IS EMINEM THE GOAT? LETS TALK ABOUT IT! (MARSHALL MONDAY)
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To admit he's the Goat and not your favorite, nothing but respect right there.
Has he truly said Eminem’s the goat though?
@@grantharalson3047 did you watch the whole video?
@@MegaDudeman21 I absolutely did,why do you ask?
On that Touch It remix with Papoose, Missy, Busta, Loyd Banks, And Remy Ma- what a lot of ppl don't know is that they called Em at the last minute after the award show realized that DMX was arrested and wouldn't be there to do his verse. Eminem was asked to perform and prepare a verse either that day or the day b4-cant remember which.
And Em definitely the GOAT of GOATs- and I base that decision off of his delivery on each verse he's done on tracks with the other goats. He always outshines and has the better verse, he always has the stand out verse. He always seems to be the best of the best.
"He has the same impact as mother nature has on the environment" might be my favourite description of eminem I've heard
BINGO!🙇🏽♂️🐐✨🎯💯
Such an exaggeration name some great artists eminem influenced
@@adamdalmer4595 “plays the last verse of Eminem’s song Fall”
@@adamdalmer4595 kendrick lamar, J cole, logic, joyner lucas, hopsin, young m a
And he is respected by the rappers like Nas, JayZ, Dre, nate dogg, 50 cent,
And I am 15 and he influenced me
Should I keep going ?
@@awadiaali2977 facts
And your only 15? Glad to see a youngin like you that's smart and is eminem fan. It's always great to see the new generation listening to eminem instead of alot of the garbage your gen listens to. I'm 32 and been a HUGE eminem fan since 1999! Been rocking w him.since day 1. Love eminem
Eminem is my 10 year old daughters favorite rapper...the fact he was my favorite at 16 years old (40 now) is just crazy..his longevity and appeal has stood the test of time.
I was listening to Eminem when I was 12yrs old - here I am now still listening to Eminem at 35. The GOAT.
I found this comment CRAZY
16 to 40..
I hope your daughter be safe
My 15 yr old daughters fav rapper is Em. But, mostly old stuff & she's doesn't really like other rap. Except for old ish, i play her. Loves Outkast, Snoop etc. But, doesn't like any of the modern style mumble rap. She's a 15 yr old girl. Into Grande & Olivia Rodriguez... plus a lot of the 90's stuff cause that's what my wife always has playing in the car with her.
But, she had 5 Em tracks memorized by tge time she was 10. (Clean versions, or select tracks that weren't too vulgar for her at that age.. lol)
Em became my fave around 24, after mmlp, and still is at 45. But, I was major hip hop head since 10-12 yrs old. Before Em dropped, at that time Wu Tang was my Fave . I don't care if it was a group. Lol. Also, DMX, Busta, Redman, Outkast, Jada & Lox, Juvenile (was my club days. Lol...). Just saying who I was mainly bumbin right b4 Em hit my radar. Liked sslp, but mmlp solidified it & then tes & 8mile soundtrack def confirmed more so.
Never felt Jay like that. Sry.. was always a nas fan.
Being close in age & going thru similar 20 yr old ish, thru the dark times & getting thru it, always was able to relate & also the skills, charisma, humor etc. Had total package imo & took his on own lane.
@@andywylde Same here. First discovered Eminem at 12 years old and now I'm almost 31 and still listen to his music on a daily basis. ❤
You are a good parrent!
What makes him one of the GOATS
1. Has adapted his style over the years
2. His story telling (you feel you know him even doe I dont) of his life
3. His pen 🖊 is second 2 none
4. He destroys on collaborations.
5. Shouting out the greats that have come before him and even rappers today.
I could go on and on
Yes, but in this case we're talking about The GOAT, the best of all time, and i defintely think he is the one.
#5 is why I consider Eminem as the goat
But we need to take into consideration that Revival was a black spot in his career, and his discography is very consistent
@@moodykrish revival wasn't terrible... It was just different
He's definitely one of the GOATs, IMO he's top 5 and the only ones greater than him are Crooked I, Royce Da 5'9 and Black Thought, everyone else is under
Of all the existing languages Stevie chose to speak FACTS!! 🔥🐐
He adjusts to the times through the decades....not many adapt. I've grown up from 14yrs old to almost 40 and his ability to fit with the times is unreal and how has he not run out of material? Cos he's the GOAT. Ain't nobody doing it like him.
No
@G Kay great counter-argument 👌
I got me a music to be murdered by dress today. Love it.
Give me of em albums that are considered classics by everyone..
Yes 🔥😁
The term ‘i Stan for’… literally came from his song .There’s youngsters out there that use the term that have no idea where it came from. His contribution to music, to hip hop and even to society goes way beyond an average rapper.
He’s the most versatile rapper in the game. From story telling to horrorcore to boom bap to humour to the shock value to battling he has switched between all styles and back again seamlessly.
He can switch and throw his voice to be funny then project it to be an angry monster right on the next track.
He’s global. He can sell out stadiums in any country on the planet even now at 48 years old and been doing that since the Marshall Mathers LP.
His production also also criminally underrated.
He’s an absolute student of hip hop and gives nothing but respect to his peers and the people the come before him.
There may be a disconnect between certain fans of hip hop because he’s not black and that’s fair enough. They don’t relate to him. I can’t relate an ounce of my soul to lil nas x, tekashi 69, lil pump or any of those types of artists and I can’t respect their craft so I understand Em’s music ain’t for everyone.
However, for his skill level, longevity, his impact, his accomplishments and for the fact white rappers were a god dam running joke before he came along if he ain’t the goat he Absolutely belongs right in the conversation.
This man broke down racial barriers in hip hop and opened the door for alot of people including both artist and fans. He deserves his flowers now whether goat or not.
Always one guy that comes in and drops some subtle racism. Congrats shit for brains, this time it’s you.
@@alexcollazo8432 Facts!
@@lassec Stan - 2000, Ether - 2001,
"know your facts before come at me lil goof"
💥💥💯💯🤟👌
@@damienmarshall350 how was he racist stupid? Are you saying white ppl weren't trying to jack black culture? You stans are insane
I know he’s the GOAT because it’s more then the music, he’s a visionary, a writer, a producer, an actor, he can draw, he’s a creator, an influencer. He’s so much and more. His music is amazing but he has the whole package.
I’d have to agree just for the fact that he does have the whole package. There are rappers out there who can write amazing songs on par with Eminem but they don’t have a great rap voice or the best flow. Eminem has a special quality about him when it come to music. If I’m being honest there are rappers out there who make more relatable music but they lack in categories that would otherwise put them on Eminem’s level. Trust me I criticize Eminem a lot but I’m not gonna act like he isn’t one of or the the best rappers to ever touch a mic. The man deserves his credit no matter if you like his music or not and no matter his skin color. Skin color should not matter in any conversation no matter the subject. Skill is skill. Period.
Even if you take away all the tags you mentioned and just look at rap writing, Eminem is the lyrical GOAT - just in that one category. Sometimes I wonder how his body of work managed to get so popular WORLDWIDE, because his writing is very complex - not easy - and people usually prefer simplicity. How are millions over millions of people able to appreciate complexity, when I'm sure there's no way they understand it. Am I giving humanity too little credit? Do all Eminem fans catch all the doubles, tripples, all sorts of lyrical devices, flow switches, pockets, etc. There's no way. Most listeners only listen to Eminem's music superficially. Again, and yet Eminem's music is insanely popular. It's so interesting. Maybe complexity is just inspiring and motivating, so people are subconsciously drawn to it, even when they don't understand it? I don't know. Em is the GOAT for sure though.
I got Lil Wayne as the Goat all day and this coming from a huge Eminem fan and I’ve studied 2Pac Wayne and Em to the max WAIS just different facts
@@astepaya4274 well lil Wayne is one of the best. Or was. I just cant fuk w lil Wayne anymore and I used to be such a huge fan. Too much autotune a d I dunno it's legit hard in the ears listening to lil Wayne now...oh well. I'll listen to his old sht
@@forevermarked5826 bro you trippin Wayne been going so hard on the features he’s put out this year nobody is snapping like him this year, where is Em at? The guy drops an album every 2-3 years and then disappears like he never existed Wayne is active af lol
The thing that makes eminem the greatest of all time is his discipline! Cause no-one got that discipline in this game! By having that discipline he's so consistent in what he do, he makes it impossible for any other rapper to get to that work ethic!
Don't forget his talent and creativity coz tech and Wayne got work ethic but not enough
You're gunna have to elaborate that for me. What do you mean no one else got that work ethic?
@@watsonswhey shady goes to the studio everyday. treats making music like a factory gig. a 9 to 5 so he can be with his girls in the evening. well that's when they were younger; today's em just want to drop albums every year
Been waiting for Stevie to admit this for so long, it's crazy, plus other hip hop fans and great rappers knows wussup 2 but would rather carry it to their grave than admit Shady IS THE MF GOAT
Although both are amazing, Z-Ro's work ethic surpasses Em's imo. Putting out an album every year since 1998 is something Em hasn't done but Ro has.
It's almost as if he's a..... Rap God
He forgot to mention Em is a whole producer as well
I love when you said "Me not liking it has nothing to do with the conversation " that's what people don't get, their opinion is strictly based on whether they like the music or not, which is just ridiculous, i don't have to like Andre's music to acknowledge he is one of the greats, and just because i like Hopsin music more than Nas's doesn't mean i have to put Hopsin above Nas, people need to think more like you Stevie.
I think his long list of banger diss tracks should also be a part of the equation of him being the GOAT too. As well as being a battle rap mc and dope freestyler.
nah
Having vicious diss tracks 15 odd years ago isn't impressive in 2021. They're still great, but he doesn't have a long list at all. Also being a battle rapper in the 90s doesn't hold weight anymore.
So you're saying that what rappers did in the 90's don't hold wait. 🤔🤔
@@richardestrada4011 I think someone having credentials 30 years ago doesn't have relevance to who they are now. Em likely cant battle against most modern battlers atm. He still raps, so we can see he's talented in that regard, but we can't say he's a battler because he used to decades ago, y'know?
I guess it's why this topic is forever ongoing. Besides the obvious subjectivity, people have their own different criteria.
@@watsonswhey Dat 🧢(Em was for sure a battle rapper he was at the fucking Rap Olympics also he would dismantle any Battle rapper this day of age)
@@Milkers777 we know he was a battle rapper, but he isn't anymore. And he absolutely would not dismantle any battle rapper this day and age. It's a different landscape. I believe he keeps up with it, but it's just not his lane anymore.
They did a study in 2019 and Eminem has used more unique words than any other person in the history of music. So his expansive vocabulary is one more thing to consider when deciding if he's the goat. Which in my opinion he is...
2nd place was Bob Dylan btw
Pretty sure Aesop Rock has a wider vocabulary. He's also a very obscure artist. Both are legends
Aesop Rock, Busdriver and Jedi Mind Tricks happen to be Hip Hop artists with the largest vocabulary in that order if I'm not mistaken. Eminem has an expansive vocabulary but it's definitely not the largest in Hip Hop.
@Percival Yes many artists 2wee above Eminem in this department including Doom Canibus and multiple Wu Tang Members.Eminem is one of the greats but not the absolute greatest at all Stans need to listen to more hip hop.
www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/entertainment/eminem-kanye-bob-dylan-study-music-feat/index.html
My bad it was in 2015
As he said at the end of "Walk on water", He wrote "Stan", that's one of the best songs ever, when it comes to story telling and painting a picture
I swear to God only retards who say that song is trash smh
I never need to ever hear that song ever again and it would never occur to me that its gone.
Yeah man. After Proof was killed Em completely changed it up. He's reinvented himself multiple times. But it feels like after Proof was gone he went to another place and really started honing all of the skills he's always had and just perfecting his craft entirely. He is the GOAT of Hiphop.
I think the killing of both Bugz and Proof was real heavy on Em, and also just how similar the way the both of them got killed. And he def the GOAT of hip hop. Em will fill up arenas in whatever country he would perform. Album sales is always wild
@@Cid_1 #Facts
It's all to make proof proud. That's what i think.
@@riley0ne He's said a much in a few songs he's done. So yeah I agree. I think making Dre proud is something else that drives and motivates him as well.
Absolutely agree about him changing after proof death, he retired for a year or so in 2007/08 and came back with a different (worse imo) voice. Also putting down the Slim Shady persona with the song When I'm Gone(2005) also changed everything, prime eminem was like Dr. Jakill and Mr. Hide, Eminem and Slim Shady. Proof deaths really impacted his path, but he would still have not reached his hights from 99-2003 imo. Best rapper in history for me aswell anyways👌🏻
over 20 years and still relevant so i would say he the goat.
jay z
Nas
Lil Wayne
@Anand but just because someone is more famous doesn’t mean that they are better. Nas is more lyrical than Eminem in my opinion. That’s why I would say he is better
Yeah Jay and Nas still doing it...but like Stevie said, they ain't doing it like Em...and Jay and Nas are definitely in the goat conversation, Em is just in his own tier, lonely af.
Preach! He is wayyyyyy more versatile than most rappers. He can do serious songs with a message, he can do silly shit, he can tell stories, he can rap slow, he can rap fast, he can freestyle, he can diss, he can give you similes, metaphors, doubles and triples, multiple syllable rhyming, carry 1 entire scheme for like 16 bars, and he has switched up his cadence to match any beat.
Honestly earned so much respect for you to admit that it's ok to like Eminem he is a genius.
You just a d rider
@@princedame9534 You just a hater, let the man give respect
@@shouzuballer5482 shut up LMFAOOOOO
@@princedame9534 It's true though lol lets keep it real.
@@shouzuballer5482 do you believe so my son?
its not just his pen. Its his mouth, lungs, and mind
Pause
What that mouth do
@@lucasralphs1350 it spits that fire
"You can say Em is not the best, but there's literally nobody better than Em "
LMFAOOO Lupe is way better, daylyt is way better and Aesop rock is way better.
@@princedame9534 loool i love your humour🔥
@@l2s473 change your name to Stan jogg
@@princedame9534 lol stop clowning
@@qwerty-ss2ky I'm sorry I didn't mean to attack the stanbase
For me, a great artist can speak to you no matter what stage of life I'm going through. Em speaks through his music and he has covered so many topics that i can pick a situation and I bet there is an Em song or bar addressing it.
Eg. You mentioned "tools in his tool box", he literally said, " you aint got the tools, i got my tool belt" 🔥🔥
I dont know a lot of ppl who feel that way about him
@@Suge8263 they won’t allow themselves to say it. Reason, unfortunately, being obvious.
@@Suge8263 Yeah except millions of his fans nobody feels that way 🤦🏻♂️
Em trash
@@gkay8889 thank you for making a fool of yourself talk about a comment with no context🙇🏽♂️💯
Yes, he checks all the boxes from skills, sells, influence, and art. Not to mention how worldwide he is. The OG's of rap, professors, musicians, celebrities and a lot of the new generation artists respect him and know how great he is. You only hear disagreements from haters, trolls, or people who can't break down lyrics.
I'm not a hater at all but Eminem quality of just music is average at best. His lyrical skill is top level for sure. But for the most part of his career the music as a whole has been average in my opinion. Especially in the latter of his career. I think his last big hit song was about 9 or 10 years ago. His name has stayed relevant but his music hasn't kept up to his name at all. Young Eminem had quality music. But that was in the early 2000s. Me personally I think the quality of music and your discography should be the most important category in the Goat conversation. To call him the GOAT is going wayýyyyyy too far. But I will always respect that pen.
@@hcdashadow80 his sales say otherwise. Kamikaze and Music To Be Murdered By speak for themselves.
@@mt10-nick66 we all know why his sales are so high. Eminem said it himself. I don't think he has had a big single since maybe the song with him and Rhianna. And sales is just one category too. But his couple of albums have just been a hit and a miss. And just average at best. And I can't even lie. I miss Dre producing most of his early albums. That was the ultimate cheat code.
@@hcdashadow80 i think you're missing something, Eminem can't keep chasing those songs he made back then, artists grow and change. He's accomplished enough and gave enough to have fun in the rap game now. To call his music average is wild but that's your opinion. To you it may be average but even people today still looking for features from him and Dj khaled still asking for a feature.
@@jayintee whether your chasing a style or having fun or choosing to grow and be different. In the bigger scheme of everything it still comes down to how the music sounds. And to me personally it's average. Its just the music on his first 4 albums was top tier. I would be lying to sit here and say his later albums is on par with his early albums because there just not.
Eminem is the goat!
Fax
Uuummm..... No
@@fukyofeelings7228 Ummm... Yes... And if you think different, you're deaf and don't actually have the ability musically speaking to notice why.
Always has been.always will.once in a lifetime mc.he is the only mc who puts chills up my spine with his pen.GOAT
Lil Wayne = 🐐
Even while trying to be as unbiased as possible I still can’t see anyone coming close to Em. At least not near as consistently as he does it
He did not have a great album since the eminem show, and he was really the greatest rapper only on his debut and some songs of mmlp. Then his lyrics became awkward bc he rapped anything to fit the rhyme pattern, too much multisyllable rhymes not saying nothing, terrible beats, completely lost his musicality (on his early albums he was using all these rhyme schemes to sound good on the beat, then his verses became chaotic ugly etc.). Completely lost his sense of humor, his song kill you is more creative than all his discography after the eminem show put together)
@@dominikkorzatkowski4184 couldn’t disagree more but you do you
@@dominikkorzatkowski4184 and to say he’s not creative anymore is not true. Darkness for example
@@dominikkorzatkowski4184 you still have time to delete this, cause you're clearly clueless about what you're saying.
@@dominikkorzatkowski4184 i agree with most of what u said but im not saying hes trash and im still a huge em fan
I'm a teacher trying to create a class revolving around his verses and way he uses language. Honestly going back to Shakespeare's use of language, doubles, rhyme, storytelling...he's not much different. Modern day.
A youtube channel is what you need.. perfect venue for that
"See I'm a poet to some, a regular modern day Shakespeare
Jesus Christ the King of these Latter Day Saints here
To shatter the picture in which of that as they paint me
As a monger of hate and Satan a scatter-brained atheist
But that ain't the case, see it's a matter of taste
We as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they say he is
Or is he the latter, a gateway to escape?
Media scapegoat, who they can be mad at today"
One of my favorite verses of all time
@@alexferlazzo5524 The exact same verse popped in my head when I read her comment on Shakespeare lol
@@alexferlazzo5524 agreed.
I would say Em is more like a combination of Edgar Allen Poe and Shakespeare, with him leaning more towards Poe with his reflection of society's darkness
Eminem always been like that.. he just master his craft on a level no one will ever will
FACTS BRO
1-lose yourself(motivation)
2-the way i am (agressive rap and cadence)
3-till i colapse (iconic song)
4-rap god (incredible flows)
5-Godzilla(one of his recently hits)
Stan? Sing for the moment? If I had? Soooo soooo many more aswelll
He’s got 50 better songs than Godzilla
What he did with Darkness, that wasn't just a lyrical rap, it was a film about real life
Eminem doesn't have the tools, he's the damn Snap-on truck. Lol
1. Versatility
2. Longevity
3. Perseverance
Those are the 3 things that make him the GOAT to me.
This is great man. It's been interesting watching you go from having a bit of an indifference to Eminem's impact (just focusing on lyrics), to now appreciating how complete he is as an artist. Good stuff!
I feel stevie’s gonna be a stan real soon the way he has progressed going through ems catalogue just in a year. Go back watch his earlier reactions and then the recent ones. 😂
the 2 best masterpieces: Stay wide awake / Book of rhymes
FACTS
"Fack" is the best song he ever made.
@@kadertraore3404 lol stfu
@@andrewtt03 well there's a reason why he put it on the greatest hits album. As he said in a song it took a lot of balls to do that 🤪🤣🤣🤣
@@RS-vy9qv he is a better writer now. Eminem show is the best album ever but that's just my opinion🥳Apparently I'm an idiot as I think SSLP sucks🤦🏽♂️ (apart from rock bottom/brain damage, as the world turns) 🤔and i love encore (of course my 1st single and big weenie 1 shot 2 shot are shit).
Often a flow is part of a rapper’s signature.
For example : only 2pac said “believe me” as “belieeeeeeev me”.
And i bet lots of you can guess the rapper by it’s flow.
But ask yourself… what is Em’s signature flow…?
I took this question to bed and woke up without an answer.
He can switch between flows like flickin’ the lights on and off, he can take someones style and kill ‘m with it…
He can tell a story in his tracks in a way that you can see before your eyes what he is saying.
But You’re right, Stevie…. A big part of this conversation is subjective. Being able to relate to content is not to be ignored, but Em had Fire tracks which should never relate to any sane human being.
At the end of the day, this conversation will never reach any consensus, but the reasons to back up what people prefer, often have nothing to do with the science..
He's a chameleon and continues to improve himself ontop of that. The only way to imitate him is by going back to mock Slim Shady's flow. That's what most people do when impersonating Eminem.
The problem with the GOAT conversation is the fact that people misinterpret it and make it about their personal favorite rappers instead of looking at it from an unbiased POV and ranking the BEST rappers. There’s a big difference between your favorite rapper and the best rapper. Like Stevie said, Em is not his favorite rapper, but he acklowledges his skills. Once you look at it from this perspective, there’s no doubt
Great post, I've been saying this. So, many peeps over the yrs. Including "so called" Em fans, who have got on him for doing ish different from album to album. From the early days, to the Relapse/recovery/mmlp2 days. To now from revival/Kamikaze/m2bmb a & b.
He's always had different sounds, concepts, flows, cadences etc.
He's not wanting to sound like old Em. Each Album or every other album or period he reinvents or tries to hone his skills & add more to his tool bag.
Where so many greats, find their lane and stay there, cause it worked for them. No hate for it.
But, gotta respect him always trying to do something different & putting himself out there considering he had nothing to prove.
Love of the game & deserves respect just for that.
even the "lyrical miracle" type of rap was named after what he rapped in the BET cypher
@@karniskavva LOL !!!
Nsh that term was throwb around before..soulja boy said it literally like 4 or 5 years before that
Soulja boy does everything first. Should have known
False
@@georgethompsonjr6082 soulja did it first.
1. stan 2. Lose yourself 3. Rap god 4. The way I am 5. Darkness
His verse on "best friend" alone is a MONSTER...👹
Ain't that enough!!?
He cant be touched with lyrics , versatility , longevity , record sales the whole shit
Versatility? Huh. What is versatile about his music. He can switch up his.flow as.well as anybody but his actual music sounds the same
@@phillywayne if you need to ask then rap aint for you joshua
@@WAFFLEZZ_92 I ain’t disagreeing but maybe you should just explain it to him then instead of avoiding it lol don’t bring it up if you can’t explain how he is Versatile
@@kanehowe8081 i would have if it was someone like you but hes just some kid on here trying to troll
@@phillywayne lol! Wtf?
I hate Tom Brady but I respect his skill.
Well said
7 completely different songs
1) Loose yourself - (probably the greatest rap song of all time)
2) Rapgod - (just showing lyrical ability/having bars/making a banger)
3) Love the way you lie - ( One of the best relationship song)
4) Framed - ( Psychopathic shit)
5) Stan/Darkness - (storytelling with purpose)
6) Square dance/ Mosh - (political awareness.)
7) Best friend - ( masterclass on how to match your vibe in a feature)
It’s crazy that I could but completely different songs of his for each of those reasons.
This list is pretty spot on, I'd add 3am to (4) and Chloraseptic to (7)
I add Buffalo bill and maybe headlights to?
@@silverfox3155 Dude Headlights is such a great song... it should have been as big as Stan. I didn't add it because to understand it you need to have knowledge of Em's past and Cleaning out my closet and other songs that he mentions.
@@jrmy198523 yep...I chose this because they are mainstream hits ..and production is also perfect. I left out Songs like Shady XV and campaign speech because of production
No rapper on this earth does or can do "Darkness" #facts its not even close you're correct sir
Hip Hop is not my chosen genre of music but, for me, Eminem is on par with Shakespeare (just much more relatable). The way he plays with words, makes you think, which makes you listen and hear what he is saying, that is an art. He is an artist in the true sense of the word.
Lmao em fans crazy
Genuinely laughed.
@@ugnius2707 Em stans are delusional bro lol
Been listening to Alfred's Theme over and over again, that song can literally melt my brains down
That beat is sick too
That song is difficult I don't know if I listen to the rhyme pattern flow punchlines. It literally breaks my brain eachtime
Bro ngl I caught all the bars from that bitch after 6 MONTHS... YES IN JUNE I GOT ALL THE BARS
@@damianoabbina9967 thats a big claim all the bars? when it comes to em you'll find a bar in another dimension after a decade
@@charg1nmalaz0r51 facts
Em is easily the GOAT. 2 consecutive diamond albums, wordplay, mainstream appeal, got an Oscar, multiple Grammys, cultural icon, opened the lane for more listeners to get in to hip hop. He’s matched every piece of criteria you need to be the GOAT.
Facts
This is the type of stuff that rubs Em haters and objective super passionate HipHop heads who love Em also the wrong way.
There are a lot of other phenomenal MCs who have had phenomenal careers to say something idiotic like “Eminem EASILY the GOAT”. No one including Eminem is “easily the GOAT” if you really have been a fan of this from underground to mainstream for 30-40 years! Those fans know there is way too many amazing emcees to be the ultimate one GOAT.
@@superdopehiphop I don’t hold authority over anything lol. Just giving my opinion.
The Goat in hip hop is Lil Wayne period anybody want to debate me I dare them to!!!
@@astepaya4274 no he aint debate over XD
This video was cathartic to listen to.
Em has two traits that have always separated him from the rest.
1. He's wired differently. The inherent, innate, organic talent he has is untouchable. It's virtually a disease.
2. He relentlessly, obsessively studies rap. As opposed to wasting his time on whatever it is his competition is wasting their time on.
Those two qualities create this monstrous, powerful tidal wave of creativity that is basically unstoppable.
The man never stopped improving. Who else has done that?? He's evergreen. and he's THE GOAT.
He hasn’t released anything substantial after the eminem show.
The most important lane in Em's music is the emotional and passionate Em.
Mockingbird, Cleaning Out My Closet, Rock Bottom, Castle & Arose, Deja Vu, Beautiful, When I'm Gone
Exactly, those songs touch you in your soul
True!
Every one of those songs is a masterpiece
EXACTLY
One of the reasons I came to like him and consider him the goat was because of the passionate and emotional songs, likes of
Lose Yourself, Not Afraid, Bad Guy, Cinderella Man, Best Friend, Guts Over Fear (one of his most underrated songs), Leaving Heaven, Legacy, Headlights, Believe, Phenomenal, Till' I Collapse, You're Never Over, 8 Mile
Wrote these off the top of my head, if I think and write I can go on and on.
Don't forget Kim!
Eminems technical abilities never cease to amaze me. The way he can use and combine metaphors and synonyms and compound syllables and stack it all into a complex rhyme scheme and some how turn it all into a double or triple entendre at the same time is mind boggling and intriguing to me. The mans pen in incredible.
You might say that Eminem checks a lot of boxes.
all of them!
Thing is Eminem is my idol in rap and to me the best. Albums ranging from SSLP to recovery, anything after isn’t my style but still the love is there and no one can put any other rapper above him.
Jay z
I think lyrically hes better now but Old Em sound hit different on an emotional level.
@@agipson101
Nope only considered in the US.. the rest of the world knows what's up
The reason I like Eminem is cause I can relate to a lot of his songs
Exactly Bingo and you said it right there the only reason why Eminem is King is because the majority of white people can relate to his words doesn't make him the king of a culture that's not his we can relate to Michael Jordan in basketball but basketball is really not our culture we just good at it like Eminem is they will never take Michael Jordan and put him as the NBA logo and take that white man Jerry West down so they need to stop trying to do that with Eminem and trying to Elvis Presley Hip Hop
See that where you & I are different I think Jordan is the goat of the NBA I don't look at someone's color I look at the way they they are as a person most of the reaction channels I watch are #nolifeshaq #stevieknight #AOK & I watch these cause they are great at there craft not cause of color I respect them as a person
@Audio and whips let's stop it who you talkin to we know how this political system works when it comes to this Africans and other 3rd world countries are going to follow whatever is popular in America. I don't care if it's Africa palestine's Mexico Dominican Republic they all follow what America puts out and White America puts out everything that deceives the world but we're not going to get into all that political s*** we keeping in music and the same thing applies to music whatever the Billboards put out front that's what the world's going to follow but that don't mean it's true if they say roaches are the best thing in the world Mexicans are going to hop on that and Africans who don't know any better they're going to hop on that because the white man says it and it's on a white man CNN and Fox News and that's what they going to follow
It can successfully be argued that Eminem (the artist and the “brand”) has had more impact on music than any artist since The Beatles. Let’s face it, as soon as it became obvious that staggering sums of money could be made, the rhythm complexity in Country music changed, lyric structure was influenced, rap features became somewhat commonplace, etc… It would be difficult to find a writer who hasn’t flirted with basic bar writing, as a method of conveying multiple messages within a limited time. It’s just economical. And Marshall made it “legal.”
Would firmly put that on the hair metal bands of the 80's and after that NWA.
Hell, would Eminem have been doing controversy for controversy's sake without Dre?
No one in music has more clones than Lil Wayne stop it, Wayne actually has artists out here looking just like him easily the most influential in music ever.
Well before eminem Rap was the least popular music genre and least selling. When eminem came rap became the biggest and most selling genre of music So single handedly eminem made rap the biggest music genre in the world. And I'd have to sit here for days listing all the things eminem has done for the culture! He is the GOAT and is amazingly humble
That’s hilarious! How do you “clone” someone, when you can’t do what they can do? I’m not saying anyone could clone Wayne either. But ya got a better shot than trying to pull off an Eminem cipher.
@@JymBritton my English is not the best maybe clone isn’t the word I was trying to use perhaps copy is better but you get my point you said Em is the most influential that’s a lie nobody has inspired more artists than Wayne period
1. Rock bottom
2. Brain damage
3. Say what you say
4. Till I collapse
5. Zeus (but really spot number 5 can be filled with any song from his last 3 albums)
Rockbottom is my fav 🔥
I would have loose yourself in there and probably Toy soldiers but great 👍👌 top 5
@@raindeer2580 I tried to pick a wide variety of songs throughout his discography
Dam right Stevie, ems a fucking beast. GOAT for sure 🔥 he morphs hip hop into his own.
REAL TALK.🐐
You do realize that someone is truly a G.O.A.T when you starting running out of words to describe how great that person really is and how much have done and still doing in the music industry. 😎👊
Even if they give names of songs there's literally no one that can go toe to toe with Eminem hands down.
You always say you don't listen to Eminem outside of the reactions. But is there at least one song that did make it to your regular Playlist? Or the song that has the highest potential of making it your your every day Playlist?
He won't admit 😂
He bumps 'Till I Collapse 10000% (everyone does it)
Because Stevie work out a lot and 'Till I Collapse is the mother of all workout songs🔥
And other bunch of Em songs most probably, but 'Till I Collapse is 100% in his playlist
he couldn't breakdown venom cuz he was boppin to it; that I bet is in his playlist haha
@@mr.roobzz1119 speculation? Or do you know this as a fact
The first that comes to my mind is "Venom" because he was dancing too much to break it down. "Mosh" is his favorite woke Eminem song. "Soldier" might be one... He really vibed to "Favorite Bitch" too. Sure there are a dozen I could think of based on his reactions to them. I would like to know too.
Would love to one day get Em to hop on and do a interview with you man and just talk rap. His writing process, thinking of shit, ect. Would be incredible.
When I listen to Ems Serial killer type shit its like Im watching a movie through his lyrics. Its impressive how he made so many goofy songs along with hard hitting stuff. His ability to be silly and corny while also being able to go hard and be emotional makes him someone you wanted to root for.
Man em is a beast!! He ends careers
1- Kings never die
2- Stan
3- Till i collapse
4- The way i am
5- Leaving Heaven
Em for life cause of these five songs: When I am gone, Going Through Changes, Beautiful, Not Afraid, Sing for the Moment
I listen to a spectrum of rap and can honestly say that if Em was Black he wouldn't have sold what he has sold but if Em was Black there would be no question as to whether he's the GOAT. An entire industry of reactions and lyric breakdowns have been built on this man. If it was about him being white, why have the other white rappers not been revered in the same way?
A common knockback people make is his discography. Let's address this. Keep it real: if another rapper released his worst they would be critically acclaimed and highly rated. If this was measured on albums Kanye or Dre could be the GOATs but they're nowhere near. This boy has 3 classics. Albums is one variable, but not the only one.
If you want to move past his albums and what he has sold, let's talk impact. Eminem was one of those who made it fashionable to be hyper lyrical and introspective in the mainstream.
Eminem is different. No rapper has beat him on a track. A few have drawn or equalled him but he's not been beaten. How many other rappers can say that?
Eminem at the start of his career was about making albums and rewriting hiphop and shedding the battle rapper label. The Eminem of now is ultra competitive and is about doing what other rappers can't do. He wants to outdo every one. The battle rapper has gone back to being a battle rapper.
What sealed the deal for me is his love for the culture. My favourite song in his discography is untouchable. Not because it does anything new but it for me is a testament to his understanding of the Black experience. He spoke on our experience and did what most Black rappers don't even do. He used his platform and privilege to attack racism and privilege to which he is a part of.
Jay Z is the fashionable answer, the heart's answer. If you don't lie to yourself and look past the weird content he has had at times Eminem is the GOAT. It just isn't fashionable to say it.
It would take this dude to pass away for HipHop to give him his flowers
U must not listen to alot of rap n hip hop
Facts..Im from South Africa and I can tell you EM is big here as well.. Americans are the only one who discredit Em, dont know why? We love Jay Z, Black Thought, Pac & Nas but none have the versatility of Em. Id say Pac is the closest to that. Jay Z always talks abiit money and flossing, not much deepness, maybe early Jay Z.. Em has a song for every feeling.. Em is the Goat.
@@agipson101 that's always the same reply to anyone praising Em . I ll flip it back on u though have u listenend to Em ? Not once but serious listen give it a try ...
The point you are missing is if Eminem was black he could not of came out with slim shady and all that other stuff and talking about killing Kim the hip hop police would of been all over him and there would not have been no 8 mile movie
There is no streets in Eminem so if he was black he doesn't even get on he was Marylin Manson in rap form period
Em is definitely the G. O. A. T been my no 1 since 96 infinite album no one comes close till this day
In relationship to his pen, his ability to adapt to styles, his ability to work with some of the strangest beats ever, his creativity, and his storytelling? YES, YES, YES! Em is absolutely one of the GOATS to ever pick up the mic.
That doesn't mean that his lyrics or subject-matter is for YOUR personal tastes. But when simply admitting the skill level required? There is no doubt that Em is a GOAT.
Facts, I have other MCs over Eminem cuz they've been more consistent and all that but if you look only at the skill there's no doubt about who's the greatest of all time and it's nobody but Em
@@damianoabbina9967 Eminem has to be in everyone’s Top 5 and they just need to know that he is just the GOAT… if they don’t they’re just haters, racist, etc.
@@generobertson6544 skill wise he MUST be top 5 but overall I wouldn't be mad if someone would put him in a top 10 or in a top 20 even though I wouldn't agree at all
@@generobertson6544 that really isnt smart. Like the other guy said skillwise i got him in my 5 too. I know ppl who got not Em on that list but i see why they put those other rappers on 5 i can respect that. Nobody is a racist or hater here, conversations like this starts with ppl like u who spell this words without thinking.
U influence comes from those ppl u can relate and there are ppl who can relate to em and ppl who cant because they never lived this life he is talking about. It is what it is
@@generobertson6544 Top 5s or Top anything lists when it comes to rappers are as subjetive as it gets. Any preference can be a Top 5. When it comes to judging someones pen, lyricists have different reasons for their pen. For example, I gravitate towards Nas than I do Eminem because Nas' pen spoke about the hood etc. Eminem has never done that since he's not from that style of life. But when it comes to being technical af with the pen in a skill set, Eminem is no doubt the bar setter for that and that's coming from someone who isnt even a fan of Eminem.
P.S, I don't have a Top anything list for anyone. Lyricists attack the pen in different styles, I don't believe in this "Goat" conversation, it's corny.
DETROIT IN THE HOUSE!
Let's get it Knight Nation!
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It's honestly not even close...Eminem is undoubtedly the GOAT.
I love Eminem and he’s undoubtedly one of the GOAT but comments like this are disrespectful! There are at least 10-25 other emcees who can compete with him lyrically to impactful/pioneer etc.
Eminem is the GOAT regardless of what any hater says 🐐🐐
Eminem has been killing it for over 2 decades. He’s still killing it now, no sign of him easing up. Of course he’s the GOAT. People come, people go - he changed the rap game, no one will ever have the impact that he had. He’s untouchable.
He did not have a great album since the eminem show, and he was really the greatest rapper only on his debut and some songs of mmlp. Then his lyrics became awkward bc he rapped anything to fit the rhyme pattern, too much multisyllable rhymes not saying nothing, terrible beats, completely lost his musicality (on his early albums he was using all these rhyme schemes to sound good on the beat, then his verses became chaotic ugly etc.). Completely lost his sense of humor, his song kill you is more creative than all his discography after the eminem show put together)
He should've ended his career after the eminem show, then he could be in goat conversation, everything after that is only destroying his legacy
Chloreseptic, Moon man and slim, Friday night cypher, killer remix. Etc..
These are all fire tracks to name a few. You can't compete with Slim. Everybody knows he's the rap god. Everyone else taps out.
@@dominikkorzatkowski4184 You are wildin'. "
Too much multisyllable rhymes not saying nothing": Uh... this is just so untrue that it isn't even up for debate.
Terrible Beats: Subjective to the listener.
Lost his musicality: Again... no. This is a line someone that's just trying to be a hater would say.
Eminem is not my favorite rapper--in my top ten probably--but you can't, as a fan of hiphop, diss the man's pen. Just ain't happening.
@@Sharrayzen I am judging him according to the bar he set in his early music. Plus analyze the lyrics of lose yourself, they are terrible. He even admits that he often raps anything that happens to fit the rhyme pattern. His verses on renegade sound amazing but he is not really saying anything. To be in goat conversation you cannot put out an album as terrible as recovery.
You nailed it. “Anything you can do, I can do better.”
That is what makes Em the goat for me
if you wake me up at 3 a.m. i could list at least 40 em songs that are up there with the 5-10 greatest hits pretty much everyone in this discussion has
still putting out classics at 48 lol
People are caught up in hating him but when we look back on some of his recent stuff, we will appreciate it more.
@@yrudonking exactly lol
you have to listen to it a few times
Please react to Going Through Changes mann I’ve been waiting for it for monthsss🔥🔥🔥🔥
he only listens to his Patreon 😔
@@codymayer6335 damnn i subbed to his patreon for 1 month but it ended yesterday
i first heard eminem at 12 years old and im 31 now, and Eminem is still fire to this day. Also Em is humbel and pays respect to thoes before him. Id say hes g.o.a.t.e.d!!
I’m so glad Stevie finally came straight out and said it. Really appreciate the way you describe it man. I’ve watched enough of you to know you’re not biased too. Keep em coming
Being in Detroit and growing up listening 2 him more then half my life, really help me grow up and gave me fuel to b confident no matter where im at. Its more then music for me.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.. MARSHALL THE GOAT SINCE INFINITE😉
SSLP I think takes a while to stomache fully but ones you do it's really a bliss. Top 5 90s album for me
Bruh! I'm sharing this video with all my m8s! Well fucking spoken my man! I love your hip hop ears, and your honest opinion! Respect!
I would say yes, he’s been relevant so long, still topping charts, technically superior to most, and still creating buzz 🔥
true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Word Stevie! Talk that shit dawg!
Marsh has to be one of the most lyrical raps in the history of rap. PERIOD!
Very rare for ppl to be open minded, objective, unbiased even if someone isn’t one of their favorites. I always try to do this and respect when others do it!
The fact that he puts his whole heart and current emotions into his music without a filter.
I don't include lyrical or bar heavy songs or happy or "talk your shit" into my list because the list for those is too long.
My 5 would be for each lane:
1. Stan (story)
2. Sing for the moment (impact)
3. No apologies (self reflection)
4. Difficult (heartbreak / sadness)
5. either Mosh or White America (Politics)
i dont see 'Difficult' on the list often, intresting choice
There is Nothing to talk about. Eminem the GOAT
Him, DOOM, K Dot, Andre and Aesop is what the top 5 is to me
@Anand Thanks, man
I first used to hate DOOM now i am starting to realise how much of a genius he is .Madvillainy is crazy 🤯
@@karthikb8714 Same lol
@@user-uq9dc8cr3c stevie should react to DOOM .Can you tell me where to start with Aesop everything i've heard from him is too complex that i dont have the patience to decode those lyrics.
@@karthikb8714 No Regrets is the most straightforward song I've heard from him. I've analyzed some of the stuff he says on his Labor track and it's on genius, if you're interested. Also Klutz and Dorks are pretty complex but not as much as his Labor Days songs
Man ow man cant wait for his next album, hope it comes out its gonna be crazzzzy man i m getting pumped
That Freestyle where he Rhymed "Keepin' it raw" every line of the entire freestyle was amazing...
Ems tickin' boxes
5 in a versus:
Don't Front
Untouchable
Stan
Sing for the Moment
The Way I Am
If you doubt how he goes toe to toe with his peers:
- Renegade
Remember the Renegade we know isn't the original version. Jay Z had time with that track and Em didn't need to rewrite his verses once he got it back, that's how safe he felt next to Jay.
For me eminem is the GOAT and he always will be
You nailed it, he's a Goat because his style can fit any era, period, he raps always ahead f his time, whether you relate with the subject matter or not, his style is translucent
People tend to forget that there's a world outside of AMERICA.
And Eminem has the biggest IMPACT in the world when it comes to Hip-hop.
I listen to eminem all the time, never have i seen rhymes and flow so impresivr and mesmarizing, I have been rocking the relapse album all the time. My favs are:
same song and dance
3am
Stay wide wake
Hello
Deja Vu and
Beautifull
Man I've listen to for 14/15 years and you go through stages of listening to a certain album and like 3-5 songs overtake everything else. 2 years later you go elsewhere and that cycle repeats endlessly. Fucking amazing.
@@joeperry3191 for real, so much timeless music
Need to add some from the deluxe refill version! Music Box, Elevator, Buffalo Bill all 🔥imo. Would add Underground also. We need Em over that type of banging Dre production and/or a mix of classic boom bap or soulful HipHop beats!
Em link up with Primo, Alchemist, Pete Rock, Erick Sermon, Buckwild, KNO, Stu Bangas, Apollo Brown, Statik Selektah, Marco Polo and ppl like that!
Yea here’s a list,
longevity, consistency, versatility, pen ability, impact for the culture, awards/album sales and inspiration. Eminem has all of that.
Nas been doing this since 92 way longer Em and without commercial success
Krs One is the GOAT
His albums with BDP are monumental in influence
His solo career added he has 23 albums
He wrote Sound of the Police and Black Cop
He trained by going to the library, and battling in the Shelter system where he lived in Hip Hop origin borough the Bronx
He threw PM Dawn offstage at his own concert and fucked Nelly up bad on some diss tracks
And of course he did The Bridge is Over a part of a diss history so powerful it had people from Queens getting made fun of for years I think it was?
His live shows are legendary, many performers have stories about making the mistake of being like “We’ll go onstage after Krs One” and the crowd expects more energy than possible when the time comes
Plus he’s Tha Teacha and has enlightened so many artists. Sublime wrote him a whole tribute song in the 1990s where the chorus was “I know because of Krs One”
Check out Hip Hop lives which is him working with Marley Marl if you want to hear an example of masters working together
In my opinion, for a rapper to be considered the GOAT he has to have these 4 things:
1. Technical ability - flows, rhyme schemes, punchlines, etc
2. Storytelling - every GOAT rapper needs to know how to tell a story imo
3. Freestyle / Rap Battle skills - for a rapper to be considered the GOAT he needs to be able to body rappers
4. Impact - be it sales or cultural impact without numbers
To me, Eminem checks ALL these boxes and exells at them. Now we just gotta find someone who checks them all too and does it better than him.
You forget 1 thing : have the guts to say what's on your mind even if it means putting your career at risk
@@loosekanonstan3648 I agree, I could’ve gone a lot deeper with what you said, creativity, etc. these are just the basics that I feel every rapper needs to have in order to be considered a GOAT. Each of these topics can go a lot deeper still
@@ropao6310 from my previous comment I was referring to Kamikaze after Revival got trashed by critics. Yeah bruh, I agree with you 100 %
Yo creo que Eminem es el GOAT, definitivamente, por su catálogo, su permanencia en la cúspide, por el respeto que le tienen los Mc's como Rakim, Jay, Wayne, Nas, todos los grandes lyricistas lo respetan, tiene el mayor fan base del mundo del Rap. Además es un tipo respetuoso de sus maestros y sus contemporáneos.
Concuerdo contigo al 💯
Stevie!!! We could all do with a 'KINGS NEVER DIE'.. 2.0... First video was fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The fact that an Eminem album drop RUMOR alone will shut down the internet for weeks. People will go into a FRENZY when they hear a simple RUMOR about him dropping. You can kind of compare it to like, Get a drug addict in a room with a bunch of containers and tell them that heir next fix is in one of them" and watch them go crazy trying to get to it. Eminem is the ONLY rapper that causes that kind of "feeding frenzy" from a simple RUMOR of an album drop.
Love your videos man!!!!! Keep up the amazing work!!!!
😂 If you dunno what you're gonna or wanna dive into on Marshall Monday then PLEASE drop that 'Offended' track for next one from ur vault of patrons shit Stevie. Been asking for this for a long ass time. ‼️
Thanks for keeping it 💯 Stevie. That's why we follow you.
I would have liked you running through some of the top 5 songs..... always down to vibe to greats
The answer is yes he’s the goat at least to me!