A really helpful video for someone considering buying an I3 as a first Bev and wondering if the S is a better bet for motorway use Thank you great detail
I can see their many people like you and I that enjoy an understanding of the technology that carries too and fro. You stopped me dead when you showed the s body and wheel upgrade to the standard model. That has been my plan. Being a Mr average I can tell you that at least 1,000,000 other people are thinking as I am. I suggest you consider an upgrade pack as you have improved the car impressively. Nigel
We have a 2015 60a bev & daughter has a 2023 120 bev... completely agree the difference is it being a new car, feels tight.. handles the same both great to drive.
Thanks for listing the part numbers! Very useful because I need a new front shock. Must have leaked or frozen or something because it's got no damping left.
I wish I lived close to you guys. I'd know my i3 would be in safe hands if it came into your garage. Keep up good work. I don't suppose anyone can help? Occasionally my tyre pressure keeps coming on, when i run the test, always seems to be the same tyre thats lower than the other. Its a bran new tyre too. Any ideas would be welcome. I think the good one always reads 2.2 or 2.3 (can't remember now) other tyre reads 1.9. Rear tyres are always spot on. Thanks again. It clears and stops complaining when I run the test. Thanks
Thanks for the kind words! When the iDrive reports that the pressure has dropped to 1.9, is this actually the case? Have you confirmed this with an external gauge and then have to top it up? That being the case there must be a leak somewhere. Best to get some soapy water and spray it around the bead (and also onto the valve stem as these commonly leak). If the latter, you can buy a valve stem repair kit. If there is no actual leak, it’ll probably need a new tpms sensor. These aren’t hugely expensive, but the tyre would need to come off.
I'm a bit late with my response, but remember that wheels can also be damaged or defective when new, and so the wheel can also be the source of the leak (Audi had lots of problems with leaking wheels at one point due to poorly manufactured aluminium wheels which were porous and leaked air). Maybe if you go to a bad tire shop they may also not replace your valves as they replace the tire, and that can be defective?
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Great video with lots of interesting information. Thanks a lot for this! My problem with my i3s 120Ah is the hardness of the chassis in the city. Overland at higher speeds it's perfect but around town on bad roads it's extremely bumpy. Aren't there any electronically adjustable dampers that ideally change automatically via the driving modes? So "comfort" = soft and well balanced but "sport" = hard and sporty.
You can put 195-55-20 tyres, they are cheaper and more options, add sidewall and diameter, and you can use lighter wheels, i know a brand making forged magnesium for i3S. So Lighter unsprung mass can help.
Interesting video, thank you. Do you think that the stiffer springs on the S actually makes the car handle any better? I agree with you that the standard car has as much more compliant ride, which I prefer, but I am looking for an upgrade to my 94ah BEV which will improve its road manners on the fast but lumpy B roads I have in my area...
LCI cars most likely have newer istep version which has better stability sensor calibration and engine power calibration, which makes perception of better handling on the road.
I drove an LCI for about a week prior to purchasing a pre-LCI. The rental seemed a lot more isolated from the road. Could the overall construction or sound dampening in the vehicle have been improved?
I have an i3 S 120, and the only thing I'm not keen on is the hard ride. There is a UK company called Evolve who have made softer dampers. Does anyone have any experience of these?
I own a 2013 60Ah BEV with 20in wheels and as most people say, its biggest problem for me is the ride, it's just so crashy and not compliant at all as you said. This is I'm sure also due to the fact that i do hear a lot of creaks coming from the dash/glovebox/airvent area. Also, is it true that BEV versions have stiffer springs than REx versions? Is it possible to simply fit softer springs, as the standard ones are so stiff one never uses even close to full travel?
I think he means stiffer = higher spring rate, more kg/mm or whatever, softer = lower spring rate, less kg/mm. I understand your point about dampers, tyres etc but softer/stiffer is also used to refer to spring rate. @@tarassu
Superb video as always guys! Trying to diagnose a minor issue on my 2019 120ah i3 with 44k miles. At very slow speeds when I turn the steering wheel, it feels a bit crunchy. Not sure if thats top mounts or something different? Is there a test I can do to investigate further? Thanks! Andy
Hi Andy! Thanks for the support. Arthur will email you in the next few days with some info which might help or, if what he suggests doesn't help, we can get you booked in for a repair
Hi! Martin. I bought my used 2016 i3 (REX) last June 2021 with 26k mileage on it. Since then, the whole family loved it, specially now that gas prices here in the US got crazy high. The ride has been so smooth that I already put additional 8k miles on it. But this morning, I suddenly felt a short squeaking sound when I "accelerate" from full stop. I describe the sound comparable to whenever you engage the electronic parking brakes, but shorter squeak. Can I ask for Your opinion about it? Thanks. - Rene
Hi Martin, thanks for another awesome video from Wisely. Like many i3 owners, my main issue with the car is ride quality. I have an i3, 2019 120Ah BEV with the diamond cut 19 inch wheels you got in 2019 as standard. At 34k miles I am nearing replacement tyres, can I get better ride quality and less road noise by choosing a different tyre from the factory Bridgestones?
@@MichaelWilliams-ub3ow Thanks for your reply, I will look at the Continentals - still got tread left on the Bridgestones. When you say ‘revelation’, can you expand a little? I would like to improve comfort and reduce tyre noise if possible.
Hi I'm thinking of putting hubcentric wheel spacers on my 2015 i3. To Run 175 Tires all around! I heard that they can damage the wheel bearing? Is this true
This level of detail and specificity is so very much appreciated. Beautiful work 💪. Subscribed
This has to be the perfect video. Full and concise information. Will be a great help when sourcing used parts for my damaged OSR suspension. Thanks!
What a fabulously detailed and helpful video. So much debate about the impact of LCI on suspension, and so manmy wrongful assumptions. Great work.
Not boring to me, as an engineer and i3 owner it was actually very very interesting. Much appreciated! 🙂
A really helpful video for someone considering buying an I3 as a first Bev and wondering if the S is a better bet for motorway use
Thank you great detail
I can see their many people like you and I that enjoy an understanding of the technology that carries too and fro. You stopped me dead when you showed the s body and wheel upgrade to the standard model. That has been my plan.
Being a Mr average I can tell you that at least 1,000,000 other people are thinking as I am. I suggest you consider an upgrade pack as you have improved the car impressively.
Nigel
We have a 2015 60a bev & daughter has a 2023 120 bev... completely agree the difference is it being a new car, feels tight.. handles the same both great to drive.
Very comprehensive, accurate and short, thank you for such work.
Thanks for listing the part numbers! Very useful because I need a new front shock. Must have leaked or frozen or something because it's got no damping left.
Great Video. Thanks for that.
Yeah. When i Drive a new Carsharing BMW i3 it really feels more quiet as my old 2016 i3.
Very informative, thank you.
I wish I lived close to you guys. I'd know my i3 would be in safe hands if it came into your garage. Keep up good work. I don't suppose anyone can help? Occasionally my tyre pressure keeps coming on, when i run the test, always seems to be the same tyre thats lower than the other. Its a bran new tyre too. Any ideas would be welcome. I think the good one always reads 2.2 or 2.3 (can't remember now) other tyre reads 1.9. Rear tyres are always spot on. Thanks again. It clears and stops complaining when I run the test. Thanks
Thanks for the kind words! When the iDrive reports that the pressure has dropped to 1.9, is this actually the case? Have you confirmed this with an external gauge and then have to top it up? That being the case there must be a leak somewhere. Best to get some soapy water and spray it around the bead (and also onto the valve stem as these commonly leak). If the latter, you can buy a valve stem repair kit. If there is no actual leak, it’ll probably need a new tpms sensor. These aren’t hugely expensive, but the tyre would need to come off.
I'm a bit late with my response, but remember that wheels can also be damaged or defective when new, and so the wheel can also be the source of the leak (Audi had lots of problems with leaking wheels at one point due to poorly manufactured aluminium wheels which were porous and leaked air). Maybe if you go to a bad tire shop they may also not replace your valves as they replace the tire, and that can be defective?
Great video with lots of interesting information. Thanks a lot for this!
My problem with my i3s 120Ah is the hardness of the chassis in the city. Overland at higher speeds it's perfect but around town on bad roads it's extremely bumpy.
Aren't there any electronically adjustable dampers that ideally change automatically via the driving modes? So "comfort" = soft and well balanced but "sport" = hard and sporty.
You can put 195-55-20 tyres, they are cheaper and more options, add sidewall and diameter, and you can use lighter wheels, i know a brand making forged magnesium for i3S. So Lighter unsprung mass can help.
@@llavero5Guter Tip aber leider zum Beispiel in Deutschland nicht zugelassen 😟
They did make a 120Ah S REx, though perhaps not in the UK. I have one
Nice info, spring rates and diameter stabilizer bars would be interesting too if you have the info any day.
Interesting video, thank you. Do you think that the stiffer springs on the S actually makes the car handle any better? I agree with you that the standard car has as much more compliant ride, which I prefer, but I am looking for an upgrade to my 94ah BEV which will improve its road manners on the fast but lumpy B roads I have in my area...
Do any rubber bushes tend to wear out? With 5 rear arms per side that's a lot of rubber!
LCI cars most likely have newer istep version which has better stability sensor calibration and engine power calibration, which makes perception of better handling on the road.
I drove an LCI for about a week prior to purchasing a pre-LCI. The rental seemed a lot more isolated from the road. Could the overall construction or sound dampening in the vehicle have been improved?
I have an i3 S 120, and the only thing I'm not keen on is the hard ride.
There is a UK company called Evolve who have made softer dampers.
Does anyone have any experience of these?
I've heard that steering wheel acts differently between old and new i3. So how about steering components?
I own a 2013 60Ah BEV with 20in wheels and as most people say, its biggest problem for me is the ride, it's just so crashy and not compliant at all as you said. This is I'm sure also due to the fact that i do hear a lot of creaks coming from the dash/glovebox/airvent area. Also, is it true that BEV versions have stiffer springs than REx versions? Is it possible to simply fit softer springs, as the standard ones are so stiff one never uses even close to full travel?
Springs are not stiff, they are springy. What makes vertical oscillations stiff? Well, tire wall size, tire pressure and dampers. Not springs.
I think he means stiffer = higher spring rate, more kg/mm or whatever, softer = lower spring rate, less kg/mm. I understand your point about dampers, tyres etc but softer/stiffer is also used to refer to spring rate. @@tarassu
Superb video as always guys!
Trying to diagnose a minor issue on my 2019 120ah i3 with 44k miles. At very slow speeds when I turn the steering wheel, it feels a bit crunchy. Not sure if thats top mounts or something different?
Is there a test I can do to investigate further? Thanks! Andy
Hi Andy! Thanks for the support. Arthur will email you in the next few days with some info which might help or, if what he suggests doesn't help, we can get you booked in for a repair
@@wiselyauto amazing thanks so much.
Hi! Martin. I bought my used 2016 i3 (REX) last June 2021 with 26k mileage on it. Since then, the whole family loved it, specially now that gas prices here in the US got crazy high. The ride has been so smooth that I already put additional 8k miles on it. But this morning, I suddenly felt a short squeaking sound when I "accelerate" from full stop. I describe the sound comparable to whenever you engage the electronic parking brakes, but shorter squeak. Can I ask for Your opinion about it? Thanks. - Rene
At the same mileage, my top mounts started squeaking when slowly manoeuvring.
Noted. I'll have my engine mounts checked on my next REX oil change. Thank you👍🏻
Are broken coil springs common on the i3. 😢
Hi Martin, thanks for another awesome video from Wisely. Like many i3 owners, my main issue with the car is ride quality. I have an i3, 2019 120Ah BEV with the diamond cut 19 inch wheels you got in 2019 as standard. At 34k miles I am nearing replacement tyres, can I get better ride quality and less road noise by choosing a different tyre from the factory Bridgestones?
My car, same model with all new tyres. Probably too late now, but Continental tyres have been a revelation.
@@MichaelWilliams-ub3ow Thanks for your reply, I will look at the Continentals - still got tread left on the Bridgestones. When you say ‘revelation’, can you expand a little? I would like to improve comfort and reduce tyre noise if possible.
Also i3 for Japan market has different suspension
Can you put the anti rollbar from the s on the lci 94Ah bev?
Yes. That was my question too.
So if you put all the 94Ah i3S BEV parts on a 94Ah i3 BEV would it essentially be an S in terms of suspension (with the wrong wheels)?
Ha I knew my springs aren’t softer, Thx
I want to live next door to Martin, then I'll buy a i3s.
Me too, I wish he was here in the USA
Hi I'm thinking of putting hubcentric wheel spacers on my 2015 i3. To Run 175 Tires all around! I heard that they can damage the wheel bearing? Is this true
Bonjour je croyais que c'était pas conseillé de lever la BMW i3 que d'un côté ?
The biggest problem in the UK isn't the car's ride, it's the goddamn awful roads!
Junk car i have one . Will sell as soon as posible.!