Foreseeable Problems with PSA’s Future Release
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2024
- Palmetto State Armory, stated that they are going to soon release this German replica. It might have some problems that are quite foreseeable due to PSA‘s history. Other things that they have released have been subpar on their initial run. Would we expect problems perhaps? Would we expect certain things to not go the right way? should we expect them not even to release a full product? What about the historical significance of this and how people really wouldn’t want it if it’s way overpriced. We go over some scenarios in this video and I give you my thoughts. 
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I’d rather have a good look alike that’s shoots well and reliably. I don’t need Uber historical accuracy in that department.
Then why even make a historical reproduction?? The more accurate the better!
@@sandwichartist5053 go buy a real one then
@@missouripatriot6926 they’re in Syria and our tyrannical government won’t let them be imported!
@@sandwichartist5053 some are in gun broker probably
@@sandwichartist5053Cause the actual historical stuff is still out there in deactivated guns and FFL 3 holders.
Us normal/historically inclined folks will be more then happy with something 80% or 90% there that shoots and doesn't cost four houses with unobtainium ammo.
as for the PSA not coming out with a MP5 clone like they said they would l i think was because like a dozen other companies beat them to it so i dont think they saw the point with the market being saturated
True
I would rather see them make a French famas g2
A PSA Rep once said they couldn't hit a price point that they could be proud of so they scrapped it to focus their resources elseware.
I'd rather see them make Uzis
I don't understand why mp5s are so expensive
PSA reps have literally said there in pre production and are making sure it's reliable as can be before they start shipping it's coming out. It's also been going through development for years they bought the rights from hmg
Look up the STG 44 from hill and Mac gin works who said it was ready in 2015
@@karood-dog3584 Yes I know that's who.psa bought it from
My biggest worry is the price.
1500 is expensive but can be manageable
When you start getting above 2k and especially close or past 3k that is a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow. That is likely gonna be the determining factor of how well it sells
Gen 1 teething problems happen but those can be solved and they are required by law to have a warranty. So that isn’t a big worry.
It should be fairly close historically considering that they got this from hmg I believe and they had done a lot to make it fairly accurate. With that said it is hard to make a modern semi auto copy perfectly accurate to a select fire ww2 machine gun that was made during the downturn portion of Germany. It will likely be close enough that many people will like it because it is the only way to easily get one that is close to the original in operation and feel without the rarity and expense of a real one.
(Yes I know about the .22 ones however those just copy the look, operationally it is completely different and thus not really accurate)
Especially when PTR44s were $5k and a much better clone
I had the opportunity to buy an original. Couldn't do $30000. I did get to handle a real piece history though.
@@kenclark9075Sometimes just handling a historic gun is good enough, got a chance to hold an original DP28 but couldn't afford it either, still a great memory!
PSA has stated that the MP5 project is dead due to the cheap MP5 copies coming into the country now. Why does this topic keep coming up?
Bro. If I can get an stg 44. In 7.92 with a few modern parts that are easily accessible and easily maintained, I'm not gonna say shit if it's reliable. At 2 grand, that's 600 for rifle, 600 for profit and 800 for tooling and hand fitting (man hours) if it's reliable I'd pay 2k all day. I've got multiple PSA items and I enjoy them. Not the best in the world, but better than a stick
Don't forget that they have the 22lr stg already in the market for $400 that's an option for alot of people
definitely a low cost option! I will have to ask my reenactor friend if he has seen any of those during WW2 reenactments or what the German reenactors think about them
@@BattlefieldCuratorI had one and sold it. It’s not a bad gun, it’s actually nice and heavy and there’s zero recoil so it was fun and easy to shoot. I took some silver colored wax jewelry “antiquing” product and made it look battle worn without harming the finish and it looked very cool. But it’s just a 22lr so it was just a range toy. In the end a 22lr AR 15 worked better.
@@geonr6617Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!
I'll be honest I just want it to look accurate and be reliable.
I am extremely excited for this but I cant help but agree. I love PSA but their QC issues on Gen 1 anything is awful. If they release this through HRA I wouldnt be as worried about it. Still even with all the issues its better then spending 8k minimum on a PTR 44 you can even shoot
The HRA guns are made with Nodak Spud tooling, who have been making retro AR parts for a long time, that is why they are so good. HRA would have just as much of a clue how to make a STG-44 as PSA or HMG, which is probably not great.
If you or anyone else wants to own an AR 15 that shoots the 7.92x33 Kurz I do build them for sale with all the other models of AR 15 and AR 10 uppers I sell.
The cartridge cycles just fine through the AR 15 using 7.62x39 curved mags and the same bolt used for 450 Bushmaster, or 458 So-Com works for 7.92x33 Kurz.
The barrels I use are from Pac Nor using the SS super match barrels.
The 7.92x33 Kurz is right between the 300 BLK and a 7.62x39 in power.
I watched a recent interview with two product managers from PSA. I recall they claimed the delay was due a multi-month wait time to have a custom tool mashined which was required to manufacturer the gun, but that everything else was turn-key.
I think because they’ve invested time and money to get this far, it’s a sure thing. They’d definitely have to invest in the manufacturing tools to mass produce this thing at scale so that makes sense.
The stampings aren’t perfect and I do wish that HMG didn’t focus on adding modularity to it, but they bit off more than they can chew and can’t deny it was one hell of an undertaking. Palmetto bought them out and are using the hand they were dealt. PSA isn’t aiming to make 1:1 replicas for collectors. Their objective is to get as many guns into the hands of law abiding people. So a 2500 Palmetto STG, in 5.56 or 7.62, is likely to sell more than a PTR STG44 clone that is chambered in an obsolete, hard to find, caliber.
What I suspect is the Palmetto STG will come out. I respect that it was quite an endeavor, but what I hated about HMG was the lack of transparency.
Fr psa reps at this shot show have said they have the tooling and machines running they just want to iron out any kinks before releasing all these people going uh it's not 100 accurate or not coming out because PSA didn't make an mp5 when 4 other companies make mp5 s now and one just came out for under 1200 bucks
But then why make an STG at all at that point since they already make ARs and AKs to do that?
@@chewcacachewpipi8879 because the market for a 7.92x33 kurz, 1:1 scale, STG44 is a slimmer market.
An STG in more common calibers is going to have a much broader market, while still retaining some of the collector’s market. Those collectors might not like every “modern feature,” but will settle as it is the cheapest, and closest, thing to an STG44 on the market
@@chewcacachewpipi8879 People tend to take for granted the average fixed cost of these products. The reason why AR15s are so affordable now is because the tooling has paid off itself by now. Same for Soviet era AK tooling. When you require a 10 million dollar setup to crank out rifles, the average fixed cost, if you sell 10,000 will be 1000 per rifle. Sell 10,000,000 and that will become 1 per rifle. The more PSA can make and sell, the more affordable it becomes for the end user
If it is say $1000 to $1600 and reliable and durable, they might have something. If it is $2000+ and a unreliable firearm that has frequent parts breakage and quality control issues, then PSA can keep it.
Yea so that’s why I think a lot of folks are waiting for the Gen 1 reviews to see if it’s worth it or not
People really have no idea how R&D works
I worked for a plastic bottle plant and it takes YEARS just get a good bottle for your laundry detergent developed.
Much less a firearm
Reason number 2 (economy) is already here. I'm sure they know there's gobs of folks like me who'd LOVE to have that gun in their collection, and who make good money (if getting that amount 3 years ago) but simply have it as a wish list, and realistically, nothing more...
The impression I got from this STG 44 clone is that its more for casual ww2 fans who want the experience without dropping the $$ they would on a real STG 44.
You could say that, this rifle is the same rifle made by HMG which was designed to be a rifle thats as close as possible to the original stg44 but one that is a practical firearm to own for the average shooter with some modernization implemented such as a barrel nut for changing barrels for calibre conversion given 7.92x33kurz isnt exactly common anymore, charging handle/bolt catch, suppressor compatible, optics compatible, & uses an hk trigger pack due to original trigger internals basically being an overly complex jig saw puzzle. It's not 100% authentic but it's still heavily based off of the original stg44, still has the same action internally, & being customization friendly it is very ideal for shooters who like to mod their weapons as much as possible. I wouldn't really compare this to the gsg mp40 given it really doesnt use the same internal action/mechanisms all that much at all it's just a cheap mp40 look alike, this psa stg 44 should be a little more promising, though given they keep any of their promises, the hmg stg44 was promised 7 years ago, its long overdue for it to get released & i have much more confident in psa to do it than hmg. For those that want an authentic stg44, DKProductions is the way to go, but theirs will cost quite a bit more & will be a while before their rifles truly hit market, as of end of last year their priority was building all their mp40s they want to sell which are also authentic replicas as well.
@@alexsurber3424 Idk, I think if someone wants a "practical firearm", using a design from 1940 ain't it. I get that somefirearms like the 1911 or the 50 cal machinegun are still in use, but that's mainly because their category of firearms haven't evolved at the same rate as assault rifles have, which have changed a lot over the last few decades to easilu accomodate optics, have more compact magaizines, be lighter weight, quicker to reload, and be chambered in calibers that are commonly used. The STG 44 fails or at the very least is subpar in all those categories compared to say a nice ar15, FN scar, modernized AK etc.
@@hk4lyfe59 There is merit to what you're saying, but like the ar-15 & ak, it too the stg-44 can receive all the R&D poured into those rifles but all at once in this case as opposed to over the time frame of 50 years, the stg is an older design but its not drastically different to its assault rifle descendents that came out just a little over a decade later, like certain modern rifles it is capable of being more while still retaining key characteristics. An example of this idea but in terms of motorcycles a good example would be BMWs modern cafe bikes which are extremely similar to their classics from back in the day but modernized enough for todays standards while still being very retro, a brand new motorcycle that comes in the image of the old. The stg-44 is a candidate imo for such modernization but still being close enough to the classic stg-44, for me personally im more interested in the platform, not an exact carbon copy of a WWII rifle, but maybe that's just me, i would dream of owning a GT40 kit car for instance that is basically the original rolling chasis & features identical bodywork of the original, but one customized to my liking.
I would like to see kits possibly to reverse the mag release button to the correct location. But then again there's something inside that would prevent that but its a idea for further down the road when its released and been on the market for a bit.
I will pay up to 2.5k but after that it might not be worth it for gen 1 build.
I don't get people complaining about it not being 100% accurate. Real STG44s are extremely difficult to get, parts especially. Why would you prefer compatibility with 80 year old parts to brand new ones? The way PSA/HMG are doing it is the right way, if it's going to be a reliable gun.
I have the 22lr version and it looks legit like the real one. If you're going to make a "reproduction" of a classic gun like the STG 44 and charge well over 2000 maybe even close to 3000 dollars for it.. it better be as close to the original as possible or it's basically another AR in the shape of an STG 44.
You don’t get why people who like classic guns because of their history want it to be as close to historically accurate as possible?
I know I’m no expert but I really don’t understand some of the design choices they made with this, and I’d bet some of these choices are why these things are so delayed.
May be similar problem to the FG-42's manufactured a decade or so ago by SMG. Beautifully done semi-auto replicas, excellent reviews.... but more than $3k. I think they stopped manufacturing after a year, maybe even less, due to low demand at that price. They put a huge amount of R&D into them, couldn't really recover that cost.
Smg is still producing fg’s, but the PSA stg isn’t even remotely in the same class. The smg fgs are insanely accurate replicas, but they’re also $7500 I think. The PSA is very clearly a fairly accurate copy, but couldn’t replace one in a museum display and fool anyone. The smg FG could, and by all accounts they run beautifully and are exquisite in terms of quality as well.
@@HE-162 Thank you for the additional explanation! All good info and context.
If its around the 1500-1600 dollar range then I will likely be picking up a 7.62 variation, anywhere higher is approaching DSA 16' FAL territory I believe from what we've seen in the past on their warranty and corrections on design of their AKs that they will come through strong.
This video is hilarious. Are you just making this up as you go? "It uhhhh, maybe won't come out because of uhhhh, the world......uh, politics.....er um,,, the economy.....or like uhhhhhh maybe they won't finish it or they're..... uh......lying maybe." Great click bait, you got me.
Haha this video was addressing the comments section of the other STG44 video I made
The AK is a simple rifle that proved very difficult to reverse engineer in both Yugoslavia & the US.
The Stg is not a simple rifle. Who knows what challenges are ahead? 🤠
lol good point!
Great video - im still holding hope PSA will do a decent job on this one
As a collector that always strives to find original condition rifles when it comes to milsurp stuff, I don’t mind that this is pretty different than an original. The fact that it is new means it could never be an original no matter what. Even if it was exact, it will always be a re-pop. That being said, I think it’s awesome and I’d love to have one just for the fun of shooting it. And even though gen.1 guns almost always have problems, I wouldn’t mind having one of the first off the line just for the low serial number. I wouldn’t be surprised if 10 years from now these aren’t even still in production. Once production stops, everyone will finally want one, lol. 30 years from now folks will be saying,”why didn’t I get one of those when they were ‘cheap’ and available?”. Haha, heck I dunno. Just a thought. Like I said, I’d like to own one regardless. Cheers! 🍻
I have a picture of a genuine Nazi STG 44 that was taken at the museum at West Point Military Academy, NY. Picture was taken summer 1980 or 1981. Taken by my Grandfather...who was a retired Army Officer. I was with him when he took the picture and the STG 44 is in a section of West Point's museum labled assault rifles (intermediate rifle cartridge is what assault rifle means to me). The Sturmgeyer rifle was made to be shot either semi auto or fully automatic. I think the idea PSA has is great, however the logistics of it is hard. Mainly its about ammo. Who manufactures ammo in that vintage intermediate caliber? Imagine how expensive the ammo would be...even for someone with lots of money. And spare parts...who manufactures reliable spare parts for the STG 44? That being said, I hope PSA is successful in bringing the STG 44 to the American market. The cartridge is a necked down Mauser bullet... powerful.
I've been waiting all this years since hmg had it in 2016 at shot show i have a gsg stg44 and shoot an original one the only things that im wondering is how is the safety going to feel and the mag release is on the wrong side i like how the controls are original and the gsg probably would still but it since ive been keeping an eye out for it for all these years
Yes, my analogy is about cars, not guns but marketing and sales are the same. Whether a real high priced car or gun and only build 200-500 items a year or take lower profit and sell more of them.
Mac Steil had a good idea with the design, but he couldn't produce them and then the PR effort went off the rails. I had placed a a pre order for one back in November 2015 just to enjoy the journey of developing a new firearm. The journey became a nightmare with lots of misinformation before they went dark with all comms. I got a refund eventually and I wish PSA luck in getting this into production.
They put the selector switch instructions in English. Not a fan of that. Really, how hard is it to learn what is what?
Probably a liability issue
They have come this close, they will finish the project.
I believe so too
Might might might might......
I could see them potentially not releasing the 8mm version, since ammo for that just keeps gettiny more and more rare, but I feel like the 5.56 and the 7.62 varients will be a hit.
PSA might actually make their own 8mm ammo. They do have an ammo company after all.
DK Production Group who are at this moment making faithful MP-38 reproductions are the only company I know that will make a more historically authentic STG-44. Just let them know there's demand.
I'm fine with a trigger pack and polymer furniture where it makes sense, as long as it looks pretty close and runs well is all I care about.
Its the same idea as selling a shelby kit car. Fraction of the price but the looks and function are the same. I'll just be glad that stg44 rifles will hopefully be available to the masses in 2024.
Hill and Mac screwed a lot of people.
So what its not perfect, if they make it work then it will be worth it for reenactors and enthusiasts. I built a DP28 and it worked fine but I wanted it for a Russian armored car (BA64) so I did some mods and made it look like a DT and worked with the tall drum. It has problems but it was worth it and was more accurate than having an infantry gun in the place for an tank gun.
That’s actually pretty cool. Those DP28s are awesome, thought about building one myself when they were available.
The trigger kinda annoys me, even if I understand why they chose the one they did. Then if the whole thing is black thatll be a major turn off
If the only option they release is black, I’m sure they’ll get an ear full from the community
The GSG .22 lr,rifle from a decade ago looks almost identical and shoots reliably. But the PSA , STG-44 just doesnt look right.
Personally I agree wholeheartedly on the accuracy issue, I would never purchase a reproduction STG-44, unless it was accurate to the original 90%+. Even then, I wouldn't purchase it if it costs more than $2K.
There is just so many better options for PSA to make and produce, that would be more popular.
List of Examples:
* M14/M1A or an M1 Grand (I would buy)
* FAL variants
* G3/CETME
* MP5 (Doubt at this point)
* AR-180
* AK-107/ Counterbalanced AK
* Draco Krink (Might come out in 2024)
* Type 56 Chinese AK (They kinda {Soviet Arms} produce these)
* SVD Clone
* PSL Clone
* G43 Reproduction
* SVT40 Reproduction
* SKS line (AK mag SKS?) {Good for Canadians}
* Cheap semi auto shotgun line (They could make a reliable Benelli Clone, or make their own designs)
* Auto 5 clone
* Model 12 Clone
* S&W M29 revolver Copy
* 2011/1911 type pistol (They could probably purchase RIA, tbh)
it would be far easier for them to produce those and get popularity and accuracy with these designs that already have a market and can be produced cheaper than the STG in most cases.
Those first 5. 💪🔥👍 Especially the AR 180. 🗽🦅🇺🇸
M1 carbine repro
@@hcctendeep7047 auto ordnance and inland manufacturing make those in current years brother man. Auto Ordnance is the better of the two. Although they will run you around 1500 and up
What are you smoking lmfao the only ones of those that might be able to be made for under 2,000 is the 2011 and revolver modern m14s are almost 2,000 Grand as it is and id rather have an stg44 I can use for more then a range toy that isn't a 22 like it's either no stg44 or one with a few changes what's the big deal
We don't . Need a PS5 there are like 5 companies that make mp5 s and tisas is making one for 1000$ now
So they want to make a reproduction of a historical firearm that's not really a reproduction using short cuts and modern plastics, of an original gun that is now long obsolete being twelve pounds and firing a cartridge equal to a .30 carbine fired from a five pound gun , a cartridge that almost no one makes today, with no option for full auto fire , which was the reason the original gun made sense in the first place. Makes about as much sense as paying $40,000 for a beat up rusty original STG 44 or a MP 43.
The first two minutes sounded just like "Foreseeable problems with Vltor's Bren Ten"; it's a priority, until it's not.
So it's like getting a HK 416 in .22LR and pretending it's a real 416.
I feel like they totally messed up on this project from day one they were trying to use a tilting bolt when they should’ve went with a different operating system you can make it look like a MP44 with a different operating system that is widely available and more reliable
I feel bad for everyone that wants one. They are a cool looking rifle at least the original ones are.
Interested if it isn't crazy high
If PSA made it, I wouldn’t pay over 1500 for anything they produce. That’s usually how they roll. I’ve never actually seen PSA guns in stock where I live, and when I ask gun stores to order them, they say they’re usually out of stock when this releases, I doubt I ever get to order one like other PSA guns.
Have you tried to order right from their website and have it shipped to your FFL?
I have my doubts this will ever make it to market
Totally agree..get the stg44 ribs right.. another is that 9mm fg42 looking rifle on gunbroker..what's the point? Can't even get a fg42 airsoft or prop gun" denix"of a holy grail rifle that doesn't look that complicated to reproduce compared to others I've seen being made. Collectors want a clone
This reminds me of the reboot of the Bren Ten by Vltor....😢
$2,000 is too much.
Ive beeb foloowing thsi project even when itwas with Hill & Mac. I want one, but ya, if im paying $2k+ knowing its gonna sit on the safe. Why bother. Been considering the .22LR clone instead as it more accurate looking.
Yea, I guess if you want something that’s more original looking, you can get the 22LR version. Maybe even take to get a period correct cerekote job
The chances of wide production of the STG-44 died in May of 1945. When the allies seized all the tooling and did not immediately begin mass production the rifle was dead. Everything now is that has been planned to bring these rifles back is just cheap halfway copies. Let the rifle rest in peace....
Id buy it regardless
I think it's cool but not $2000 cool
Why don't you wait until you can actually review one before slamming PSA?
I’m simply bringing up scenarios that are on people’s minds.
Why cant PSA wait until a product is actually ready before they announce it?
1. It’s PSA
PULVERIZED!!!
Cheers 🍻 😁
@@BattlefieldCurator
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It's a dog and pony show. This product is nothing more than a tool used I advertising.
I'll stick to my M1, SKS, and M1A1.
Which M1? There’s an M1 Rifle, M1 Carbine, M1 Submachine gun, M1 Flamethrower, M1 Tank, M1 helmet, M1 bayonet and M1 mortar.
Make 10 Chevys to every Cadillac and sell the Chevys and make $200 per car. Sell a Cadillac and make $700 profit. $2000 profit better than a $700 profit and more people have their products to show off at the range or gun stores. PSA better figure it out.
Psa haters always look like 🤡 bunch
I thought this was the video I could watch to the end but nope
Basically years of HMG research and PSA and no one can make an STG 44.
Dietrich out of Germany about 10 years ago was able to make a high quality semi-auto reproduction of the STG-44 in 7.92x33. It was very expensive like 5k and very few of them was imported into the country but it looks exactly like the real thing unlike the PSA and they are very reliable according to the few people who own them. Dietrich is setting up shop in Kentucky but their reproductions are still very expensive. Just because HMG and PSA have yet to make one doesn't mean someone else hasn't.
@@dancortes3062SSD is the only hope because apparently they are the only ones who can do it right
Dietrich is a stickler about historical accuracy. Many an importer has found him impossible to deal with as he won't compromise on historical accuracy or quality. Prices will likely be astronomical. 🤠
@@donwyoming1936 historical accuracy and quality should be non negotiable. What kind of bird brained importer would ask him to compromise on that?
Remembering this is the cursed project from hill and Mac gunworks “ ready to ship in 2015 “ 🤣🤣 I’d be very surprised if it ever ships to customers. Almost a decade of fat men telling lies to customers surround this rifle .
Mp7 u mean
Public: WE WANT THE STG 44!!!!!!
PSA: hey, check out our dx 57 model. And our other projects as well
Myself: 🙄🙄🤔
Public is showing more interest in the other stuff then the STG so...
Besides, their MP7 clone looks awesome.
I want the StG, if it works.
I do not want a downsy Mp7, the bullpup lower for the Jackyl looks cool though.
@@georgewhitworth9742 meh. I would rather see their announcement from last year come to fruition. Rather than be involved in so many projects they spread themselves too thin
So there are no issues with the Stg 44. Or at least be honest if they have it on the back burner. Now the Krink, 👍💪
They need to scrap the whole STG 44 program.
The Gun community is prepping.
We're not thinking about this. STG.
It's every other concept gun in their collection that we are digging. 😂
Nobody asked for the STG.
It's everything else that they offer. 😂😂😂 PSA So so good us.
They give us everything we want. Even stuff that we don't.
PSA got my vote & my money 💰 💯
i asked for the STG
@pinochetscommiecopter9984 🤣 You asked for every single gun so you don't count.🤣🤣🤣
@@leofightsback6514 i only asked for the STG 44 and the FG42
Nobody asked for any of those bizarre concept guns. The only things people asked for were the STG44, MP7, and AKS74u
I want the stg44 and jackal 308 the 5.7 sucks I don't know why it has so many fanboys it's weaker then 9mm cost more and can't go through armor shut up on useless range guns a new tact 45 or 22 dagger would be cool or and more use it the stg
They should just make it in 9mm. A simple blowback 9mm STG 44 would be easy to produce, fun and affordable to shoot. I know the STG 44 was never in 9mm but it was never in 7.62x39 or 5.56 either. I think what HMG & now PSA are discovering is that the STG44 is a much more complicated weapon to produce than what they thought it would be. Remember the semiauto PTR-44 that came out of Germany in the early 2000's was $4500.
What's more, it looks like a toy
Less that two minutes in and ya lost me. Don't start with lame reasons next time, cya.
Those were what people were saying in the comments on the previous video, so I addressed them
No offense but those who specifically hope and wait for the release of a clone or an obsolete and not great weapon, will get the hell they pay for
Am I wrong? This dude sounds like my mom or sister complaining. Dude must be raised by a single mother. Pretty common these days. Wonder how it ends with no fathers raising children? I have an idea, doesn't end well. Lol!
lol great comment. But all of the complaints were comments by other people on another video I made. So these complaints are not mine, they are from this video ruclips.net/video/Rz8vHzdlKvE/видео.htmlsi=sIzSQAppS6nm-bFT
@Seancarter2301 yet here you are complaining about someone raising legitimate concerns over a first-generation production gun. I hate people like you who love to complain about others "complaining" while complaining yourself. Don't like the video buttercup, close it out. Your dad must have skipped out on you or something since you can't handle someone else's opinions or he just did a poor job of raising a man.
Like my mother would say,"It just doesn't look right."
I build and sell AR 15 & AR 10 uppers in odd chamberings and standard chamberings.
I build and sell AR 15 uppers in the Nazi 7.92x33 Kurz so if anyone wants the AR 15 that shoots this cartridge you can get in contact with me for details.
If you are looking for cheap, I don't do cheap and none of my ARs use foreign parts such does Palmetto state armory - Bear creek - PSA - Delton and a batch of other garbage ARs on the market.
I use barrels from Pac Nor - parts from KAK Industries.
It’s really cool and I’m happy to see people are interested in reproduction guns, but I can’t justify that kind of price for a hardly even a clone.
Yea… it’s price is a big downfall