Dragon Age Origins: Anora Romance & Marriage
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Breaks my heart seeing Alistair treated that way. In my playthrough Alistair was King and I was his trusted advisor. Alistair was like a brother to me.
He is my Magi Warden's love 😭.
However, he remained a Warden with her.
@@SeventhheavenDKand did he or hawke survive in the fade? 😬
Personally, I only dated Morrigan, did the ritual and married Anora in the end. I also let Alastair kill Loghain, so that's going to be a fun topic to discuss in evening strolls...
Did you have Alistair duel loghain?
@@saint-g7449 Oh yeah. My man Alistair was covered in juice after that.
tbh Leliana is batter, if you do her story arc right she'll join you with a certain feisty pirate for...fun
@@aaron75fy I don't know... Isabella wasn't as memorable in Origin than she was in 2.
@@sterasigma8734 less memorable sure, but while you can say that it's bet to go with it anyway just for the extra bit in DA2
4:50 Inquisitor, is that you?
Oh, shit, you're right. It's the Inquisitor
Alix Wilton Regan!
She's in the last scene as well - Mhairi, the chick in red armour.
It is refreshing to see someone still play DA Origins, a masterpiece that age like a fine wine.
How could you do that to Alistair.
4:33 Star Wars reference
No dialogue from Loghain about your marriage from the awakening appearance? Like the line where he asks for grandchildren.
Um Alistair you do realise that most wardens are CRIMINALS, right?
Ironically Duncan his idol is literally a murderer that is made a grey warden as a punishment.
@@Foodisgood My thoughts exactly, the greatest irony in opposition to Alistair's ideals. Were I Anora, I would keep him alive, lock him in the tower with The Calling book to make him stop being such a hypocrite XD
@@Foodisgood tbf Jory couldn't back out of the joining and he pulled his blade on Duncan so technically he isn't a murderer, he killed Jory in self-defence.
@@TheOneBeing1345 Duncan straight murdered someone in cold blood for a ring in the book. He was forced to joined the wardens as a punishment for outright murder.
@@Foodisgood damn what a savage...ah well atleast he atoned for his sins.
Alistair always hated being the king. It's sad how discouraged he looks in both DA2 and DAI.
I don't know how you reached this conclusion, but Alistair seems normal and capable to me as a king in DA2 and DAI. He might need some effort to get used to the throne, but I don't think it's so strong as "hate" or "discouraged".
He hated being a Grey Warden too, you see this in his face dream where he states that he doesn't want to go and die in the Deep Roads like the rest of the wardens or something along those lines.
If you hardened him he will not. in fact the guy is pretty good for a king and learned quite fast in about 10 years or so.
Not really especially if u play a female warden and become queen
Cool playthrough, but my Cousland does a few things different. He skips the short guard joke and just says "Let's go" to show he understands Anora's disguise immediately and is serious about getting her out of there. Also, if you take Alistair with you and you allow yourselves to be captured, Anora will exclude Alistair when asking how best to free "him", to which Eamon corrects her saying surely she means THEM since they need Alistair too. TO which she will nervously reply that yes, of course she meant Alistair too. I know it's the same regardless of who the Warden is, but it's fun to think of this as Anora already being smitten with the Cousland and only thinking about his safe return.
Later, I think winning the Landsmeet without Anora's added help is better in establishing yourself as equal to or better than her in terms of swaying the banns. And referring to her as queen shows her that you honestly see her as queen material already.
Allowing her to kill Alistair is a beta move though. Better to put your foot down and show her you're not a consort but a regnant king, regardless of her pretending otherwise.
When Anora asks if you're still interested, the better option is number 4, "Could I get out of it if I wasn't?". Not only does it get a laugh out of Anora, it shows you are still interested and also that there is no getting out of it short of death. It's a done deal, since it was the agreed upon outcome at the Landsmeet, and the Bannorn expects this to be carried out since they elected your both as monarchs.
While it may not be the best outcome for Anora, allowing Loghain to make the ultimate sacrifice provides an opportunity to bond with her at the coronation ceremony by telling her that her father redeemed himself. Also, saying that you're a little nervous puts her at ease since she knows you both feel the same.
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You are beta.
You let loghain (who supported the cousland massacre and rewarded the killer of your mother) live a second longer then he should, and on top of that you let him die a hero and a marter lol, you reek of beta.
She excludes Alistair from rescue mission, because he's a potential rival to the throne due to his birth. She always works two angles at the same time.
@@masterexploder9668 The way she says it and the way she reacts to Eamon reminding her, it seems Anora really did just genuinely forget about Alistair completely.
Excellent video. I love seeing the choices all over again.
Not as Glamorous as Morrigan-bae, I will only have eyes for Morrigan, I will never betray her.
Keep both. Morrigan is perfectly fine with being your secret lover and Anora never knows and both fall in love with you anyway. Win win.
@@zachrobinson6801 Except that you'll be leaving Anora to "hunt" Morrigan.
@@ethanor Yeah and then you go back to Denerim. In any save where Alistair is King, the Warden is said to be in Denerim so I see why this wouldn’t be the case here… when Anora would be your wife.
Morrigan is ebil though
@@zachrobinson6801 does anora even... fall in love? i think all life for her is just politics by the time of the dao plot
I generally tend to win the Landsmeet without Enora's support, resorting to Alistair becoming king out of necessity. If Anora could accompany the Warden like a non-combat companion and be influenced, I might totally be into a romance option with her.
How can you do this... I mean I love the warden with Anora, but god, Alistair just doesnt deserve this.
You can just have Alistair fight and kill Loghain, then a male Human Noble can marry Anora and Alistair remains a Grey Warden like he wanted.
@@OneLastScholarmain downside would be having to make “that choice” in DAI, that’s why I would rather have Alistair as King rather than a Grey Warden despite the fact that he prefers the latter’s lifepath. As an egg once said: sometimes the wise must give people what they need, not what they want.
Honestly the part with Alistair is bullshit let's be real. Riordan's offer is basically nullified by Alistair getting executed and Anora being so quick to do it honestly makes me see the Landsmeet is rushed. Loghain surviving as a Warden is one of the biggest twist choices Origins had but it would've been better off without the option
No it doesn’t. Because Alistair is a threat to her rule regardless this is scene in both game and in historical context. The loser either gets banished or more commonly executed. However, Riordan not telling you why Wardens are needed is stupid but then again he tells you later that he thought you knew.
@@zachrobinson6801 it's not so much her wanting to execute him that's the issue, it's the context of the whole scenario.
WE know Loghain will survive the Joining, but the characters don't. Riordan throwing the suggestion out there and then just sitting there silently as Anora executes Alistair just doesn't make sense. If Loghain would have died then that would've been it. You're down to 2 Wardens again.
Maybe with a bit more content invested into the Landsmeet it would've been fine, but the moment Loghain is defeated to the return to Redcliffe for the "calm before the storm" rest just happens too quickly.
@@roberthighsmith3192 It's the duty that cannot be forsworn, dude. But I think drunk Alistair is best. As for making Loghain a Warden, or not knowing if he would survive or not, maybe Riordan was trying to save Alistair and the other Warden from having to make the ultimate sacrifice. Having Loghain as backup in case he fails would allow the others to live. In truth, the main issue with the Joining is that Riordan doesn't find about ten other recruits as well.
@@BelieveIt1051 I'm not sure what you're referring to in the first sentence. You talking about Alistair leaving?
Anyhow that's what I'm saying though on Loghain's joining. You make a good point on Riordan's decision, but ultimately are also correct that the lack of any other recruits is off. It leans more in favor of Loghain having the option removed over not, because it ultimately does something and yet nothing.
Alistair is removed from the party, so you don't gain a new sword-n-board. You're at the end of the game, so really there's no quests to take him on besides perhaps a few side quests or DLC. This makes it so you get no real insight into Loghain or any compelling reason to even do it content wise beyond the novelty of the "twist" (or if you just don't like Alistair, but that's the least compelling reason for the twist to exist since it's down to individual tastes).
All in all, I wouldn't mind the twist in a more accommodating context. It's just that the choice is hollow as it is, done for the *le gasp* moment more than it is for real drama (or at the least it deserved more work put into it).
Fuck that logic. I never finish origins with Alistair. Alistair refuses to see reality, and this is the result.
I forgot how good Anora looks in this game. She's ugly as hell in DA:I lol.
Hitting the wall does that to every woman.
@@Adanu191wasn’t there a line or something about them trying to go for kids but Alistair’s blighted body might be hindering him from being able to provide an heir or am I just imagining it?
@@elianrodriguez7318 Imagining it. Alistair DOES say that the tainted blood potentially makes issues, but this is not confirmed as far as I know.
In my play dated morrigan to save archdemon soul and made him king
I'll never be able to do this to Alistair.
And for Anora, of all people...
I played through so many different times and ways….it’s hard to keep them all straight. But I was mostly a Leliana…through and through….I am such a sucker for the accent….lol
Not one kiss eh?
3:52 My first playthrough I thought it was some fake queen that's trying to lure me into a trap. The way her voices here sounded kind of suspicious.
My Queen, My Wife, My Love
I dont know why such a distaste for anora, everytime while playing cousland i always end up choosing her to the throne with cousland as consort , she is stunning and also cunning
beauty and brian both she is quite a gift ,i will never pass such opportunity to end up with a beautiful queen and also be the king of ferelden.
I mean she’s basically Morrigan if she was blond and lacked magic.
@@zachrobinson6801 yes absolutely 💯
I don't know man she wanted to chop off Alistair head the only thing she cares about is the throne
@@yoshikagekira2132 Any half competent ruler would’ve done the same.
@@yoshikagekira2132 but it is actually a wise decision, her argument was true. And well, of course she wanted the throne, she deserved it.
Alistair didn't even want it, and technically she was the better fit. Of course, the power of forced plot made Alistair a fine ruler (unrealistically), but that is something your Warden would never now or even imagine.
I feel like she did the speech better than Alistair XD
It was cool to see how this would play out, but I'll never do this on my playthrough 🤣🤣🤣
It’s wild to see people in 2024 still not only won’t explore different routes, but are appalled at other choices like this existing, because Alistair can’t be de-centered for some reason. Origins is a wild, fun and extremely interesting game, it’s a shame people still aren’t willing to explore it.
I enjoy telling Loghain that I knew he would be spared when he slayed the arch demon but had him do it anyway, letting him believe he was to die. He gets confused because he assumed I still wanted him dead, and if the joining didn't do it then the arch demon would. He doesn't understand your motives anymore, and you can basically tell him "figure it out, bestie". He gets to live through everyone knowing what a snake he was and has his whole life to atone.
Nah this is just fucked up. You can't snake on Alistair like this. What a disastrous sequence of choices.
I prefer the variant in which Alistair gets exiled. Killing him is too much, considering his contribution to the fight against the blight, but exile serves him right, considering his stance at the landsmeet and his childish reluctance to accept what's best for Ferelden. The landsmeet is all about striking the best deal possible, it's about politics, and Alistair acts immature, brings his emotions above his wits while Cousland is mature and smart enough to seize the opportunity that is best for grey wardens, his family name and Ferelden. Alistair was a cool companion, no hard feelings towards him. Noone pushed him to betray the wardens and leave Ferelden, he made the choice himself because he was too emotionally unstable to accept the reality and drop the past in which his thoughts linger.
why the hell all of you call the hero "cousland"? that is canon name or smth?
Most of the time I stick with Leliana. Just could not screw over Alistair like that.
No matter what Alistair says, he IS throwing a tantrum. We accomplished our goal of stripping Loghain of his power. In those moments, he is no longer a threat to us or our efforts toward the blight. WE. HAVE. PROVED. HIM. WRONG.
He cannot take that away from you. Killing him is a waste. Killing him won't bring the other Wardens back, and he never killed them out of malice, but desperation. I let him live, typically.
Like no Alistair becomes King and I become his Queen…the only acceptable playthrough
it's a shame he was hardened, I feel the "betrayal" would be interesting that way
Wisely you did not pick a fight with Ser Cauthrien.
I forgot how charming awakening anders is. No matter the playthrough i always keep alistair. Leaving sten, polluting the urn, not recruiting wynne, killing zev and shale outright, ignoring oghren as much as possible. Morrigan, alistair, and barkspawn are the ones i always keep.
No offense man but that sounds awful but hey to each their own
idk what kind of torment you endured in your life, but hopefully it heals you to the point you can restart with a complete party.
The only way I could see this happen is if Cousland was in love with Anora. There’s no other reason he would throw away a friend and ally for the man who’s actively been trying to kill him. And honestly, it’s pretty easy to headcanon. Maybe the king and queen dined at the Cousland house one time, and he’s fantasized about her ever since. This would be a dream come true for him; a dream he would be willing to sacrifice Alistair for.
If you know ANYTHING about Loghain, he was never trying to kill the Warden, he was trying to save his country and killing the wardens was a by product of that. Once you FORCE him to realize that the way to save the country is YOU, he stands down.
Pretending otherwise does a disservice to the character.
This is not naughty gaming, it is bad choices gaming lol.
С Анорой может роман быть ? Жениться и править вместе ? Играя за мужчину... А за девушку, я знаю, можно роман сделать с Алистером и править с ним...
Betraying Alistair like that is sick.
I only dated morrigan and left with her in the end
This pc or Xbox
From what I can see, this is the console version due to the glitched textures for Anders and the Blood Dragon Armor.
Ayo Cailan Im bang-....
I'm confident that Alistair doesn't have to die or exiled to marry anora and I know you can have loghain and he can become king. Make him king BTW. That way you don't have to pick between him and Hawke. Save hawke
Alistair gets exiled either way if you marry Anora. He says so in Inquisition, Anora would never let the bastard with a legitimate claim to the throne stay near her.
What is the best choice for marrying Anora without killing Alistair
You just tell Anora at the Landsmeet that you want to use your boon to spare him. She immediately allows it without a persuasion check.
Oh, I did that last time, but it crashed on me when I did it
Man....
Bad end. Allistair should be a king, loghain survive this and arcydemon. He can do his job on DAI
Nah, Alistair is always exiled in my playthroughs. The man is absurdly idealistic when it comes to the big stuff.
Its not a romance
Worst romance option at DA series alongside Prince vael 🤢.
oof! women...