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8:15 Actually No, cloning isn't like normal reproducing. The cell core will carrying all the same data along side all the ageing with it. It's a technical issue the modern science still can't over come. The problem with this plot is that the ageing won't be showing up so late.
You know, the Big Boss reveal at the end is dumb as hell. But . . . the last line delivered by that character does make me tear up a little. That's Kojima for you; he's both amazing and awful all at the same time
When I was in senior high school our art teacher said we were supposed to pick a famous real person and draw a portrait with charcoal I chose Old Snake, got an A- and I used to be a C- student in that teacher's class Thank you Snake
MGS4 is definitely one of the best cases I can think of where the heart and experience of the piece outweighs anything it can actually deliver in terms of a complete story or individual story moments. If you've been along for the ride from the beginning, there's really nothing quite like the final fistfight's multiple "phases", and I love that the game is so willing to leverage gaming's unique aspects as a medium - namely that they're *interactive* in a way other media just isn't - and just be completely unashamed in the corniness of it. Like the microwave hallway and how it exhausts the player through button mashing as well. At that point even the game itself is practically becoming that way overeager weeaboo fanboy friend you have that's nudging you with an elbow and an ear-to-ear grin and making you admit that yeah, this is corny as fuck, but sometimes it's okay to just accept that. So much of the game seems like they held a meeting and asked, "so, is this too melodramatic? Does this go over the line from serious into ridiculous? No? Then turn that shit up, then go a step further." And I'm all over that shit.
8:15 Actually No, cloning isn't like normal reproducing. The cell core will carrying all the same data along side all the ageing with it. It's a technical issue the modern science still can't over come. The problem with this plot is that the ageing won't be showing up so late.
@@michaelkitchin9665 nope, thats stupid and fake news. Ever since Canada cloned a cow in 2001 canada hasnt had to import meat. Britian should figure that out. But they're to busy drinking tea, and fisting themselves.
You’re forgetting the most important aspect of the PS3 aesthetic. It’s B R O W N. Nier and Resonance of Fate fits the PS3 aesthetic pretty well. On that note I should like, continue playing Nier (as well as yakiwami) instead of playing Ace 7 lol. I enjoy it when you talk about specific things like this. Like anything really specific like a genre or gamefeel thing not many people really talk about, but makes you go "oh ikr, that thing yeeeah". People are already nostalgic for PS1 graphics, so I wonder how this stuff will be remembered fondly.
Your voice and execution of script/aesthetic are like literal prozac to me. But on another note you deserve waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more everything for your music and videos. Currently bumpin the Architecture album at work, shits like liquid epic drippin in my ears
8:20 that's actually why Sheep Dolly aged faster, because your DNA gets "older" and if they make a clone out of you, your clone will be born with older genes. It's not the same when half the generic code for each of your parents. Great video, by the way, as always you create the most entertaining vidyagaem revoos
you beat me to saying that. Its because how cloning works is they put a part of the males DNA, raw DNA not sperm, into a egg in the female's ovaries. That DNA is carrying the exact information, including age, of the male and creates a child. So the birth of the child has DNA that's the same age as the male that they clone from.
I have to go to sleep, it's 3am where I live, but I want to say that you're the golden standard for game review/retrospectives/general hoo-haa, and your stylings honestly deserve their own video analysis for how efficiently they balance humour and information without appearing overly zany.
8:10 Actually, yes, as far as I know, it kind of is how it works. DNA has so-called telomeres, which get shorter and shorter each time a cell divides, and when they get too short, cell can't divide any more, so it's basically a DNA-encoded age of the cell. There are several ways to clone things. The first one that was found and used, which was used to clone the sheep Dolly, for example, was a method which inherits the current length of telomeres of the source cell, so yes, it transfers its current age to the newly created embryo, meaning you get a baby with cells of an age of the source adult, and thus lifespan shortened to whatever time the source organism had left at the time of cloning. Normal sexual reproduction doesn't inherit telomere length, though, in normal sexual reproduction, they get re-built to their full starting length. I'm not entirely sure if since then, there's been new/other methods of cloning developed, which don't inherit telomere length (and thus cell-age of the source organism). I think there were, but I'm not sure.
DRUNK COMMENTS, DON'T HELD THEM AGAINST ME, I AM INNOCENT 1- I need a Tomozaku Fukushima to help me with my writing cause I hate setting justification, I just like writing funny banter and SODOMY. 2- 7:20 Maybe his snake is flaccid but dat ass, oh, dat ass brings my gerontophilia to the surface. And then you follow that up with "Life is Beautiful", the best song ever written after Snake Eater. 3- 14:00 This is one of the most memorable levels, even if I rememner it because of cool aesthetics and how boring it was. 4- 18:00 It's inteesting that you get into the cinematography. 5- 22:23 Eva looks like the best gilf. She's 80! More gerontophilia! 6- 23:42 Good one. 7- 28:00 Devin didn't suck, I'll give Kojima that. 8- 30:00 You are a genious of poop. This fragament of Johnny should be canned with Piero Manzoni's art. 9- 35:00 I liked all your deep thoughts around characters but we are finally at that point where we have to stare at Snake's old ass. We should punch him forward through Mapplethorpe fisting. It would work. 10- 36:36 This is the moment where I hated this game with a passion.The original idea was for Snake and Otacon to be executed on Joan Baez's "Here's to you". But the team convinced Kojima for this shit. 11- 40:00 Fuck Konami for not letting you show the stuff, thank you so much for analyzing the shitty iPhone port, the multiplayer and the arcade I knew nothing about. You're in the top of your game here. 12- I declare this is the most complete and funniest video essay on this fucking turd of a game. ThorHighHeels is the best game reviewer in RUclips. Fat better than me. 13- F U C K K O N A M I
I personally love Mgs4. The gameplay and the cutscenes are so great and almost unmatched even years later. Yeah the story is dumb but also full of emotional moments.
i'm so glad i found your channel, been watching a lot of your vids and i love ur honest optimism and really deep factual analysis lol i want a dissertation on ps3 aesthetic bc ive never heard anyone talk about it but its so true
Heh, I knew exactly what you were talking about when you mentioned that E3 director's chair trailer; it was part of the MGS3 Substance Secret Theater, if I remember correctly. Also, great review; I never noticed the theater aspect of MGS4 until now, but it did help me appreciate the game a bit more than I have, before, especially regarding the background activity. It was nice to see this alternate yet also interesting perspective after seeing Steak Bentley's also-great review of this.
When you said that "thats not how that works" in regards to Snake's accelerated aging, that actually is how it works. When you clone something the clone's DNA starts at the same "age" as the original. Whenever DNA replicates the ends, telomeres, wear away a little bit. Over time thats what leads to aging. When you clone someone you don't get the option to repair that damage. You can of course restore the telomeres, but any damage caused by aging can't be undone.
I love the story of MGS for the emotions more than the logic, it's one of the very few pieces of fiction where I don't give a flying fuck how dumb it gets, because it's a series that at that point deserves it, and it's just so cinematic and beautiful (Only Kingdom Hearts manages to be as stupid and beautiful at the same time in games). I even enjoy the Big Boss reveal at the end, yes it's kinda' dumb, but I like some of the things being said, and it's a nice closing scene between the two that managed to get me a bit emotional, as both were characters that I loved and seeing them together was great. The only thing I legitimately dislike is the cast of 3 being the Patriots, as I didn't even remember that shit to be honest, it's dumb, inconsequential and isn't in character.
7:28 She wasn’t “barely a thing” Olga was a major player and a key to the S3 plan succeeding, and the only reason she went through with the Patriot’s plans was because they held her daughter hostage. And I’ve never heard such disingenuous criticism before “i guess we’re going off of the Digital Graphic Novel now” No. Olga herself is given more screentime but Sunny doesn’t have an inch of screentime or even more importance than in the game, the only addition was having Snake conclude Olga’s plotline by saying he’ll take care of her kid.
I'm just amazed by lenght of the video, great job! Mgs4 was the first metal gear that i played, its funny because it turned into one of my favorites games of all time( and talking about gameplay, its the best experience of all mg games, beside the fact that i just love the phisics when a bomb explodes around you, and makes snake fly away hahaha), its just nice to see somebody praising the things that should be praised in this game, the justice that it deserved. Never bothered me the fact that the game has hours of cutscenes, to be precise i always enjoyed them, i think it is the price to not screw up the gameplay. Take the modern games like uncharted etc, they trade gameplay freedom to delivery a movie like experience, i consider it bad, game should work as games, like mgs 4 does, the game is able to divide narrative from gameplay, so you can have the best from both worlds
I know how zero and big boss got there.......they took a yellow cab and big boss struggled to wheel zero up the stairs of the grave yard for 30 mins,zero fell out of the wheel chair twice and thats cannon.
Your channel has become my actual favorite, i used to watch the same youtubers but you are simply the best one i've seen, keep the good work! and you should make a discord group btw
@@thorhighheels it's okay tho! you could have the comunity talking there and be active when you can nwn only if you want of course, keep the good content
Seriously though, MGS4 has to be one of the best games ever made. It’s a fan’s game no doubt but the way it presents itself is something no other piece of media will ever a hive. MGS4 is a masterpiece and will always stay in my collection 😭
Yeah I can feel that PS3 aesthetic to. Tomb Raider and Last of Us felt a little like that also. It might be early for some but we can say we likes it before it was cool. Hey! I saw that PS3 prototype controller floating.
@@ytfisthisathing Besides the meme of PS4'S third-person over-the-shoulder cinematic action games, the most notable design element of this generation is probably that ultra-minimalist and clinical sans serif UI used in every game.
@@ytfisthisathing Yeah, it's weird that it took four generations of 3D consoles to perfect dual-analog camera and movement. Some PS3 games are like playing as a drunk person.
Simulation Theory is legit mindblowing though! With one assumption - that eventually computers will be able to simulate a person's entire experience - the odds are extremely overwhelming that I am already living in a simulation and nobody else I experience really exists. Hell, even just accepting that premise without going further takes the odds from 0% to 50%, but once you figure a computer can simulate an entire person's existence for them, well, what business only has one computer...
Given that he kept wanting each game to be the last, I'm convinced that Kojima was trying to kill off his series in the grandest fashion while fucking with as many people as possible along the way, thinking the only way to save his art was to destroy it, and that was why the series got so stupid. He must've gotten sick of people wanting even more.
Fun Fact : MGS4's original ending was ment to have Snake and Otacon be executed for Warcrimes. But people in the office felt it was too unoriginal and dark, so Kojima had to change it. Concept art still remains of Snake being escorted by guards down a hallway.
Because these are RUclips comments, and because this video is several years old, I will pick exactly one thing to nitpick. To explain how BB manages to wheel a vegetable unbeknownst to Solid straight up behind him in the cemetery, I offer this extremely well thought out conclusion: He's Big fucking Boss, dude could have infiltrated Solid's rectum with Arsenal Gear.
*WARNING: NOVEL AHEAD* Okay, finally finished the video and I gotta say congratulations for pushing out this monster of a video and dodging the Konami SS. Not gonna lie, I was never the biggest fan of MGS4. I respect all the effort that was put into it, and in terms of graphics and gameplay , it really holds up (not that the PS3 has aged that poorly though). I guess I draw issue with the fact that it (at least feels to me) like a game spawned to give answers to people who hated MGS2. I'm sure a lot of love went into the game, but I just get that feeling from it. That being said, while I dislike the answers given, I do think game serves as a great emotional conclusion to the franchise. I first played these games back to back during the summer of 2013, just before high school started and I grew to love each and everyone of the characters, so seeing most of them go on with their lives really made me happy in a bittersweet kinda way. I won't even lie when I say that seeing Snake rapidly age, and knowing that he was going to die soon (whether it be in game or not) after getting to know him through the course of the series actually really made me sad. The whole game was pretty melancholic in that regard, even though he gets a semi-happy ending. I never got to play MGS Online on either game, and it really sucks that Konami is so prone to just vaporize entire parts of it's history for whatever reason (or just let it gather dust like SH4). Kinda reminds me of Demon's Souls servers being shut down, and being brought back by the fans. Only that in Demon's Souls' case, all's you have to do is change your PS3's DNS, not mod the console. Anyways, fantastic video and thanks again for the shout out at the beginning!
When you started talking about the PS3 aesthetic I started yelling "THATS FUCKING IT". Maybe a few more years until more people understand what makes that type of aesthetic.
Snake shot himself. Dark "war is hell and snake died for your sins ending. The end. This is the one thing I'm stubborn about despite that "back to 0" shit directly in my face.
Haha this video and MGS4 in general highlight what a rollercoaster ride a Kojima Productions game is. So many moments that feel like this is the peak of gaming then to be crashed down when Kojima's crazy shit comes along for the ride. Although I do think your representation of the ending was a little incomplete and uncharitable in a lot of places. MGS4 took the structure laid out from Naked Snake VS The Boss and made it a chess match between two misinterpreted versions of the will of The Boss, BB's misinterpretation and Zero's BB's misinterpretation: lead him to start a nation of soldiers, that called their own shots, but only to be manipulated, and framed as unhinged lunatics. While in the process, bumping up against the vigilantly conundrum. How in the end you just become the villain. Zero's misinterpretation: lead to the digital enslavement of the human race. In the end main line all MGS games are these two wills clashing against one another at increasing steaks. It was hype as fuck to see that Old Snake knew he couldn't let Liquid just destroy GW and take the reigns in it's absence. However in the end Old Snake broke free from the Patriots chain. By doing this exactly the way he did it, old Snake really saved us all in the end by stumbling on the correct will of The Boss. Liquid Ocelot successfully destroyed GW, reset the world's debt, and rendered every single deadly weapon useless. While Snake killed Liquid, Eva, and Big Boss. This makes all the potential misinterpretations out of the way to assume power, meanwhile the world was back to the wild West however with working technology and no debt or weapons. The world was resored to a true honor system, free from so much baggage debt and destruction potential. This is why Solid Snake is the GoAT, he stumbled on the correct will of The Boss just doing what he thought was right, while at the end he just saw himself as a killer doing another hit. Which is why it was impactful that who but Big Boss to save him from a gun in his mouth and deliver that fact to him face to face, complete with a CQC hug. 4s ending was choice, and that is why MGS2 and 4 are my faves. Because I prefer Solid Snake, Otacon and Raiden's inherent natural purity to lean towards good. They are the characters that I aspire to on that fact alone. Some people are just good men, while Solid was a man that did nothing but follow orders while being lied to and betrayed, in the end he pulled it out and saved all our asses as correctly as he could. That's what heros do. A fitting ending to one of the greatest fictional character in my opinion.
yeah , thats how clonning works, clones get old pretty fast, all depend on the age of the original theconversation.com/more-lessons-from-dolly-the-sheep-is-a-clone-really-born-at-age-zero-73031
I think the 'our raw materials are vintage' line comes from this concept: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC305328/ There was a theory (not sure it's still considered valid) that aspects of an organism's DNA (telomeres) slowly degrade over the life of the organism. So, if you source DNA from a man in his 50s you might wind up inheriting DNA that's already partially 'aged'. This might depend on from where you source the DNA.
Isn't the Johnny and Meryl bit meant to harken back to the melodrammatic and grand gestures of old espionage flicks? I figured the world wind romance of it was a result of Kojima DIRECTLY playing up all the influences of the stuff that inspired MGS for what was MEANT to be the big finale. I thought it was fun and awesome and silly in the way the rest of the game was.
You say that Fukushima departed from MGS4 because it was too corporately dominated. Seems like there are lots of reasons people leave jobs, which could be as mundane as bring caught stealing a stapler from the office or hating the crunch hours and deciding it would be better for one's mental health to go work at 7-11.
Surprisingly that is how actual cloning works. If the thing you cloned was about to die, then the clone baby will die too. This was found out when they cloned a sheep or something.
Haven't finished the video yet as I am about to enter class, but that intro was unnerving as fuck for me! I wasn't at the screen for a few moments and hearing my own voice out of nowhere gave me a weird Twilight Zone doppelganger feel. Was expecting it to say something creepy too. Anyways, I shall report back when I finish the video.
I feel the biggest reason why I disliked MGS4 was because I played 80% of the game in one day. I played the second half of MGS2 in one day and I liked that game, so there could be more reasons I can't quite think of now. Soon enough, I'm going to play through all of them again, so we'll see how I feel about it a second time.
Doubt youl read this but the hug is a big deal as snake has foxdie in him and it will kill big boss and does immediately. He whent out with zero and wanted to have no ill will for snake. He also tells snake the aging process will return to normal giving him a few more years or however hed naturally have. But yeah that does feel like asspull for emotionall payoff.
I love this game and series. Got to love Otacon getting to have nerdy helicopter sex with Naomi than her dying later on. I get the feeling Kojima wanted Otacon to have a curse where all the women he slept with or love die at some point.
@@thorhighheels when i heard this song I immediately recognized it, but I just couldn't remember where it was from. thanks for reminding me. such a beautiful vibe.
You dont understand how hard mgs4 made me when I first played if as a kid thankfully it kept me company during the PSN outage and I loved playing it over 6 or 9 times cause of the possibilities and feeling it was perfect I just wish the series took that direction more but unfortunately konami FUCKED UP
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8:15
Actually No,
cloning isn't like normal reproducing. The cell core will carrying all the same data along side all the ageing with it.
It's a technical issue the modern science still can't over come.
The problem with this plot is that the ageing won't be showing up so late.
when are we gettin brisco bits with guest star sumio mondo?
Play legacy of kain soul reaver
You mention things in spanish from time to time...
when i can get brisco's voice actor to read lines for me lol
You know, the Big Boss reveal at the end is dumb as hell. But . . . the last line delivered by that character does make me tear up a little. That's Kojima for you; he's both amazing and awful all at the same time
This is good. Isn't it?
When I was in senior high school our art teacher said we were supposed to pick a famous real person and draw a portrait with charcoal
I chose Old Snake, got an A- and I used to be a C- student in that teacher's class
Thank you Snake
Did you drawn him in the suit or the octocamo?
@@nisnast in the octocamo 😄
Otacon: do you think love can bloom on a battlefield?
Johnny: yeh
He kept pooping
until he pooped the question and she said yeh
oh poor Johnny
oh poor pooping Johnny
MGS4 is definitely one of the best cases I can think of where the heart and experience of the piece outweighs anything it can actually deliver in terms of a complete story or individual story moments.
If you've been along for the ride from the beginning, there's really nothing quite like the final fistfight's multiple "phases", and I love that the game is so willing to leverage gaming's unique aspects as a medium - namely that they're *interactive* in a way other media just isn't - and just be completely unashamed in the corniness of it. Like the microwave hallway and how it exhausts the player through button mashing as well. At that point even the game itself is practically becoming that way overeager weeaboo fanboy friend you have that's nudging you with an elbow and an ear-to-ear grin and making you admit that yeah, this is corny as fuck, but sometimes it's okay to just accept that.
So much of the game seems like they held a meeting and asked, "so, is this too melodramatic? Does this go over the line from serious into ridiculous? No? Then turn that shit up, then go a step further." And I'm all over that shit.
Well put!
8:15
Actually No,
cloning isn't like normal reproducing. The cell core will carrying all the same data along side all the ageing with it.
It's a technical issue the modern science still can't over come.
The problem with this plot is that the ageing won't be showing up so late.
Yes. Britain had a famous cloned sheep which died prematurely due to rapid ageing. Totally a thing.
@@michaelkitchin9665 nope, thats stupid and fake news. Ever since Canada cloned a cow in 2001 canada hasnt had to import meat. Britian should figure that out. But they're to busy drinking tea, and fisting themselves.
@@kylebrown4978 We have to do something until the Brexit deadline.
He gets some wrong and stupid but he got the spirit
You’re forgetting the most important aspect of the PS3 aesthetic. It’s B R O W N.
Nier and Resonance of Fate fits the PS3 aesthetic pretty well. On that note I should like, continue playing Nier (as well as yakiwami) instead of playing Ace 7 lol.
I enjoy it when you talk about specific things like this. Like anything really specific like a genre or gamefeel thing not many people really talk about, but makes you go "oh ikr, that thing yeeeah". People are already nostalgic for PS1 graphics, so I wonder how this stuff will be remembered fondly.
DUDE I SHOULD'VE MENTIONED NIER. That game is so PS3 is hurts.
Mmmm, Resonance of Fate...
God I hate how washed out the colour pallets were.
Ps3 aesthetic is just japanese games that are brownish.
Your voice and execution of script/aesthetic are like literal prozac to me. But on another note you deserve waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more everything for your music and videos. Currently bumpin the Architecture album at work, shits like liquid epic drippin in my ears
8:20 that's actually why Sheep Dolly aged faster, because your DNA gets "older" and if they make a clone out of you, your clone will be born with older genes. It's not the same when half the generic code for each of your parents.
Great video, by the way, as always you create the most entertaining vidyagaem revoos
you beat me to saying that. Its because how cloning works is they put a part of the males DNA, raw DNA not sperm, into a egg in the female's ovaries. That DNA is carrying the exact information, including age, of the male and creates a child. So the birth of the child has DNA that's the same age as the male that they clone from.
I have to go to sleep, it's 3am where I live, but I want to say that you're the golden standard for game review/retrospectives/general hoo-haa, and your stylings honestly deserve their own video analysis for how efficiently they balance humour and information without appearing overly zany.
8:10 Actually, yes, as far as I know, it kind of is how it works. DNA has so-called telomeres, which get shorter and shorter each time a cell divides, and when they get too short, cell can't divide any more, so it's basically a DNA-encoded age of the cell. There are several ways to clone things. The first one that was found and used, which was used to clone the sheep Dolly, for example, was a method which inherits the current length of telomeres of the source cell, so yes, it transfers its current age to the newly created embryo, meaning you get a baby with cells of an age of the source adult, and thus lifespan shortened to whatever time the source organism had left at the time of cloning.
Normal sexual reproduction doesn't inherit telomere length, though, in normal sexual reproduction, they get re-built to their full starting length. I'm not entirely sure if since then, there's been new/other methods of cloning developed, which don't inherit telomere length (and thus cell-age of the source organism). I think there were, but I'm not sure.
Emo Ninja VS Gay VAMPire.
This game is truly the peak of human accomplishments.
Haha the whistling music from that one good bad game. I love that bad game.
@@maedotvod Lolwot.
DRUNK COMMENTS, DON'T HELD THEM AGAINST ME, I AM INNOCENT
1- I need a Tomozaku Fukushima to help me with my writing cause I hate setting justification, I just like writing funny banter and SODOMY.
2- 7:20 Maybe his snake is flaccid but dat ass, oh, dat ass brings my gerontophilia to the surface. And then you follow that up with "Life is Beautiful", the best song ever written after Snake Eater.
3- 14:00 This is one of the most memorable levels, even if I rememner it because of cool aesthetics and how boring it was.
4- 18:00 It's inteesting that you get into the cinematography.
5- 22:23 Eva looks like the best gilf. She's 80! More gerontophilia!
6- 23:42 Good one.
7- 28:00 Devin didn't suck, I'll give Kojima that.
8- 30:00 You are a genious of poop. This fragament of Johnny should be canned with Piero Manzoni's art.
9- 35:00 I liked all your deep thoughts around characters but we are finally at that point where we have to stare at Snake's old ass. We should punch him forward through Mapplethorpe fisting. It would work.
10- 36:36 This is the moment where I hated this game with a passion.The original idea was for Snake and Otacon to be executed on Joan Baez's "Here's to you". But the team convinced Kojima for this shit.
11- 40:00 Fuck Konami for not letting you show the stuff, thank you so much for analyzing the shitty iPhone port, the multiplayer and the arcade I knew nothing about. You're in the top of your game here.
12- I declare this is the most complete and funniest video essay on this fucking turd of a game. ThorHighHeels is the best game reviewer in RUclips. Fat better than me.
13- F U C K K O N A M I
Amazing, mission complete. That right there is why you're the best, Boss.
Here for the Lisa: The Painful and Killer7 references. Amazing.
I personally love Mgs4. The gameplay and the cutscenes are so great and almost unmatched even years later.
Yeah the story is dumb but also full of emotional moments.
0:12 Cameo de Quetzal. Sumamente inesperado, por poco creí que se me había terminado de j*der la PC.
Yo pensé que le había dado a algún video recomendado sin querer. Muy grande Quetzal!
Speak English 😐
@@ookie4179 Globalization buddy. Welcome to the 21st century. There's people from every corner of the world here. Get used to it. 😉
@@francomartinez1286 hahahaha i was just messing with you. Spanish sounds cooler anyways.
Me pasolo mismo 🤣
i'm so glad i found your channel, been watching a lot of your vids and i love ur honest optimism and really deep factual analysis lol
i want a dissertation on ps3 aesthetic bc ive never heard anyone talk about it but its so true
I loved mgs4 it’s my favorite out of the series because it didnt cater to casual people. It was 100% for the hardcore fans
Except that is pisses on hardcore fans by retconning everything.
Heh, I knew exactly what you were talking about when you mentioned that E3 director's chair trailer; it was part of the MGS3 Substance Secret Theater, if I remember correctly.
Also, great review; I never noticed the theater aspect of MGS4 until now, but it did help me appreciate the game a bit more than I have, before, especially regarding the background activity. It was nice to see this alternate yet also interesting perspective after seeing Steak Bentley's also-great review of this.
When you said that "thats not how that works" in regards to Snake's accelerated aging, that actually is how it works. When you clone something the clone's DNA starts at the same "age" as the original. Whenever DNA replicates the ends, telomeres, wear away a little bit. Over time thats what leads to aging. When you clone someone you don't get the option to repair that damage. You can of course restore the telomeres, but any damage caused by aging can't be undone.
I am loving this series hardcore.
I love the story of MGS for the emotions more than the logic, it's one of the very few pieces of fiction where I don't give a flying fuck how dumb it gets, because it's a series that at that point deserves it, and it's just so cinematic and beautiful (Only Kingdom Hearts manages to be as stupid and beautiful at the same time in games). I even enjoy the Big Boss reveal at the end, yes it's kinda' dumb, but I like some of the things being said, and it's a nice closing scene between the two that managed to get me a bit emotional, as both were characters that I loved and seeing them together was great. The only thing I legitimately dislike is the cast of 3 being the Patriots, as I didn't even remember that shit to be honest, it's dumb, inconsequential and isn't in character.
RIP MGO. I'll never forget you.
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She wasn’t “barely a thing” Olga was a major player and a key to the S3 plan succeeding, and the only reason she went through with the Patriot’s plans was because they held her daughter hostage. And I’ve never heard such disingenuous criticism before “i guess we’re going off of the Digital Graphic Novel now” No. Olga herself is given more screentime but Sunny doesn’t have an inch of screentime or even more importance than in the game, the only addition was having Snake conclude Olga’s plotline by saying he’ll take care of her kid.
I'm just amazed by lenght of the video, great job! Mgs4 was the first metal gear that i played, its funny because it turned into one of my favorites games of all time( and talking about gameplay, its the best experience of all mg games, beside the fact that i just love the phisics when a bomb explodes around you, and makes snake fly away hahaha), its just nice to see somebody praising the things that should be praised in this game, the justice that it deserved.
Never bothered me the fact that the game has hours of cutscenes, to be precise i always enjoyed them, i think it is the price to not screw up the gameplay. Take the modern games like uncharted etc, they trade gameplay freedom to delivery a movie like experience, i consider it bad, game should work as games, like mgs 4 does, the game is able to divide narrative from gameplay, so you can have the best from both worlds
I love Lisa, thank for reminding me at the start of the video.
I know how zero and big boss got there.......they took a yellow cab and big boss struggled to wheel zero up the stairs of the grave yard for 30 mins,zero fell out of the wheel chair twice and thats cannon.
Your channel has become my actual favorite, i used to watch the same youtubers but you are simply the best one i've seen, keep the good work! and you should make a discord group btw
I would make a Discord, but I know myself, and so I know that I probably wouldn't be very active on there :(
@@thorhighheels it's okay tho! you could have the comunity talking there and be active when you can nwn only if you want of course, keep the good content
Love the series! You put so much hard work into your content, I really think it shows!
Im a simple man i get a notification thor uploaded a new video, I press like even before watching it. He’s just that cool.
(Chris) This is officially my new favorite RUclips channel
Seriously though, MGS4 has to be one of the best games ever made. It’s a fan’s game no doubt but the way it presents itself is something no other piece of media will ever a hive. MGS4 is a masterpiece and will always stay in my collection 😭
As a Dutch speaker, I have to compliment you on your English. Especially the random fucks and shits you put in randomly. It's almost an art.
How does Konami manage to copystrike your videos so fast?
I think one of your subscribers is mole. lol
Its zero behind the youtube algorithms and he likes mgs4s ending
8:10 actually, it is how it works for cloning, but still, great video
At 5:38 I was expecting a Billie Eilish reference because damn, that is almost bad guy. You are amazing Thor.
The more I think about it, the more 4 is my favorite.
What was with the moon floating across the screen? lol
Yeah I can feel that PS3 aesthetic to. Tomb Raider and Last of Us felt a little like that also. It might be early for some but we can say we likes it before it was cool. Hey! I saw that PS3 prototype controller floating.
Honestly, come to think about it, I wonder what would the PS4 aesthetic be like.
@@ytfisthisathing Really detailled PS3 game? It's hard to tell right now.
@@ytfisthisathing Besides the meme of PS4'S third-person over-the-shoulder cinematic action games, the most notable design element of this generation is probably that ultra-minimalist and clinical sans serif UI used in every game.
@@47ejecting2 You know, speaking of that, one thing I noticed is how smooth the camera can move.
@@ytfisthisathing Yeah, it's weird that it took four generations of 3D consoles to perfect dual-analog camera and movement. Some PS3 games are like playing as a drunk person.
You explained RE4s controls surprisingly well
Simulation Theory is legit mindblowing though! With one assumption - that eventually computers will be able to simulate a person's entire experience - the odds are extremely overwhelming that I am already living in a simulation and nobody else I experience really exists. Hell, even just accepting that premise without going further takes the odds from 0% to 50%, but once you figure a computer can simulate an entire person's existence for them, well, what business only has one computer...
No, when it comes to cloning, accelerated aging is a very real thing
Given that he kept wanting each game to be the last, I'm convinced that Kojima was trying to kill off his series in the grandest fashion while fucking with as many people as possible along the way, thinking the only way to save his art was to destroy it, and that was why the series got so stupid.
He must've gotten sick of people wanting even more.
So I've heard, in the original Japanese audio track, Big Boss and Old Snake were voiced by an estranged father and son.
Fun Fact : MGS4's original ending was ment to have Snake and Otacon be executed for Warcrimes. But people in the office felt it was too unoriginal and dark, so Kojima had to change it. Concept art still remains of Snake being escorted by guards down a hallway.
Shirrako, ffs I used to play back then some survival with-against you. MGO2 gave me some of my best actual friends and memories
I beat the game, no alerts, non lethal takedowns only. It was a ton of fun playing this way
Because these are RUclips comments, and because this video is several years old, I will pick exactly one thing to nitpick. To explain how BB manages to wheel a vegetable unbeknownst to Solid straight up behind him in the cemetery, I offer this extremely well thought out conclusion:
He's Big fucking Boss, dude could have infiltrated Solid's rectum with Arsenal Gear.
Ah Metal Gear solid Touch where you can touch enemies to touchdeath
Based Thor.
Man, I loved MGS4.
Finally a good mgs4 review
im gonna make "shits comfy and a I fuck with it" my motto
*WARNING: NOVEL AHEAD*
Okay, finally finished the video and I gotta say congratulations for pushing out this monster of a video and dodging the Konami SS.
Not gonna lie, I was never the biggest fan of MGS4. I respect all the effort that was put into it, and in terms of graphics and gameplay , it really holds up (not that the PS3 has aged that poorly though). I guess I draw issue with the fact that it (at least feels to me) like a game spawned to give answers to people who hated MGS2. I'm sure a lot of love went into the game, but I just get that feeling from it.
That being said, while I dislike the answers given, I do think game serves as a great emotional conclusion to the franchise. I first played these games back to back during the summer of 2013, just before high school started and I grew to love each and everyone of the characters, so seeing most of them go on with their lives really made me happy in a bittersweet kinda way. I won't even lie when I say that seeing Snake rapidly age, and knowing that he was going to die soon (whether it be in game or not) after getting to know him through the course of the series actually really made me sad. The whole game was pretty melancholic in that regard, even though he gets a semi-happy ending.
I never got to play MGS Online on either game, and it really sucks that Konami is so prone to just vaporize entire parts of it's history for whatever reason (or just let it gather dust like SH4). Kinda reminds me of Demon's Souls servers being shut down, and being brought back by the fans. Only that in Demon's Souls' case, all's you have to do is change your PS3's DNS, not mod the console.
Anyways, fantastic video and thanks again for the shout out at the beginning!
wait who are u again?
@@thorhighheels This isn't Spanish class, is it?
Have a
It's shocking to me that these videos only have view counts in five digits
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It's canon Otacon is a Zone of the Enders fan
When you started talking about the PS3 aesthetic I started yelling "THATS FUCKING IT". Maybe a few more years until more people understand what makes that type of aesthetic.
Snake shot himself. Dark "war is hell and snake died for your sins ending. The end. This is the one thing I'm stubborn about despite that "back to 0" shit directly in my face.
Mgs4: buns of the thiccness
Haha this video and MGS4 in general highlight what a rollercoaster ride a Kojima Productions game is. So many moments that feel like this is the peak of gaming then to be crashed down when Kojima's crazy shit comes along for the ride. Although I do think your representation of the ending was a little incomplete and uncharitable in a lot of places. MGS4 took the structure laid out from Naked Snake VS The Boss and made it a chess match between two misinterpreted versions of the will of The Boss, BB's misinterpretation and Zero's
BB's misinterpretation: lead him to start a nation of soldiers, that called their own shots, but only to be manipulated, and framed as unhinged lunatics. While in the process, bumping up against the vigilantly conundrum. How in the end you just become the villain.
Zero's misinterpretation: lead to the digital enslavement of the human race.
In the end main line all MGS games are these two wills clashing against one another at increasing steaks.
It was hype as fuck to see that Old Snake knew he couldn't let Liquid just destroy GW and take the reigns in it's absence. However in the end Old Snake broke free from the Patriots chain. By doing this exactly the way he did it, old Snake really saved us all in the end by stumbling on the correct will of The Boss.
Liquid Ocelot successfully destroyed GW, reset the world's debt, and rendered every single deadly weapon useless. While Snake killed Liquid, Eva, and Big Boss. This makes all the potential misinterpretations out of the way to assume power, meanwhile the world was back to the wild West however with working technology and no debt or weapons. The world was resored to a true honor system, free from so much baggage debt and destruction potential.
This is why Solid Snake is the GoAT, he stumbled on the correct will of The Boss just doing what he thought was right, while at the end he just saw himself as a killer doing another hit. Which is why it was impactful that who but Big Boss to save him from a gun in his mouth and deliver that fact to him face to face, complete with a CQC hug. 4s ending was choice, and that is why MGS2 and 4 are my faves. Because I prefer Solid Snake, Otacon and Raiden's inherent natural purity to lean towards good. They are the characters that I aspire to on that fact alone. Some people are just good men, while Solid was a man that did nothing but follow orders while being lied to and betrayed, in the end he pulled it out and saved all our asses as correctly as he could. That's what heros do. A fitting ending to one of the greatest fictional character in my opinion.
yeah , thats how clonning works, clones get old pretty fast, all depend on the age of the original
theconversation.com/more-lessons-from-dolly-the-sheep-is-a-clone-really-born-at-age-zero-73031
Weird, strange, creepy and intresting!
I think the 'our raw materials are vintage' line comes from this concept: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC305328/
There was a theory (not sure it's still considered valid) that aspects of an organism's DNA (telomeres) slowly degrade over the life of the organism. So, if you source DNA from a man in his 50s you might wind up inheriting DNA that's already partially 'aged'. This might depend on from where you source the DNA.
I mean my girlfriend loved to watch me play mgs4 BECAUSE it was like a movie for her
Isn't the Johnny and Meryl bit meant to harken back to the melodrammatic and grand gestures of old espionage flicks? I figured the world wind romance of it was a result of Kojima DIRECTLY playing up all the influences of the stuff that inspired MGS for what was MEANT to be the big finale.
I thought it was fun and awesome and silly in the way the rest of the game was.
Shout out the J Cole False Prophets sample.
Great song.
yeah.
man... ur channel is so fkn good
HIS REASONS WERE ALWAYS SOLID
Pure gold!
What is the name of the short film made in MGS3's engine?
You say that Fukushima departed from MGS4 because it was too corporately dominated. Seems like there are lots of reasons people leave jobs, which could be as mundane as bring caught stealing a stapler from the office or hating the crunch hours and deciding it would be better for one's mental health to go work at 7-11.
Surprisingly that is how actual cloning works. If the thing you cloned was about to die, then the clone baby will die too. This was found out when they cloned a sheep or something.
Peace Walker next?
Yup.
Ayyyyyy my boyyyyy
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- FUCC THE ZUCC
(insta-subbing for that)
Haven't finished the video yet as I am about to enter class, but that intro was unnerving as fuck for me! I wasn't at the screen for a few moments and hearing my own voice out of nowhere gave me a weird Twilight Zone doppelganger feel. Was expecting it to say something creepy too.
Anyways, I shall report back when I finish the video.
I feel the biggest reason why I disliked MGS4 was because I played 80% of the game in one day. I played the second half of MGS2 in one day and I liked that game, so there could be more reasons I can't quite think of now. Soon enough, I'm going to play through all of them again, so we'll see how I feel about it a second time.
CFW PS3s are widely available now, can't get any cheaper than that, actually.
Doubt youl read this but the hug is a big deal as snake has foxdie in him and it will kill big boss and does immediately. He whent out with zero and wanted to have no ill will for snake. He also tells snake the aging process will return to normal giving him a few more years or however hed naturally have. But yeah that does feel like asspull for emotionall payoff.
A-MAZING!
Man, you're like SuperBunnyHop except actually entertaining.
Aw man, what the fuck, you can't just drop a seemingly really interesting Yume Nikki video on me in a language I can't even understand...
I love this game and series. Got to love Otacon getting to have nerdy helicopter sex with Naomi than her dying later on. I get the feeling Kojima wanted Otacon to have a curse where all the women he slept with or love die at some point.
34:58 STANIMA BARS
41:34 Anyone know more about this short film or how to find it online? I did some google searches but cant find anything.
ruclips.net/video/kvXpsvJ9ti0/видео.html
It's amazing how much the Elon Musk comments in this video have aged yet are still perfectly accurate.
The flower should have gone in the weapon slot.
What's with that crescent moon twenty minutes in?
its the ps3 banana controller
I had to check i didn't clicked in the wrong video when i started hearing Quetzal
MSG4 is a gorgeous game , I usually skip the cutscenes.
😂 you missed half the game
hey man, what's the song that starts at 0:53?? i've heard it in other places and have been trying to find it forever
it's called Summer Love from the game LISA The Painful RPG
@@thorhighheels thank you dude!
@@thorhighheels when i heard this song I immediately recognized it, but I just couldn't remember where it was from. thanks for reminding me. such a beautiful vibe.
Anyone know where to find or what to look up for the short film he mentioned at 42:00 ??
I would like to know too, I cant find it online.
What’s the deal with the floater around 21:00 ?
its the banana controller sony tried to pull
Please do Sengoku Rance
Drebin sounds an awful lot like the narrator in Bastion
Yeh, he does!
did konami skimp on hdmi and gave them composite cables on the teams ps3?? and on earlier lcd tvs too oof 44:20
I still have the database on my PS3
You dont understand how hard mgs4 made me when I first played if as a kid thankfully it kept me company during the PSN outage and I loved playing it over 6 or 9 times cause of the possibilities and feeling it was perfect I just wish the series took that direction more but unfortunately konami FUCKED UP
You mean Kojima