??? Jk 😂
Since the sear acts as the firing pin block, the firing pin is blocked until the trigger is pulled so yes its drop safe.
Just kidding
@@melmatrix1669 I would like to see how they stop trigger momentum if the pistol is dropped though. I know that the trigger is disconnected from the sear/firing pin block without a trigger bar and it can't go off so maybe that is why. Not enough force when dropped for trigger momentum to fully pull the trigger. I would say this acts more like a bolt rifle trigger system than any other trigger system.