If you think Undead or Alive is just a spin-off and don't deserve your attention, you are clearly missing something you may like, as you liked Invader. UoA introduces Classes for survivors (Invaders had 2 "Classes", UoA has 5), it's set in a Western era, but the expansion is a Steampunk setting! It's been the more difficult Zombicide, until Army of the Dead. The campaign mode works the same as in 2nd Ed. I really reccomend it. Take an eye on It!
@@TabletopDungeon UoA is honestly my favorite of the Zcide games. It's tough, it's fun, and it's got a real movement to it. Also love the class system. But I do agree theme for Zcide is huge. So if it doesn't do anything for you, that's totally understandable.
Thank you for your review. Zombicide is very interesting and yes, we can adapt some ideas from one version to another, like using Shield soldiers in 2nd edition as enemies (you know how military reacts sometimes, like in The Last Of Us) or as supporting/rescuing NPC allies). Thanks, again. I'm following you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Sorry to hear that Michael! It's quite an outlier in the Zombicide system and is unlikely to receive any further development, so I didn't want to push people toward it.
White Death will have a campaign, thats one of the main reasons I picked it up. its a monk type setting with chi skill cards and statues. if its as good as 2.0 i think we will be in for a treat
Just to note for anyone scanning the comments, that's a part of the Eternal Empire expansion, not the base game. But yeh, really excited for white death!
What are all the expansions for the 2nd edition core game? I’m trying to build a huge map to play on using all the base set and expansion sets. Is that possible to do? or would some of the cards in the expansion sets mess up the overall gameplay?
In terms of new tiles, all of the campaign expansions I outline here - ruclips.net/video/IGpC_2UMT4g/видео.html , plus the 2nd Comic Book pack (if you can find it). There's also a separate "tiles pack" which is just a duplicate of all the base game tiles specifically so you can use both sides to build a huge map. In terms of card decks: - anything with additional zombie types can be added right in; soldiers from Washington ZC, extra abominations, etc. Not a problem there. You might also consider the "Complete 2nd Edition Upgrade Kit", which has a bunch of zombie spawn cards for zombie types from the first edition (but you don't have to own the first edition of course, if you have another set of zombie minis somewhere you could use those instead, as long as they're different colors). - Item decks in the campaigns replace the original item deck because they have the "all out" mechanic; a supercharged attack with the possibility the weapon wil break. You could combine multiple campaign decks without issue though, or customize it. Same goes for the super weapons, they replace the original deck. On a large map, you'd need to use multiple sets from campaing expansions to accomodate all crates. Basically, keep the oiginal item decks in the box, only use those fom expansions. - Camapign expansions would also add day/night cycle, wound deck, and special item decks (secret service, amy stuff) Hope that helps!
Pirate Zombies might be a bit weird. You could just shove them off the boat, surely? And respawns wouldn't make much sense unless they were fish zombies ;) 30s era sounds doable - mafia zombies type of thing, tommy guns? Yeaaaah.
@@TabletopDungeon Oh i was thinking more on land scenarios like the rest of the series. Treasure caves,abandoned forts/hide outs,towns,native villages,boat scenario does sound interesting though. As for the mafia one it definitely could work,who wouldn’t like mowing down zombies with a tommy gun in a pinstripe suit?
I have near all of the explanations of the first edition, true morgue, prison, characters, dog companions, dog zombies... I'm trying to adapt the rules to the second edition but I'm not sure if it's best to let the old rules out try to adapt something or try to adapt what i can. What did you think it's the best change for the first to the second?
I just played for the first time today. It was the DC version and I wanted to buy the Marvel. Am I able to buy one of the cheaper expansions first and still play? Or do I need the more expensive core box to even start? Thank you for the video
Unfortunately no, all the expansions need the base game to play. The missions add some custom tiles but also use base tiles. The living heroes are essential the same, but you get equipment cards in DCeased as opposed to bystander cards in Marvel.
Hi! I'm new to the Zombicide universe and I'm thinking on buying Army of the Dead but... I feel it needs more type of zombies. Would you happen to know if an expansion like Fort Hendrix would be playable? Because I know that's for the 2nd edition. But... I'm just wondering: Would it be possible or nah?
No, because those expansions need the game tiles in the original 2nd edition. The card backs are all different too, so you'd be messing around with sleeving them to make it the same... . Army of the Dead is a complete, standalone game. Any reason not to just get 2nd + expansions, are you dead set of Army of the Dead theme?
@TabletopDungeon It just looks a bit more simple and an all-in-one package. Plus I don't have that much space to have too many expansions anyway. I thought Army would be a good introducty; looks good but I just see the downside of zombie variety. I might just buy some zombie packs and create a house rule to introduce them or something.
No, sorry, I probably should have been clearer - I think everything afetr first edition was based around teh same ruleset, with minor tweaks each time.
What about Zombicide Cthulhu edition?? Fighting hordes of undead cultists with "Old ones" abominations. Loads of mission possibilities. Could be cinematic fun. 🤞🤞🤞
I think the only problem with that is that Cmon already has a Cthulu Death May Die game - I'd expect a crossover pack letting you use those in Zombicide rather than a full game edition.
i'm a bit of an old head in the Zombicide community. i prefer the G1 version. does anyone know of any support or suggestions for building off the classic style?
I've been saving up Amazon affiliate vouchers for this one, but I'm not entirely sure I can justify yet more zombicide :( Lol, who am I kidding, of course I can!
Haha yes of course you can, apparently from what ive seen on the reviews of army of the dead and watching some playthroughs, its the most difficult zombicide, even tougher than undead or alive, and some really cool changes. Its a must buy🤣😎
I have the first edition too but with 3 lives instead of 2, but if someone dies, it spawns as an abomination with free movement rules and the heavily to control the movement of the zombies in his own tile.
Why is Undead or Alive not a core game? I don't get it. Though it was a Zombicide game with the usual differences from any other Zombicide. (I don't have, so I don't know. I'm trying to figure it all out.)
That's a fair question, and it's possible I've been too dismissive of it as it's not a theme that appealed. But I would say that it's not a core game for a few reasons: it's unlikely to get a second season, and I don't know of any crossover content. The modern, fantasy, and invader games all have a load of crossover monsters and cards with other games, like Massive Darkness 2, Project Elite, and more. That's not to say it isn't a good game, though, and there are a few expansions for it, so you'll never be wanting for more. Like I say, the theme is most important - if it appeals, go for it.
That's a tricky question, both are similar yet completely different! I have Massive Darkness 2, but didn't really enjoy it. It felt like Massive Darkness 2 leans more into RPG mechanics, but only very superficially. Zombicide base game is unashamedly just mowing down zombies - a beer and pretzels game. The campaigns give you more RPG-lite elements, but still very basic. Massive Darkness 2 felt like constantly chasing Diablo-style loot drops. There's loot in Zombicide, but once you got a good weapon you're more interesting in strategising the mission goals. Zombicide is more accessible, with the same rules for everyone. Massive Darkness was a nightmare for me having to explain the unique character rules to each player.
Ahhh, I think I remember an email about that. Yeh, looks very similar to MD2, which I'm not a huge fan of to be honest. It all felt a bit random. Think I'll give that one a pass ;)
If you think Undead or Alive is just a spin-off and don't deserve your attention, you are clearly missing something you may like, as you liked Invader. UoA introduces Classes for survivors (Invaders had 2 "Classes", UoA has 5), it's set in a Western era, but the expansion is a Steampunk setting! It's been the more difficult Zombicide, until Army of the Dead. The campaign mode works the same as in 2nd Ed. I really reccomend it. Take an eye on It!
Totally fair about the mechanics - I'd probably enjoy those. It's just the theme I really dislike! If i see a bargain I'll pick it up though :)
@@TabletopDungeon UoA is honestly my favorite of the Zcide games. It's tough, it's fun, and it's got a real movement to it. Also love the class system. But I do agree theme for Zcide is huge. So if it doesn't do anything for you, that's totally understandable.
Army of the Dead is happening and it seems pretty fun actually!
It does look rather good, but omg do I need more zombicide? Yes, probably. ;)
Thank you for your review. Zombicide is very interesting and yes, we can adapt some ideas from one version to another, like using Shield soldiers in 2nd edition as enemies (you know how military reacts sometimes, like in The Last Of Us) or as supporting/rescuing NPC allies).
Thanks, again. I'm following you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I remember watching your review of Zombicide Invaders. It was the one review that really helped me to take my decision.
Thanks for that!
You did a good job! congratulations from São Paulo, Brazil.
I have the first edition with the upgrade kits and undead or alive. It was wierd not hearing any praise for undead or alives difficulty and gameplay.
Sorry to hear that Michael! It's quite an outlier in the Zombicide system and is unlikely to receive any further development, so I didn't want to push people toward it.
White Death will have a campaign, thats one of the main reasons I picked it up. its a monk type setting with chi skill cards and statues. if its as good as 2.0 i think we will be in for a treat
Just to note for anyone scanning the comments, that's a part of the Eternal Empire expansion, not the base game. But yeh, really excited for white death!
Yeah the base game won’t have a campaign, but the expansions in the all-in pledge will have campaigns
What are all the expansions for the 2nd edition core game? I’m trying to build a huge map to play on using all the base set and expansion sets. Is that possible to do? or would some of the cards in the expansion sets mess up the overall gameplay?
In terms of new tiles, all of the campaign expansions I outline here - ruclips.net/video/IGpC_2UMT4g/видео.html , plus the 2nd Comic Book pack (if you can find it). There's also a separate "tiles pack" which is just a duplicate of all the base game tiles specifically so you can use both sides to build a huge map.
In terms of card decks:
- anything with additional zombie types can be added right in; soldiers from Washington ZC, extra abominations, etc. Not a problem there. You might also consider the "Complete 2nd Edition Upgrade Kit", which has a bunch of zombie spawn cards for zombie types from the first edition (but you don't have to own the first edition of course, if you have another set of zombie minis somewhere you could use those instead, as long as they're different colors).
- Item decks in the campaigns replace the original item deck because they have the "all out" mechanic; a supercharged attack with the possibility the weapon wil break. You could combine multiple campaign decks without issue though, or customize it. Same goes for the super weapons, they replace the original deck. On a large map, you'd need to use multiple sets from campaing expansions to accomodate all crates. Basically, keep the oiginal item decks in the box, only use those fom expansions.
- Camapign expansions would also add day/night cycle, wound deck, and special item decks (secret service, amy stuff)
Hope that helps!
Great video. Very well explained
Thank you! Great video 👍
currently have undead or alive and 2nd edition. hopefully in the future they make one set during the 1930s era or pirate era
Pirate Zombies might be a bit weird. You could just shove them off the boat, surely? And respawns wouldn't make much sense unless they were fish zombies ;)
30s era sounds doable - mafia zombies type of thing, tommy guns? Yeaaaah.
@@TabletopDungeon Oh i was thinking more on land scenarios like the rest of the series. Treasure caves,abandoned forts/hide outs,towns,native villages,boat scenario does sound interesting though.
As for the mafia one it definitely could work,who wouldn’t like mowing down zombies with a tommy gun in a pinstripe suit?
Would love to see a Pack #4 with Monkian and Vultureman. Maybe Lynx-O and Pumyra round out the pack.
great video ! thank you for it, I'm eager to buy a new zombicide and it helped me a lot.
I have near all of the explanations of the first edition, true morgue, prison, characters, dog companions, dog zombies...
I'm trying to adapt the rules to the second edition but I'm not sure if it's best to let the old rules out try to adapt something or try to adapt what i can.
What did you think it's the best change for the first to the second?
I just played for the first time today. It was the DC version and I wanted to buy the Marvel. Am I able to buy one of the cheaper expansions first and still play? Or do I need the more expensive core box to even start?
Thank you for the video
Unfortunately no, all the expansions need the base game to play. The missions add some custom tiles but also use base tiles. The living heroes are essential the same, but you get equipment cards in DCeased as opposed to bystander cards in Marvel.
Great review thankyou
Hi! I'm new to the Zombicide universe and I'm thinking on buying Army of the Dead but... I feel it needs more type of zombies. Would you happen to know if an expansion like Fort Hendrix would be playable? Because I know that's for the 2nd edition. But... I'm just wondering: Would it be possible or nah?
No, because those expansions need the game tiles in the original 2nd edition. The card backs are all different too, so you'd be messing around with sleeving them to make it the same... . Army of the Dead is a complete, standalone game. Any reason not to just get 2nd + expansions, are you dead set of Army of the Dead theme?
@TabletopDungeon It just looks a bit more simple and an all-in-one package. Plus I don't have that much space to have too many expansions anyway. I thought Army would be a good introducty; looks good but I just see the downside of zombie variety. I might just buy some zombie packs and create a house rule to introduce them or something.
Great vid! Do I get you right, that Black Plague is based on the first edition rules?
No, sorry, I probably should have been clearer - I think everything afetr first edition was based around teh same ruleset, with minor tweaks each time.
Side note, this is the only time we can create a crossover between DC vs Matvel in the form of zombies haha
What about Zombicide Cthulhu edition??
Fighting hordes of undead cultists with "Old ones" abominations.
Loads of mission possibilities.
Could be cinematic fun. 🤞🤞🤞
I think the only problem with that is that Cmon already has a Cthulu Death May Die game - I'd expect a crossover pack letting you use those in Zombicide rather than a full game edition.
@TabletopDungeon true that. I know it is highly highly unlikely........
Just thought it would be really cool.
Thanks for replying. Appreciate it 🙏
i'm a bit of an old head in the Zombicide community. i prefer the G1 version.
does anyone know of any support or suggestions for building off the classic style?
Here you go, best resource on t'interwebs: zombicidefans.com/?games-settings=classic-zombicide
"You must remember this, a miss is just a miss." 🤣
Best versions are Undead or Alive and Army of the Dead
That's definitely... an opinion! :)
Army of the dead for me, loved the movie and i have to get the board game. It looks really good from what ive seen aswel👍😎
I've been saving up Amazon affiliate vouchers for this one, but I'm not entirely sure I can justify yet more zombicide :(
Lol, who am I kidding, of course I can!
Haha yes of course you can, apparently from what ive seen on the reviews of army of the dead and watching some playthroughs, its the most difficult zombicide, even tougher than undead or alive, and some really cool changes. Its a must buy🤣😎
We only love the first edition because a survivor has only 2 lives and CAN BE KILLED! We looove that! Plus the 2d edition is wayyy too easy!
You can make it much harder with some house rules
I have the first edition too but with 3 lives instead of 2, but if someone dies, it spawns as an abomination with free movement rules and the heavily to control the movement of the zombies in his own tile.
Why is Undead or Alive not a core game? I don't get it. Though it was a Zombicide game with the usual differences from any other Zombicide.
(I don't have, so I don't know. I'm trying to figure it all out.)
That's a fair question, and it's possible I've been too dismissive of it as it's not a theme that appealed. But I would say that it's not a core game for a few reasons: it's unlikely to get a second season, and I don't know of any crossover content.
The modern, fantasy, and invader games all have a load of crossover monsters and cards with other games, like Massive Darkness 2, Project Elite, and more.
That's not to say it isn't a good game, though, and there are a few expansions for it, so you'll never be wanting for more. Like I say, the theme is most important - if it appeals, go for it.
So, which of the 2nd edition expansions have campaigns?
I have just the video for you! ruclips.net/video/IGpC_2UMT4g/видео.html
@@TabletopDungeon Thanks bud!
How do they compare to Massive Darkness tho
That's a tricky question, both are similar yet completely different! I have Massive Darkness 2, but didn't really enjoy it. It felt like Massive Darkness 2 leans more into RPG mechanics, but only very superficially. Zombicide base game is unashamedly just mowing down zombies - a beer and pretzels game. The campaigns give you more RPG-lite elements, but still very basic. Massive Darkness 2 felt like constantly chasing Diablo-style loot drops. There's loot in Zombicide, but once you got a good weapon you're more interesting in strategising the mission goals. Zombicide is more accessible, with the same rules for everyone. Massive Darkness was a nightmare for me having to explain the unique character rules to each player.
Do you have a link for those event cards ?
boardgamegeek.com/filepage/280288/event-card-deck-for-zombicide-2e
Those 'airdropped specialist' card quite annoying.
Some or perhaps all Zombie heros might end up dead.😅
And then you have the dead keep board game coming in 2025 which seems to be a massive darkness 2 and zombicide mash up
Ahhh, I think I remember an email about that. Yeh, looks very similar to MD2, which I'm not a huge fan of to be honest. It all felt a bit random. Think I'll give that one a pass ;)
All of them. Except Marvel. Just not a fan of the super hero thing. I WILL be getting "The Boys" models though cuz that show is dope!