@@KillZoneGB it actually isn't, runs very well in VR if you set it correctly. There are settings that clash and completely destroy the frame rate. One of them is advanced sharpen filter.
@@CaseTheCorvetteMan could you tell us wich options to turn off. Rtx3090 here and still awful. And you have to set the shadows on epic if you don't want to see the oponents flying..
I did my own comparison after having some frustration with ACC. I think ultimately I prefer AMS 2. I prefer AMS 2 ffb and tire model - they both have their quirks and but I feel like AMS 2 has a little more play and gives you more room to drive the cars hard. It’s also got better weather, VR, and more diverse content. I play more for immersion than competition so multiplayer is less important to me than the ability to quickly create novel and immersive experiences. They’re both well worth a buy and each does some things better than the other - it just depends on what your priorities are.
simple answer as to which one to buy.....BOTH!!! :) In all seriousness though, IF you are only going to get ONE game to race GT3, ACC is the way to go at this point. I love them both though.
I only race in VR so AMS2 for me. This game looks absolutely incredible in vr with a 3080. Would be nice to get Audi and Ferrari licencing but I doubt it will happen...
I agree. With sims I want to come as close as possible to the real thing. VR brings so much more immersion than a flat screen. I really don't want to go back. And AMS2 is amazing in VR!
A fair-minded and detailed comparison. Good work, Mike. ACC's laser-scanned tracks look second-to-none, although a hefty PC is needed for those lovely graphics. The sim overall shows what can be done when a developer focuses on a specific motorsport series. As AMS2 continues to improve, its wide-ranging content should attract those who want more variety. The two sims make a good pairing.
Well... after DD wheel, pedals and rig to mount the stuff on. Just buy both and compare cars, tracks and road yourself, it's one of the fun things to do. In the end you'll have them all for different reasons. Just don't waste your cash on Project cars 3. If you want a bill every month I racing ( I've bought it and cancelled the service).
I don't get the comparison tbh. Ams2 has like 4 or 5 GT cars. But if you have a weak ass pc like me, choose AMS 2. Haven't touched ACC for months, because Raceroom ranked online races is where it's at!
It's really kind of annoying that GT3/GT4 racing is so popular. Don't get me wrong, I like it, but it seems like now most people shy away from cars that are more difficult to drive because they are so used to super forgiving GT cars. I prefer cars that will bite your face off if you get a little to comfortable, so I'm really enjoying the Sauber C9 in AMS2 right now. LOL!
I love ACC but really can't get on with AMS 2. Just keep testing it after its supposedly had a massive amazing update that fixes everything and it still feels off. Maybe I'm spoilt by ACC. Good comparison though Mike
To me ACC has much more depth i.e. detail in the cars and tracks. I have both sims , but find ACC makes you think more when driving where as AMS2 is more for fun. Although The BMW pro car in AMS2 is fantastic. I only use VR for both and AMS2 is easier on the eye, however i have got use to ACC VR , so its not really a problem for me. I have a 1080ti and a 6700k and both games are very playable
I think acc is playable with my 1070 in vr. Of course not lots of eye candy and with asw enabled but still good enough. Been waiting for my 3080 for about 4 months now :/
Yeah, 19 bucks is nothing but it comes down to that price a number of times a year - now it's Easter, so it's down again. No one buys at full price. But it's basically a half-finished game ripped from pc2 with inferior GT cars and limited and/or sketchy other cars, so I'm not buying.
I just got AMS2 a couple of weeks ago, so I haven't tried a lot of the cars yet. But I do agree, you have to really watch the gas mid-turn. Really likes to whip around on you. Havent tried VR in it yet. But I do prefer ACC a little bit. I jump around from sim to sim though. I mainly play ACC (for the driving) and RaceRoom for the content (I paid for a bunch of stuff, feel obligated to use it :) ) But I like the variety of tracks and cars. I have Rf2 as well and use that to replicate IMSA racing as close as I can.
I suggest trying both... you can refund if not happy. I own both, and enjoy them for different reasons. AMS2 is so easy to jump into and have fun, and the FFB on my ancient Fanatec CSR wheel is outstanding. Conversely, the lack of rear end feedback in ACC is hugely frustrating ... I am adding a Buttkicker to my setup for this very reason. If I am in a serious racing mood (i.e. hotlapping), I turn to ACC.
This video was a bit odd to me. Maybe its just your title. It should be "Which One Should I Buy for GT content?" - Competizione vs Automobilista 2. This video was almost entirely about GT and had barely anything to do with AMS vs ACC. AMS - has insane amount more cars and tracks, graphics are comparable but the performance of ACC is horrible, so AMS wins as getting ultra with 120fps is easy and VR work way better. Day night is amazing. free cars coming every month as well. ACC- better FFB and sense of feel, online ranked racing with an entire penalty system. Better depth and quality for the GT classes it has. As a game if you arent doing ranked GT multiplayer, AMS2 is clearly better. Offers way more for the buck. But yeah if all you care about is GT then easily ACC wins.
ACC is entirely focused on GT cars. If you want variety of cars you buy the normal AC or any other sim. ACC does only GT and does it very well. It would be easier just to say: - If you're only interested in GT racing and want a structured online ranking system, play ACC - If you want more variety, play AMS 2 or any other sim
I generally agree. My problem with ACC is it's so GPU intensive. I have to really turn it down to get decedent frame rates and trying to race with more than 10 cars on the track simply kill my FPS. AMS2 preforms much much better in that department. Admittedly I currently have a RX 5500 XT which I will upgrade some year in the future when GPU's are actually available. The big downside in AMS2 is car and track handling. To me it's just bad. It's ok in practice and race but switch over to time trial and everything changes. It's junk. I pretty much have all the major sims, they really each have their own positives. RF2 is still my go to.
Yes, ACC is also my fave sim, and VR just annoys me, so its bad implementation into the game isn't a problem either (rFactor 2 takes a close second). Nice comparison, Mike.
@ziher123 True! There's so many and all are so good! I have hyperfocus days. I can't really focus on playing one racing game for months, I'm super into certain games then I do something else for a few days. Right now i'm into F1 lol
AMS2 does not even hold a candle to ACC, it is not even in the same league, and likely never will be. Anyone considering AMS2 would do good to look at rF2 instead, it has just as many cars, more tracks, a hell of a lot of free content, and just about as many people playing online. Even Race Room racing experience is better in many ways than AMS2. No idea why they added GT3s in AMS2, massive amount of content already, and still far too many glitches to be concerning themselves with trying to compete against a sim they will never even touch. Before anyone wants to jump in and say something stupid like "but AMS2 has not been out long, takes time to fix the bugs you know...." Sure it does, no doubt, but this has been out for close to 12 months now, these guys didn't start from scratch with this, and they still to this day seem to be prioritising pointless additional content over fixing the issues or even adding a useful ranking system. As a result, majority of the very few available online races are just a total mess. If they spent as much time fixing the glitches and terrible net coding in AMS2 it might just be a great sim, but so far they don't seem to be doing much with it, and consequently hardly anyone seems to be playing it online. The VR might run better in AMS2, but the visuals are pretty ordinary in comparison, and if you set it up correctly in ACC there is nothing wrong with how it runs, at least on a Pimax 8K X or Pimax 5K+, (using a 2080Ti and a 2060 respectively), no idea how other headsets hold up, but given that they all have significantly less FOV and hence, a lot lower per eye resolution, i can't imagine the other headsets would be any worse for overall performance.
You have those ordinary visuals and a bodgy glitchy game then, i'll stick with the razor sharp image ACC gives in VR when you bother to set it up correctly instead of leaving conflicting settings.
Just look at bland track textures in AMS2 as if created using generic procedural texture or something like race track builder. ACC clearly shows a separation of the racing line from the less used trackside. IMO this variation in roughness adds a lot to the feeling of speed vs floating. Someone should request Reiza to update this with a big patch.
I’d love to love ACC but the FFB just does not feel like I expect it to. Literally no feel. Have this problem on my T300 but also on my CSL Elite. Tried many changes in FFB settings and wheel settings. It’s the only thing holding me back from playing it..
Great job with a thoughtful video as usual with Mike... from my side ACC is also missing different track layouts. Yes, I know the championships that ACC simulates only use those particular layouts, but they are missing a trick that would add more variety to those that just to play for fun. I love Donington, but prefer the National layout, it’s more natural and flowing without the Melbourne loop. Donington exists in both sims (as a £12 DLC for ACC, free with AMS2), but only AMS has the National layout.
I have to disagree. I watch A LOT of GT3 racing. Watching pedal cams on the real car shows so much input. I feel like you can just smash the gas always on ACC. To each their own. ACC is by far the more polished of the 2 but AMS2 is unforgiving with throttle input
@@AG-gw2gm Oh, that will be more words. ACC at 1080p is a blurry mess for sure. If one has the hardware, increasing the resolution scaling to a reasonable level makes the sim look much sharper. With this setting you are basically supersampling. I am running it at 120 resolution scale (so 20 % higher resolution downsampled to 1080p).
@@TheTriggerfinger999 AMD Image Sharpening is a completely different thing. Ultra does not help with blurriness. If you use in-game sharpening, make sure to enable advanced sharpen filter, it helps in movement. And try to increase that resolution scale if your GPU allows. It will not be AMS2 sharp, but it can be better. That's the problem with TAA.
Ams2 after recent updates is wonderful, ffb is finally very pleasant and natural. AI is a bit worse than rf2 but much better than ACC. For full happiness I miss bigger grid, custom championship with many settings possible. I haven't had such a long break from rf2 for a long time. ;)
I basically own every Sim title... well not PC3, bought it and got refunded within 2hrs. Concerning these 2 titles, my answer would be: None of them. One has a horribly unfitting graphics engine and weirdest over-the-top FFB (yet a solid physics engine), the other a wanna-be-believable FFB with a crappy underlying physics engine (yes, I can drift to a turn with a F3 like in a rally car on gravel, but do I want that??). So better get your hands on AC1, rFactor2, R3E or iRacing.
So if I want to run a variety of classes what is better, Automobilista2, original Assetto Corsa with various mods or iRacing? Assuming cost is not an issue.
I've had ACC for about one year & I've had AMS2 for about 1 month. Well Mike ...you couldn't have picked two Sims that are harder to make a decision on. I'm a man that always had favorites ...but in this case ...they offer different flavors & do it so well that it is not easy to decide. So I'm just gonna love BOTH of 'em for now.
The answer is simple: rFactor 2 :-D Now seriously, I have tried and tried and tried and I simply can't get any decent driving feel out of AMS2. None whatsoever, even with custom FFB files... The cars seem to have no rolling feel (inertia is poorly simulated) and they move unnaturally, with an exaggerated yaw movement as their only point of contact with the track was the dead centre of the car and not the 4 points where the wheels are. On the other hand, ACC is indeed limited in its contents, but on the GT level, it's simply a no contest as it is the most accurate and lifelike GT experience in the market. Now... back to rFactor2: if you are able to overcome the inconveniences which this game has - committing to playing it is like being in love with your better half and have the patience to put up with some tantrums - then you will have BOTH an incredible driving feel (second to none) and loads of varied content.
I love the graphics and content of AMS 2, but the force feedback and physics are wack right now. :( I am trying different custom ffb mods to try to fix it, but the driving in ACC is just leaps and bounds better right now. The sad thing is that even wreckfest and beamng.drive have more precise feeling ffb than ams2
I have both but I just can't get used to AMS2. For me ACC feels more immersive. Also, for online racing it is a good alternative to iRacing. It's not perfect but has a good base to build on especially if they keep adding series and cars.
All the VR comments are a bit to much 😂 ACC it’s just fine lately. I’m racing it in VR and absolutely loving it. Finally got the settings right. Most people are playing it in 1080ti or 2070-80 which are poor for vr. Maybe the 2080 super oc will cut it with decent ress scale
I just started simracing 2 months ago and my wheel of choice was the T300RS. I am playing both sims just for fun and mostly against AI or just trying to get better pace. I would love to like ACC more, because the overall package is amazing and I love GT3. But I really dont like the FFB in ACC and how the Cars feel, and i tried so many settings or maybe its just me driving bad and getting frustrated, idk. I m about 80 hrs in the game now but i think it took me around 20 hrs to get a 1:51:990 at Monza with the Lexus. In AMS2 after about 10 mins setting up the FFB the Cars feel amazing and I think it took me around 5 Laps to get a low 49 at Monza with the McLaren 720S. I dont even know if its ok to compare the lap times in the 2 sims. Maybe ACC is just too hard for me so right now i would give my thumbs up to AMS2.
Look, if you are a sim racer 99% sure you buy all the games. Compared to wheels and pedals, the games are the cheapest part of the sport. Iracing excluding
Always fun watching ! I notice you dont have a HEAD MOVEMENT add on ? similar to Track IR in turns ... its worth it cuz it changes your view of the Apex ! I think its RHM in AC as an ex. Anywho, can you tell me how you found the EDIT button assignments in AMS2 ? I notice they have it broiken down in sections - is it easy ? quirky ? I have AMS1 and its nearly unusable assigning buttons. Want AMS2 so I downloaded the demo and it wont recognize my Hardware ? But the menus dotn seem complete in the demo version. I tried asking Reiza ... no luck.
Not necessarily, ACC (Assetto Corsa Competizione) and AMS2 (Automobilista 2) are both very good sims. ACC is GT3/GT4 focused, while AMS2 is similar to AC ("normal" Assetto Corsa) in content. If VR is really important to you, AMS2 is more VR friendly than ACC. If multiplayer is very important to you, ACC is more popular. If you can, I would recommend you to get them both. My personal choice is AMS2 because I mainly race in VR and I really like some of its other racing classes.
Acc FFB for the t300 is so trash that rfactor 2 is the way to go. I have never driven ab2 so I can't attest to that but I try over and over to like acc and I just can't. The cars don't feel right on the limit and just are awkward with rf2 you can send it go hoonigan sideways and be comfortable getting it back. With acc if the back starts to go its like I racing its see ya lataaaa
Sometimes you just got to go for it and this is one of them so just buy them both, they each have their strengths and I race them both regularly so I have already got my money’s worth out of them both.
I like ACC and its the way to go if you want the full GT3 experience, unfortunately my PC isn't the greatest so I have to run much lower graphic settings for it to run smoothly whereas I have no problem running AMS2 on max. On the whole I think ACC is a more consistent experience most cars are pretty good fun to drive whereas there are a lot of cars in AMS2 I don't really enjoy that said however with the right car/track combo AMS2 can be a hugely more enjoyable game, I could drive the Porsche GT3, Copa Montana, GT1s or the Brazilian stock cars in that game for hours against AI and not get bored and as soon as the custom championships get implemented I think it will be the one I spend the most time in.
I rotate playing rfactor 2, ams2 and acc comp. The more I play ACC the more I truly enjoy the driving experience. The sound is def superior to the other sim games.
ACC has much better sounds and the GT3 cars are superior. AMS2 has the best VR of all sims, (ACC is terrible in VR). AMS2 has superior FFB, huge variation of cars and tracks.. including the legendary Nordschleife. In Dec 2021: For flat-screen GT3 racing go for ACC. For everything else (especially VR!) AMS2 is for you.
Well i like acc but the ffb doest provide much Information. Only drivable with a (in my case) with a buttkicker where you can bind for example wheel slip etc.. Regarding AMS2 there is a lot of work ahead of reiza
ACC looks like made of clay and stutters on every graphics setup. The best one for PC is still the first AC, not competizione. Automobilista as a simulator reminds me of Project Cars, so more arcade-ish, but just like PC it runs smooth on my PC and ACC doesn't. Like I already said unreal engine is pretty strange at least for racing games, everything looks like clay and it stutters. Fix this and ACC will be the best (that is if you only like 1 type of cars).
After all the work and updates AMS2 made ... try it. ACC and RaceRoom are nice, but it allways feels driving on "ice" ... AMS2 has a real grip feeling .. iRacing is only for spending endless money .. 😉 all my opinion ☺️👍👋🇨🇭.
#1 RF2 #2 AMS2 #3 AC #4 ACC don't own iracing so not sure where it slots in. I'd recommend buying all 4 if on sale. But RF2 is for me the best of the group hands down.
hmm. i definitely disagree here. appreciate the vid, as always. heres to end of 2021 re-comparison; when there becomes zero doubt in peoples minds- reiza & madness is the perfect formula. let them cook a bit more ;)
That was an issue I had with the original Assetto Corsa as well. I think the only way around it is to turn down the number of cars you have on track in AI races. I've never had it in multiplayer, so if you are having it there, not sure what to do.
Ams2 all day , I love acc but it falls short now ams2 has been updated many times , I use custom ffb I had on project cars 2 and it’s far better than acc (not in every car) mind you . Christians pure ffb is great
@@SimRacing604 process lasso helps massively for FPS ruclips.net/video/NFhsz862n2c/видео.html use these settings basically as a good starting point, I was getting a good 30fps on acc extra in4k max setting everything, from around 120fps straight to 150fps upto 180fps at times on certain tracks 200fps on ams2 full max at 4096 × 2160 I was fully on the acc side myself until a month or so ago for sure but I’ve totally changed my mind 😂
AMS2 handling and physics are a little funky and out of whack. Only a few cars that they have dialed in so far. They are fighting a battle against a lousy sim racing engine. The sim still needs a lot of work, but the future looks bright!
No, they market a sim with 50 cars or whatever and only fix half, they continue this with dlc and we have to pay to play down the line. It could be 12 months or more before most cars drive properly and that assumes they fix the exaggerated throttle response that ruins some cars.
I dont know why the dont used the old and very very good ffb of automobilista 1? Automobilista 1 was so much better in terms of ffb and feeling of the car and road.....
I've stopped playing AMS2 because after every update you have to reset setting on wheel or cars behave differently or all weirdness so you can't get to enjoy it because next time you play it it will be different. Constant physics updates, constant ffb updates. When they finally decide what they want from it I might try it again.
@@SimRacing604 that's what I'm doing with ams2 at the moment. ACC use to be the game I played every couple of months when it was in its early stages...it's now my go to sim, can't even play iracing anymore either
Modded AC is still the best bang for the buck in my opinion. While I enjoy and respect class-specific sims, ACC's lack of content is not appealing to many and the team behind Automobilista 2 have to find their way around many issues and limitations from the PCARS engine it uses thanks to SMS's habit of leaving every project unpolished and unfinished. For that reason I have refused to purchase anything SMS/WMD related again, Automobilista 2 included. SMS have dropped support for what could have been some of the best games and simulations over many years to come shortly after release too many times to be trusted.
You really make a compelling argument for both sims. I have recently been doing weekly races on SRS using ACC and I must say that it is pretty good. It looks and sounds excellent although it is a bit more taxing on my PC when using epic settings. I've only just gotten AMS2 and I haven't had time to put it through its paces as yet, but I can't wait to get at it.
Despite the fact that I purchase both game i choose AMS 2 because my device can actually run it, unlike ACC, wich in lowest setting my device cant run.
ACC looks great but with my G920 wheel I can't feel the car. With AMS I can feel when it is stepping out easier and makes for a better experience for me.
The other obvious matter is that ACC is much better for multi player (has much more going on) and AMS 2 is better in single player vs AI (the AI are more exciting to race against and don't boot you off the track for no reason).
The side by side in your 1st few minutes shows the weird Bouncy McBounce Bounce movement in AMS 2 compared to ACC pretty well. I just can't get past that.
FFS, THE BOUNCY MCBOUNCE FEELING HAS IMPROVED, BEFORE IT WAS A DOUBLE QUARTER POUNDER MCBOUNCE WITH EXTRA PICKLES, NOW THEY'VE DUMPED PICKLES AND REDUCED IT TO A SINGLE PATEE MCBOUNCE WITH LESS BOUNCE. GIVE EM 12 MONTHS AND THEY'LL PRODUCE THE BIG MAC.
Both! absolutely buy both. REIZA really deserves it. ACC is the benchmark, but there is so much love in AMS2 and the guys work so incredibly hard. Even if you only drive a truck or kart there just for fun, REIZA deserves that AMS2 is a success.
if I could choose one game, it wouldnt be either of those especially if I was new to sim racing. I never managed to get ACC FFB to work I dont mean its not good its totally undriveable, its a game I own, but never play. The sound I think is awful, sounds like Ive been rear ended by a truck everytime I change gear and unless youve got a top end PC, the graphics arent great. and I can imagine, you quickly get bored of limited tracks and cars. RF2 is much better although gets quite costly buying DLCs etc and again you need a decent PC to run it. I would recomend Assetto Corsa. I just hope Assetto Corsa 2, is not based on ACC and is an upgraded AC. it runs great on most PCs and if you can think of a car track combo, its available, most of the time for free
I don't know man. The FFB and physics modeling in AMS2 is getting really good with the latest patch. I agree that ACC is a better overall GT race weekend experienced, but if I had to pick one based on FFB alone, I might go with AMS2. It's starting to feel a lot like RF2, IMHO.
AMS2 with same PC2 graphics engine, ehmm, no, no way, not with ACC. May be have better VR with AMS2, but that's not everything in virtual racing. The only one that can rival ACC is rF2, and not for much.
"The VR runs much better in AMS2" is in early running for the understatement of 2021.
Still a long way to go in 2021. Maybe I could top it with “ACC is a cheaper option than iRacing”
Lol so true. It also looks so much better in VR. If only there were more people online :( Every time I look there's like 30 people tops its so sad.
So true, ACC is so poor on the vr front.
That's the only reason on not purchasing the dlc.
Can't comment on ams2.
@@KillZoneGB it actually isn't, runs very well in VR if you set it correctly. There are settings that clash and completely destroy the frame rate. One of them is advanced sharpen filter.
@@CaseTheCorvetteMan could you tell us wich options to turn off. Rtx3090 here and still awful. And you have to set the shadows on epic if you don't want to see the oponents flying..
I would buy everything 😉 I bought every sim except pcars 3
pcars3 is as much a sim as FH4
@@DangerHiVoltage but FH4 is a fun game
I also have every sim (except iRacing ) also GTR2 and GT Legends 😊
No pcars games are sims, they're simcadey and annoying to set up.
i also buy everything and even bought pc3.
What a waste of money
I did my own comparison after having some frustration with ACC. I think ultimately I prefer AMS 2.
I prefer AMS 2 ffb and tire model - they both have their quirks and but I feel like AMS 2 has a little more play and gives you more room to drive the cars hard. It’s also got better weather, VR, and more diverse content.
I play more for immersion than competition so multiplayer is less important to me than the ability to quickly create novel and immersive experiences.
They’re both well worth a buy and each does some things better than the other - it just depends on what your priorities are.
Well you can literally put your foot to the floor the physics are that bad
@@Cagefighter The graphics from acc or AMS 2?
simple answer as to which one to buy.....BOTH!!! :) In all seriousness though, IF you are only going to get ONE game to race GT3, ACC is the way to go at this point. I love them both though.
ACC is great in it's own right, but If VR is important AMS2 is the one to go with.
I only race in VR so AMS2 for me. This game looks absolutely incredible in vr with a 3080. Would be nice to get Audi and Ferrari licencing but I doubt it will happen...
I agree. With sims I want to come as close as possible to the real thing. VR brings so much more immersion than a flat screen. I really don't want to go back. And AMS2 is amazing in VR!
How do you overcome motion sickness?
@@johnnylin0924 How do you even get motion sickness from that?
A fair-minded and detailed comparison. Good work, Mike. ACC's laser-scanned tracks look second-to-none, although a hefty PC is needed for those lovely graphics. The sim overall shows what can be done when a developer focuses on a specific motorsport series. As AMS2 continues to improve, its wide-ranging content should attract those who want more variety. The two sims make a good pairing.
Thanks so much Stephen! I really appreciate your support man
Well... after DD wheel, pedals and rig to mount the stuff on. Just buy both and compare cars, tracks and road yourself, it's one of the fun things to do. In the end you'll have them all for different reasons. Just don't waste your cash on Project cars 3. If you want a bill every month I racing ( I've bought it and cancelled the service).
I don't play in VR, but for me Automobilista 2
rare breed
wow thats rare and honest
I don't get the comparison tbh. Ams2 has like 4 or 5 GT cars. But if you have a weak ass pc like me, choose AMS 2.
Haven't touched ACC for months, because Raceroom ranked online races is where it's at!
Definitely agree re RaceRoom ranked!
It's really kind of annoying that GT3/GT4 racing is so popular. Don't get me wrong, I like it, but it seems like now most people shy away from cars that are more difficult to drive because they are so used to super forgiving GT cars. I prefer cars that will bite your face off if you get a little to comfortable, so I'm really enjoying the Sauber C9 in AMS2 right now. LOL!
I love ACC but really can't get on with AMS 2. Just keep testing it after its supposedly had a massive amazing update that fixes everything and it still feels off. Maybe I'm spoilt by ACC. Good comparison though Mike
Try Christians ffb on ams2 works great
To me ACC has much more depth i.e. detail in the cars and tracks. I have both sims , but find ACC makes you think more when driving where as AMS2 is more for fun. Although The BMW pro car in AMS2 is fantastic. I only use VR for both and AMS2 is easier on the eye, however i have got use to ACC VR , so its not really a problem for me. I have a 1080ti and a 6700k and both games are very playable
Nice! I’m jealous of you running VR in ACC. My 6800 XT can’t handle it beyond hotlapping
I got the 1080ti and I struggle to find the correct graphic settings for ACC in the Quest 2 . Would you please share your tricks and tips?
@@SimRacing604 That's odd. You should. Are you sure you're not just trying to run max graphics on high resolutions?
I think acc is playable with my 1070 in vr. Of course not lots of eye candy and with asw enabled but still good enough. Been waiting for my 3080 for about 4 months now :/
ams 2 is currently 19 bucks on steam in germany. dont know about other countries but thats something to behold.
Yeah, 19 bucks is nothing but it comes down to that price a number of times a year - now it's Easter, so it's down again. No one buys at full price.
But it's basically a half-finished game ripped from pc2 with inferior GT cars and limited and/or sketchy other cars, so I'm not buying.
I just got AMS2 a couple of weeks ago, so I haven't tried a lot of the cars yet. But I do agree, you have to really watch the gas mid-turn. Really likes to whip around on you. Havent tried VR in it yet. But I do prefer ACC a little bit. I jump around from sim to sim though. I mainly play ACC (for the driving) and RaceRoom for the content (I paid for a bunch of stuff, feel obligated to use it :) ) But I like the variety of tracks and cars. I have Rf2 as well and use that to replicate IMSA racing as close as I can.
What are the player counts online? for AMS2? I have raceroom too and use VR in it, and have you yet tried VR in AMS2?
The first AC. And mod it like crazy.
If you dial in the FFB , and use VR then AMS2 hands down plus, it's getting better after each update.
Just get them both, and RF2. They all eventually go on sale on steam, just grab them when the price is right.
I suggest trying both... you can refund if not happy. I own both, and enjoy them for different reasons. AMS2 is so easy to jump into and have fun, and the FFB on my ancient Fanatec CSR wheel is outstanding. Conversely, the lack of rear end feedback in ACC is hugely frustrating ... I am adding a Buttkicker to my setup for this very reason. If I am in a serious racing mood (i.e. hotlapping), I turn to ACC.
Hard to do. By the time refund deadline is over, you're still not done tweaking the settings.
This video was a bit odd to me. Maybe its just your title. It should be "Which One Should I Buy for GT content?" - Competizione vs Automobilista 2.
This video was almost entirely about GT and had barely anything to do with AMS vs ACC.
AMS - has insane amount more cars and tracks, graphics are comparable but the performance of ACC is horrible, so AMS wins as getting ultra with 120fps is easy and VR work way better. Day night is amazing. free cars coming every month as well.
ACC- better FFB and sense of feel, online ranked racing with an entire penalty system. Better depth and quality for the GT classes it has.
As a game if you arent doing ranked GT multiplayer, AMS2 is clearly better. Offers way more for the buck. But yeah if all you care about is GT then easily ACC wins.
He only talks about GT because if you don't like GT cars there is no point even considering ACC so you wouldn't be watching this video.
ACC is entirely focused on GT cars. If you want variety of cars you buy the normal AC or any other sim. ACC does only GT and does it very well. It would be easier just to say:
- If you're only interested in GT racing and want a structured online ranking system, play ACC
- If you want more variety, play AMS 2 or any other sim
I generally agree. My problem with ACC is it's so GPU intensive. I have to really turn it down to get decedent frame rates and trying to race with more than 10 cars on the track simply kill my FPS. AMS2 preforms much much better in that department. Admittedly I currently have a RX 5500 XT which I will upgrade some year in the future when GPU's are actually available. The big downside in AMS2 is car and track handling. To me it's just bad. It's ok in practice and race but switch over to time trial and everything changes. It's junk. I pretty much have all the major sims, they really each have their own positives. RF2 is still my go to.
Ohhhhh yeaaaaa is trueee wtih rain at2 slow frames
I have AMS2 since 2 weeks and the most crucial point I care about in a sim is physics. AMS2 feels so imprecise compared to ACC.
Yep too much like PC2 it's based on, ACC by far
@@valentinofogarty9943 AMS2 for me...love that natural on the edge driving feel. Like Pcars2?...not for me
Yes, ACC is also my fave sim, and VR just annoys me, so its bad implementation into the game isn't a problem either (rFactor 2 takes a close second). Nice comparison, Mike.
Answer: Buy Both
Yup, if you can afford it, both are great
@ziher123 True! There's so many and all are so good!
I have hyperfocus days. I can't really focus on playing one racing game for months, I'm super into certain games then I do something else for a few days. Right now i'm into F1 lol
AMS2 does not even hold a candle to ACC, it is not even in the same league, and likely never will be.
Anyone considering AMS2 would do good to look at rF2 instead, it has just as many cars, more tracks, a hell of a lot of free content, and just about as many people playing online. Even Race Room racing experience is better in many ways than AMS2.
No idea why they added GT3s in AMS2, massive amount of content already, and still far too many glitches to be concerning themselves with trying to compete against a sim they will never even touch.
Before anyone wants to jump in and say something stupid like "but AMS2 has not been out long, takes time to fix the bugs you know...." Sure it does, no doubt, but this has been out for close to 12 months now, these guys didn't start from scratch with this, and they still to this day seem to be prioritising pointless additional content over fixing the issues or even adding a useful ranking system. As a result, majority of the very few available online races are just a total mess.
If they spent as much time fixing the glitches and terrible net coding in AMS2 it might just be a great sim, but so far they don't seem to be doing much with it, and consequently hardly anyone seems to be playing it online.
The VR might run better in AMS2, but the visuals are pretty ordinary in comparison, and if you set it up correctly in ACC there is nothing wrong with how it runs, at least on a Pimax 8K X or Pimax 5K+, (using a 2080Ti and a 2060 respectively), no idea how other headsets hold up, but given that they all have significantly less FOV and hence, a lot lower per eye resolution, i can't imagine the other headsets would be any worse for overall performance.
I'd rather have "ordinary" visuals than the blurry mess that's seen in ACC.
You have those ordinary visuals and a bodgy glitchy game then, i'll stick with the razor sharp image ACC gives in VR when you bother to set it up correctly instead of leaving conflicting settings.
@@CaseTheCorvetteMan please do direct me to these settings. Searched high and lo
I have a list of things to change in the comment directly below this one ;)
Just look at bland track textures in AMS2 as if created using generic procedural texture or something like race track builder. ACC clearly shows a separation of the racing line from the less used trackside. IMO this variation in roughness adds a lot to the feeling of speed vs floating. Someone should request Reiza to update this with a big patch.
I have the same opinion about the two sims! Automobilista 2 is good, but ACC is in this circuit better!
I’d love to love ACC but the FFB just does not feel like I expect it to. Literally no feel. Have this problem on my T300 but also on my CSL Elite. Tried many changes in FFB settings and wheel settings. It’s the only thing holding me back from playing it..
If u only care about GT3 ACC if you want more variety of cars (especially some quirky ones) go for AMS 2
Great job with a thoughtful video as usual with Mike... from my side ACC is also missing different track layouts. Yes, I know the championships that ACC simulates only use those particular layouts, but they are missing a trick that would add more variety to those that just to play for fun. I love Donington, but prefer the National layout, it’s more natural and flowing without the Melbourne loop. Donington exists in both sims (as a £12 DLC for ACC, free with AMS2), but only AMS has the National layout.
AMS2 if you want more arcadey vibe with a ton of cars
ACC if you want serious GT3/4 racing
I have to disagree. I watch A LOT of GT3 racing. Watching pedal cams on the real car shows so much input. I feel like you can just smash the gas always on ACC. To each their own. ACC is by far the more polished of the 2 but AMS2 is unforgiving with throttle input
Wow, I'm surprised this is a question in the first place, much less a common one!!
Just hate how unreal engine games look, ams2 looks much sharper and cleaner, lighting is less cartoony to.
Two words: resolution scaling
@@SoloWingX108 explain please, thanks
@@AG-gw2gm Oh, that will be more words. ACC at 1080p is a blurry mess for sure. If one has the hardware, increasing the resolution scaling to a reasonable level makes the sim look much sharper. With this setting you are basically supersampling. I am running it at 120 resolution scale (so 20 % higher resolution downsampled to 1080p).
hmm im running at 1440p ultra, and i have tried adding radeon image sharpening to but im just not happy with it. Ams2 in comparison looks lovely.
@@TheTriggerfinger999 AMD Image Sharpening is a completely different thing. Ultra does not help with blurriness. If you use in-game sharpening, make sure to enable advanced sharpen filter, it helps in movement. And try to increase that resolution scale if your GPU allows. It will not be AMS2 sharp, but it can be better. That's the problem with TAA.
I haven’t seen you post anything new in ACC, has AMS2 surpassed your original thoughts based on this video?
What do you mean witch one. You should get them both. Absolutely love them both and can't live without one.
Ams2 after recent updates is wonderful, ffb is finally very pleasant and natural. AI is a bit worse than rf2 but much better than ACC.
For full happiness I miss bigger grid, custom championship with many settings possible.
I haven't had such a long break from rf2 for a long time. ;)
I basically own every Sim title... well not PC3, bought it and got refunded within 2hrs. Concerning these 2 titles, my answer would be: None of them. One has a horribly unfitting graphics engine and weirdest over-the-top FFB (yet a solid physics engine), the other a wanna-be-believable FFB with a crappy underlying physics engine (yes, I can drift to a turn with a F3 like in a rally car on gravel, but do I want that??).
So better get your hands on AC1, rFactor2, R3E or iRacing.
So if I want to run a variety of classes what is better, Automobilista2, original Assetto Corsa with various mods or iRacing? Assuming cost is not an issue.
I've had ACC for about one year & I've had AMS2 for about 1 month. Well Mike ...you couldn't have picked two Sims that are harder to make a decision on. I'm a man that always had favorites ...but in this case ...they offer different flavors & do it so well that it is not easy to decide. So I'm just gonna love BOTH of 'em for now.
Some good forecasting of AMS2 I just bought both cause why not lol
The answer is simple: rFactor 2 :-D
Now seriously, I have tried and tried and tried and I simply can't get any decent driving feel out of AMS2. None whatsoever, even with custom FFB files... The cars seem to have no rolling feel (inertia is poorly simulated) and they move unnaturally, with an exaggerated yaw movement as their only point of contact with the track was the dead centre of the car and not the 4 points where the wheels are.
On the other hand, ACC is indeed limited in its contents, but on the GT level, it's simply a no contest as it is the most accurate and lifelike GT experience in the market.
Now... back to rFactor2: if you are able to overcome the inconveniences which this game has - committing to playing it is like being in love with your better half and have the patience to put up with some tantrums - then you will have BOTH an incredible driving feel (second to none) and loads of varied content.
I love the graphics and content of AMS 2, but the force feedback and physics are wack right now. :( I am trying different custom ffb mods to try to fix it, but the driving in ACC is just leaps and bounds better right now. The sad thing is that even wreckfest and beamng.drive have more precise feeling ffb than ams2
Both! They are different enough not to have to choose between them! I would add RF2 and you’ve covered many bases!
Yeah man, totally agree!
AC ,AMS2, Raceroom, thats it. ACC has a lot of engine problems
I have both but I just can't get used to AMS2. For me ACC feels more immersive. Also, for online racing it is a good alternative to iRacing. It's not perfect but has a good base to build on especially if they keep adding series and cars.
''keep adding series and cars.'' but acc has only gt cars, one series only. no thanks......lol
All the VR comments are a bit to much 😂 ACC it’s just fine lately. I’m racing it in VR and absolutely loving it. Finally got the settings right. Most people are playing it in 1080ti or 2070-80 which are poor for vr. Maybe the 2080 super oc will cut it with decent ress scale
I wish there would be comparison between the game play itself, not only graphics.
Well, just came in to say what everyone knows... BOTH!!!!
I just started simracing 2 months ago and my wheel of choice was the T300RS. I am playing both sims just for fun and mostly against AI or just trying to get better pace. I would love to like ACC more, because the overall package is amazing and I love GT3. But I really dont like the FFB in ACC and how the Cars feel, and i tried so many settings or maybe its just me driving bad and getting frustrated, idk. I m about 80 hrs in the game now but i think it took me around 20 hrs to get a 1:51:990 at Monza with the Lexus. In AMS2 after about 10 mins setting up the FFB the Cars feel amazing and I think it took me around 5 Laps to get a low 49 at Monza with the McLaren 720S. I dont even know if its ok to compare the lap times in the 2 sims. Maybe ACC is just too hard for me so right now i would give my thumbs up to AMS2.
Look, if you are a sim racer 99% sure you buy all the games. Compared to wheels and pedals, the games are the cheapest part of the sport. Iracing excluding
Buying the games is the cheapest part of simracing, I bet everyone posting here has both.
Go to Kinguin or Instant Gaming, you can buy both for like 40€ and you can have a blast lol
Does both support track ir ?
Always fun watching ! I notice you dont have a HEAD MOVEMENT add on ? similar to Track IR in turns ... its worth it cuz it changes your view of the Apex ! I think its RHM in AC as an ex.
Anywho, can you tell me how you found the EDIT button assignments in AMS2 ? I notice they have it broiken down in sections - is it easy ? quirky ? I have AMS1 and its nearly unusable assigning buttons. Want AMS2 so I downloaded the demo and it wont recognize my Hardware ? But the menus dotn seem complete in the demo version. I tried asking Reiza ... no luck.
Yeah, I’m not too sure about the AMS2 demo capabilities, but the full game does allow you to map custom inputs
Just downloading ams2.... Hope it Will worak in vr on i7 7700k and rtx 2060 with 32gb ram?
I believe it will work, but whether the performance is at an acceptable level for you remains to be seen. But I think you’ll be good
Im in the process of building a sim rig and I was just asking myself this exact question. Score one for the algorithm.
V1.1.1.3 just hit :)
I already have "the normal" assetto corsa with all cars included, so then competizione is a no brainer right?
Not necessarily, ACC (Assetto Corsa Competizione) and AMS2 (Automobilista 2) are both very good sims. ACC is GT3/GT4 focused, while AMS2 is similar to AC ("normal" Assetto Corsa) in content. If VR is really important to you, AMS2 is more VR friendly than ACC. If multiplayer is very important to you, ACC is more popular. If you can, I would recommend you to get them both. My personal choice is AMS2 because I mainly race in VR and I really like some of its other racing classes.
ACC is in its 3rd year and all they have to do is some GT3 cars. so not surprising they beat AMS2.
Acc FFB for the t300 is so trash that rfactor 2 is the way to go. I have never driven ab2 so I can't attest to that but I try over and over to like acc and I just can't. The cars don't feel right on the limit and just are awkward with rf2 you can send it go hoonigan sideways and be comfortable getting it back. With acc if the back starts to go its like I racing its see ya lataaaa
I'd go with ACC as well, love almost everything about it. The online racing is also a paradise for me:)
Sometimes you just got to go for it and this is one of them so just buy them both, they each have their strengths and I race them both regularly so I have already got my money’s worth out of them both.
U ever try iracing??
I like ACC and its the way to go if you want the full GT3 experience, unfortunately my PC isn't the greatest so I have to run much lower graphic settings for it to run smoothly whereas I have no problem running AMS2 on max.
On the whole I think ACC is a more consistent experience most cars are pretty good fun to drive whereas there are a lot of cars in AMS2 I don't really enjoy that said however with the right car/track combo AMS2 can be a hugely more enjoyable game, I could drive the Porsche GT3, Copa Montana, GT1s or the Brazilian stock cars in that game for hours against AI and not get bored and as soon as the custom championships get implemented I think it will be the one I spend the most time in.
I rotate playing rfactor 2, ams2 and acc comp. The more I play ACC the more I truly enjoy the driving experience. The sound is def superior to the other sim games.
ACC for me, I have AMS2 as well and don't play it. Too much like PC2
ACC has much better sounds and the GT3 cars are superior.
AMS2 has the best VR of all sims, (ACC is terrible in VR). AMS2 has superior FFB, huge variation of cars and tracks.. including the legendary Nordschleife.
In Dec 2021:
For flat-screen GT3 racing go for ACC.
For everything else (especially VR!) AMS2 is for you.
Well i like acc but the ffb doest provide much Information. Only drivable with a (in my case) with a buttkicker where you can bind for example wheel slip etc.. Regarding AMS2 there is a lot of work ahead of reiza
ACC looks like made of clay and stutters on every graphics setup. The best one for PC is still the first AC, not competizione. Automobilista as a simulator reminds me of Project Cars, so more arcade-ish, but just like PC it runs smooth on my PC and ACC doesn't. Like I already said unreal engine is pretty strange at least for racing games, everything looks like clay and it stutters. Fix this and ACC will be the best (that is if you only like 1 type of cars).
After all the work and updates AMS2 made ... try it. ACC and RaceRoom are nice, but it allways feels driving on "ice" ... AMS2 has a real grip feeling .. iRacing is only for spending endless money .. 😉 all my opinion ☺️👍👋🇨🇭.
#1 RF2 #2 AMS2 #3 AC #4 ACC don't own iracing so not sure where it slots in. I'd recommend buying all 4 if on sale. But RF2 is for me the best of the group hands down.
My order would be different, but I agree with buying all four if you can. Each has their own strengths. Thanks for watching!
hmm. i definitely disagree here.
appreciate the vid, as always.
heres to end of 2021 re-comparison; when there becomes zero doubt in peoples minds- reiza & madness is the perfect formula. let them cook a bit more ;)
Both. But honestly I have more fun with AMS2. im not much for compromise I have all the sims and all the tracks
My biggest complaint with acc lately has been that I keep get the “greater than 99% cpu usage” error which causes constant freezes.
That was an issue I had with the original Assetto Corsa as well. I think the only way around it is to turn down the number of cars you have on track in AI races. I've never had it in multiplayer, so if you are having it there, not sure what to do.
Ams2 all day , I love acc but it falls short now ams2 has been updated many times , I use custom ffb I had on project cars 2 and it’s far better than acc (not in every car) mind you . Christians pure ffb is great
Agreed! I love Cristians FFB. Thanks for watching
@@SimRacing604 process lasso helps massively for FPS ruclips.net/video/NFhsz862n2c/видео.html use these settings basically as a good starting point, I was getting a good 30fps on acc extra in4k max setting everything, from around 120fps straight to 150fps upto 180fps at times on certain tracks
200fps on ams2 full max at 4096 × 2160
I was fully on the acc side myself until a month or so ago for sure but I’ve totally changed my mind 😂
Buy them both because they're extremely well made sims made by very talented developers. Lots of fun to be had.
AMS2 handling and physics are a little funky and out of whack. Only a few cars that they have dialed in so far. They are fighting a battle against a lousy sim racing engine. The sim still needs a lot of work, but the future looks bright!
No, they market a sim with 50 cars or whatever and only fix half, they continue this with dlc and we have to pay to play down the line.
It could be 12 months or more before most cars drive properly and that assumes they fix the exaggerated throttle response that ruins some cars.
I dont know why the dont used the old and very very good ffb of automobilista 1? Automobilista 1 was so much better in terms of ffb and feeling of the car and road.....
I've stopped playing AMS2 because after every update you have to reset setting on wheel or cars behave differently or all weirdness so you can't get to enjoy it because next time you play it it will be different. Constant physics updates, constant ffb updates. When they finally decide what they want from it I might try it again.
Yeah, fair enough. I’d advise firing it up every few months. Their progress on several fronts has been impressive
@@SimRacing604 that's what I'm doing with ams2 at the moment. ACC use to be the game I played every couple of months when it was in its early stages...it's now my go to sim, can't even play iracing anymore either
I own both. Both great sims, AMS2 has more content in cars department, ACC has more famous tracks, AMS2 demands less powerful PC.
So, I'm not the only one. Even though I love the Brazilian stock car.
Modded AC is still the best bang for the buck in my opinion.
While I enjoy and respect class-specific sims, ACC's lack of content is not appealing to many and the team behind Automobilista 2 have to find their way around many issues and limitations from the PCARS engine it uses thanks to SMS's habit of leaving every project unpolished and unfinished.
For that reason I have refused to purchase anything SMS/WMD related again, Automobilista 2 included. SMS have dropped support for what could have been some of the best games and simulations over many years to come shortly after release too many times to be trusted.
You really make a compelling argument for both sims. I have recently been doing weekly races on SRS using ACC and I must say that it is pretty good. It looks and sounds excellent although it is a bit more taxing on my PC when using epic settings. I've only just gotten AMS2 and I haven't had time to put it through its paces as yet, but I can't wait to get at it.
Despite the fact that I purchase both game i choose AMS 2 because my device can actually run it, unlike ACC, wich in lowest setting my device cant run.
ACC looks great but with my G920 wheel I can't feel the car. With AMS I can feel when it is stepping out easier and makes for a better experience for me.
Hi I have a G29. So you recommend AMS 2?
As a console player since I got the xbox series x acc is hands down the best racing game out there IMO
The other obvious matter is that ACC is much better for multi player (has much more going on) and AMS 2 is better in single player vs AI (the AI are more exciting to race against and don't boot you off the track for no reason).
FFB sux in acc so its AMS2 for me.
I use VR so went with AMS2, once i got FFB setup right the rest has been a breeze
Awesome! I’m a fan too
The side by side in your 1st few minutes shows the weird Bouncy McBounce Bounce movement in AMS 2 compared to ACC pretty well. I just can't get past that.
FFS, THE BOUNCY MCBOUNCE FEELING HAS IMPROVED, BEFORE IT WAS A DOUBLE QUARTER POUNDER MCBOUNCE WITH EXTRA PICKLES, NOW THEY'VE DUMPED PICKLES AND REDUCED IT TO A SINGLE PATEE MCBOUNCE WITH LESS BOUNCE.
GIVE EM 12 MONTHS AND THEY'LL PRODUCE THE BIG MAC.
@@TheKwod WHAT?
Please same a similar comparison between ACC vs AC..... Thanks. 😊✌️
More specifically - AC with latest mods (old dog, new tricks) vs ACC
Both! absolutely buy both. REIZA really deserves it.
ACC is the benchmark, but there is so much love in AMS2 and the guys work so incredibly hard.
Even if you only drive a truck or kart there just for fun, REIZA deserves that AMS2 is a success.
the bounce in am2 though......
if I could choose one game, it wouldnt be either of those especially if I was new to sim racing. I never managed to get ACC FFB to work I dont mean its not good its totally undriveable, its a game I own, but never play. The sound I think is awful, sounds like Ive been rear ended by a truck everytime I change gear and unless youve got a top end PC, the graphics arent great. and I can imagine, you quickly get bored of limited tracks and cars. RF2 is much better although gets quite costly buying DLCs etc and again you need a decent PC to run it. I would recomend Assetto Corsa. I just hope Assetto Corsa 2, is not based on ACC and is an upgraded AC. it runs great on most PCs and if you can think of a car track combo, its available, most of the time for free
No Comment about AI?
Buy Both, when on sale on steam 🤣
Like right now! I bought ACC today, 50 % off! AMS2 is also on sale atm, 20 % off!
Buy Both...ACC for GT3 and AMS2 for everything else...
I don't know man. The FFB and physics modeling in AMS2 is getting really good with the latest patch. I agree that ACC is a better overall GT race weekend experienced, but if I had to pick one based on FFB alone, I might go with AMS2. It's starting to feel a lot like RF2, IMHO.
Easy ACC
New intro?
AMS2 with same PC2 graphics engine, ehmm, no, no way, not with ACC. May be have better VR with AMS2, but that's not everything in virtual racing. The only one that can rival ACC is rF2, and not for much.
buy both!
rain is much better in ams2 though