The Darmoshark M3 is genuinely quite good for the price, I was pleasantly surprised. I have large hands so I wish the grip width was a little more, but it's impressing me so far! There are some complaints like coating is not as good as others, but for the money it's hard to beat. I'm glad your measurements show it's as technically impressive as it seems.
I got the N3 last month for USD$30 with discount here in SEA, I chose it over the M3 because of the shape and size and my copy doesn't have any side creaking. I could've gotten the M3s mini if it was released sooner but the N3 is a really good mouse for my hand.
I would love to see more of these budget round ups as you give us the actual numbers and evaluate the shape better than some of the other reviewers for grip type.
Yes yes we need u to compare the 4K tech on these budget wireless mice! Theres is even a mini darmoshark M3 (M3s Varun) which sports the 2K polling rate, which i think would interests much wider audience (since 4K needs a much higher spec on ur pc and atleast 240hz display)
@@VinnyUnion new tech, better and more future proof to buy darmoshark m3 4k than to buy a branded 1k mouse, I ordered it myself waiting to get it in 1-3 weeks
@@claimdud3104 gimmick. I have like a decade old mice and don't seem to have much of an issue on battlefield. I get your point, and it's truly admirable and a bit adorable, it also is likely more worth your money, although it doesn't improve your skills magically. That's mostly placebo
@@claimdud3104 companies mostly have to just focus on click latency shape and size that's all sensor performance doesn't matter Anymore cuz mouse are already good as for weight 60g is more than enough go lower most people will start over aiming
I bought an M3 and was impressed by how well it played for me in game, but my unit had side flex so bad that the plastic actually cracked under my thumb during normal gaming use.
I bought the AJ199 which I didn't know about before watching this review and like it a lot so far. Coming from a wired MZ1, loved the shape, but the cable broke on 2 copies pretty quickly. Also, I don't know if there are different variants of the AJ, because my copy has very acceptable feet, scratchy at start, but after a while they feel very similar to the MZ1 ones. Pretty decent build quality too. Only sub optimal thing are the clicks that are a little loose, not very satisfying, but I don't notice it in game, to be honest. For 50 bucks I'd say it's a great option
Zaopin Z1 Pro is expected to be 46G for 200mah and 51G for 500mah battery and even us European can get it for around 50 to 57 EUR ( depending on battery size ) from Mechkeys with prepaid VAT. Nordic MCU and supports 4K!
Zaopin Z1 pro has 0.5 ms with motion sync off. You can also get a 4k Hz dongle for it now which will improve motion, click latency even further. Despite the fact that I've used many top mice im actually using it as my main now cause of the new dongle. 4k Hz implementation feels very solid.
uhhhh upgraded Camera setup? :D Looks crisp. Does you have some weird feelings with the VGN Dragonfly in Csgo? because mine seems kinda weird sometimes. Tested the stability of the Connection and it jumps a lot between 500-1000Hz. Just waiting for my Zaopin Z1 pro preorder like 40-50Days ago and seems stuck at Production :/ btw. I did the Firmware update for the VGN Dragonfly
The Darmoshark M3 was too big for me but looking forward to trying its little brother out, the Varun. Currently using the VGN Dragonfly MOBA which seems good so far 🔥
I would like to add, i own zaopin z1 pro. As an orochi fan, that is my main for now. Got from mechkeys, and the mouse is very impresive for the price. It is ncie to see that we have so much possibility on the market, for that level of money.
@@lostboy2637 hollow, 200mha. 52grams. Even battery life on this low capacity is great. But I did want to take 500mha version, but it was not on stock.
I just picked up the mm712 sakura edition, I just love this shape and grip. Sensor position is perfect for me, feels so locked-in with aim. The clicks are excellent on my copy!
A quick side note for the MM712. I've been using it for some months now, and there is definitely still some wireless polling issues. If I strafe a corner and track it with my mouse as consistently as possible, you can see jittering from the mouse polls being a little off. It could also just be my copy. But other than that though, I agree with the weird design for the main clicks going over to the side. They are apparently fixing that with the MM712 Pro whenever that comes out (will have 4k polling as well. But I would care more about stability first). If you care even a little bit about really stable performance, I would stray away from going to budget wireless options. They just do not have the polling stability that the more premium mice/brands have. My personal opinion at least.
The thing about polling stability is that it will have to be quite a bit screwed up for it to have an effect to your in-game experience. The issue with your MM712 could be because of multiple reasons.
@@hausgaming Very true. I might do some testing today and see if I can recreate it again. I tried going to an older firmware (coolermaster software doesnt allow this) so I just reinstalled everything again. I haven't had the issue ever since I swapped mousepads, so maybe that has something to do with it. I'll come back to this and update if everything is fine
Cant confirm. Mouse works absolutely fine. The button/side Design isnt a Problem for me and hadnt been on the mm711 too. This depends on your gripstyle. The mm712 is unique in its shape and is a top recommendation
Okay but how expensive are normal gaming mouses? because if 43 dollars for a mouse is considered budget then I cant even imagine the price of a normal one
Bought Dragonfly F1 base model, and after 2 weeks i just upgraded to Pro Max. It really is a very good mouse for its price. Its also something between GPX and Viper Mini.
Do you find any difference between f1 and f1 pro max at 1khz polling rate?I am planning to buy the base version,do you think I should buy the normal version also I won't be buying the dongle since my budget is less
@hausgaming Late comment, but are you able to say which one has the lightest or most "easily pressed" main buttons and scroll wheel out of the M3, F1 Pro and Z1? I have an injury that makes it so I need mice that requires very little force/pressure. I had a much cheaper mouse before, HyperX Pulsefire Haste which had great main buttons for this (but had to return it several times for other issues).
80% mice from this video are wider at the front than in the middle. WHY? Why mice companies do this? I hate this shape feature, makes me struggle to aim and even isn't comfortable...
Ajazz recently released a new mouse called AJ139 Pro. According to reviews I’ve seen online, the build quality feels way more solid than the AJ199, and is very close to Lamzu & GPX. Would love to see a review 😁
@@nexii1479 its great. No creaking, still feels solid. Build quality is much better than the their AJ199 by a mile. Mouse is pretty balance. Battery life is great, only had to charge after 1-2 weeks of use. Overall, a pretty good mouse that has similar shape to viper v2 but with more palm support and flatter sides
Is it true you need 240hz + to sense 4k? I once heard you meed 144hz+ to sense 2k and also that you need 240hz+ , high sensitivity and a fairly good pc to sense 4k
i've been using m3 even i bought top 75 keyboard too. + i bought 2k receiver and it works like charm. keyboard is perfection. the only problem is the m3 product quality is weak. it has been 3 months and it got loose on the left click just before clicking. i can feel it while pressing little by little.
I'm glad I ordered some Xraypad jade skates with my AJ199, I didn't know the stock feet were that bad I can't wait to receive it cause I don't like the Aerox 3 I recently bought (too long for my liking as a fingertip user and sensor placed too far back) It would have been cool to weight the mice without their shells (when they have one)
Is there any reason to be hesitant to buying these because of having to install their Chinese software, in terms of worrying about spyware? Would hate to see my accounts get hacked a year down the line because of it.
Nice I might buy the Darmoshark 4K, not that I need a new mouse (X2 medium and EC2 are goated for me) but I still haven't tried 4Khz wireless and I like the white version with the blue scroll wheel.
I was waiting on a video like this. I just bought the Darmoshark M3 and I'm going to use the PCB to design my own mouse. I already did it for the VV2P but I want something with mechanical switches so I can put Huano Black Shell Pink Dots in
I'd love to see a video of a performance breakdown between the DAV3 8k and the Pulsefire haste 2 8k. Is Razer still the best in the game or can you get the same performance or better for cheaper?
I loved the mm712 and it was my to-be endgame but I had to cast it away because of eventual encoder failure / skipping. Happened on both copies I bought. Running the Cobra Pro now and couldn’t be happier with my fragging, hoping it fares better in longevity
The shape is the best i tried so far and i tried a lot. Atlantis mini with griptapes is nice too but mm712 is so comfy with the hump and half the price
@sxx01 yeah i got it for 30 on amazon a while back and i think the coating is a lot better than the lamzu. I really like the side buttons too with the sharper edge on them
Get these mice from MechKeys ( mechkeys.com ) & use code hausgaming to save money! MaxGaming is another great option especially for Europeans.
thx
currently rocking with VGN dragonfly Moba and it's amazing!
shape feels just right to me than any other mice👌
The Dragonfly Moba is so good.
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bruh sound like " Im gonna smash my monitor, I SWEARR" meme
That is literally who he is?
what is that meme
@@cooperharding5041ain’t no way
@@cooperharding5041nah
Yes. 4k test on the vgn dragonfly is something we need
The Darmoshark M3 is genuinely quite good for the price, I was pleasantly surprised. I have large hands so I wish the grip width was a little more, but it's impressing me so far! There are some complaints like coating is not as good as others, but for the money it's hard to beat. I'm glad your measurements show it's as technically impressive as it seems.
I got the N3 last month for USD$30 with discount here in SEA, I chose it over the M3 because of the shape and size and my copy doesn't have any side creaking. I could've gotten the M3s mini if it was released sooner but the N3 is a really good mouse for my hand.
@@lostboy2637 got mine for 40 with TTC golds and it’s excellent
@@lostboy2637 Planning to replace the battery and switches to Huano Blue Shell Pink Dots once my stock GM8.0 double clicks or doesn't work anymore.
@@joshuadelsaraza4782 where did u buy it? From which website
got mine from ali for USD18 and the N3 for $22 best deal i ever had!
I would love to see more of these budget round ups as you give us the actual numbers and evaluate the shape better than some of the other reviewers for grip type.
I enjoy my aj199. I didn't enjoy having to replace it twice just to get one without a defective scroll wheel however.
I recently got the Dragonfly F1 MOBA with the 4K, and I'm absolutely blown away by the quality and battery performance at 4K. Very recommended!
How long between recharging for each mode?
I would say for heavy use (6 hours a day in constant motion) every 3rd day something like that@@Noksivs
Hi, can you enable 4000 Hz polling rate if the mouse connected to PC via wire? Or this polling rate mode can work only with 4K dongle?
Yes yes we need u to compare the 4K tech on these budget wireless mice! Theres is even a mini darmoshark M3 (M3s Varun) which sports the 2K polling rate, which i think would interests much wider audience (since 4K needs a much higher spec on ur pc and atleast 240hz display)
The 4K performance would be very interesting, considering 4K is the new trend for pretty much every mouse manufacturer.
What is y'all's obsession with 4K lately...
@@VinnyUnion new tech, better and more future proof to buy darmoshark m3 4k than to buy a branded 1k mouse, I ordered it myself waiting to get it in 1-3 weeks
@@claimdud3104 gimmick. I have like a decade old mice and don't seem to have much of an issue on battlefield. I get your point, and it's truly admirable and a bit adorable, it also is likely more worth your money, although it doesn't improve your skills magically. That's mostly placebo
@@claimdud3104 companies mostly have to just focus on click latency shape and size that's all sensor performance doesn't matter Anymore cuz mouse are already good as for weight 60g is more than enough go lower most people will start over aiming
@@claimdud3104 its not more future proof, 1khz is gona be totally fine i 10 years too
I bought an M3 and was impressed by how well it played for me in game, but my unit had side flex so bad that the plastic actually cracked under my thumb during normal gaming use.
I bought the AJ199 which I didn't know about before watching this review and like it a lot so far. Coming from a wired MZ1, loved the shape, but the cable broke on 2 copies pretty quickly.
Also, I don't know if there are different variants of the AJ, because my copy has very acceptable feet, scratchy at start, but after a while they feel very similar to the MZ1 ones.
Pretty decent build quality too. Only sub optimal thing are the clicks that are a little loose, not very satisfying, but I don't notice it in game, to be honest.
For 50 bucks I'd say it's a great option
How much does it cost to ship an item from mechkeys to Canada?
It would be nice to see the new Zaopin Z1 Pro in this comparison!
Zaopin Z1 Pro is expected to be 46G for 200mah and 51G for 500mah battery and even us European can get it for around 50 to 57 EUR ( depending on battery size ) from Mechkeys with prepaid VAT. Nordic MCU and supports 4K!
I want to see the 4k stats for this mouse
check out Darmoshark M3S Mini, it has 2k hz polling rate with Telink
Currently using Dragonfly f1 Moba, great size and comfort for me. I even preferred it over Pulsar X2 AT for fps.
Is the software any good for it?
Hi, can you enable 4000 Hz polling rate if the mouse connected to PC via wire? Or this polling rate mode can work only with 4K dongle?
Zaopin Z1 pro has 0.5 ms with motion sync off. You can also get a 4k Hz dongle for it now which will improve motion, click latency even further. Despite the fact that I've used many top mice im actually using it as my main now cause of the new dongle. 4k Hz implementation feels very solid.
uhhhh upgraded Camera setup? :D Looks crisp. Does you have some weird feelings with the VGN Dragonfly in Csgo? because mine seems kinda weird sometimes. Tested the stability of the Connection and it jumps a lot between 500-1000Hz. Just waiting for my Zaopin Z1 pro preorder like 40-50Days ago and seems stuck at Production :/ btw. I did the Firmware update for the VGN Dragonfly
Same camera as always! Could be interference, polling stability is fine with the VGN & 1K dongle
Can you do review of their new Wireless with 4k/8k and Attack Shark x3 Pro 4/8k wireless? 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
The Darmoshark M3 was too big for me but looking forward to trying its little brother out, the Varun. Currently using the VGN Dragonfly MOBA which seems good so far 🔥
I would like to add, i own zaopin z1 pro. As an orochi fan, that is my main for now. Got from mechkeys, and the mouse is very impresive for the price. It is ncie to see that we have so much possibility on the market, for that level of money.
Which version do you own and how much does it weight? On the website they have hollow bottom or standard and 200mah or 500mah battery.
@@lostboy2637 hollow, 200mha. 52grams. Even battery life on this low capacity is great. But I did want to take 500mha version, but it was not on stock.
How do you know that the AJ199 has Motion Sync off? There is no toggle in the software. Is it disabled by default?
I just picked up the mm712 sakura edition, I just love this shape and grip. Sensor position is perfect for me, feels so locked-in with aim. The clicks are excellent on my copy!
A quick side note for the MM712. I've been using it for some months now, and there is definitely still some wireless polling issues. If I strafe a corner and track it with my mouse as consistently as possible, you can see jittering from the mouse polls being a little off. It could also just be my copy. But other than that though, I agree with the weird design for the main clicks going over to the side. They are apparently fixing that with the MM712 Pro whenever that comes out (will have 4k polling as well. But I would care more about stability first).
If you care even a little bit about really stable performance, I would stray away from going to budget wireless options. They just do not have the polling stability that the more premium mice/brands have. My personal opinion at least.
The thing about polling stability is that it will have to be quite a bit screwed up for it to have an effect to your in-game experience. The issue with your MM712 could be because of multiple reasons.
@@hausgaming Very true. I might do some testing today and see if I can recreate it again. I tried going to an older firmware (coolermaster software doesnt allow this) so I just reinstalled everything again. I haven't had the issue ever since I swapped mousepads, so maybe that has something to do with it. I'll come back to this and update if everything is fine
@@hausgaming Tried to link a picture of the mousetester graph, but it probably got flagged for spam
Cant confirm. Mouse works absolutely fine.
The button/side Design isnt a Problem for me and hadnt been on the mm711 too.
This depends on your gripstyle.
The mm712 is unique in its shape and is a top recommendation
Okay but how expensive are normal gaming mouses? because if 43 dollars for a mouse is considered budget then I cant even imagine the price of a normal one
Can’t wait to get the Zaopin Z1 pro! With lower weight and 4K my guess is it will be a banger if a mouse! Too sad mechkeys hasn’t shipped it yet…
Check out the updated zaopin z1 pro
Bought Dragonfly F1 base model, and after 2 weeks i just upgraded to Pro Max. It really is a very good mouse for its price. Its also something between GPX and Viper Mini.
Do you find any difference between f1 and f1 pro max at 1khz polling rate?I am planning to buy the base version,do you think I should buy the normal version also I won't be buying the dongle since my budget is less
When are you reviewing new Pulsar Xlite v3?
Yes, I would be interested in a Darmoshark M3 4k review from you. :)
The CM MM712 is on sale for £29.99 in the UK at the moment.
The Darmoshark M3 also has 20ms eager debounce, which will help prevent double clicking, while the rest are symmetrical defer debounce.
I’ve tried most of those and I loved the Ajazz the most the shape just fit and it was the cheapest one haha but still 3 months almost and no Z1 Pro :(
what about the attack shark x3? is it worth it or is the vgn dragonfly f1 pro better
@hausgaming Late comment, but are you able to say which one has the lightest or most "easily pressed" main buttons and scroll wheel out of the M3, F1 Pro and Z1? I have an injury that makes it so I need mice that requires very little force/pressure. I had a much cheaper mouse before, HyperX Pulsefire Haste which had great main buttons for this (but had to return it several times for other issues).
Thank you HausJesus for blessing us .. with another banger review
80% mice from this video are wider at the front than in the middle. WHY? Why mice companies do this? I hate this shape feature, makes me struggle to aim and even isn't comfortable...
bought the vgn because of you
How's the VGN so far?
Ajazz recently released a new mouse called AJ139 Pro. According to reviews I’ve seen online, the build quality feels way more solid than the AJ199, and is very close to Lamzu & GPX. Would love to see a review 😁
my current main, feels very good/quality. great shape, no complaints
@@justingatlin1 Oh nice. I recently ordered one, just waiting for it atm.
@@aphaehi, I'm planning on ordering one I was wondering what are your thoughts on this mouse after 2 months of use?
@@nexii1479 its great. No creaking, still feels solid. Build quality is much better than the their AJ199 by a mile. Mouse is pretty balance. Battery life is great, only had to charge after 1-2 weeks of use. Overall, a pretty good mouse that has similar shape to viper v2 but with more palm support and flatter sides
@@aphae wonderful, I've just ordered it from Amazon. Thanks for doing a mini review after 2 months of use
I am very interested in the z1 pro
AJ199 with bad feet? Mine is flawless so far... About 2 months of usage.
Is it true you need 240hz + to sense 4k? I once heard you meed 144hz+ to sense 2k and also that you need 240hz+ , high sensitivity and a fairly good pc to sense 4k
zaopin z1 pro can you review it? im trying to find a b100 or g305 shape but modern ...do you think zaopin z1 pro is too small compared?»
Please review the VGN Dragonfly Pro Max 4k compare with other 4k mice
CAN YOU REVIEW THE ATTACKSHARK X3?
i've been using m3 even i bought top 75 keyboard too. + i bought 2k receiver and it works like charm. keyboard is perfection. the only problem is the m3 product quality is weak. it has been 3 months and it got loose on the left click just before clicking. i can feel it while pressing little by little.
why are you talking in uppercase cursive
did you turn on high performance mode for vgn f1 in testing?
Of course!
Bought the ajazz AJ199 for 34 euro, but im thinking maybe i should of went with the Zaopin Z1
I'm glad I ordered some Xraypad jade skates with my AJ199, I didn't know the stock feet were that bad
I can't wait to receive it cause I don't like the Aerox 3 I recently bought (too long for my liking as a fingertip user and sensor placed too far back)
It would have been cool to weight the mice without their shells (when they have one)
Is there any reason to be hesitant to buying these because of having to install their Chinese software, in terms of worrying about spyware?
Would hate to see my accounts get hacked a year down the line because of it.
Just use a burner laptop or college or library computer (if they allow - some do - software installing) - set it up. Done.
Nice I might buy the Darmoshark 4K, not that I need a new mouse (X2 medium and EC2 are goated for me) but I still haven't tried 4Khz wireless and I like the white version with the blue scroll wheel.
The M3's performance is absurd for the money, the cheapest mouse that performs better is pretty much the viper ultimate on sale
mm712 costs 150usd in my country lol
What would be an alternative to the vgn dragon fly f1 pro for smaller hands?
can we have a comparison between Darmoshark m3 mini and LGG La-1 from eloshpes they look the same
I was waiting on a video like this. I just bought the Darmoshark M3 and I'm going to use the PCB to design my own mouse. I already did it for the VV2P but I want something with mechanical switches so I can put Huano Black Shell Pink Dots in
do you happen to know if the n3 shares the same tech specs? i bought one on prime day since it was $35
is 2ms latency on mm712 noticable compared to gpx?
how about the delux m800 pro 3395?
the MM712 is currently $40 new on Amazon!!!
I'd love to see a video of a performance breakdown between the DAV3 8k and the Pulsefire haste 2 8k. Is Razer still the best in the game or can you get the same performance or better for cheaper?
I do 3D animation so I have to press/hold the scrool wheel a lot. Which mouse has the best/strongest scrool wheel?
What mouse feet would you suggest to replace the stock AJ199 mouse teflon feet?
lamzu mini pro review plus with the 4k dongle!!
so? witch one was better than all?
Got mm712 anniversary edition and couldn't be happier
You gonna review the VGN Dragonfly F1 MOBA Version?
My current mouse (logitech g203, a great product for the price) is dying so I'll need to replace it soon. This is a very well made guide, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
i was surprised by how good these are, but i would never put down my vaxee. thanks hauski 😃
ya got the aj99 its amazing only thing the pre travel is pretty nuts.
P A L A M gripping 😂😂😂😂😂
As a small hand person I can't move from fantech aria
damn I hoped it would be the ajazz 139 pro not the 199.
the MM710 is literally just a last gen flagship
Wow you really show the good benchmarks that we gamers care for, amazing!
Can you try the DeLux M800 Pro Paw 3395?
What is better aj 199 or atack shark x3???
Can you test out the vgn dragonfly f1's click latency in 4k polling rate?
For sure!
im interested in the m3 is the software good?and is it in english?
Would like to see your review on the Razer Cobra Pro.
Bought an aj199 for 24 bucks, no qc issues. Best g305 alternative.
Insane find for 24 bucks!
your reviews are the best. i prefer them over other channels reviews
Is lamzu atlantis v2 stable at 1khz pooling
damn this mass review is really convenient
Which has the best side buttons plz reply
awesome
nice
Good review as usual. The M3 although I have large hands (21x11) I don't like it. The Ajaxx I also play really well with. Need to try the F1.
I loved the mm712 and it was my to-be endgame but I had to cast it away because of eventual encoder failure / skipping. Happened on both copies I bought. Running the Cobra Pro now and couldn’t be happier with my fragging, hoping it fares better in longevity
how long did the mouse last?
I hate how most companies are ignoring the scroll wheel, even my viper mini has scroll wheel issues
The m712 is seriously impressive
The shape is the best i tried so far and i tried a lot.
Atlantis mini with griptapes is nice too but mm712 is so comfy with the hump and half the price
@sxx01 yeah i got it for 30 on amazon a while back and i think the coating is a lot better than the lamzu. I really like the side buttons too with the sharper edge on them
You should check the Darmoshark M3s
the zaopin z1 pro fixed its shortness
The mm712 the shape is rrally nice
what does ms on mean
Darmoshark M3 the best!
i fing love you sir
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Finally lets go😊