Dune Part Two - Lady Margot Fenring seduces Feyd-Rautha and tests him with the Gom Jabbar
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
- Lady Margot Fenring & Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen seduction and Gom Jabbar scene
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Casting lea seydoux as lady fenrig was a cheat code she doesn’t even have to use the voice.
She was using the voice on the audience
She was using the voice in this scene
simp
Dude, she's 8-11 years past The Wall and only two years from her 40's; your standards for attraction have been conditioned against youth and fertility and you don't even realize it. Someone has brainwashed you into having a thing for middle-aged crones prone to birthing handicapped children, if capable of birthing at all. Is the desire to penetrate something beautiful all that drives you? Have you no reasoning or sense?
I'm inclined to agree... with her unaltered voice alone, she could ask you to drop dead, and all you could do is ask "where, and how long should the drop be?"
Feyd: what's in the box?
Lady Fenring: pain.
Feyd: *unzips*
One of the longest recorded Gom Jabbar sessions in recent memory...
Well, he has a type.
His degeneracy transcends animalistic instincts 😂
If you listen closely enough you can hear the echo of her using the voice as subtly as she can.
Crazy how many people don‘t notice.
Which is exactly how it should be done
Yeah that's not in the book but it's a great addition.
Yes I liked the subtle sound of her voice changing as she used it 😊 though I suspect she isn’t as powerful and the reverend mother but she is scary powerful in her own way.
@@seanyoung9014omg please why
Out of all the actresses playing Bene Gesserit in the movie, Léa Seydoux seems to have understood their abilities the best. It's hard to convey on film, but The Voice isn't some telepathic superpower, it's simply that they have such a perfect control of the inflection and tone of their voice, as well as what to say and when, that it ends up having a hypnotic effect on people. Every line she utters in this scene, every inflection, is so multilayered and manipulative. This scene is simply brilliant.
Please Why control
And we see what George Lucas took from Frank Herbert
I'd laugh in her face. Surely there are some men in the Duniverse that are as stubborn as I, and can tell BG to fuck right off when they try this crap
@@FEYD-RAUTHA.NA-BARON because that is how the Bene Gesserit believe where real power works - not by brutal force, but by manipulation.
The Bene Gesserit are NEVER the ones who sit on thrones, but the ones who whisper in the ears of the people who sit upon those thrones...
@@Jamhael1please Why
this scene is simultaneously seductive and uneasy, they really nailed the atmospheric tension flawlessly
The music, the costumes, the tension.. how can a scene be thus flawless . Release an extended version immediately
I trust Denis' vision. No need for extra scenes to be added for the sake of it, only to bloat an already long film.
You doing too much
@@XAVR_ yeah, it’s perfect for theater, but I wouldn’t mind a 5 hours R 18 version XD
Yes, please. To a NIN soundtrack 😅@@reydel4720
@@reydel4720rated X Dune
"I Dreamed about you last night"
great work establishing parallels between Fed and Paul
omg i never caught that even though i went to the theater 3 times
Does this mean that Feyd has Presience as well just like Paul? I wonder if he had taken the water of life he would be a complete rival to Paul and possibly be able to defeat him.
@@costco_pizza Without the bene gesserit training feyd would not have been able to survive the water of life I don't think
I thought they only did this test to paul because he was trained as one of them so I was confused why they needed to do it to Feyd.
@@ajgarcia1962The bennegeserit had multiple candidates in various noble families. Both Paul, and Feyd were among them. Funny thing is, Paul was supposed to be a girl, and marry Feyd 😆. So as to produce the Quyxacs Haderach.
The fact that the Bene Gesserit can be both sexy and terrifying at the same time is sending me.
I love how she used the voice here, very persuasive and less intimidating compared to Jessica's and Mohiam's
The voice isn't a spell. It's just "adjusting your tone" to fit whatever would enter the target's subconscious. So sometimes it's spooky dark voices, sometimes it's a seductive voice.
@@zathary564 In the book it was seduction, as she's a married highborn. In the book she also used a "hypnosis" to be able to control Feyd later if the sisterhood needed.
In the book, it is used less as a command, but more as a suggestion, to influence their subjects to act/to think a certain way. I find it similar to "inception," but while the subject is awake, not asleep. I also imagine Jessica using the voice behind the scenes to build Paul's narrative. Not just preaching, but preaching using the voice
@@zathary564 everybody working with people can develop a certain degree of The Voice's use.
@@albertocabezas282why
She didn't lose the control of the situation for a single second... Truly impressive!
Please Why the contrôl
She almost did when she said “pleasant dream I hope”. But she smartly backtracked
I love the subtle way the movie shows the difference between the two Bene Gesserit we see giving the test by the way in which they hold the Gom Jabbar. Reverend Mother Mohiam; curt, severe, and forceful, holds the Jom Jabar tightly in an overhand position. While Lady Margot, soft-spoken and seductive, holds it underhand and gently. But don't be fooled by her mannerisms, the Gom Jabar's sting is just as deadly held with lust as it is held with authority.
I also love how the two command Paul and Feyd. Mohiam is quick, blunt, loud, forceful, and yells "Come here! Kneel!". Margot is slower, seductive, whispers, is much more flattering and personal when she says "come to me".
Mohiam wished to sift out humans.
Margot wanted Harkonnen DNA.
Different goals, different methods.
The ease with which she controls the monster shows how formidable the good lady is.
A seductress of the highest order.
Why she contrôls
They're both monsters. One manipulative, one blunt, both cruel and tyrannical.
@@thisisaname5589please Why manipulative
@@FEYD-RAUTHA.NA-BARONShe is Bene Gesserit. If she wasn’t exerting influence she w be doing her job.
To me, this is the greater demonstration of the abilities and cunning of the Bene Gesserit. From the start, she's in control.
Sometimes I think that she is the reason why he is walking by himself in the hallway in the first place.
Please Why control
If the upcoming HBO show that focuses on the B.G. Sisterhood is even close to this one scene, we are in for some truly epic TV.
The problem is, they can’t. Not in the era of shitty TV we’re in lol
@@luiousy7329 Exactly, the serie is certainly not going to have the quality of the movie, it's just a commercial necessity because the Dune universe is the thing of the moment.
"Put your right hand in the box..."
"Which one?"
Emm. I dont understand, its a joke? Sorry but i really dont understand
@@miriamemanueleforneris3701 You understand.
@@miriamemanueleforneris3701 Box is dirty slang for "vagina."
🤣
Gladly 💦
I feel bad thinking all this Giedi Prime stuff was cooler than the Arrakis stuff
The you would love Berlins techno scene.
Yes the should do move only about harrarkonens. Why is always bad guys portraying so one dementional?
@@DailyShit.where in Berlin besides berghain
Both are awesome, Giedi Prime stuff is just insane. I want a Harkonnen film or TV show damn it.
You do not need to feel bad at all. Remember in the end it was Paul and the Fremen who ended up being the evil ones. I wished Feyd and the Harkonnens won in the end.
1:13 - I absolutely love this part where the fireworks occassionally illuminate her face. There is something haunting, sinister, and seductive about it. It has stayed with me ever since.
2:40 Margot's voice syncopating with Zimmer's soundtrack. Divine. The music was already done in 2021 on the Dune Sketchbook album. Works perfectly here.
Lea Seydoux saying kneel has me feeling what I felt when Cate Blanchett said kneel in Thor.
If I'm not mistaken, this scene is NOT in the book. And it's PERFECT for encapsulating the duality between Feyd-Rautha and Paul. One wants to be the emperor for justice/revenge/pride, one wants to be the emperor for honor/narcissism/lust. Both are hellbent on achieving the same incomparable achievement. And both have/will kill family to get there
It's not. We never see this scene, just hear her and her husband talking about doing it. I wish he'd been in the movie. It's really my only complaint.
@@seanyoung9014 i get how it may have overcomplicated the film for those not invested in, say, the Dune books, but I still think it'd be worth it, and I hope they reveal some deleted scenes someday (I know Denis doesn't like it but I think he'll cave in eventually)
@@seanyoung9014character mashing
"Yeah, yeah I know the room doesn't look very comfortable, but we could have sex on that thing over there that looks like it came off of the set of Alien."
"Why did you bring me here?!"
"I need you to ask the staff to bring me at least a pillow and some blankets. What Harkonnens sleep on the floor?! And have them bring a Goddamned light! I can't see anything in here!"
Hey we happen to like this aesthetic very much it adds to our presence
I like at the subtle ways the voice is used. I believe the Sardukar general also speaks as if he has the voice. The metaphor being the voice is simply speaking with the confidence to control is really prevalent in this adaptation. I like that Denis is insinuating that no one is having visions, they are just all high on spice and more susceptible to control.
Wtf are you talking about
@@bigguy3636 watch the movie.
Margot Fenring: put your right hand in the box?
Feyd: what's in the box?
Morgot: pleasure.
Puts his hand in the moist box instead
Literally
Know the metal box 😂
Now put your hand in my box
Whats in there
PAIN
@@Morfe02please Why pain
"Giggity"
The only thing unrealistic about this scene is that Lea Seydoux needed to use the voice to extract a man's seed.
Please Why the voice to extract à man's seed
Easily my favourite scene. The fireworks from outside flickering throughout the hallway. The instrumentals as she says "Come. To. Me. Kneel."
It is simply amazing to me that both of these characters were introduced for a short time and yet we could get SO much from them in these scenes.
The fireworks flickering like a lightning storm
Lea Seydoux was incredible.
so captivating and beautiful
@@ViCT0RiA6 The closest thing to a Siren yet shown on screen.
And that's why the bene gesserit are called witches. They'll put a spell on you.
😅😂
You're not wrong.
that is some Nine Inch Nails music video
Booooommmmmm!!!
*3:01* "put your right hand in the box... *AHH! THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT!"*
A Bene Geserit would turn his hand into a suppository if he touched her without permission.
If he wasn't the Na-Baron he might be dead, or the arm smashed so bad he'd never forget it.
If he got to keep the arm after she "taught him the lesson" to not mess with a Bene Geserit. Especially a reverend mother.
The music and the cinematography man.
The moment the music started to play, the scene become very seductively hypnotizing. And her phrase, "come... to... me..." which have perfect timing with the percussion is so satisfying to hear.
Someone need to make somekind of Bene Gesserit MV with this scene as the opening, it will be so cool
I love her use of the voice here, not like a club but more of a….covert suggestion, he appears aware of it but is unable to resist 😅
1:30 the "conversation" from here on is telepathic. Freaky!
no, she is using the voice and confusing him
@@Joanbueller007 There's no lip movement at that time stamp, yet we here here speak
The bene gesserit aren’t telepathic
Please Why télépathic
Why does Jessica say to reverend mother "you should have believed" in her mind ?@@burntnorton8841
There are _very_ few movies where you can safely say there isn't a single weak link in the cast, and this is definitely one of them.
Léa Seydoux brings her A-Game even for only three short scenes, and with the great direction and atmosphere they turn what would have otherwise been a minor, inconsequential cameo into one of the best and most memorable moments in the entire duology.
Walken was the weak link. He was good but not the right casting.
@@StaightJoc He has been walking without rhythm to not attract the worms for more than two decades, no one would have been more fitting for the Golden Lion throne 😂😂😂
Zendaya is definitely the weak link for me. No chemistry with Timothee Chalamet, and doesn't look like an angry fremen warrior who's grown in severe conditions. Everyone else was flawless.
Feyd-Rautha:" What is in the box?".
Lady Margot:' Pain.".
Great Video!
Thankyou.
Feyd: oh well then, i love pain.
"Don't threaten me with a good time"
Feyd: then I'll show my Gom Jabar
@@miriamemanueleforneris3701 "You should've brought more."
For some reason I keep hearing THAT Lonely Island song
Lea Seydoux could get me to do that without even using the voice.
Absolutely flawless cinema. Casting, dialogue, direction, set design, costume, sound design - all 10/10
I wish Paul and Chani had a fraction of this chemistry
“Don’t mock me woman”
Margot: Put your right hand in the box
Feyd: What is in the box ?
Margot: *Pleasure*
Margot: Now put your left hand in MY box
Feyd: What is in your box ?
Margot: *PAIN*
*Unzips
I felt like I was under a spell when I first watched this scene. Truly transported. No other way I can describe it.
This is ART
Well shit thats scary. Most of the movies we see the voice as a blunt object but here...
She definitely used Voice on him.
Can you not hear it
Please Why voices on him
Might of been my favorite scene of the movie. Feyd stole the show with little screen time
Estaba esperando a que alguien lo subiera!
This scene was so good
"Put your right hand in the box" is straight up ASMR.
He got graped lmao
I don't think he did and if he did nobody should be laughing about it.
As a fellow man, I fail to see what's so amusing about one of other brothers being manipulated at gom jabbar-point into suffering excruciating pain then siring a son against his will with a manipulative crone intent on ruling all men in time as a member of the Bene Gesserit. Do you think _you'd_ have a fun time being baby-trapped then manipulated by the woman who baby-trapped you? Have you no pride or empathy? If the situation was reversed and Feyd-Rautha was a woman, would you still be laughing?
@Carmen16_ he did, they mention later on that she is pregnant with his child and "the (blood) line" is secure.
And you can't tell me a woman with that kind of objective wouldn't use the voice to maintain control of a psychotic such as him.
So yeah, it was.
@@lionofwar1802 In the book she seduces him, but she also "hypnosis" him in order to control him if needed at a later date.
She's also a married high born, of the royal court.
In the far future, in a consumistic and brutal society like the harkonnen, Is grape bad?
this may be the best scene in the movie, and the music from hans zimmer. So good
Finally a scene with no sigma music and transitions
He's basically Caligula (at least the version of him written about by those in the Senatorial class), driven mad and infuriated by his surroundings and a malevolent authority figure.
These actors show more chemistry than Paul and Chani
I have to say, Zendaya performance was distasteful, badly written and anticlimatic. Her Chani is annoying
@@fftereJust like every other character Zendaya plays.
even Paul and Jessica have more chemistry
Even Feyd and his Uncle had more chemistry than Paul and Chani 💀
@@HiuchiKiyoko how ironic that we've both mentioned relatives lmao
I like her play on the Voice. Its subtle and barely noticeable. Almost like you're doing it of your own free will. Its sneaky. As opposed to the Reverend Mother who uses it as a command.
"Black is the warmest colour" ⚫
The music the temptation.. this is exactly what I feel like what Eve would have felt in the garden with the apple. Hanz NAILED the music!!
Peak cinematography. Absolutely mesmerizing
This for me was the funniest scene in the film…poor Feyd…on top of the world, confident and thinking he knows it all and absolutely nothing can stop him but in the space of a couple of scenes he gets lead astray in his own palace, gets subjected to the Gom Jabar, then forced into have sex with her and ends up fathering a daughter.
The only thing missing was Gurney jumping out of the shadows to cake face him.
Don’t worry Feyd…I’m sure you ain’t the first this has happened too.
Ask his uncle...
Well, at least my boy still hit.
More or less every mate of the BG.
Does this mean Paul also impregnate Mohiam ? LOL
@53021417 whoa whoa whoa that's his grandma there
Man Count Fenring’s gonna be pissed when he hears about this
More sexual tension and chemistry between Feyd and Margot in ~3 minutes than between Chani and Paul in the whole movie, tbh. The whole sequence is stunningly shot.
Paul and Jessica have even more chemistry than Paul and Chani, strangely enough
They had to cut a lot of their scenes out from Part One because audiences thought that they were in a secret relationship just from the amount of chemistry that Rebecca and Timothée had together
The way she looks at him in Part One when they're changing- how they worry about Alia so much together (coming off like an expecting couple)- how many of Chani's scenes from the book with a romantic context were transferred to her in Part Two - and how she's straight up his de-facto Empress by the end since Irulan is just a political tool- yeah, there's tension, there's undertones, but now we're at OVERtones.
@@PaganMinDNW
Hold on a minute. Is that you, Sigmund Freud?
@@soundwavesuperior28 I wish - but I *have* written 11k+ words in comments about a single Paul/Jessica fic on AO3 that I really liked (the author loving our discussions helped), and I'm writing one of my own at the moment- so maybe I'm not the highest authority on that stuff lol
call me a freak or whatever
@@PaganMinDNW out of curiosity- just. . Why a mother x son relationship?
@soundwavesuperior28 you mean why I wrote 11k words and counting worth of comments on a single fic about them, or why I'm writing a fic about them? could be helpful to clarify
The best scene is the entire film.
Her use of the voice is so subtle, he is aware she is using it but he can’t shake it off. It creeps up on him like a poison
The guards.....??
I love that part
I like how Margot’s version of the Voice has a slightly different modulation in this seduction as opposed to the command version. And I never noticed it before but Feyd is also using a more constant version of the Voice to exert his influence over others (even the Baron), only in this case, it doesn’t work.
Don't you hate it when this happens?
No
I just love everytime Lea Seydoux tells me to come to her
Interesting that Feyd dreams about Margot before they meet, does that imply he's prescient like Paul (who also dreamt about Chani)? It'd explain why their duel in the film is on an equal footing compared to the novel.
Danger, na-Baron! Spurgler Alarm!
Outstanding acting!
Remember, this could be YOUR girlfriend.
Phenomenal acting.
‘Put your right hand in the box.’
That’s what she said. 😂
Elvis would be shocked! All shook up!
he is next riddick
Best scene in a great movie
Feyd, puts the hot in psychotic.
Why psychotic
@@FEYD-RAUTHA.NA-BARON because that's what he was called and labeled in the movie 🎬
@@amycantwell8715 What
@@FEYD-RAUTHA.NA-BARON word
@@amycantwell8715 What would have happened if Margot had touched him with the poisoned needle How would his uncle have reacted if he had learned that his favorite nephew had been poisoned by Margot
The music that starts at 1:58...
Oh man...
Now I wonder if their daughter Marie will have some role in sequel.
She does, a small one, but yeah. Im sure Denis will include it because she is important to Alia, Pauls sister.
And after that Paul almost seduced Feyd-Rautha without even realizing 😄, the moment he killed the Baron. I mean, at least that's how Austin Butler appears to play it XD
The one thing no villain has ever been powerful enough to resist is that Lea Seydussy
Pretty decent ASMR.
I bet Paul would have preferred to have this test instead 😂
Визуальный кайф от каждой секунды фильма!
Omg
OOoOoOoOh man this scene gives me the fvcking willies!
If this is what it is to deal with the Benne Gesserite, then I pity any who cross their path...
😂😂 😅
@@percyweasley9301 What's so funny?
This track goes hard though! 2:08
she never answered the question about the guards.
Please :
What would have happened if Margot had touched him with the poisoned needle How would his uncle have reacted if he had learned that his favorite nephew had been poisoned by Margot
Lady Margot BUT NO COUNT FENNRING WOW BRO
0:48
This Feyd guy looks goofy!
Shut up too
So the Harkonnen's aren't truly wiped out then? The Atredeis line through Paul and whatever child Feyd had?
By the time of Dune Messiah and Children of Dune it doesnt matter - they all die.
SPOILER
Even Brian Herbert retconned this by having the daughter killed
Their 'bloodline' survives but they're not counted as one of the Great Houses anymore
@@timetochronicleyeah, Alia kills the little demon spawn
@@timetochronicle Brian Herbert fanfic doesn’t mean anything so Feyd’s daughter was probably fine.
@@carlbates9110 Well if she's fine she mattered little in everything up to Chapterhouse Dune. There's no mention of a succeeding Harkonnen in anything else except fanfic. Yes, that includes the Dune Encyclopedia, which was also fanfic.
Feyd Rautha was an animal. He would have failed the test if it were administered honestly.
ur not allowed in this section 🤓
Wrong box
What *was* he doing away from the celebrations? That was the one bit I didn’t understand all too well.
Thinking about his imminent appointment as ruler of Arrakis
He mentions in the conversation he dreamt about her, then it is implied his dream was sexual in nature. Then later on while talking to the others, she says he's sexually vulnerable. Now, it's safe to assume with all that info he dreams of the future like Paul and wanted this particular dream to become true which is why he wasn't in his own celebration, wondering the castle alone instead. He was looking for her, looking for the woman in his hot and heavy dream
All I saw was Elvis lol, he totally ruined the illusion for me
Can you imagine the Star Wars writers watching this movie and then thinking of the crap they put out.
W rizz be like
As much as I ignore the plot of this entire scene due to its irrelevancy, it's well done and does have the only good and accurate use of the Voice in the series so far.
It's not an irrelevant scene. Properly understanding Feyd as a counterpart to Paul changes the interpretation of the movie. This scene and the subsequent scene with Lady Margot also helps flesh out the Bene Gesserit breeding program for the movie
@@grottphd9090 for me it is. I honestly was a bit disappointed with how they handled Feyd. It left me feeling sorry for him. I think that going with the original story for the arena scene with the intelligent ruthless Feyd would have been perfect.
As for the mirror, you really don't need one. You get it halfway through the film. Still kind of hoping that Chani at least mutes Jessica in Messiah for what she did in that scene
@@Johnston212 for me this feyd came off as much more of a threat than in the book
In the grand scheme of things this scene won't bring much to the table
I'm not even sure that books mention what happened to their child
Lea Seydoux still oses Bond girl sex appeal!
Why didn't she say "put your right hand in the hole"? It's obviously a hole.
No the box
This scene does not exist in the book. A seduction is alluded to in a conversation between Lady and Count Fenring, but is never depicted. And certainly no Gom Jabbar test.