Hope the video helps today! Do you do any of these things? Are you excited for the Giveaway? Let me know in the comments! The timecodes are below and if this video helped let me know in the comments! If you want to join our growing community check out our other content: bit.ly/JoinTheStreamScheme 🕘Timestamps: 0:00 Video Start 0:22 Introduction - Giveaway! - Video Sponsor 1:37 How I See Streamers EVERY DAY Making These Mistakes. 2:27 You DON'T Deserve Viewers Just Because You Stream! 3:55 The FASTEST Way To Lose Your Lurkers! 6:02 The ONLY Thing WORSE Than Being Overconfident! 7:49 Free Animated Overlays For Download 8:28 MOST Of The Work You Do Won't Help You Grow! 10:15 How To Figure Out What Content Is Helping To Grow Your Average Viewers On Twitch! 10:25 How To Switch Between Games Without Losing Viewers! 12:04 You HAVE To Work HARDER Than ANY Other Creator To Grow On Twitch!
I love my lurkers! And the ones that engage in chat on my streams are really good at taking turns with the chatting which makes the conversations feel really fresh most of the times. I will probably have to work a bit on trying to focus my content a bit more as it is a little all over the place right now while I'm still trying to understand what I like to stream. Thanks for the advice as always. :)
I've been sitting here on the edge of wanting to do this forever. Your videos have opened up a lot of questions that I need to answer and I have not stopped thinking about streaming, I'm just trying to build that confidence to take the next step. Thank you for putting these out as I've made a lot of improvements to my setup with your advice already, and I will also be using this video to do my best to avoid losing viewers.
I’m so sick of these know-it-all RUclipsrs telling me I can’t grow by sitting in a hot tub like Amouranth JUST because I’m a slightly overweight 39 year old dude.
As a person who was a lurker before streaming... Thank you for telling people to stop calling out lurkers... Being called out feels like when you get called for a recitation in class.
I just want to grab some views and a following lol, everyone should be valued and respected. Maybe someone is busy and doesn't have time to chat or wants to just chill and watch? Nothing wrong with lurkin' a bit.
I lurk myself in some streams, lurkers are just as much as a support as an active chatter! I once was a regular viewer on a stream that suddenly started complaining that her chat was not active enough and blaming it on the lurkers. I was so suprised, I mean, the people who are watching you could have picked anyone else but they chose you. Always be thankfull of your lurkers! :)
I just started streaming last month and I was pretty amazed to have even one viewer and I was very grateful lol! I mean, you’re sitting there playing a game and talking about what you’re doing and whatever else and people are watching and listening? Like, what? That’s so awesome.
I started streaming 2 weeks ago. 10 streams in and I levelled up to an affiliate. Which was shocking I didn’t expect it happen too soon. And I had been streaming working on a concept design (ux/ui). I have many lurkers and I remember somebody said that I have many lurkers. I just said “that’s ok to lurk, as long they enjoy what I am doing”. After that a couple of lurkers started talking in chat ❤️
That's awesome to hear I can relate to that totally but I stream on RUclips everyday. I started out with zero viewers in December and now I have 5 to 15 people watching me daily. I thank and appreciate them everyday and can't wait to stream daily!!
I do just chatting segments but my audience knows they can just sit back and let those who want to chat join in. It must be harder when you are smaller and have less viewers! #earlygang
Huh, I honestly thought it was common knowledge to be kind to your lurkers? I always make sure to thank people when they lurk cause even tho they're not talking they may be watching or at the very least have my number up a bit and helping me discover wise. These are amazing tips as usual and imma try to keep these in mind
I’ve grown to never even mention lurkers during stream and never even message them to thank them cause I don’t want to make them uncomfortable knowing that I know/notice they’re lurking. I let the lurkers just lurk, they’re a ghost 😂 Still love them though
@@CozyGen It is fine and good to thank the lurkers as a group for being in your stream, but just not by any of their names, unless they have let you know it's okay.
I have to say that we greatly appreciate all of the videos made for those who are trying to get better each stream. From the tech help (wed cams, audio, microphones), to Thumbnails and titles.. Thank you. It always helps us!
Quit my job to be a content creator on twitch, super terrified going forward after my first 2 weeks now. But your tips really help and its good to know that there's people struggling with the same things you are, and that there are ways to overcome it. Thank you :)
Wait people actually call out lurkers? I never encountered that. Everyone always thanked and appreciated lurkers because they stayed on the channel... Thanks for the video, Eljay. Good tips as always :)
At best, if people use the !lurk command, I just thank them for letting me know they're still hanging out, but then I dont try to engage them directly because they're clearly busy/not wanting to talk lol
@@mokanoki Exactly! I do the same. Goes both ways. When people lurk at my channel I just thank them for letting me know. Also remind them I have "unlurk" command to let me know they're back and ready to chat if they want. And when I lurk I also want to let the streamer know that I am there to support but don't have time to engage. I really don't understand why would people complain about this :D
Your audio is SO important! If your volume is not balanced or super staticky, then your viewership is not going to grow, and people are going to leave quickly. I’ve had so many streams that go below 5 average viewers when I was doing 13 average last stream playing the same game at the same time. Every time, it was some kind of audio issue, whether my game volume was super low, my microphone was super wobbly, or you could hear an obnoxious fan in the background.
I'd like to say a massive thank you! I started streaming a few months ago and it was your videos that helped push me to where I am now, I constantly tell people about your videos and actually gave someone your youtube channel and twitch channel last night as they were feeling down and useless at streaming. It was your small goals scheme that helped me carry on. keep up the good work buddy!
On the subject of “lurkers” nine times out of ten Eljays streams start right as I’m going into work, and I’m lucky enough that I can keep an ear bud in. That being said I often listen to the stream much more than watch it and it’s still one of my favorite streams to tune in to!
This is the nicest comment I’ve ever read, and I’m going to print this and stick it on my wall so if I ever get worried about engagements mid stream, I should remember there are cool and kind people just chilling :)
I can’t tell you how much I love your content. You are incredibly knowledgeable and all the advice you give is definitely some of the most overlooked but important
Thank you for being honest with all these tips. It's nice to hear the bitter truth rather than a sugar coated response like "it's just not your time to shine yet"
Needed this video, my average has been tanking and you hit the nail on the head with almost every point except calling out lurkers which is crazy of people to do. I got away from what was making people want to hang out and tried emulate what the larger creators are doing now, and people stopped hanging out. Now that I've seen this, I'll go back to what was "working" and just try to upload to youtube more. Thanks for the content as always!
Re: Calling out lurkers, I specifically make it a point not to even mention lurkers in my stream, unless someone who's been chatting says "hey man I'm just gonna do some work and lurk for a bit" Then I'll just thank them for hanging out and that mention that lurking is totally fine
I haven't been watching your videos lately to be honest, but this one is amazing, I really dont think you couldve made it any better and I really appreciate all the tips you give in this and it feels kinda good to feel like your bringing your community into your videos more. Keep it up jay! We love having you around!
This past month or so has been technical tutorials and Search based content, the concept was to provide long term sustainability to the channel and bring new viewers in, a lot of people from the community don't watch these but they are important :) Now it is a month of this type of content again! Glad you like the format! #earlygang
Ha! I always tell people they're the jester, not the king. Your videos resonate so hard. I really liked the demographic bits. I'll have to think about that. Thanks!
Why would lurkers upset anyone? They choose to listen to you in their background instead of another streamer or some multimillion dollar HBO show. Lurkings a huge compliment
There are sometimes when I'm lurking and I leave when im called out when I haven't said anything. If I want to talk I'll talk. So I totally agree with this tip
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It’s actually a relief knowing I’m not doing any of these. What are your thoughts on premature focus on monetisation? I see a lot of 9 average viewers streamers with 10000 bits goals or 100 sub goal to die their hair. I feel like this hurts them a lot more than it helps but I have no data to back it up.
It can turn people off but they are mostly setting themselves up to have terrible goals internally. They’ll be disappointed and burn out because Twitch is not good for stable income.
I think your point on not be over confident but at the same time having the confidence to say that what you do is worth watching, is really inspirational. I'm a small streamer online and your videos have helped me think outside the box on a lot of things especially when talking to no viewers in stream. It helps a lot thank you.
Like you, been studying a ton of marketing over the past few years. Im getting a fellow Funnel Hacker vibe the more I watch your videos. Thanks for the tips and value, as always.
Hey man, thank you so much for all of the videos, really informative and helpful....honestly confidence is probably my biggest issues, it’s something that I have struggled with in the past, but I feel that streaming is helping me get passed it.
a video on chat interaction, especially what that should look like at different sizes of chat would be great! I've found that what I can do with 3-5 active chatters is very different to 20 lurkers or 1 or 2 very engaged people. It would be good to have strategies to be flexible around that kind of thing. My main genres are talk show & podcast or maker and crafting, with only occasional video games/ttrpgs
Oh I totally understand! I always go from the concept of, "These are for people trying to make this a career" but if it helps others as well that is great!
Whew, I admit when people started saying "stop calling out lurkers" I got a bit nervous because I've been giving thanks to people who have been lurking (in general - y'know, thanks for watching). Thankfully what you mean is creeping on the viewer list and calls out the specific person and ask why they aren't chatting.
I’m glad you pointed out the lurker thing! It’s a pet peeve of mine. There were streamers (friends) that I liked to listen to while I’m doing stuff, or just wanted to lurk to give them an extra view but then THEY ADDED A BOT THAT CALLS PEOPLE OUT WHEN PEOPLE JOIN THE STREAM. And they’d try to start a conversation with me when I’d show up so I stopped going into their streams.
I've been thinking about streaming for a while. When I saw your channel, I saw every video I could. It's pure gold! Every tip is useful! Keep up the great quality!
I never understood why people call out lurkers. Not all viewers will want to interact, some people just want to watch and relax, or have the stream playing in the background. Hell, I do that myself, getting called out for lurking would just turn me off from that creator
The late and great reckful once said ; "Success is initially about creativity and eventually about consistency". The start is always going to require the most effort, but if you can break that ceiling then its only up from there until you hit the next ceiling x)
I really appreciate what you do here. I've been struggling as a very small streamer trying to figure out what's best for me and my channel growth. It's tough trying to figure out who I want to be and what I can do to bring something unique to my audience. Your videos definitely help me want to keep going and really try to make it work
I love it! You need to have confidence that what you're delivering is worth the watch, yet do not be complacent. There is always room for improvement that will shape the future of your stream.
I myself love lurking. I have a !lurk command and I point it out to those who are watching. They aren't required to let me know, but it gives them to opportunity to let me know they'll be there listening but not engaging (friends who watch use it often and watch me play while they cook/bake/etc)
@@5h0wmanX I use Streamlabs OBS, and there is a command section to input and customize things people can toggle in your stream chat. For example, if someone types in '!lurk' in my chat, an automatic message will pop up that says "{Username} is now lurking!" Just lets me know they're listening but not able to type in chat for whatever reason ☺️
That hot tub joke lol.... I've actually green screened myself into a rich person's hot tub setup and it was a hit with my [very] small community.. As a chubby 30 year old (as of tomorrow) I have decided that the shirt will stay on for those scenes..... for now ;) haha... Thanks for the content LJM, I've learned a lot over the past few months
Been following stream scheme tips for a while now and I recently reached affiliate! I have also come to the point where I don't know what content I'm bringing to people. I will start figuring that out and thank you for all the great information these past months.
So so helpful ELJAY!! I can already feel the effects of your tips making a big difference! I rewatch your videos over and over to remind myself and make sure I’m staying on track. Technology is letting me down at the moment but I’m getting there! I’m having so much fun doing it too! Honestly man, thank you!
@@StreamScheme ok I’ll give you 30% of the credit! 😅 Not quite got round to RUclips yet, but I’ll get there! I’m still convinced you’ll make it to 100k by the end of the year 😉😁👍 #earlygang
I'm interested to know the line between pestering lurkers and letting them know they are welcome to chat if they feel comfortable? I'd find a video to help engage chat would be really useful.
"Thanks to the lurkers! I hope you're enjoying it!" is a perfect, "Hey, why don't you guys talk? What are you up to?" is too far hahaha I wouldn't worry too much, you are most likely not pestering, but I will look at adding an entire video about chat engagement!
Lots of good advice here that I plan to take on board! Going away from this video with a lot to think about, and a lot of work to do. Love your work Eljay, and thank you so much for making these videos!
Hey Elj great video as always, just wanna thank you for helping me get started man. I've been streaming a game which didn't suite me for like 2 weeks now, just experimented and switched on to a different game just today. My layouts were sloppy, I wasn't using a Webcam, and I didn't have any bgm set up but still, I was chatting with one of my viewers the whole time, who actually liked watching me play it irrespective of the flaws. Just makes me wanna do more man, once again, thank you so much, more twitch tutorial vids!!
The hardest part is seeing where you can improve, the second hardest part is fixing it all! But you've got this now! :) Good luck! Glad I can help even slightly!
I think the biggest issue I face is playing games I enjoy, and being consistent with games so that I can grow a core audience. I streamed some niche but discoverable indie games however, once I'd finished them, it felt wrong to just switch to another game but if I didn't I'd be somewhat forcing myself to continue a game that I'd seen as complete. Also finding multiple games that I enjoy to stream that are discoverable and are long enough to generate a core viewer is really tough!
I really love your honesty bro, like we need more of this type of content, people need to stop beating around the bush (if they actually want to help others) After watching this video, one would think, yea you know, most of what you explained is self-explanatory (common sense), but what I enjoyed the most was you literally told us to write it down. Straight up, this may have been the biggest part I took from the video. I like to think, yea I'll get to it later, it's not a problem. Wrong. Things start getting put to the back and the next thing you know, I have an avalanche dubbed 'get to it later' and I can't remember that FIRST issue that began the 42 car pile up. SMDH, I know I'm not the only one! So-I'm literally getting a book right now to dedicate just for streaming, content creation, schedule, and technical terms I will have to research when I have the free time, etc. You are like a compass man, giving me a sense of direction, true north. Thank you again, will definitely keep in touch and continue watching your videos. Please continue feeding me!
i quit after 16 years. it was a waste of my energy with constant failures. i tried every imaginable tip in those years, and zero growth. so i guess its not for me. dream crushed
I'm currently watching all of these videos of yours on how to build a community on twitch. I'm honestly getting quite excited watching these videos and I'm planning to start this week. I have one final exam tomorrow and after that it's time to get to work 💪
What about thanking lurkers who are lurking? At the end of my streams I've started thanking those who were engaging and also thanking lurkers for lurking. Still kinda calling them out but I think that's different.
I got my most viewers last night. I got up to 5. Im gonna look into your channel more and and try to improve. It doesn't bother me to change and stream to 0 people or to 5. I have a lot to improve but im excited to grow!
My cat definitely adds to the viewer's experience, especially when she puts her face in the camera. If you have a pet, use the pet! Call them out when they show up in the background. Have them "say goodbye" at the end of your stream.
Streamers hope and hope for viewers to stay put in their stream. Viewers are not thinking the same thing, they have the freedom to leave but the streamers has to stay there. It's kinda sad.
Thank you man for the video, im sure i may be wrong but most of these i feel i have gotten over myself, through trial and error and honestly would have been nice to spot and patch earlier. I do often quote you to my stream team when offering advice of my own as you offer great advice. Glad to see you still making content and being happy man, i keep doing my thing and the feedback is often positive so i feel like im doing the right thing and that makes me happy.
Thanks for the honestly. That's really why I like your videos so much, because you don't see yourself at the top, looking down. You see your own limitations at the moment and adress them the same as you adress what everyone else is doing wrong. I really appreciate that, together with the awesome tips, that helped me and others so much already. Made me see my own limitations and now it's just a matter of time, till we figure out how to tackle the challenge. 💪😀 Looking forward to catch your next stream. ☺️
Every time there is a clip with twitch chat in it, I look to see if I can find my own name, lol. another great video, i think its really underrated and under discussed how much peoples attitudes effect their ability to succeed in general not just streaming, Eljay's right, you can't have a attitude of if only thing X were to happen I would be the best, the way you get good at anything is hardwork, disciple and practice. and that apples to all of life, not just streaming
I always try grab clips with people making jokes or roasting me as easter eggs, so that will improve your chances hahaha It's a tough to have the right mindset, I mess up a lot with my mindsets towards needing to work harder and being intensely critical so it isn't just over confidence, a strange balance honestly!
Thank you for all the information. I will keep that in mind about lurkers, although I don't think I've called any out so far phew. You definitely need a strong mindset with this and yeah stay yourself with your own unique qualities.🌸
Great video. I needed this. Definitely a huge part of this industry is a mental battle and about having the right mindset and truly thinking about your content strategy. :)
I would really really love to see a whole video on how to engage lurkers in a way that isn't off-putting or won't scare them off! I'd like them to know how to let them know they're welcome and that I'd love to chat with them that I'm friendly and they're welcome to talk but without calling them out and making them feel uncomfortable 😅
I've made this mistake CONSTANTLY and I learned literally just days ago NOT to do this. Lurkers are important I used to think if they just watch the viewer count wouldn't go up if they didn't watch. So I tried to look at my list and see the viewers and I instead call them out I hint toward them with certain subjects and jokes. I got maybe 2 or 3 comment back with these hints. Encouragement and engagement are important. But as you said "Don't push".
Thanks for a lot of this information. I'm just starting out and it's hard to learn when you don't know what questions to ask (ie. the hell is a channel trailer and how do I make one?). Keep up the content and keep educating :)
This is a great video. A lot of “how to grow an audience” is very obvious whereas this is essentially reminding us that our mindset and the atmosphere we put our channel in is critically important........ also that I need to get a hot tub and make a channel trailer
Something I struggle with is comparing myself to others. I find I lose confidence in myself and spiral. It's somethign I've been working on though. Everyone's journey is different, I know that I provide valuable, funny content and that needs to be enough for me. I've been trying to only compare myself to me and it's honestly made things so much easier. When I do that I can see that in my first month I averaged 2 viewers and one of those was an alt-account of mine. Now 6 months I'm averaging 15. Not the fastest growth, but it's my journey. And it's been a fun one.
I’ve been streaming on twitch now since February now and I’ve past 200 followers now. I’ve been watching your videos more so not for growing my channel but to learn about twitch as a whole because I started with knowing absolutely nothing lol and these videos always help me learn something new
If you happen to come across this I also have a question. I stream on my ps4 only option I have at this time, and it has the setting where comments can be displayed on my tv while I’m playing so I can talk to people and play. I have streamelements set up to tell me when someone follows subs or give bits, but I can’t figure out if there is a way to have streamelements tell me when someone redeems channel points for something is that a thing that even can be set up?
I built up to affiliate and beyond by having a small group of friends (some streamers and some not) who would lurk in all my streams. LOVE YOUR LURKERS. Actively thank and be grateful for the people who are watching, whether they chat or not.
Hey Eljay, another great vid. Do you think you might go into more detail on overconfidence at some point? To me confidence is part of the show and I think it can be balanced out with self-deprecating humour, but that's a hard line to walk.
You are fine, Dave! The over-confidence comment is referring to people who believe they don't need to improve or work hard! I see you working hard and improving yourself in discord, and your own stream all the time :) It is the people who believe they are the best and don't need to work as hard as YOU do that I was referring too :)
I don't have a hottub. Should buy one soon before the meta changes, haha. Also, your videos are always helpful and I try to learn from them as much as I can. Keep up the great content and cheers from Hungary!
Today I just did my second stream ever, and wow, I am glad I saw the lurker comment. I never really knew how that felt even when I was lurking, because I was always watching bigger channels where it's actually impossible to even notice there ARE lurkers. Thank you so much for that. I will try to stop even saying the word lurker from this point.
Hope the video helps today! Do you do any of these things? Are you excited for the Giveaway? Let me know in the comments! The timecodes are below and if this video helped let me know in the comments! If you want to join our growing community check out our other content: bit.ly/JoinTheStreamScheme
🕘Timestamps:
0:00 Video Start
0:22 Introduction - Giveaway! - Video Sponsor
1:37 How I See Streamers EVERY DAY Making These Mistakes.
2:27 You DON'T Deserve Viewers Just Because You Stream!
3:55 The FASTEST Way To Lose Your Lurkers!
6:02 The ONLY Thing WORSE Than Being Overconfident!
7:49 Free Animated Overlays For Download
8:28 MOST Of The Work You Do Won't Help You Grow!
10:15 How To Figure Out What Content Is Helping To Grow Your Average Viewers On Twitch!
10:25 How To Switch Between Games Without Losing Viewers!
12:04 You HAVE To Work HARDER Than ANY Other Creator To Grow On Twitch!
Dude,.. just want to thank you, really just thankful for your advice and vote of confidence much, much love
I love my lurkers! And the ones that engage in chat on my streams are really good at taking turns with the chatting which makes the conversations feel really fresh most of the times. I will probably have to work a bit on trying to focus my content a bit more as it is a little all over the place right now while I'm still trying to understand what I like to stream. Thanks for the advice as always. :)
I've been sitting here on the edge of wanting to do this forever. Your videos have opened up a lot of questions that I need to answer and I have not stopped thinking about streaming, I'm just trying to build that confidence to take the next step. Thank you for putting these out as I've made a lot of improvements to my setup with your advice already, and I will also be using this video to do my best to avoid losing viewers.
I’m so sick of these know-it-all RUclipsrs telling me I can’t grow by sitting in a hot tub like Amouranth JUST because I’m a slightly overweight 39 year old dude.
Well... to be fair, I did say you could actually grow by doing that hahahaha #earlygang
what do you mean ''slightly'' :P
I think you could gain a following if you did that tbh.
Have you not see Scary Cheese? You 100% can do this lol
You could "grow" if you also eat while in the hot tub!
As a person who was a lurker before streaming... Thank you for telling people to stop calling out lurkers... Being called out feels like when you get called for a recitation in class.
Hey man, I feel you! I still lurk, and it is just... uncomfortable to be forced out! #earlygang
I lurk a lot, mainly for support. People should appreciate lurks more lol
@@crimson9641 true. So many people have reached partner and affiliate thanks to lurkers. Lol.
@@Runehound that’s how I’m affiliate XD. 15 lurkers from a raid of 64, who showed their support to me. Can’t thank them enough
I just want to grab some views and a following lol, everyone should be valued and respected. Maybe someone is busy and doesn't have time to chat or wants to just chill and watch? Nothing wrong with lurkin' a bit.
"You own a Hottub?" Well played sir
Just a cheeky joke, hope it got a giggle hahaha #earlygang
Super lol
@@StreamScheme totaly did ^^
Please explain it to me lol
@@larrikinBTW really? lol
I lurk myself in some streams, lurkers are just as much as a support as an active chatter! I once was a regular viewer on a stream that suddenly started complaining that her chat was not active enough and blaming it on the lurkers. I was so suprised, I mean, the people who are watching you could have picked anyone else but they chose you. Always be thankfull of your lurkers! :)
One Billion Percent This! Yes!
I always try to encourage my viewers to chat a little, but I’m fine with lurkers.
Those views lead to more views on the platform because someone is actively WATCHING, even when not chatting. That matters too.
I just started streaming last month and I was pretty amazed to have even one viewer and I was very grateful lol! I mean, you’re sitting there playing a game and talking about what you’re doing and whatever else and people are watching and listening? Like, what? That’s so awesome.
I started streaming 2 weeks ago. 10 streams in and I levelled up to an affiliate. Which was shocking I didn’t expect it happen too soon. And I had been streaming working on a concept design (ux/ui). I have many lurkers and I remember somebody said that I have many lurkers. I just said “that’s ok to lurk, as long they enjoy what I am doing”. After that a couple of lurkers started talking in chat ❤️
That's awesome to hear I can relate to that totally but I stream on RUclips everyday. I started out with zero viewers in December and now I have 5 to 15 people watching me daily. I thank and appreciate them everyday and can't wait to stream daily!!
I lurk all the time and being called out sucks, because when streamers do this chatting feels like a chore.
I do just chatting segments but my audience knows they can just sit back and let those who want to chat join in. It must be harder when you are smaller and have less viewers! #earlygang
You should make a video on engaging chat. That would be lit 💬
On it!
Yes that would be great! I’ve had a hard time trying to find ways to include my audience when I talk
Yep it would be great
@@StreamScheme subbed just for this future video! Also because you’re content is the best!
Tbh that would be exhausting.
I do streaming, but I don't know how to fix my mic quality and i just immediately forget to do it as soon as I stop streaming, love that for me!
10:55 “the games i was playing were relaxing”
Dark Souls clip playing in background
"were" .... they aren't anymore hahaha
Huh, I honestly thought it was common knowledge to be kind to your lurkers? I always make sure to thank people when they lurk cause even tho they're not talking they may be watching or at the very least have my number up a bit and helping me discover wise. These are amazing tips as usual and imma try to keep these in mind
Common knowledge for most I hope! But not for everyone sadly! Hope the video helped!
I’ve grown to never even mention lurkers during stream and never even message them to thank them cause I don’t want to make them uncomfortable knowing that I know/notice they’re lurking. I let the lurkers just lurk, they’re a ghost 😂 Still love them though
Same XD
@@CozyGen It is fine and good to thank the lurkers as a group for being in your stream, but just not by any of their names, unless they have let you know it's okay.
I have to say that we greatly appreciate all of the videos made for those who are trying to get better each stream. From the tech help (wed cams, audio, microphones), to Thumbnails and titles.. Thank you. It always helps us!
Quit my job to be a content creator on twitch, super terrified going forward after my first 2 weeks now. But your tips really help and its good to know that there's people struggling with the same things you are, and that there are ways to overcome it.
Thank you :)
How did this go?
Hope it's going well man...
I'm curious how this went as well.
Wait people actually call out lurkers? I never encountered that. Everyone always thanked and appreciated lurkers because they stayed on the channel...
Thanks for the video, Eljay. Good tips as always :)
YES THEY DO! People openly complain about lurkers being not interactive! Like, what?! Hope the video helped! #earlygang
At best, if people use the !lurk command, I just thank them for letting me know they're still hanging out, but then I dont try to engage them directly because they're clearly busy/not wanting to talk lol
@@mokanoki Exactly! I do the same. Goes both ways. When people lurk at my channel I just thank them for letting me know. Also remind them I have "unlurk" command to let me know they're back and ready to chat if they want. And when I lurk I also want to let the streamer know that I am there to support but don't have time to engage. I really don't understand why would people complain about this :D
Calling out lurkers are weird most people appreciate lurkers
I thank my lurkers every stream during and after! Even if it’s 2 viewers that haven’t been chatting!
Never even thought about calling out lurkers, I'm just happy anyone find joy in watching me
Your audio is SO important! If your volume is not balanced or super staticky, then your viewership is not going to grow, and people are going to leave quickly. I’ve had so many streams that go below 5 average viewers when I was doing 13 average last stream playing the same game at the same time. Every time, it was some kind of audio issue, whether my game volume was super low, my microphone was super wobbly, or you could hear an obnoxious fan in the background.
Absolutely! It is why every video I tweak slightly to make my audio better! CRUCIAL in every single way!
I'd like to say a massive thank you! I started streaming a few months ago and it was your videos that helped push me to where I am now, I constantly tell people about your videos and actually gave someone your youtube channel and twitch channel last night as they were feeling down and useless at streaming. It was your small goals scheme that helped me carry on. keep up the good work buddy!
On the subject of “lurkers” nine times out of ten Eljays streams start right as I’m going into work, and I’m lucky enough that I can keep an ear bud in. That being said I often listen to the stream much more than watch it and it’s still one of my favorite streams to tune in to!
This is the nicest comment I’ve ever read, and I’m going to print this and stick it on my wall so if I ever get worried about engagements mid stream, I should remember there are cool and kind people just chilling :)
Absolutely! It’s just such a positive vibe and high energy. Great way to start the day!
I can’t tell you how much I love your content. You are incredibly knowledgeable and all the advice you give is definitely some of the most overlooked but important
Thank you for being honest with all these tips. It's nice to hear the bitter truth rather than a sugar coated response like "it's just not your time to shine yet"
Needed this video, my average has been tanking and you hit the nail on the head with almost every point except calling out lurkers which is crazy of people to do. I got away from what was making people want to hang out and tried emulate what the larger creators are doing now, and people stopped hanging out. Now that I've seen this, I'll go back to what was "working" and just try to upload to youtube more. Thanks for the content as always!
Re: Calling out lurkers, I specifically make it a point not to even mention lurkers in my stream, unless someone who's been chatting says "hey man I'm just gonna do some work and lurk for a bit" Then I'll just thank them for hanging out and that mention that lurking is totally fine
Any time that you say "Let me know in the comments if you want me to do that." Just know, WE ALL WANT YOU TO DO THAT! XD
I know but I need the comments for engagements in the algo hahahaha
@@StreamScheme lol understandable, you got me to comment anyway!
I haven't been watching your videos lately to be honest, but this one is amazing, I really dont think you couldve made it any better and I really appreciate all the tips you give in this and it feels kinda good to feel like your bringing your community into your videos more. Keep it up jay! We love having you around!
This past month or so has been technical tutorials and Search based content, the concept was to provide long term sustainability to the channel and bring new viewers in, a lot of people from the community don't watch these but they are important :)
Now it is a month of this type of content again! Glad you like the format! #earlygang
Ha! I always tell people they're the jester, not the king. Your videos resonate so hard. I really liked the demographic bits. I'll have to think about that. Thanks!
Lurkers are the backbone of twitch!💜
Why would lurkers upset anyone? They choose to listen to you in their background instead of another streamer or some multimillion dollar HBO show.
Lurkings a huge compliment
There are sometimes when I'm lurking and I leave when im called out when I haven't said anything. If I want to talk I'll talk. So I totally agree with this tip
It’s actually a relief knowing I’m not doing any of these.
What are your thoughts on premature focus on monetisation? I see a lot of 9 average viewers streamers with 10000 bits goals or 100 sub goal to die their hair. I feel like this hurts them a lot more than it helps but I have no data to back it up.
It can turn people off but they are mostly setting themselves up to have terrible goals internally.
They’ll be disappointed and burn out because Twitch is not good for stable income.
I can see a noticeable difference in the level of your content over the past couple of months. You are going hard, keep it up!
Hope you enjoy it! Hope it helps! :)
I think your point on not be over confident but at the same time having the confidence to say that what you do is worth watching, is really inspirational. I'm a small streamer online and your videos have helped me think outside the box on a lot of things especially when talking to no viewers in stream. It helps a lot thank you.
I appreciate that! Glad to help even a bit :) #earlygang
Like you, been studying a ton of marketing over the past few years. Im getting a fellow Funnel Hacker vibe the more I watch your videos. Thanks for the tips and value, as always.
Hey man, thank you so much for all of the videos, really informative and helpful....honestly confidence is probably my biggest issues, it’s something that I have struggled with in the past, but I feel that streaming is helping me get passed it.
a video on chat interaction, especially what that should look like at different sizes of chat would be great! I've found that what I can do with 3-5 active chatters is very different to 20 lurkers or 1 or 2 very engaged people. It would be good to have strategies to be flexible around that kind of thing. My main genres are talk show & podcast or maker and crafting, with only occasional video games/ttrpgs
Your videos always give great advice. I personally am not streaming to be successful really so I kinda just do whatever but I love your videos.
Oh I totally understand! I always go from the concept of, "These are for people trying to make this a career" but if it helps others as well that is great!
Whew, I admit when people started saying "stop calling out lurkers" I got a bit nervous because I've been giving thanks to people who have been lurking (in general - y'know, thanks for watching). Thankfully what you mean is creeping on the viewer list and calls out the specific person and ask why they aren't chatting.
Yeah thanking people is fine! :)
I’m glad you pointed out the lurker thing! It’s a pet peeve of mine.
There were streamers (friends) that I liked to listen to while I’m doing stuff, or just wanted to lurk to give them an extra view but then THEY ADDED A BOT THAT CALLS PEOPLE OUT WHEN PEOPLE JOIN THE STREAM. And they’d try to start a conversation with me when I’d show up so I stopped going into their streams.
I've been thinking about streaming for a while. When I saw your channel, I saw every video I could. It's pure gold! Every tip is useful! Keep up the great quality!
Thanks! Glad they are helpful! :) #earlygang
I've been binging your channel! You have such a good mindset and its refreshing to hear someone talk honestly about this kind of thing.
I never understood why people call out lurkers. Not all viewers will want to interact, some people just want to watch and relax, or have the stream playing in the background. Hell, I do that myself, getting called out for lurking would just turn me off from that creator
I lurk 99% of the time in streams, and it is an instant out if someone tries to make me feel bad for that! #earlygang
I missed your stream today dude was busy. Just saw this video now and had the notepad out writing stuff down! Thank you
The late and great reckful once said ; "Success is initially about creativity and eventually about consistency". The start is always going to require the most effort, but if you can break that ceiling then its only up from there until you hit the next ceiling x)
I MUST catch you in stream. This YT content isn’t enough for me anymore. I DO enjoy it tho
I really appreciate what you do here. I've been struggling as a very small streamer trying to figure out what's best for me and my channel growth. It's tough trying to figure out who I want to be and what I can do to bring something unique to my audience. Your videos definitely help me want to keep going and really try to make it work
It is a really hard to nail everything down when starting out, but glad I can help even slightly :) #earlygang
I love it! You need to have confidence that what you're delivering is worth the watch, yet do not be complacent. There is always room for improvement that will shape the future of your stream.
i just started streaming and its really fun to tweak things and make the streams higher and higher quality, youre an insipiration man!
Hope the videos keep helping! :) #earlygang
@@StreamScheme thanks man and i gotta say, im loving the timestamps!
I myself love lurking. I have a !lurk command and I point it out to those who are watching. They aren't required to let me know, but it gives them to opportunity to let me know they'll be there listening but not engaging (friends who watch use it often and watch me play while they cook/bake/etc)
The lurk life is king! #earlygang
What’s a !lurk command? Just wondering, total noob thinking about setting up a stream
@@5h0wmanX I use Streamlabs OBS, and there is a command section to input and customize things people can toggle in your stream chat.
For example, if someone types in '!lurk' in my chat, an automatic message will pop up that says "{Username} is now lurking!"
Just lets me know they're listening but not able to type in chat for whatever reason ☺️
@@mokanoki thanks! Much appreciated ❤️
I love the timing of your videos, everytime I seem to stagnant creatively, you post a video and it gets me going again! Keep it up!
I always appreciate your unique perspective on streaming! I love topics that push me to self analyze what I'm doing and look for ways to improve.
You got this, you don't need to worry at all, Walf ;) #earlygang
@@StreamScheme You're too kind, my king :) #earlygang #notificationclub :D
That hot tub joke lol.... I've actually green screened myself into a rich person's hot tub setup and it was a hit with my [very] small community.. As a chubby 30 year old (as of tomorrow) I have decided that the shirt will stay on for those scenes..... for now ;) haha... Thanks for the content LJM, I've learned a lot over the past few months
Happy birthday! I feel even as a semi fit 26 year old ... I'd also keep the shirt on! hahaha #earlygang
@@StreamScheme Thank you for the birthday wishes 😊
Been following stream scheme tips for a while now and I recently reached affiliate! I have also come to the point where I don't know what content I'm bringing to people. I will start figuring that out and thank you for all the great information these past months.
So so helpful ELJAY!!
I can already feel the effects of your tips making a big difference! I rewatch your videos over and over to remind myself and make sure I’m staying on track. Technology is letting me down at the moment but I’m getting there! I’m having so much fun doing it too! Honestly man, thank you!
Sounds like you're growing because of your own hard work! Nothing to do with me! #earlygang
@@StreamScheme ok I’ll give you 30% of the credit! 😅
Not quite got round to RUclips yet, but I’ll get there! I’m still convinced you’ll make it to 100k by the end of the year 😉😁👍 #earlygang
I'm interested to know the line between pestering lurkers and letting them know they are welcome to chat if they feel comfortable? I'd find a video to help engage chat would be really useful.
"Thanks to the lurkers! I hope you're enjoying it!" is a perfect, "Hey, why don't you guys talk? What are you up to?" is too far hahaha
I wouldn't worry too much, you are most likely not pestering, but I will look at adding an entire video about chat engagement!
why own a hot tub when you can just green screen yourself into one! 😏
Because it is so hard to keep manually blowing my own bubbles and putting them on myself hahahaha
Boiiiiiii you better put that Dr. Pepper in the god tier or we finna throw hands 😂
Lots of good advice here that I plan to take on board! Going away from this video with a lot to think about, and a lot of work to do. Love your work Eljay, and thank you so much for making these videos!
Glad it was helpful! :) #earlygang
@4:15 well damn, we escalated to "Unpacking Childhood Trauma" rather quickly
Another amazing vid. Should have been early gang on this but I appreciate the guidance as always!
Yes, please make a video about how to get more chatters. I get an average of 10 viewers but only about 4 chatters
Hey Elj great video as always, just wanna thank you for helping me get started man. I've been streaming a game which didn't suite me for like 2 weeks now, just experimented and switched on to a different game just today. My layouts were sloppy, I wasn't using a Webcam, and I didn't have any bgm set up but still, I was chatting with one of my viewers the whole time, who actually liked watching me play it irrespective of the flaws. Just makes me wanna do more man, once again, thank you so much, more twitch tutorial vids!!
The hardest part is seeing where you can improve, the second hardest part is fixing it all! But you've got this now! :) Good luck! Glad I can help even slightly!
Eljay, thank you for another genuine and well thought out video. You rock!
Awww your content definitely isn't "shit." I've found your videos to be quite helpful. Thank you for all you do, ElJayEm
I think the biggest issue I face is playing games I enjoy, and being consistent with games so that I can grow a core audience. I streamed some niche but discoverable indie games however, once I'd finished them, it felt wrong to just switch to another game but if I didn't I'd be somewhat forcing myself to continue a game that I'd seen as complete. Also finding multiple games that I enjoy to stream that are discoverable and are long enough to generate a core viewer is really tough!
I really love your honesty bro, like we need more of this type of content, people need to stop beating around the bush (if they actually want to help others)
After watching this video, one would think, yea you know, most of what you explained is self-explanatory (common sense), but what I enjoyed the most was you literally told us to write it down. Straight up, this may have been the biggest part I took from the video. I like to think, yea I'll get to it later, it's not a problem. Wrong. Things start getting put to the back and the next thing you know, I have an avalanche dubbed 'get to it later' and I can't remember that FIRST issue that began the 42 car pile up. SMDH, I know I'm not the only one! So-I'm literally getting a book right now to dedicate just for streaming, content creation, schedule, and technical terms I will have to research when I have the free time, etc. You are like a compass man, giving me a sense of direction, true north. Thank you again, will definitely keep in touch and continue watching your videos. Please continue feeding me!
i quit after 16 years. it was a waste of my energy with constant failures. i tried every imaginable tip in those years, and zero growth. so i guess its not for me. dream crushed
I'm currently watching all of these videos of yours on how to build a community on twitch. I'm honestly getting quite excited watching these videos and I'm planning to start this week. I have one final exam tomorrow and after that it's time to get to work 💪
What about thanking lurkers who are lurking? At the end of my streams I've started thanking those who were engaging and also thanking lurkers for lurking. Still kinda calling them out but I think that's different.
That’s fine and a kind way to do it :)
Sorry lurkers 😅 I just wanted to have a word with you... haha thank you stream scheme. I learn more everyday with your videos 👍
I got my most viewers last night. I got up to 5. Im gonna look into your channel more and and try to improve. It doesn't bother me to change and stream to 0 people or to 5. I have a lot to improve but im excited to grow!
My cat definitely adds to the viewer's experience, especially when she puts her face in the camera. If you have a pet, use the pet! Call them out when they show up in the background. Have them "say goodbye" at the end of your stream.
You literally keep me from going insane.
Thank you for your content man
Streamers hope and hope for viewers to stay put in their stream. Viewers are not thinking the same thing, they have the freedom to leave but the streamers has to stay there. It's kinda sad.
Thank you man for the video, im sure i may be wrong but most of these i feel i have gotten over myself, through trial and error and honestly would have been nice to spot and patch earlier. I do often quote you to my stream team when offering advice of my own as you offer great advice.
Glad to see you still making content and being happy man, i keep doing my thing and the feedback is often positive so i feel like im doing the right thing and that makes me happy.
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos!! These are helpful and give a lot to think about and analyze!
Thanks for the honestly.
That's really why I like your videos so much, because you don't see yourself at the top, looking down.
You see your own limitations at the moment and adress them the same as you adress what everyone else is doing wrong.
I really appreciate that, together with the awesome tips, that helped me and others so much already.
Made me see my own limitations and now it's just a matter of time, till we figure out how to tackle the challenge. 💪😀
Looking forward to catch your next stream. ☺️
Always happy to see a new video pop-up
Hope it helps, unbound! Thanks for the support man! :) #earlygang
Every time there is a clip with twitch chat in it, I look to see if I can find my own name, lol. another great video, i think its really underrated and under discussed how much peoples attitudes effect their ability to succeed in general not just streaming, Eljay's right, you can't have a attitude of if only thing X were to happen I would be the best, the way you get good at anything is hardwork, disciple and practice. and that apples to all of life, not just streaming
I always try grab clips with people making jokes or roasting me as easter eggs, so that will improve your chances hahaha
It's a tough to have the right mindset, I mess up a lot with my mindsets towards needing to work harder and being intensely critical so it isn't just over confidence, a strange balance honestly!
Thank you for all the information. I will keep that in mind about lurkers, although I don't think I've called any out so far phew. You definitely need a strong mindset with this and yeah stay yourself with your own unique qualities.🌸
Great video. I needed this. Definitely a huge part of this industry is a mental battle and about having the right mindset and truly thinking about your content strategy. :)
Great helpful tips, as always. Thank you for all you do to help us grow.
ElJay: "The games I was playing were relaxing"
Background footage: DARK SOULS
"were" and "was" were the key words hahahaha Not any more!
I would really really love to see a whole video on how to engage lurkers in a way that isn't off-putting or won't scare them off! I'd like them to know how to let them know they're welcome and that I'd love to chat with them that I'm friendly and they're welcome to talk but without calling them out and making them feel uncomfortable 😅
I've made this mistake CONSTANTLY and I learned literally just days ago NOT to do this. Lurkers are important I used to think if they just watch the viewer count wouldn't go up if they didn't watch. So I tried to look at my list and see the viewers and I instead call them out I hint toward them with certain subjects and jokes. I got maybe 2 or 3 comment back with these hints. Encouragement and engagement are important. But as you said "Don't push".
11:13 I too contemplate how my underwear will affect my stream every day
Thanks for a lot of this information. I'm just starting out and it's hard to learn when you don't know what questions to ask (ie. the hell is a channel trailer and how do I make one?). Keep up the content and keep educating :)
Love your content! Keep up the amazing work. 😊 you're appreciated!!
Thank you! I'll do my best :) #earlygang
This is a great video. A lot of “how to grow an audience” is very obvious whereas this is essentially reminding us that our mindset and the atmosphere we put our channel in is critically important........ also that I need to get a hot tub and make a channel trailer
The vibe you bring is 90% of the reason people come and go :)
@@StreamScheme got it, so 10% is hot tub. You should definitely check out my twitch stream and give me some pointers on which hot tub to buy :)
Something I struggle with is comparing myself to others. I find I lose confidence in myself and spiral. It's somethign I've been working on though. Everyone's journey is different, I know that I provide valuable, funny content and that needs to be enough for me. I've been trying to only compare myself to me and it's honestly made things so much easier. When I do that I can see that in my first month I averaged 2 viewers and one of those was an alt-account of mine. Now 6 months I'm averaging 15. Not the fastest growth, but it's my journey. And it's been a fun one.
I’ve been streaming on twitch now since February now and I’ve past 200 followers now. I’ve been watching your videos more so not for growing my channel but to learn about twitch as a whole because I started with knowing absolutely nothing lol and these videos always help me learn something new
If you happen to come across this I also have a question. I stream on my ps4 only option I have at this time, and it has the setting where comments can be displayed on my tv while I’m playing so I can talk to people and play. I have streamelements set up to tell me when someone follows subs or give bits, but I can’t figure out if there is a way to have streamelements tell me when someone redeems channel points for something is that a thing that even can be set up?
Great tips as always! Still struggling to find my niche but I know that when I do I have all the tools behind me to succeed thanks to you :)
You got this! It takes time and work but you'll find a niche that you like! :) #earlygang
Good stuff. I work 5-2 and watch your vids on my lunch breaks. Motivates me to stream. I appreciate it all
i dont have a hottub but i have a pig who naps in the background lol
A pig is kinda awesome though!
I built up to affiliate and beyond by having a small group of friends (some streamers and some not) who would lurk in all my streams. LOVE YOUR LURKERS. Actively thank and be grateful for the people who are watching, whether they chat or not.
Lurkers are king! #earlygang
Hey Eljay, another great vid. Do you think you might go into more detail on overconfidence at some point? To me confidence is part of the show and I think it can be balanced out with self-deprecating humour, but that's a hard line to walk.
You are fine, Dave! The over-confidence comment is referring to people who believe they don't need to improve or work hard! I see you working hard and improving yourself in discord, and your own stream all the time :)
It is the people who believe they are the best and don't need to work as hard as YOU do that I was referring too :)
Thanks Eljay, that's really nice to hear. :)
The part when you said u were playing relaxing games then it was showing dark souls knowing for sure dark souls is not relaxing lol
That was the joke :)
Man you're so humble and really nail down some great points about growing and perspective, definitely subbing. ;)
I don't have a hottub. Should buy one soon before the meta changes, haha.
Also, your videos are always helpful and I try to learn from them as much as I can. Keep up the great content and cheers from Hungary!
Glad you like them! Thanks for the kind words, Bear! #earlygang
Today I just did my second stream ever, and wow, I am glad I saw the lurker comment. I never really knew how that felt even when I was lurking, because I was always watching bigger channels where it's actually impossible to even notice there ARE lurkers.
Thank you so much for that. I will try to stop even saying the word lurker from this point.
Thanks for all you tips and tricks in streaming! I was on the brink of quitting but you pulled me back up! Thanks a lot man!
Cheers for the vids mate
Keep it up! Sounds like your smashing it AND all because of your own hard work! #earlygang