What's Next For FM25 After Another Delay? Our Thoughts
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- You will all have heard the news by now that SI have announced the delay to FM25 from November to March.
TJ, RDF Tactics and Si Maggio have managed to quickly get round the table to react to the news that broke earlier today to give their thoughts.
Where does this leave Sports Interactive and Football Manager? Do they still have the trust of the consumer? And what are we going to do for the next six months while we wait for the new game.
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I'll never criticise them for wanting to make the best game possible and not wanting to force out a game that's not finished.
However, they do deserve all the criticism they get for the other stuff. Development updates announcing features being removed, announcing the game with no details of what's in the game, a roadmap with nothing to note on it and the final straw being asking for pre orders then 10/11 days later delaying for another 4 months! They would have known on 30 Sept that the games in a bad way. If they had just announced the delay then it would have being received a bit better.
Si also contradicts himself big time by saying they wouldn't have known 10 days ago but then goes onto explain that the decision to delay would have been discussed before 30 Sept.
Hey,
Si here. I think I explain that but for clarity;
What I mean is the original decision to delay was likely taken more than 10 days ago and would have been submitted and subject to approval by sega, partners, etc. Approval on that could have taken any amount of time (it’s irrelevant really). In between that delay request being submitted and yesterday they anticipated that it will take them longer, for whatever reason(s). I’m this scenario they then have to go back to Sega and partners and ask again, maybe with a greater sense of importance and urgency given the impending announcements and release, and the game going up for preorder. The decision to announce and put the game on preorder, or delay the game originally was likely made months ago. Even if they knew more 10 days ago they aren’t allowed to just change it.
@@TheFMShowPod Appreciate the reply but I still stick by my point, I'm not implying they did it as a money grab or anything. The June 2024 blog laid the foundations for them struggling by removing features, the 4th Sept blog was another admittance by them the games in no state. They shouldn't have even got to the point of announcing pre orders or anything on 30 Sept in my opinion.
It's entirely possible they had no idea on the 30th September things were as bad as they thought in terms of timelines. I work in software delivery and what looks on the surface to be a one or two sprint fix can morph into a 5 month job the more you get into debugging. I'm releasing software next month that we should have delivered in Summer because the new tech we were using to replace our old systems suddenly had big problems translating responses and we found that we had to re-write 25% of our codebase because it would never be truly stable otherwise. Originally my devs told me they could get it fixed in a week. Snowballing is real. (Watching a dev slowly unravel when they realise the enormity of what they have to do is fascinating)
It's very likely SI hit a huge performance show stopping issue, that their devs looked at and said originally "Give me a couple of sprints and we can get it fixed" only for them to get one sprint in and be "Actually, no, this is a whole rewrite of the module" or "our third party vendor has to write something new to fix this and they have a lead in time and can't start till January" or any number of things of that nature.
It's very simplistic to say "They would have known at the time" because from experience it's common that isn't the case at all.
They would have planned for delays, all good product owners do, they will have a contingency plan for "If this isn't done by November what do we do" and possibly already had agreements in place ready to go for a March release in case of emergency when they had the original conversations with stakeholders and licensors. However it doesn't mean that just because they plan for something, they know it's gonna have to happen.
@@mushxxl744 that’s probably true. But these things happen and that’s for them to sort internally. No point getting angry about it as a consumer- just disappointment.
@@Just-Wool this is exactly my thinking around this. Very well put!
Are you kidding, Clearly they released pre-orders knowning the game wasn't ready...The delusion
Yes. they released the launch date, the pre-orders and roadmap knowing full well that game was nowhere near ready for release. No idea if that was from pressure by Sega or not, but they've now painted themselves into a corner where it has to be amazing when it's released in March.
Why would they do that? That doesn’t benefit them in any way.
Remember it’s not one person. It’s a studio that needs approval for everything from partners and sega.
For example- maybe someone in the match engine team realised it probably won’t be ready to the standards they want, but pressure from Sega was that it was close to a state ready to at least release.
@@TheFMShowPod 1. Getting money from pre-orders (in the same financial quarter as planned) is benefiting them in a very obvious way, no? It's not that everyone is cancelling their pre-orders now ...
2. Also the other 'strong' message they send out with this is: 'the game will be released, dont worry, everybody stay calm, it's alive, you can pre-order it, see' ... which btw puts even more pressure on the poor development team to potentially crunch ...
About the 'it could be one thing' that's causing the delay suddenly and this wasn't planned: What supports this theory?
In the majority of cases of development delays it's because of a lot of quality concerns summing up and becoming too much too handle - and that is very obvious to people working on the games before 1,2 month of the planned release. Pretty sure if it would be 'one surprise issue suddenly' they would pull all sorts of strings to fix it (with quite a lot of money and support from Unity - it's big for them too), because like you pointed out the misery of secondary issues this causes - looking at you fm 26 - is gigantic.
@@TheFMShowPodan argument would be they needed to prove to Sega the game was still viable. So they released pre orders to show Sega xx amount of people are willing to pre order fm25 so Sega don't panic and would agree to later date with this guaranteed sales. From a business stance u can see why they did it. From a consumer stance manipulating your own fan base to cover your ass for your own mistakes is extremely poor.
@@TheFMShowPod sure it does they get a handful of pre-orders in their pockets that people won't refund. More still you can STILL pre -order if you're stupid enough too.
There are a lot of community comments where you can justifiably say "that's tin foil hat thinking" Si, but trying to claim they didn't know a further delay was highly likely 12 days ago when they announced pre-orders with an empty roadmap is not one of them. Your explanation that they found problems that they hadn't found already only goes to prove the point that they must have been miles behind on testing at a point in which they should be getting to alpha/beta builds. No blame on the devs working on it, highly likely the time they were given to complete the job was doomed from the start. But those senior people pushing to get a game out in Nov and not having contingency plans in place to delay sooner is a justifiable criticism, no matter how good the final product may or may not be in March.
They may have known but they also probably didn't have authorisation to announce the delay or not have preorders available. They will have release mandates with Sega and they probs couldn't get any authorisation for that
How far out do you think the talk of "we might not have time to do this in time and to the right standards" first started? Enough time to bring SEGA into the loop and at least have contingency plans and get that authorisation before announcing pre-orders? I appreciate some of this might be easily said in hindsight, but questions can quite rightly be asked. Whether we get answers or not is another thing.
The “tin foil hat” thinking is specifically the idea that they did this maliciously or on purpose to get pre-order money. Si
@@TheFMShowPod Fine, and I would tend to agree I think it's more likely due to poor planning and lack of transparency with SEGA rather than a malicious money grab.
The blame, if we are using that word, lies with Miles and the management team. Miles is normally very active on X, his silence is deafening. I have said for a while the FM marketing is utterly pathetic and what’s happened recently confirms that.
I will commend SI for pushing the game back to March, but i have to criticise them for doing it a week after releasing a roadmap. Surely they knew the game wasn't ready, if they are trying to be open and honest, that was a chance.
I doubt they will add in international management to FM25, i think the delay would be the game is a mess as is. They won't add things back to it while its a mess. They have a few months additional now to blow people away with what the game will be, bht they have done quite a bit of damage to there rep with this years mess. Just hope the new roadmap/plan will be match engine first revele.
Having spent some time working in develoment I'm almost 100% that they knew the game was nowhere near ready for release when they opened it up for pre-order (possibly under pressure from Sega, possibly not, can't speculate about that). If you've managed the project properly, a situation that would cause the launch to be delayed for six months doesn't happen overnight, or in the space of a week. This is all about project management and it looks like it's been managed very badly. I get that delays happen and it is what it is, but they really need to seriously look at their marketing and PR. It's likely their agreement with Sega means they have to release something before the end of the financial year and March is as late as that could be pushed back. As a company that only releases one game a year they also have to release something before the end of the financial year as otherwise they'd probably fold. They're now in the situation where it has to be amazing when it's released in March. There's A LOT riding on this now.
Spot on. The commentariat keep talking as if SI is a single person. There are layers to this. The folks writing the code and the folks writing press releases are rarely in agreement, even when things launch on time. @simaggio tried to explain this too. It's how large teams work (or don't! )
This announcement isn't a surprise to me at all, sadly. That September announcement when Miles was going to cancel holidays to help the team "focus" is project speak for 'we are in trouble, folks!' 😢
It still could be awesome in March. There might be features back in. There is also a non-zero probability that the next FM release is not on unity. None of us really know how bad the new code is.
Fascinating point about the idea that international management could be put back in due to the introduction of women's football - hadn't considered that.
I think they fully intended to release the game in November in whatever state it was in and, in part, rely on the goodwill of the community to carry it through a 4-5 month hell cycle of patching and hot fixing.
The reaction to the first delay as well as the road map and other elements showed that perhaps the the goodwill isn't quite as sound as they'd hoped and it wouldn't be enough to see them through resulting in the decision to just pull it entirely (why else would you open pre-orders and offer no Beta less than 2 weeks before admitting you need 5 more months dev)
As for the timeline of the delay, it's entirely possible that the game won't be in the a launch state in March and that the March date is a red line dictated by the financial year requirements of both SI and SEGA. If you budget/forecast for a yearly sports game and that game doesn't come out in the financial year it's a big hole to plug.
I'd heavily temper expectations for March because, while I'd be shocked if it was delayed again (for the reasons above), I don't think this time will be used to polish and fine tune the game (or add missing features) but just to get it in a passable state to release.
The hardcore consumer (You know the ones actually watching a podcast about FM) are the ones who have made this game popular and carried it. They are just repeating the cycle of greed that happens with all game studios, eventually the player's who have been around forever don't matter and the players that the company is chasing take priority. Seen this song and dance before, FM was fun while it lasted.
The anger and rage... Way out of proportion. I wouldn't have minded if they'd opened pre-orders the day after fm24 released. It's not that big of a deal, seriously. SI aren't evil, and they aren't perfect. They're human. Has this whole thing been mishandled? Yeah probably. But give them a break. We've all been really spoiled for around a decade with this process running like clockwork. They've earned a bit of trust and faith. I get that it's disappointing, but... Come on. Stop clicking the 'fire up' shout.
No ‘probably’ about it. It’s a PR shambles of the highest order. And no I’m not angry. Just very confused that a football game is being released near the end of the season in the continent it’s most sold in.
@@jondickinson1125 I get it. I'd rather they delay and deliver a better product than rush, make the staff crunch and release something completely broken. None of this is ideal - but given the backlash, credit where credit is due. SI put their hand up and essentially said they were wrong. That's not an easy thing to do with people's livelihoods riding on it.
@@Deadpool_2028 I imagine they’re terribly embarrassed by the whole saga. Just the timing and huge pushback seems so so weird.
@@jondickinson1125 Yeah I agree. Miles will need to give a hell of a team talk - all those moral indicators at the studio must be yellow, if not red 😖
Tony, you're my hero. Measured take, covering all the bases. Best FM content by miles.
Agreed, but no need to bring Miles into it. 😋 That guys got enough on his plate right now!
I'm either way buying fm25 regardless I've had my concerns since day one of the unity announcement. Literally the only thing I thought needed an update was the match engine. The new look going to fuck me up for a bit. Actually reminds me a bit of LMA manager. I love the game so I'll support it either way
Love the shows guys.
I've been playing FM since CM3 and will still buy and enjoy FM25, despite the current disappointment.
I just wish SI/Miles managed community expectations and communication better.
There’s been too much room for us to feel differently about FM25, suggesting a disconnect or resource mismanagement.
I get the pressure they're under, but FM25 shouldn't have been treated like a typical release.
Appreciate the discussion. It’s helped me process the news on a game that means so much to me.
And special thanks to Tony for always lifting my spirits with 'Football Manager Ruined My Life!' It never fails to cheer me up on a re-watch!
As a FM fan, I have amped up my interest in playing and watching streams during the International breaks keeping me away from the way to early transfer chat or the silly sky is falling football media. The new Football Manager is like an entirely new game and that rarely happens without serious hiccups and difficulty keeping to a strict timeline. In a way FMers has been pretty spoiled because they can pretty much know when the game is coming out every year. Long live FM!
They dropped the ball in so many ways. And people wanna argue about it. I’ll say what I said on Z’s video:
This is the most eyes that FM has had on it ever. Popular FC creators playing FM24. And they completely dropped the ball and lied to us along the way. This is a huge hit to the community and everyone involved and it could’ve been avoided.
i think the reason people are so angry is because the poor communication from SI from the beggining, its clearly they have NOTHING to show from the match engine and yet they starterd preorder... they should have delayed it earlier.
are the pictures on steam even from ingame...?
Most Football Manager players are older players who don't care about the graphics of the game as you only spend around 30% of the game there. The game is first and foremost a management game run by a small developer that survives on 1 game. I have pre-ordered (and wont be asking for a refund) the game on the fact that it is a management game that I have played since before there was even a 2D match engine and it was only text based so to have any form of match engine is fantastic and I am happy for. So I feel like pre-ordering this release of FM is for those people. If you do care about graphics just wait. they aren't going to run out of copies.
@@TottenhamEz i have played fm for 15 years, i would buy a new fm with no changes at all but db update....
But when they announce that they will be updating the graphics and then a few years later and 2 months to release, preordering starting and they still have showed NOTHING... OFC people are ENRAGED
@@TottenhamEzI'm not sure why people think SI is still some small indie type of developer. FM is one of the most popular games in the world. They are always in the top 50 played games on PC and console.
@@qwertyvypez I didn't say they are an indie developer. I said they are a small developer. They are just owned by a big publisher. S.i develop 1 game FM. Which makes them... A small developer
With all the attribute colouring and data issues (e.g. Fran Kirby having Evan Ferguson's height) it was pretty clear that at least the player screens were mock ups (why they weren't done accurately I can't fathom).
As they need to guarantee FM25 release there is only one way to guarantee it will happen. Facelift FM24 and use the trusty old match engine. Add women's football and the new licenses to FM24 and release it as FM25 pretty much. Maybe still use the new UI. That would explain March release as the time would allow it to be possible.
In relation to the content creation chat: If a content creator is good enough, people will keep watching them. Bottom line imo
Is the geezer in the middle a SI spokesman or something? Certainly sounds like he's on the payroll!
I can confirm I’m not
I actually felt he was the most interesting person there to listen to - no offence to the other guys who I also like. But the guy in the middle sounded very knowledgeable or well considered regarding all different aspects of this whole situation. He was reasonable, objective and thorough in his considerations, not overly emotional like some in other videos.
It's boring if everyone agrees
@@BenMcManus Actually, I'd prefer people to be honest rather than say something to avoid being boring.
@@deejinlondon7285 I don't see why it can't be both, but preferences noted, DJ
In a perfect world I would want them to release a database update and something like a free DLC for FM2024 to convert it into FM2025. Then just release FM2026 next year on time with all the features they planned on removing. Now naturally I'm aware that no publisher will look at a studio and say "Yeah it's completely okay to not release anything".
They could charge a reduced fee for the DLC to keep the cashflow ticking over
Looking at the bigger picture, for the majority of the player base it makes sense to delay it. The game first and foremost has to be a decent product. The disappointing aspect is for several years it has felt like Sports interactives communication could have been better and it seems like this year the communication aspect has come back to bite them on the backside. The whole pre order thing seemed amateurish. Its a big wake up call for not only SI, but also for the FM content creators who have decided to rely on all their income coming from one game.
I would rather have a game well done than half done.Anybody that plays football manager will be disappointed, but hopefully, all will come good in March.
Doubt it'll be perfect in March either
@mw56101 that's why I said hopefully, but I am still think they might ditch it until FM26 if they can do it.
@@Uk..gamer..72 yeah it'll probably be one big beta test for FM26
Si Maggio’s giving them way too much leeway…
Si here.
Why do I need to give them leeway or not? I have no reason to be angry in the first place. Sure I’m disappointed the game isn’t coming next month but there’s more important things in life. I’m just trying to explain the logic behind how we get to this position - doesn’t need to be a “blame-game” because that’s not going to get anyone results
keeping things hidden and secret is NEVER helpful. as FM tends towards hardcore, yearly fans this company should be 100% transparent. show the development every step ... show the very first game/match engine graphics and let us watch as they improve to what they will be at release. same with the UI. getting feedback along the way can only be helpful. the yearly 2 week "beta period" where thousands of players are play testing hundreds of leagues is one of the things that makes the game so good ... embrace that, more of that, extend that to every aspect of the game. get the fans invested in the dev process just as the employees/workers are. one of the hugest most successful games of the past year, baldur's gate 3, came from a studio that embraced this philosophy and had players beta testing the game for years and it did not dampen the excitement or sales it only made the game better and the hype better and the sales better.
I definitely agree with the delay being delayed by corporate paperwork/timeline. There are some disgruntled fans who claim the 10 day window for accepting pre-orders was a money grab (or a way of adding "profits" to the accounts, even if those then had to be refunded). Here's the thing, if that was the actual goal of SI, then they could have waited until we were further into October before announcing the March delay. 15 days of a pre-order "scam" is better than 10, after all. Instead, it sounds like either a further delay was requested and had to be debated in Sega corridors OR the SI overseer from Sega made the call to delay things after seeing/hearing how bad things are with the game.
My biggest criticism over all this is that it's obvious the changeover to Unity has been a challenge. If they've been working on this for years and still need an extra 6-8 months of development time, then it was a colossal mistake to announce the shift last year. Either someone thought the Unity development was miles ahead of where it actually was, that they knew it wasn't while believing those miles would be easy to cross, or FM25 being the first Unity game was an executive decision that didn't consult the programmers.
I'm sorry, but there's no way that SI didn't think such a massive delay was at the very least highly probable, especially taking into account the length of the delay. It wouldn't have been a decision that was just made in the last couple of days after the most recent news. To make pre-orders open and expect fans to pay from now, despite knowing the probability of such a long delay occurring is scummy.
I completely agree with Aaron here and what he’s trying to say. I won’t be as nice about it - SI have been really bad communicators for years. But this is the tip of the iceberg, where it just frankly looks dodgy, even if they weren’t trying to be. Had they actually fulfilled their improved communication promises in the past then we could maybe give them leeway here, but it’s just compounded on what was already bad.
I actually don’t trust SI at all, and my love for them as a studio has gone.
I will wait obviously to see what they eventually put out. But I’m no longer excited. FM24 is dead for me personally. So I’m at a place where I’m going to look at other games which I might become more passionate about going forward.
Another thought I have had is how sales will be hurt… who wants to pay full price for a game in march then again in November? Surely they need to maybe consider FM26 to be JUST an update giving them an extra year to nail FM27
I'm in the disappointed camp; but i'd rather they released a game that was actually playable than just shove something out and see it crash & burn - i know they wouldn't do it, but i'd love SI to release some scenario challenges for FM 24 to keep us going. I'm sure (i *think*) that an older FM had a Challenge mode in which it gave you a game-load scenario and you had to see if you could do better; showing my age (as i've probably got it completely wrong and just made it up), but I'm sure one of them was to do with Middlesbrough and Gareth Southgate in which you took over half way through the season to try and avoid relegation. I'd love to try Derby County 07/08 on the FM 24 engine; or, given the licensing issues of such, give us some new scenarios - that'd tide me over, and probably give content-creators something too...
Who's gonna buy the game on March? Season we'll be almost over. Also, who's gonna buy Manager 26, with just a few months of development?
Also... listen... I've been playing the game since 97' and I'm a really loyal & dedicated FM player, however not having a game for a year isn't the end of the world.
I understand your concern, since you make a living out of it through your (great) videos, but we'll just keep on playing our current saves.
The major concern atm is FM26. Since they decided to go on with the release of FM25 on March (imho it's a poor decision), there will be minimum time for updating/upgrading fm26. So, instead of buying FM25, which will we a work-in-progress game for sure, just buy FM26 and be done with it.
FM26 will be like a patch for FM25, so why spend double money?
If they (SI) were just upfront and honest about the state of FM from the beginning, I'd be willing to cut them alot more slack.
Bad, evasive, misleading marketing is worse than no marketing as it just raises suspicions.
Tony Jameson the best hairline in fm! Well played sir 👏
Not hard competition to be fair.
I’m enjoying it while I can, it’s clearly receding 😂
I suspect Sega allowed the small Nov delay and if pre-orders had of been good they would have launched the deeply flawed game and tried to patch it, but since pre-orders were bad Sega backed down to SI and allowed a more lengthy delay.
I'm disappointed of course. But on the other hand I'm starting my 10th season for a save I started with Jablonec in Czechia and I've just got the Inter job - I thought I'd only have a season or two but now it's going to a lot more than that!
Full on career time!
Kudos to SI for not releasing a bad game. Not really clear to me why the world should care about the destiny of a bunch of streamers who decided to go all in on a single videogame
Agreed. That’s why we discussed the impact on the consumer. There’s a lot more consumers than creators affected.
@tonyjamesonFM I am pretty sure the vast majority of consumers is very happy to wait FM26 if the alternative is to go through one of those tragic releases that recently happened in the gaming industry. FM24 is an amazing vudeogame, and there are tons of other amazing videogames to play.
@@VurtAddictedI think you’re a bit naive if a vast majority are okay to wait. No one is truly happy there’s just certain degrees of the unhappiness
@briancook4068 do you really think two million humans care about a videogame being delayed? They don't. It's a problem for those making a living on it, not for customers.
It is a shame they are delaying FM25, I get maybe licensing issues but a DLC for FM24 with up to date data would be good.
When it comes to point scoring, Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men just want to watch the world burn".
As a Cities Skylines player which is also in Unity, I think the delay is probably a good thing
Very true! That was a disaster - Si
Not the news we all wanted, but I feel sorry for the Full Time FM content creators. I would say some may have to get a temp job until March
FM25 released, what is the point? 2 months before the end of the season. Less than 6 months before FM26. It doesn't matter how perfect it is, if its more than £20, I'm not buying.
Yeah… naaaaah. Asking for preorders when there was a chance that this would happen is a breach of the trust shown by some in the FM community. It stinks. This is a 5 MONTH delay, not a couple of weeks, how do you not know 10 days ago that there is 5 months of work missing… come on guys 🫤
At least now the name of the game matches the year of release, to put a (desperately) positive spin on it!
I haven't played, or really invested in FM for the past two years... despite purchasing 23 and 24
I've found it hard to get into and got in to other managerial sims. I'm not impressed with Sports Interactive's actions.
The only way to play FM25 is to use FM24, download the transfer embargo mod, start a new save with that mod seleted and holiday 1 year.
You will be playing FM25 but in own world mode only.
Jobs available will be which club has no manager at the start of the 24/25 season.
Liverpool rebuild.
FM25 delayed? New save started this morning. Just holidayed for 5 years and now am the new manager of Nordsjaelland with the goal of winning the champions league.
This simply confirmed the fears the community had. Also not sure how will this affect future releases and database updates from SI.
Good video ,I understand peoples frustrations about preordering games and then the game being delayed alot of developers have done it all the time, i was wondering why sports interactive delay the game then mention there will be advanced access but not mention early access before the delay ,
All i see is a shit show and SI trying to pass the buck onto Sega 😂😂
What could possibly be the only year Marine are on the default database, FM goes into meltdown
While were speculating, i dont think that roadmap was ready to go out, i think somebody screwed up, i've worked in offices for years, human error happens.
They took our pre orders than delayed 10 days later
That's a scam
so i wasn't going to buy it until next year anyway so i don't start a game before the patches.... not really bothered by the delay EXCEPT for taking preorders less than 2 weeks before announcing the 4 month delay.
i really don't understand the logic behind not showing the match engine in progress at this point. if you are upfront that you are already working on making it better, than an early version of the visuals would probably go a long way towards expressing the difficulty of remaking it in unity
also finish Greece if you can Tony
You 3 should do a network save
We spoke about it…
Arron would win and Tony would get sacked....
If they continue with that will roadmap rollout in Jan it will kill all hype imo! They need to go balls out in Jan when presenting it
It’s all to do with the Unity engine, look how many devs of other games are complaining about the engine’s input system! Why did SI not use UE5 !!
They actually talk a little about their decision in the Unity conference talk that went up the other day.
Thing about Unity is - I've never seen it be used to produce amazing graphics when compared with UE
@@SiMaggioexactly, Unity is like an entry level engine, it’s easy to use, but UE5 is superior in every way. I think SI might regret using Unity! This is not to sh*t on Miles or his team , I’m behind them all the way … let’s go Miles ⚽️
Getting some pes/konami vibes here..they promised us a new game in the unreal engine in 2022 and we are still waiting for master league and its almost 2025..
It’s obviously disappointing but…. I’m ok with the delay…. The first delay was like 2 weeks but then it feels like they would be rushing to get it done….. this way at least now they have time to get it right and maybe look at people’s comments and make a few changes to suit what the fans want
I feel like pre order push was from Sega. Theyve done it before
Also im still enjoying 24. ❤
It was definitely out of SI's hands, to suggest they weren’t aware of an impending delay 12 days ago seems pretty naive though.
Looks like Tony has had a good night out in Leeds with a t shirt to show for it
I’ve got no idea what any of this means…
@@tonyjamesonFM it’s a well known place in Leeds. Don’t google Winston’s Leeds though your missus won’t be happy. Have a lovely weekend thanks for video
Are we worried guys. Who cares if it's delayed. It's still going to be a great game!.
March is too late just delay it and call it FM 26 come end august window or November, I won’t be buying come march way too late for me into the season it’s practically the end of
March = before the end of the tax year
Can some please make the dog on the leash GTA meme with Sports Interactive holding back Si Maggio. All this that’s is going on and dude is still caping for SI
I’m as disappointed as anyone else. But it’s clear many people haven’t worked in large companies on large projects with many partners to tough deadlines. I’m not trying to be an apologist, just explain why it is how it is.
Been working on this game for 2 + years and u are telling me they have absolutely NOTHING NOTHING to show us!!!!
Tony is just going with blind faith and hoping it’ll be fine 😂
Its a bold stance to take given that you havent listend to the whole episode.