Regarding the tiger and shark contradiction: Since Oda did not specify which type of shark Zoro is, he could very well be a Tigershark.The theory lives on! (not)
Yep bs... except for the tiger shark part. If zoro was a shark, it would be the one that aimlessly wanders the sea eating (fighting) what ever catches his interest. Even if you shouldnt in the first place.
Maybe he isn't loyal but he came to terms with the fact that he could never make his way to a marine base to deliver the other straw hats thanks to his horrible navigation skills.
@@LibertyDinoHim trying to get the crew to a marine base to capture them and failing because of his navigation "skills" for the whole adventure is too funny.
I cannot agree with you more. *But* One Piece has NEVER done the forced-to-fight-your-friends trope. And that's really strange considering how important the relationships between the strawhats is. The closest we got was the shadow zombies on Thriller Bark. I think it would make a lot of sense if someone like Imu has the power to straight up mind control people without immense haki. It would be a super simple explanation as to how they have stayed in power: You'd need an army to even get to them, and if you do - you'll get killed by your own army. So my prediction is that Luffy, Zoro, Sanji & Jinbei will be forced to fight the rest of the strawhats - which is honestly a pretty cool. Like, *how* do you even defeat Robin without hurting her?
my crazy theory on Zoro's eye is that it's just an aesthetic decision on the part of Oda to make the character look cooler. He didn't even bother to make an in-world excuse because it doesn't matter
My crazy theory is that it wasn't Oda s decision. But Zoro himself and Oda is just humoring Zoro by drawing him that way. Oda has said that his characters control the story. Not him. So clearly he means it literally.
I think his eye is a part of his training. He spent a bunch of time with his other eye closed & now he is doing the same training for the other eye. Observation haki training lol
Not to be rude but it is legitimately obvious what happened. As payment for training a man who wants to kill him someday, he took one of his eyes to make it a deal.
The crazy thing about Zoro defeating a dragon for the 3rd time, is that it kinda happened when he defeated King, because all the dinosaur DF's are classified as dragons. Yet the theorists decided to double down on Zoro taking down Kaido himself and ended up looking like clowns
Yeah pretty much all the evidence boils down to “Zoro will probably defeat a dragon on wano” which he did do when slicing through King’s magma dragon attack. I hope Oda put all those breadcrumbs out there on purpose just to troll Zoro fans with the magma dragon instead of Kaido himself.
I love that this Grandline Review man has a real life giant Zoro statue, so the video is just about an insane Zoro fan talking about other insane Zoro fans.
Ever since Zoro got a scar from his two years of training under Mihawk, everyone believed he is hiding a special ability he found, mastered and kept it hidden until the time is right to unleash it.
I still think that it will be something - a gag about him sleeping. Just think of the reactions that we would get if it was revealed that Zorro was just half asleep throughout the entire post timeskip. It could even parallel Blackbeard and the "he never sleeps" thing.
Honestly, after the time skip I was theorizing too. Mostly because Oda refuses to show the training arks of the strawhats. But now I am sure it's just an artstyle choice from oda and I like the idea that Mihawks training was so difficult that it was not possible to endure it without some kind of permanent dmg.
I love the bit of “I just need one more piece of evidence to be convinced” “Mr. 1 made claws LIKE A DRAGON” “Hmmmmm” It’s really funny and has a lot of meme potential
Zoro fans seriously don't want to admit that he's really only here to go **clang clang clang** with the second strongest enemy and look cool while doing it.
Idk... I still have hope he loses the one Piece shortly before Luffy finds it for the lulz.😂😂 In other words he just shows up at the treasure hoard before everyone else can find it and then when someone says they know what they are looking for he shows up and reveals he saw that while looking for the bathroom but he just literally cannot lead anyone back to it and they have to find it another way.
Yeah if there's one thing you can count on is that Zoro and Sanji fight the second in command(s) and Luffy beats the main big bad guy because that's kind of the structure
Yeah it was definitely ZKK and “The raid will fail” that made me mentally clock out of the fandom until Wano was over, especially the raid failing. Some people really beat that dead horse for multiple years.
@@21forevergone Atleast Jay understands that agenda is over anything else. Morj's fanboys are something completely different, bring up the RWF theory and they'll swarm and berate you to death. I remember at one point he made a video that Vegapunk is Sanji's mom 😭 Not saying Morj is bad, I've just had very bad experience with his subscribers.
"The raid will fail" was fine before it started because of the logic of the 5 act structure. But the fact that there were still people doubling down well into Onigashima when it was clear that wasn't the plan was just silly lol
As a Zoro-fanboy I must say these theories are ridiculous 😂 no seriously.. we Zoro-fanboys know that Zoro wouldn't even need to trick Luffy and the others since he was already stronger than anyone in the One Piece world combined even before kuina died.
Not yet..... That leaf his master couldn't cut is his ultimate enemy. It's been waiting to make its move this whole time...mark my words...the leaf....the un-cuttable leaf....
I'd like to hear you ranking a bunch of ending theories. What the One Piece turns out to be, what Luffy's true dream is, and how it all comes together in the final chapter.
Funny story: Mehmet pinged literally the entire Morj server with his ZKK manifesto when he finsihed it. I was there that day, and it was... an experience, to say the least
The obsession with numbers is the most insane part to me. Some people rate Oda's forshadowing so highly that they think every single drop of ink is part of a safe code XD
I have seen several polls where people had him 1v1 Big Mom which is wild af The man was said to have scarred Kaido ...... yet did it seem to have any actual impact on him ? Like, it was never even brought up again afterwards and meanwhile it took so much Haki from him that he was just flat out on the ground afterwards. What makes people think he could do what even Law and Kidd together barely managed ???
Also I'd like to imagine that Oda is doing the exact same mental gymnastics, but doesn't really care and is instead leaving just a few crumbs and coincidences in the manga just to troll the entire Zoro fandom
Its great that the One Piece conspiracy theorists are convinced Oda is an epicly masterful planner. I feel like Oda just drop bread crumbs for whatever wild ideas he may or may not get to when he feels like it.
Lmao yeah... Oda is more of a pro improviser. He literally pulled the concept of warlords and the supernovas outta his ass. Pretty sure a lot of plot points were made on the fly... Oda is just really good at connecting them, goes to show he's a great writer!
The irony is that I put in my One Piece group chat that Zoro should be the one to defeat Kaido, without hearing about the ZKK thing til months later. For me it was about him carrying the legacy of Oden and finishing (not killing) kaido with the most legendary Shi-shi son-son using Enma. Imagine the hype. But I also said Oda would never do that cuz main character
9:10 I'm quite certain that Zoro will fight Shiryu but not like you'd think. I think in the ultimate climax the Strawhat grand fleet will collide with the Blackbeard fleet and the Navi/WG at the same time. And there it will be a 3-way battle between Zoro, Shiryu and Fujitora. It is hinted that the invisibility fruit can erase a presence to the point that even observation haki cant register the user, given that Garp let himself get pierced by Shiryu. And I believe that the only counter to that is Fujitora's DF. Let me explain I believe that Fujitora's DF grants him a 7th sense. He can sense the gravitational pull of the things surrounding him, similarly to how Enel used his DF ability to enhance his oantra/observation haki. This way he may be the only person who can perceive Shiryu while he's invisible. And it feels fitting that the invisible (Shiryu), the vision impaired (Zoro) and the fully blind (Fujitora) face off against each other all at once. But that is just my theory.
Cool theory but Garp sensed Shiryu who was about to stab Kobby and intercepted it (chap 1087 page 7). He state later that he was the target (which was also probably true) to reassured Kobby to flee. Shiryu wanted to stab Garp but could'nt by attacking him straight even invisible so he used Kobby as a bait
Garp put himself in the way of the blow. He specifically sought it out to protect Koby. He didn't fail to notice Shiryu. Aside: My phone wants to autocorrect Shiryu to Shitty. That makes me laugh.
@@simon9902 Oh... guess legendary old men just like getting stabbed through the torso in the world of One Piece, huh? I like to believe that it was an educated guess where Shiryu would attack from and that is why Garp suffered a wound instead of actually parrying Shiryu's attack. I mean what would be the point of the invisibility fruit if every user of observation haki can sense him? It must be in some way effective against observation haki. And I do think that Shiryu is at least in the top 4 of the Blackbeard pirates, behind Blackbeard and Kuzan and about at the same level as Burgess.
I have always had a theory on why zoro keeps losing his sense of direction, I think he is attracted/moving towards a certain area maybe Laugh Tale or something/someone important. But sometimes he gets so lost that he starts making circles around the same area while going somewhere, but these have been on islands covered by the ocean which might have made his speacial navigation ability confised.
I really like these kinds of videos. As long as we're all having fun and not being mean-spirited about it, it's fun to explore wild One Piece theories and maybe even more fun to debunk them.
You know what would be great? If after One Piece ends and if grand line review is still going, he just walks over to a tall bookshelf filled with binders and folders of every decently known fan theory and pulls each out and explained why they got debunked. It would be a great final hoo-rah for the theory community lol
Monsters( from what I can tell), occurs in God Valley ( in lieu to similar aesthetics to in Kuma's backstory), therefore renamed Godvalley in the honur of Ryuoma, The God of Swordsmen,and was localised by his followers,who themselves never left Wano.
Yeah it's a shame because I like zoro but his fans put me off his character a bit because they always have to downplay other characters especially sanji to make zoro look better
@stempest7218 as a zoro fan, I'm safe from all this cause my only window to the fandom is through the injection of one piece content into my youtube feed by liam
@@xoooxzzzz5744 I like GL but even he does it every now and again. Like he claims we still haven't seen Zoro go all out despite his fight with King. So even he overhypes Zoro. Also pay attention and you'll see he throws a lot of shade at Sanji like mocking Sanji for not having conquerors which what a lot of Zoro fans do even though Sanji has germa genes and fire powers. Or mocking Sanjis romance with pudding and implying zoro is a real chad.
@@stempest7218 i don’t know how much you read into that but I didn’t get too much of it. Maybe it’s there and I just didn’t really see it. Pretty sure he said zoro didn’t go all out before king but hey, I might be wrong. Also, pretty sure all the sanji teasing is supposed to be jokes (aside from the way sanji behaves to a lot of female characters in one piece which is very much creepy)
@@xoooxzzzz5744 I don't want to paint the picture that GL is just a zoro fanboy I think he makes good content and isn't above making fun of Zoro or other characters but I did notice that he makes fun of Sanji and downplays him alot more then other characters. Like I wouldn't have picked up on it if it wasn't that he teased Sanji much more then other characters and always compares him negatively to Zoro. Also if GL just mocked Sanji being a pervert I wouldn't complain as that is the worst aspect of him but GL usually mocks everything but that while constantly playing up Zoro. Also when talking about Zoros fight with King he says that zoro still hasn't gone all out. So he also over hypes zoro. Not trying to hate on GL I really like his content I'm just pointing out that he does have a bias to Zoro. However compared to most zoro fans GL is far better and fairer.
about the theory of zoro's death in chapter 944, never heard of it, but in the panel in question in his back on the t-shirt is written "ultimo", this is an italian word that means "last" or "last one" opposite of "primo" "first", so if that means something it doesn't look good for our zoro
Every time I see an article with the caption "Oda-sensei is a genius...." I preemptively roll my eyes at the new ways the cringelord side of the fan base came up with embarrassing the whole fan base
lol the moment Zoro is freed in Shells town he attacks marines and tells Luffy “I’ve attacked Marines now, so there’s no turning back, I’m now a criminal”. Literally couldn’t claim Luffy if he tried.
Dawn Dusk has a pretty good theory about Zoro. The owner of the channel is from Japan. They analyze the original Japanese. Many Japanese characters and character combinations are difficult to translate into English. Oda likes to play with words. There are a lot of hints and puns within those Japanese characters. Their theory is that Zoro will have a near death experience where he will meet an underworld deity. The deity will merge with one of his swords turning it black. This brings his Hell/Demon technique name theme into the One Piece world’s realm of reality. There’s obviously more to the theory, but that seems to be the gist of it. I find Dawn Dusk’s analysis and speculations to be very interesting. They’re very careful not to be too specific. Sometimes their knowledge of cultures outside of Japan is a little off, so they may connect dots might need a little tweaking. However, I can’t deny the puns and word play this person finds. Not to mention cultural imagery that anyone outside of Japan probably wouldn’t know existed. How certain words and phrases are written so differently depending on the context. Or breaking down someone’s name or technique reveals certain hints about their ultimate purpose in the story. I really recommend checking out their channel Dawn Dusk.
The thing with techniques though, is that Oda doesn't pay that much attention to them, they ain't named with something specific in mind, as Oda keeps forgetting them and relying on the wiki to remember.
@@azraeldusk2154 That’s true, but I’m not talking about specifics. I’m just talking overall theme. His theme seems to be Hell, demon, or underworld/other world. Dawn Dusk is pointing out that word play suggests that any upgrades to Zoro’s abilities will follow the same pattern. Artistic imagery, like cover art, seems to suggest there’s a connection between Zoro and rivers or other world crossroad mythology. There’s a possibility that pattern in artistic imagery is foreshadowing something to do with a near death experience in the future for Zoro. Considering Zoro’s close relationship with his swords, it’s likely that this near death experience may result in an even deeper spiritual connection between his swordsman spirit and his weapons.
This is the only channel that can make me see the thumbnail thinks its Zebex, read the text on the thumbnail and think its JJK, then read the title and realize it’s Zoro
"Zoro will betray Luffy" You know, usually gatekeeping is BS...but I'm pretty comfortable saying that if you honestly believe Zoro will betray Luffy/the crew, you're not a Zoro fan.
I love how unhinged Liam gets by the end of this video. I've always had a theory that Usopp's Obs. Haki has been so good from a young age that he's just had insane Future Sight, which is why all his lies and stories are becoming true. He saw these futures in his mind-brain, couldn't understand why (because Haki wasn't a thing back then), and just chalked them up to fictional stories he imagined and further told to his friends and loved ones.
Actually the Cowboy phase you refer to may be an actual reference to the Meiji restoration, where Japan picked up many western ideals and industries. or it could just be because the hat was cool and funny, which seems more plausible and should be the explanation for many things in One Piece.
My Zoro theory is that during the month he spent in Wano after the party, he found either the Orochi fruit or the Dragon fruit, and that favpr from Vegapunk from the beginning of Egghead is to put it in his sword
"Zoro is cool and therefore needs to do cool things" - Zoro fans: What about he betrays his friends or dies? Also I think the worst quality of almost any "so and so"-fans are the following: belittling and dissing other characters. If thats the only thing that will make your fav character look good, maybe they arent or you are an idiot....
I like to think Zoro atans are people who haven't actually read the series, they just read the cool zoro pages or complain when they aren't happening. A lot of them genuinely believe he's above Luffy.
What is ironic about the 944 theory is that is wasnt necessarily wrong, but it was just pointed in the wrong direction. It wasn't that Zoro would face death himself, it was that Zoro would have to deal with the death of a friend dying. Thus the whole point of Zoro being chummy with a zombie in color spread, because it symbolized Zoro being friends with a dead man. That man being Yasue because he was going to give his life in the raid anyways, he just happened to die sooner. We see at the end of Onigashima that Zoro visits Yasue's grave with Sake, just like how he was sitting on the grave sharing a drink with the zombie in the color spread. So it would've actually been a great theory if they pivoted to someone else related to Zoro, but not Zoro himself. Oda is a master at foreshadowing, but sometimes the OP community is terrible at picking up what exactly he's foreshadowing.
No, fuck you, just because things arbitrarily lined up doesn't mean it was "foreshadowed". You can twist and mental gymnastics your way to any conclusion you want if you try hard enough
That still assumes this one specific detail in this one specific color spread is a hint to a future plot point, when no other color spread that we know of has done something like that. These theories all assume that One Piece is an intricate puzzle box, planned out by master Goda to the exact chapter, that you can use a formula to mathematically prove when a plot point is supposed to happen. And, like... that's not how this works. That's not how stories work.
@@nathanl8622 Yeah thats true to some sense. At the same this is Oda we're talking about. We have seen him do some decent foreshadowing from like 100 chapters ago. So it's not the far out that Oda had the idea in his mind and decided to add it to Wano to up the stakes. I don't think he meant for it to be exactly at 944, I think that was just lucky timing on his part; but it is still a interesting theory nonetheless.
Zoro fans can be weird. He's already so cool and easy to like, gets tons of epic moments etc and many still aren't happy with it. I'm mostly a Sanji fan but Zoro is one of my favorites and I never felt like he needed...more.
When you realize Oda has become the greatest story teller because he has to constantly rewrite his story to make sure it disproves all the theories and continue surprising his audience.
I mean I'm pretty sure he just does what he wants regardless of the theories. I like to try to guess what Oda's thinking too and while I think I get closer to the mark then most I won't be arrogant enough to think I can predict 100% what he's thinking either. It's not that he's rewritting anything it's just that he's insanely good at connecting things the dots so it feels like it was all planned from the start and we all know he IS good at planning ahead and knowing where he wants to go like hundreds of chapters before he even get's there. So no these theory crafters likely have little influnce on his work.
I think I need someone to explain the Zoro Domain Expansion, Bandai and Mangekyo Sharingan thing. I don’t read the more recent manga (I’m still in the Onigashima raid) so I’m kind of behind
It's because people just makeup that he can do anything with cool sword magic. So for example there's been a theory for years that he has a secret special powerful eye (like the sharingan) after the timeskip and that's why he keeps one eye closed.
"As long as I ignore evidence to the contrary, Zoro will find the One Piece by following directions correctly." -Zoro Theorists
😂😂😂
Oh im sorry zoro will take every direction except to correct one so debunked
The pinnacle of confirmation bias
i thought that was just a meme, people are actually serious about this?
Always liked the theory that why zoro had bad direction is because he's always headed to the one piece
Regarding the tiger and shark contradiction: Since Oda did not specify which type of shark Zoro is, he could very well be a Tigershark.The theory lives on! (not)
Lol 😂
Exactly! 😂
A tiger shark you say?
Could it be that perhaps Zoro is Fisher Tiger all alog and this was the REAL forshadow?!
Yep bs... except for the tiger shark part. If zoro was a shark, it would be the one that aimlessly wanders the sea eating (fighting) what ever catches his interest. Even if you shouldnt in the first place.
Zoro couldn’t be a tiger shark…tiger sharks eat anything they see without any bit of *discrimination*…and we all know that is not Zoro
I just want to say how much I appreciate how you use Bartolomeo to represent unhinged, irrational One Piece fans.
High King of All Fans Bartolomeo
Zoro is by far one of the most loyal ppl I've seen in an anime...
Ain't no way he's gonna betray the strawhats....😅
Oda gonna throw so many plot twists at the end and make it TWOPIECE the madman
Maybe he isn't loyal but he came to terms with the fact that he could never make his way to a marine base to deliver the other straw hats thanks to his horrible navigation skills.
@@LibertyDinoHim trying to get the crew to a marine base to capture them and failing because of his navigation "skills" for the whole adventure is too funny.
I cannot agree with you more. *But* One Piece has NEVER done the forced-to-fight-your-friends trope. And that's really strange considering how important the relationships between the strawhats is. The closest we got was the shadow zombies on Thriller Bark. I think it would make a lot of sense if someone like Imu has the power to straight up mind control people without immense haki. It would be a super simple explanation as to how they have stayed in power: You'd need an army to even get to them, and if you do - you'll get killed by your own army.
So my prediction is that Luffy, Zoro, Sanji & Jinbei will be forced to fight the rest of the strawhats - which is honestly a pretty cool. Like, *how* do you even defeat Robin without hurting her?
@@KiraYoza ☠
my crazy theory on Zoro's eye is that it's just an aesthetic decision on the part of Oda to make the character look cooler. He didn't even bother to make an in-world excuse because it doesn't matter
My crazy theory is that it wasn't Oda s decision. But Zoro himself and Oda is just humoring Zoro by drawing him that way.
Oda has said that his characters control the story. Not him. So clearly he means it literally.
Or because his left eye is closed, Sanjis right eye is covered, mimicking that Zoro is Luffys right hand and sanji his left hand
I think his eye is a part of his training. He spent a bunch of time with his other eye closed & now he is doing the same training for the other eye. Observation haki training lol
@@JaydnM420 right! Something so simple couldn't possibly make sense for zoro of all people.
Not to be rude but it is legitimately obvious what happened. As payment for training a man who wants to kill him someday, he took one of his eyes to make it a deal.
The crazy thing about Zoro defeating a dragon for the 3rd time, is that it kinda happened when he defeated King, because all the dinosaur DF's are classified as dragons. Yet the theorists decided to double down on Zoro taking down Kaido himself and ended up looking like clowns
Yeah pretty much all the evidence boils down to “Zoro will probably defeat a dragon on wano” which he did do when slicing through King’s magma dragon attack. I hope Oda put all those breadcrumbs out there on purpose just to troll Zoro fans with the magma dragon instead of Kaido himself.
I love that this Grandline Review man has a real life giant Zoro statue, so the video is just about an insane Zoro fan talking about other insane Zoro fans.
He didn't put it there, Zoro just got lost
Ever since Zoro got a scar from his two years of training under Mihawk, everyone believed he is hiding a special ability he found, mastered and kept it hidden until the time is right to unleash it.
he's gonna use the secret sharingan to kill blackbeard
I still think that it will be something - a gag about him sleeping. Just think of the reactions that we would get if it was revealed that Zorro was just half asleep throughout the entire post timeskip. It could even parallel Blackbeard and the "he never sleeps" thing.
Hey it could be possible this is one piece after all wacky powers are everywhere
Wouldn't he have used that against kaido or king then? He nearly died in both fights.
I stilll have hope him using that eye at the right time @@Gambler408
Honestly, after the time skip I was theorizing too. Mostly because Oda refuses to show the training arks of the strawhats. But now I am sure it's just an artstyle choice from oda and I like the idea that Mihawks training was so difficult that it was not possible to endure it without some kind of permanent dmg.
I love the bit of
“I just need one more piece of evidence to be convinced”
“Mr. 1 made claws LIKE A DRAGON”
“Hmmmmm”
It’s really funny and has a lot of meme potential
WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!
the perfect fusion of one piece and doctor who. You shall be God pf my new Earth.
You're not just the most entertaining One Piece RUclipsr Liam, but also the most level-headed and down to Earth one too.
Never stop. We need you.
ZKK was a dangerous mix of delusion and overconfidence
Funnily enough if Kaido still lives ZKK also still lives 😅 until Kaido dies 🗡️ ⚔️
bro got lost and learned cursed techniques
Zoro fans seriously don't want to admit that he's really only here to go **clang clang clang** with the second strongest enemy and look cool while doing it.
Fr Dawg 😂
Idk... I still have hope he loses the one Piece shortly before Luffy finds it for the lulz.😂😂
In other words he just shows up at the treasure hoard before everyone else can find it and then when someone says they know what they are looking for he shows up and reveals he saw that while looking for the bathroom but he just literally cannot lead anyone back to it and they have to find it another way.
Zoro fan here and happily admitting that. 😄
Yeah if there's one thing you can count on is that Zoro and Sanji fight the second in command(s) and Luffy beats the main big bad guy because that's kind of the structure
@@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizardwhen did sanji ever beat a second in command?
Yeah it was definitely ZKK and “The raid will fail” that made me mentally clock out of the fandom until Wano was over, especially the raid failing. Some people really beat that dead horse for multiple years.
Haven't watched anything from Morj since. Him and Jay be killing me
@@21forevergone Atleast Jay understands that agenda is over anything else. Morj's fanboys are something completely different, bring up the RWF theory and they'll swarm and berate you to death. I remember at one point he made a video that Vegapunk is Sanji's mom 😭 Not saying Morj is bad, I've just had very bad experience with his subscribers.
That was a funny, entertaining time to be a OP fan I feel lol
Yall way too butthurt over something like thatxdd
"The raid will fail" was fine before it started because of the logic of the 5 act structure. But the fact that there were still people doubling down well into Onigashima when it was clear that wasn't the plan was just silly lol
Can you please tell me what camera you use and how you get such a clear image?
As a Zoro-fanboy I must say these theories are ridiculous 😂
no seriously.. we Zoro-fanboys know that Zoro wouldn't even need to trick Luffy and the others since he was already stronger than anyone in the One Piece world combined even before kuina died.
Exactly lol
I honestly can't see Zoro tricking anyone. He seems too single minded to even know how to do it
@@BrakSplashnot has much as Luffy
@@bcool9272 luffy seems much more of a trickster when it comes to fighting or messing with someone, yeah🤣
Not yet.....
That leaf his master couldn't cut is his ultimate enemy. It's been waiting to make its move this whole time...mark my words...the leaf....the un-cuttable leaf....
“ All both of them “ 😂 I love Liam’s sarcasm
I'd like to hear you ranking a bunch of ending theories. What the One Piece turns out to be, what Luffy's true dream is, and how it all comes together in the final chapter.
Liam is the one sane Zoro fanboy on the planet
I appreciate Liam went as far as wearing a Zoro tshirt and have a green lighting to match the content
"Are you seeing the pattern here? Probably not...and I think that's for the best" 💀
Funny story: Mehmet pinged literally the entire Morj server with his ZKK manifesto when he finsihed it. I was there that day, and it was... an experience, to say the least
"When it comes to three characters, all both of them are incapable of navigating" had me dying (9:33)
i love how this man on the internet explains every theory with a mix of sarcasm and funny talking
The obsession with numbers is the most insane part to me. Some people rate Oda's forshadowing so highly that they think every single drop of ink is part of a safe code XD
I love that Zoro fans are just as lost as he is.
Zoro fans lost all credibility when people were genuinely convinced that he would kill Kaido
For weak reasons at that. Okay maybe not weak but. They sure as hell werent as credible as oden vassals and others. He barely knew yasuie
I have seen several polls where people had him 1v1 Big Mom which is wild af
The man was said to have scarred Kaido ...... yet did it seem to have any actual impact on him ? Like, it was never even brought up again afterwards and meanwhile it took so much Haki from him that he was just flat out on the ground afterwards.
What makes people think he could do what even Law and Kidd together barely managed ???
Just theory pal 😂 zoro haters believed in the theory that shiryu is the wss during the time skip
@@jasonxx9884people can’t live the idea that Mihawk is actually the wss
Well Luffy went from beating a yonko vice captain to beating a yonko. Now Zoro has beaten a yonko vice captain, whats next?
9:35 “all both of them” was fucking hilarious. I clicked like on the video for that one. Christ 😂
Zoro killing Kaido reminds me a lot of the people that thought the Onigashima raid would fail.
"A Museum of Embarrassment" delivery has to be the best possible blow to the theory authors' psyche.
Zoro didn’t even get lost this time. Lobotomy Kaisen has just gotten this crazy.
Also I'd like to imagine that Oda is doing the exact same mental gymnastics, but doesn't really care and is instead leaving just a few crumbs and coincidences in the manga just to troll the entire Zoro fandom
Zoro fans are the conspiracy theorist at the thanksgiving dinner that you just sit and listen to 😭😭
Its great that the One Piece conspiracy theorists are convinced Oda is an epicly masterful planner. I feel like Oda just drop bread crumbs for whatever wild ideas he may or may not get to when he feels like it.
Lmao yeah... Oda is more of a pro improviser. He literally pulled the concept of warlords and the supernovas outta his ass. Pretty sure a lot of plot points were made on the fly... Oda is just really good at connecting them, goes to show he's a great writer!
This is what makes him a genius, the crazy interweaving tapestry of One Piece, stemmed from planning and improv.
Man, being on forums while ZKK was in full blown was just a pain.
Zoro fans proved how stupid they were back with ZKK. That was the point of no return.
nah kol's "old and slow" garp was a point of no return. he compared garp to vergo. you read that right
The irony is that I put in my One Piece group chat that Zoro should be the one to defeat Kaido, without hearing about the ZKK thing til months later.
For me it was about him carrying the legacy of Oden and finishing (not killing) kaido with the most legendary Shi-shi son-son using Enma. Imagine the hype. But I also said Oda would never do that cuz main character
Oda's 'fore-skinning'?
Woah, you might want to pull back there.
As an aside One Piece love was a forum theory aggregator back in the day. They took theories from posters on Arlong Park and Oro Jackson
9:10 I'm quite certain that Zoro will fight Shiryu but not like you'd think. I think in the ultimate climax the Strawhat grand fleet will collide with the Blackbeard fleet and the Navi/WG at the same time. And there it will be a 3-way battle between Zoro, Shiryu and Fujitora. It is hinted that the invisibility fruit can erase a presence to the point that even observation haki cant register the user, given that Garp let himself get pierced by Shiryu. And I believe that the only counter to that is Fujitora's DF. Let me explain
I believe that Fujitora's DF grants him a 7th sense. He can sense the gravitational pull of the things surrounding him, similarly to how Enel used his DF ability to enhance his oantra/observation haki. This way he may be the only person who can perceive Shiryu while he's invisible. And it feels fitting that the invisible (Shiryu), the vision impaired (Zoro) and the fully blind (Fujitora) face off against each other all at once. But that is just my theory.
I always pictured Zoro and Mihawk having their fight when Shiryu gets involved and just one shot out of the way of their fight.😂
Cool theory but Garp sensed Shiryu who was about to stab Kobby and intercepted it (chap 1087 page 7). He state later that he was the target (which was also probably true) to reassured Kobby to flee.
Shiryu wanted to stab Garp but could'nt by attacking him straight even invisible so he used Kobby as a bait
This theory is mad. I also believe there will be a 3-way battle in the final arc, SH vs BB vs WG so your theory sounds cool to me.
Garp put himself in the way of the blow. He specifically sought it out to protect Koby. He didn't fail to notice Shiryu.
Aside: My phone wants to autocorrect Shiryu to Shitty. That makes me laugh.
@@simon9902 Oh... guess legendary old men just like getting stabbed through the torso in the world of One Piece, huh? I like to believe that it was an educated guess where Shiryu would attack from and that is why Garp suffered a wound instead of actually parrying Shiryu's attack. I mean what would be the point of the invisibility fruit if every user of observation haki can sense him? It must be in some way effective against observation haki. And I do think that Shiryu is at least in the top 4 of the Blackbeard pirates, behind Blackbeard and Kuzan and about at the same level as Burgess.
As a writer, it physically hurts whenever a One Piece fan uses the word “Foreshadow”.
Because it is almost always used wrong.
I laughed so freaking hard at these theories. Thank You GLR
Bro the framed theory in the bathroom 😭😭😭 the disrespect is real. Love it!
I have always had a theory on why zoro keeps losing his sense of direction,
I think he is attracted/moving towards a certain area maybe Laugh Tale or something/someone important.
But sometimes he gets so lost that he starts making circles around the same area while going somewhere, but these have been on islands covered by the ocean which might have made his speacial navigation ability confised.
As soon as I heard "betray Luffy", I knew this was about to be wild cause WHAT?!?!
We pushing Zoro agenda with this one 🗣️🔥🗣️💯🗣️💯
They're like a cult saying the aliens are coming and constantly moving the goal post when they don't show up.
I really like these kinds of videos. As long as we're all having fun and not being mean-spirited about it, it's fun to explore wild One Piece theories and maybe even more fun to debunk them.
Mario breaks bricks jinbei uses 5000 brick break or something like that
Your roasts of the Zoro kills Kaido theory were probably the funniest quips I've heard this year. Like perfectly brutal 😂
It's only the third of the year. Funniest quip of the year isn't that much.😂
You know what would be great? If after One Piece ends and if grand line review is still going, he just walks over to a tall bookshelf filled with binders and folders of every decently known fan theory and pulls each out and explained why they got debunked. It would be a great final hoo-rah for the theory community lol
Monsters( from what I can tell), occurs in God Valley ( in lieu to similar aesthetics to in Kuma's backstory), therefore renamed Godvalley in the honur of Ryuoma, The God of Swordsmen,and was localised by his followers,who themselves never left Wano.
I thought that the exuse of zoro was a shark would be "well sharks eat fish and kaido is using fish fish no mi hahaha"
aint no way bros been framing crazy theories and hanging em up on the toilet walls 💀
I find it amazing that zoro and sanji fans find an excuse to beef every single chapter and ignore all other plotlines
Liam, your toilet is not ominous enough. Mihawk would be disappointed.
This is numerology levels of batshit fucking insane.
Zoro's ( as well as Shanks and Mihawk) worst fans do make the fanbase a bit polarized. More so than the worst fans of other characters.
Yeah it's a shame because I like zoro but his fans put me off his character a bit because they always have to downplay other characters especially sanji to make zoro look better
@stempest7218 as a zoro fan, I'm safe from all this cause my only window to the fandom is through the injection of one piece content into my youtube feed by liam
@@xoooxzzzz5744 I like GL but even he does it every now and again. Like he claims we still haven't seen Zoro go all out despite his fight with King. So even he overhypes Zoro.
Also pay attention and you'll see he throws a lot of shade at Sanji like mocking Sanji for not having conquerors which what a lot of Zoro fans do even though Sanji has germa genes and fire powers. Or mocking Sanjis romance with pudding and implying zoro is a real chad.
@@stempest7218 i don’t know how much you read into that but I didn’t get too much of it. Maybe it’s there and I just didn’t really see it. Pretty sure he said zoro didn’t go all out before king but hey, I might be wrong. Also, pretty sure all the sanji teasing is supposed to be jokes (aside from the way sanji behaves to a lot of female characters in one piece which is very much creepy)
@@xoooxzzzz5744 I don't want to paint the picture that GL is just a zoro fanboy I think he makes good content and isn't above making fun of Zoro or other characters but I did notice that he makes fun of Sanji and downplays him alot more then other characters.
Like I wouldn't have picked up on it if it wasn't that he teased Sanji much more then other characters and always compares him negatively to Zoro.
Also if GL just mocked Sanji being a pervert I wouldn't complain as that is the worst aspect of him but GL usually mocks everything but that while constantly playing up Zoro.
Also when talking about Zoros fight with King he says that zoro still hasn't gone all out. So he also over hypes zoro.
Not trying to hate on GL I really like his content I'm just pointing out that he does have a bias to Zoro. However compared to most zoro fans GL is far better and fairer.
Zoro defeated 100 bounty hunters on Whiskey Peak as it kinda debunks he has only had pirate victims besides Lucci and Kaku
Bruh the amount of dedication that guy for one piece is remarkable , dude is a phd in one piece
the rabbit hole is really easy to get lost in
Ever since Oda failed Zoro fans with that Wano conclusion, only thing they have left is just fantasies
Oda never failed Zoro fans, Zoro fans were stupid to ever think he'd beat an arc boss.
Imagine your conquerer's Haki coming from wanting money 🗿 sigma mode
Please keep doing these theory videos, I love hearing how crazy everyone is~
about the theory of zoro's death in chapter 944, never heard of it, but in the panel in question in his back on the t-shirt is written "ultimo", this is an italian word that means "last" or "last one" opposite of "primo" "first", so if that means something it doesn't look good for our zoro
Every time I see an article with the caption "Oda-sensei is a genius...." I preemptively roll my eyes at the new ways the cringelord side of the fan base came up with embarrassing the whole fan base
lol the moment Zoro is freed in Shells town he attacks marines and tells Luffy “I’ve attacked Marines now, so there’s no turning back, I’m now a criminal”. Literally couldn’t claim Luffy if he tried.
Dawn Dusk has a pretty good theory about Zoro. The owner of the channel is from Japan. They analyze the original Japanese. Many Japanese characters and character combinations are difficult to translate into English. Oda likes to play with words. There are a lot of hints and puns within those Japanese characters.
Their theory is that Zoro will have a near death experience where he will meet an underworld deity. The deity will merge with one of his swords turning it black. This brings his Hell/Demon technique name theme into the One Piece world’s realm of reality. There’s obviously more to the theory, but that seems to be the gist of it.
I find Dawn Dusk’s analysis and speculations to be very interesting. They’re very careful not to be too specific. Sometimes their knowledge of cultures outside of Japan is a little off, so they may connect dots might need a little tweaking. However, I can’t deny the puns and word play this person finds. Not to mention cultural imagery that anyone outside of Japan probably wouldn’t know existed. How certain words and phrases are written so differently depending on the context. Or breaking down someone’s name or technique reveals certain hints about their ultimate purpose in the story.
I really recommend checking out their channel Dawn Dusk.
The thing with techniques though, is that Oda doesn't pay that much attention to them, they ain't named with something specific in mind, as Oda keeps forgetting them and relying on the wiki to remember.
@@azraeldusk2154 That’s true, but I’m not talking about specifics. I’m just talking overall theme. His theme seems to be Hell, demon, or underworld/other world. Dawn Dusk is pointing out that word play suggests that any upgrades to Zoro’s abilities will follow the same pattern. Artistic imagery, like cover art, seems to suggest there’s a connection between Zoro and rivers or other world crossroad mythology. There’s a possibility that pattern in artistic imagery is foreshadowing something to do with a near death experience in the future for Zoro. Considering Zoro’s close relationship with his swords, it’s likely that this near death experience may result in an even deeper spiritual connection between his swordsman spirit and his weapons.
This is the only channel that can make me see the thumbnail thinks its Zebex, read the text on the thumbnail and think its JJK, then read the title and realize it’s Zoro
"Zoro will betray Luffy"
You know, usually gatekeeping is BS...but I'm pretty comfortable saying that if you honestly believe Zoro will betray Luffy/the crew, you're not a Zoro fan.
So glad u started to upload more frequent on this channel
Some fans love this about One Piece but for me this is what i hate with a passion about One Piece.
Liam's comedy is so outrightly subtle i luv it
I love how all of these stupid theories completely forget who Zoro is.
This is like an almost 20 min video of Liam shitting on Zoro fans who makes theories 😭😭😭😂😂😂
My friends and I always talk about how dumb most Zoro fans are😂
Best one piece video I have seen from last 5 years
I love how unhinged Liam gets by the end of this video.
I've always had a theory that Usopp's Obs. Haki has been so good from a young age that he's just had insane Future Sight, which is why all his lies and stories are becoming true. He saw these futures in his mind-brain, couldn't understand why (because Haki wasn't a thing back then), and just chalked them up to fictional stories he imagined and further told to his friends and loved ones.
New theory the thing that Zoro killed in 1060 was indeed kaido in disguise.
Actually the Cowboy phase you refer to may be an actual reference to the Meiji restoration, where Japan picked up many western ideals and industries.
or it could just be because the hat was cool and funny, which seems more plausible and should be the explanation for many things in One Piece.
It gets esspecially annoying when people complain about their own conspiracy theories or story wishes not coming true.
Funny how in character it is for Zoro fans to be mentally lost in the story.
Liam woke up and chose violence love it
I cant believe I watched the entire video 😂 glad to be a Sanji fan 😜
Even more delusional
I'm not going to lie, this uses the same foundation of clues for their zoro theory that every one piece theory uses lol
My Zoro theory is that during the month he spent in Wano after the party, he found either the Orochi fruit or the Dragon fruit, and that favpr from Vegapunk from the beginning of Egghead is to put it in his sword
Then his sword turns into an oversized animal.
Asking for a cure for the Smiles is much more possible.
Zoro fans are a wild breed. Most fans i dont like unfortunately tend to be huge Zoro fans. Some people dont seem to realize how insufferable they are.
"Zoro is cool and therefore needs to do cool things" - Zoro fans: What about he betrays his friends or dies?
Also I think the worst quality of almost any "so and so"-fans are the following: belittling and dissing other characters. If thats the only thing that will make your fav character look good, maybe they arent or you are an idiot....
You'd think after being so horribly wrong over and over again, these people would get discouraged. But they keep make dumber and dumber theories...
U know break weak is slow if ur going over ZKK💀
One piece fans giving Oda too much credit is just like the samurai giving kinemon the credits😂
Zoro fanboys gotta be the slowest ppl on earth. Long live ZKK 😂
I like to think Zoro atans are people who haven't actually read the series, they just read the cool zoro pages or complain when they aren't happening. A lot of them genuinely believe he's above Luffy.
What is ironic about the 944 theory is that is wasnt necessarily wrong, but it was just pointed in the wrong direction. It wasn't that Zoro would face death himself, it was that Zoro would have to deal with the death of a friend dying. Thus the whole point of Zoro being chummy with a zombie in color spread, because it symbolized Zoro being friends with a dead man. That man being Yasue because he was going to give his life in the raid anyways, he just happened to die sooner. We see at the end of Onigashima that Zoro visits Yasue's grave with Sake, just like how he was sitting on the grave sharing a drink with the zombie in the color spread. So it would've actually been a great theory if they pivoted to someone else related to Zoro, but not Zoro himself. Oda is a master at foreshadowing, but sometimes the OP community is terrible at picking up what exactly he's foreshadowing.
No, fuck you, just because things arbitrarily lined up doesn't mean it was "foreshadowed". You can twist and mental gymnastics your way to any conclusion you want if you try hard enough
That still assumes this one specific detail in this one specific color spread is a hint to a future plot point, when no other color spread that we know of has done something like that. These theories all assume that One Piece is an intricate puzzle box, planned out by master Goda to the exact chapter, that you can use a formula to mathematically prove when a plot point is supposed to happen. And, like... that's not how this works. That's not how stories work.
@@nathanl8622 Yeah thats true to some sense. At the same this is Oda we're talking about. We have seen him do some decent foreshadowing from like 100 chapters ago. So it's not the far out that Oda had the idea in his mind and decided to add it to Wano to up the stakes. I don't think he meant for it to be exactly at 944, I think that was just lucky timing on his part; but it is still a interesting theory nonetheless.
Zoro fans can be weird. He's already so cool and easy to like, gets tons of epic moments etc and many still aren't happy with it. I'm mostly a Sanji fan but Zoro is one of my favorites and I never felt like he needed...more.
When you realize Oda has become the greatest story teller because he has to constantly rewrite his story to make sure it disproves all the theories and continue surprising his audience.
I mean I'm pretty sure he just does what he wants regardless of the theories. I like to try to guess what Oda's thinking too and while I think I get closer to the mark then most I won't be arrogant enough to think I can predict 100% what he's thinking either. It's not that he's rewritting anything it's just that he's insanely good at connecting things the dots so it feels like it was all planned from the start and we all know he IS good at planning ahead and knowing where he wants to go like hundreds of chapters before he even get's there. So no these theory crafters likely have little influnce on his work.
I think that Oda himself has admitted that until very recently he did not know people theorized about One Piece that much.
Not in the bathroom, the pettiness is unmatched. Is Fiji okay? 😂
Lmfao. Cocaine is a hell of a drug, and these theorists need to lay off it.
I think I need someone to explain the Zoro Domain Expansion, Bandai and Mangekyo Sharingan thing. I don’t read the more recent manga (I’m still in the Onigashima raid) so I’m kind of behind
It's because people just makeup that he can do anything with cool sword magic. So for example there's been a theory for years that he has a secret special powerful eye (like the sharingan) after the timeskip and that's why he keeps one eye closed.
It's just memes bro