Ahh, VoiD played absolutely phenomenally. There were a few matches where he was literally like "Nah, you're not allowed to touch me for this stock." I used to watch him as Pichu, then I found out Sheik was just as gnarly. For me, he stands out just by play style alone.
He takes these characters that have an insane combo game but other bad weaknesses (ex. pichu weight, sheik killing) and learns every single thing about the way his moves into each other in a way that allows him to avoid those weaknesses altogether. It doesn't matter if you're light if you never get hit. So fun to watch
@@tomonator1361 Sheik's weakness isn't really considered killing (I mean it sometimes is, and especially in this set because I swear VoiD is usually better at killing, but) generally, Sheik mains say Sheik's weakness is her damage output (even if she combos you really well, she still needs to win 5-6 interactions to deal the same damage that most top tiers deal in 3-4) and her light weight combined with her fast fall speed making her easy to kill and easy to combo.
Honestly they gotta do something with the Kazuya's electric fist. I believe it was designed OP because it's hard to do, but when you master the character like Riddle does, it's just too OP in general terms. If it hits it's almost an instant kill. At least Sheik combos can be avoided but that electric fist is too fast and stuns the character... They should reduce its damage or launch range at least.
POPPT YOU ARE AWESOME AND I DONT THINK YOU'RE LAME. I think the level of optimization you pour into your gameplay is some of the coolest stuff to watch, I love it.
Please do more of these, love them. I like how you draw attention to all the positive game play, and give an alternative for the bad. Also SUPER entertaining just to see well-played top level matches that I wouldn't otherwise see, and I learn from it. Great work, God bless
@@matteofinazzi5087 doesn’t matter when most of moves kill at such low percent compared to shiek who needs like 20 different moves to do the same percent the character is overtuned my guy he is not balanced
@@demonlewds kazuya may be op, but he requires a lot of skill to get combos. his damage output may still need to be nerfed, but hes still just a high tier/ top tier character like pikachu and joker.
I think ppl underestimate how much a character like sheik pressures the opposing player to stay calm and not get frazzled. Ppl always say "oh but sheik needed a 7 hit combo to do 25 %". But when you're constantly wracking up 25-50 with a bunch of razzle dazzle, it affects the opponent in ways that are different from respecting heavy hitters.
Still, when all kazuya needs to match it is an EWGF, which riddles can do consistently 99% of the time, and he gets either more damage or a kill, there's certainly an imbalance
people dont get that sheiks neutral is among the best of all characters and she has way more chances to do a 7 hit combo than kazuya to do his 2 hits sheiks balancing is fine, the biggest problem is that she pretty much requires consistant perfection, there is not alot of room for mistakes
@@xdmon1220 Yup I think Sheik makes opponents make mistakes. But you're right that she still needs to capitalize on those mistakes and not get hit. I tend to have trouble playing close-range "get in" characters but I'm having a ton of fun with her. Normally I play Byleth so it's hard getting used to having so many less kill moves but the movement feels so good.
Also that weird looking super speed dashing that riddles is doing is crouch cancel dashing where essentially he is doing a dash and then crouching immediately after and repeating it causing there to be no lag after doing the first one which can result in a fast dash across the stage
Just to let anyone who doesn’t know EWGF ( electric wind god fist ) is really good on stages like ps2 and small battlefield since it is actually not possible to tech ( I think ). From my understanding when you go to tech you are still in hitstun from the electric and that’s why all kazuya players follow up with a waveland onto the platform and crouch in order to extend combos
Hey Poppt1! I know it been a while, but I still wanna thanks you for dropping by on my stream and giving me a second chance to redeem myself when I was playing Terry with those combo lag lol :D
Poppts was almost right about Sun Tzu. He in fact said in "The Art of War": If you're close make the enemy think you're far away and if you're far away, make the enemy think you're close.
wheres the problem if you can pretty consistantly combo into these smash attacks kills from needles, late nair and dai. then there is also bouncing fish and doublejump up air which can be comboed into from very fast and safe poke options which kills way earlier than 150. sheik is fine
Poppt, you should watch Leo playing Riddles in friendlies. It's on Leo's page. Don't have to do a video on it, it's over an hour long, but I think you'd really enjoy it. It's really sick.
To preface, I've never played Smash, but I'm a fan of watching and do play other traditional fighting games. I just don't understand how Sheik is balanced. Watching Kazuya vs Sheik, there can be a 100% difference, and I still feel like it's even. In most games, characters with mobility and lack of power have something else. Monstrous advantage or the ability to mix people to break Defense. But in Smash, neither of those are as imperative. The platform fighter format also means that it doesn't matter how much you chip away, you still have to hit certain moves to kill. Maybe it's the DLC privilege that makes Sheik seem like such a weak character, but all these points kinda stand even in Sheik's good match-ups.
She is balanced because of an absurd neutral game and the fact that all her combos (both for damage and killing) can come out of hits from moves with no lag. Her tilts and aerials require no commitment at all, they're basically spammable. She isn't a top tier, but most top players agree she's high tier because of her frame data and neutral.
I can’t believe this i was starting this video and i get a notification of marrs reaction of this set saying: How void lost a winning.... Spoiled, fuc...!
Has Poppt1 ever played in a tourney with players like void before? Like an American tourney for ultimate? I’d love to see how he stacks up against the Evo crowd.
It wouldn’t go well for him, honestly lol. Australia doesn’t have anywhere near the same level of competition. I mean, he would probably take some stocks, but not many games.
Very likely he doesn't. Not a lot of people do because it really hinders recoveries and can make up tilts hard if you use the left stick. He does low short hops by short hopping lol. Just jump low and press nair just after short hopping. To tilt with the right stick you need to set it to tilt stick instead of smash stick and it takes a while to get used to.
Also to add on to what the other guy said to short hop you just press the jump button and release really quick. If you use x as jump you can just move your finger across x to a to short hop nair
Riddles struggles feel less on kazuya more so on himself. He got desperate and started spamming. Kazuya has a plethora of moves and riddles frequently doesn't use a number of them
@@eaa1338 Most times Void forced those airdodges with a jump. If he wasn't airdodging, Sheik can react with an up air and combo into a smash attack. Sheik just pressures too much and like Void said, she doesn't have to commit at all.
If Nintendo ever needs hype footage to get new players playing the game. Just make Void and Riddles play like a best of 21 and force them to play their 3 best characters in it.
Ahh, VoiD played absolutely phenomenally. There were a few matches where he was literally like "Nah, you're not allowed to touch me for this stock." I used to watch him as Pichu, then I found out Sheik was just as gnarly. For me, he stands out just by play style alone.
He takes these characters that have an insane combo game but other bad weaknesses (ex. pichu weight, sheik killing) and learns every single thing about the way his moves into each other in a way that allows him to avoid those weaknesses altogether. It doesn't matter if you're light if you never get hit. So fun to watch
@@tomonator1361 Sheik's weakness isn't really considered killing (I mean it sometimes is, and especially in this set because I swear VoiD is usually better at killing, but) generally, Sheik mains say Sheik's weakness is her damage output (even if she combos you really well, she still needs to win 5-6 interactions to deal the same damage that most top tiers deal in 3-4) and her light weight combined with her fast fall speed making her easy to kill and easy to combo.
I love seeing Void do all those crazy Sheik combos for 50%, and then Riddles gets a 3 hit combo at 30% and kills him lol
Then people says Pyra and Mythra are op
But both are just as hard to replicate. Two highly difficult characters going at it is really fun to watch
@@federicomancini2705 they are
Honestly they gotta do something with the Kazuya's electric fist. I believe it was designed OP because it's hard to do, but when you master the character like Riddle does, it's just too OP in general terms. If it hits it's almost an instant kill. At least Sheik combos can be avoided but that electric fist is too fast and stuns the character...
They should reduce its damage or launch range at least.
POPPT YOU ARE AWESOME AND I DONT THINK YOU'RE LAME. I think the level of optimization you pour into your gameplay is some of the coolest stuff to watch, I love it.
He plays lucina, he's automaticly lame
@@Miguel-dy9lw bad
I swear, "That's Crazy" has become Poppt1's signature catchphrase. Take a shot every time he says it.
I cant, dont want to end up in the hospital XD
I don't support suicide sry
typing this from heaven
Mfs either gonna ascend to a higher plane, or see god, in one way or another!
I would if I had any chilli oil
"If you want to be close, make sure you're far away"
- Poppt wun tzu
BLESS THANK YOU FOR WATCHING THIS
This match is a great showcase for mental gameplay
Ah yes, bless thank you as well!
When riddles gets a hit in I brace myself for something crazy to happen
Void played so well this tournament, his sheik actually levelled up this invitational
"If you want to be close you need to make sure you're far away"
-Sun Tzu 'The Art of War'
“Sun Tzu said that!”
@@realchezboi "And I think he knows a little bit more about fighting than YOU do, pal, because he invented it!"
@@seanjohnson3401 "And then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honour!"
Please do more of these, love them. I like how you draw attention to all the positive game play, and give an alternative for the bad. Also SUPER entertaining just to see well-played top level matches that I wouldn't otherwise see, and I learn from it. Great work, God bless
Void's Sheik is one of the sickest and most fun characters to watch
DI'ing to avoid teching on platforms is actually a huge tip that I never thought of before
The one character that requires work to get kills vs the character that gets the most early kills and does extreme amount of damage
Dlc privileges at its finest also requires no actual skill either to play him
@@demonlewds Bruh ewgf has a 2-frame window for the imput and most of kaz's long combos are very tight
@@matteofinazzi5087 doesn’t matter when most of moves kill at such low percent compared to shiek who needs like 20 different moves to do the same percent the character is overtuned my guy he is not balanced
@@demonlewds kazuya may be op, but he requires a lot of skill to get combos. his damage output may still need to be nerfed, but hes still just a high tier/ top tier character like pikachu and joker.
@@aydenator2770 finally someone who actually agrees his damage is a bit to high at least
This is peak anime “Ninja vs Brute” type battle. SO DOPE!
“He wants to outspace things rather than being-
*PREMIUM PLUS CRACKERS, ENDLESS SNACKING POTENTIAL*
“ If you wanna be close, make sure your far away or something like that “
-Poppt1 art of sheik
I think ppl underestimate how much a character like sheik pressures the opposing player to stay calm and not get frazzled. Ppl always say "oh but sheik needed a 7 hit combo to do 25 %". But when you're constantly wracking up 25-50 with a bunch of razzle dazzle, it affects the opponent in ways that are different from respecting heavy hitters.
Still, when all kazuya needs to match it is an EWGF, which riddles can do consistently 99% of the time, and he gets either more damage or a kill, there's certainly an imbalance
people dont get that sheiks neutral is among the best of all characters and she has way more chances to do a 7 hit combo than kazuya to do his 2 hits sheiks balancing is fine, the biggest problem is that she pretty much requires consistant perfection, there is not alot of room for mistakes
@@xdmon1220 Yup I think Sheik makes opponents make mistakes. But you're right that she still needs to capitalize on those mistakes and not get hit. I tend to have trouble playing close-range "get in" characters but I'm having a ton of fun with her. Normally I play Byleth so it's hard getting used to having so many less kill moves but the movement feels so good.
I play Byleth too and had the same problem switching to Sheik! Still having a blast.
My guy popped off. Much deserved
I get the impression that Kazuya has no other good option than the neutral air dodge.
Sheik hits 20 moves: 70 damage
Kazuya hits 4 moves: 70 damage
Smash Ultimate is a fair and balanced game.
Sheik wins neutral for free, getting 20 moves on Kazuya as Sheik is about as easy as Kazuya getting 4 hits
Riddles is such a insane player with kazuja!
This set was by far my favorite at summit, so glad to see someone covering it
This whole set just looked rad as hell. Very awesome.
Bruh, this is literally just skill vs dlc privilege
Nah those electrics take skill what do you mean lol
@@goldenboy_808 Actually once you learn how to do it and you practice, it'll be as easy as snake pressing the B button
Riddles was so sad :(
Also that weird looking super speed dashing that riddles is doing is crouch cancel dashing where essentially he is doing a dash and then crouching immediately after and repeating it causing there to be no lag after doing the first one which can result in a fast dash across the stage
"If you want to be close, make sure your far away"- Poppt1
Now analyse their set in Alpharad’s Portal Smash
Riddles is amazing, just needs a little more mental game but he is completely killing it
Just to let anyone who doesn’t know EWGF ( electric wind god fist ) is really good on stages like ps2 and small battlefield since it is actually not possible to tech ( I think ). From my understanding when you go to tech you are still in hitstun from the electric and that’s why all kazuya players follow up with a waveland onto the platform and crouch in order to extend combos
I get they're REALLY good, but goddamn tbe effort put in by Void vs Riddles makes me wanna scream, I hate Kazuya so much oh my god lmaoo
Holy shit, Void's sheik is insane. Always a pleasure to watch
Dude the set with peanut vs riddles was insane
When?
It´s amazing that the Shiek spawns at kill percent
Every character spawns at kill percent against kazuya even bowser.
Wait, there are people who don't know about Kazuya 0-death combos?
I love getting back from my uni class and watch poppt1 when eating lunch
Hey Poppt1! I know it been a while, but I still wanna thanks you for dropping by on my stream and giving me a second chance to redeem myself when I was playing Terry with those combo lag lol :D
Can we please hear your thoughts on Tweek vs MkLeo?? You did some videos on MkLeo before so it would be interesting to what you think about the set!
I think he's saving that for last
@@smiar3 Lol I hope so
As a big Void fan you should analyze his set against Aaron
Poppts was almost right about Sun Tzu. He in fact said in "The Art of War": If you're close make the enemy think you're far away and if you're far away, make the enemy think you're close.
My favorite bait ever is that empty jump to bait out an option then killing them for it. So satisfying
“Watching voids sheik combos is like eating delicious food”
Only true smash ultimate fans will get this feeling
Any summit 3 analyzing will be appreciated
Banjo and Kazuya
I swear, I could watch competitive Shiek and Kazuya pros all day, they're such cool characters
now im ready for whatever set you wanna watch yet
Sheik is such a cool character, but man... Sheick not killing at over 150 with anything besides a smash attack or a ledge guard gives me anxiety!
wheres the problem if you can pretty consistantly combo into these smash attacks kills from needles, late nair and dai. then there is also bouncing fish and doublejump up air which can be comboed into from very fast and safe poke options which kills way earlier than 150. sheik is fine
Bro the face that sheiks not killing at 140% games straight busted.
Poppt, you should watch Leo playing Riddles in friendlies. It's on Leo's page. Don't have to do a video on it, it's over an hour long, but I think you'd really enjoy it. It's really sick.
The sheer amount of down tilts he used is just stupid
i wasnt even playing and last match had me tense. very cool that void won.
kazuya seemed pretty hype when he came out, but being as busted as he is, i'd rather watch a jigglypuff
Love the analysis videos
That Kazuya combo was probably one of the dirtiest things I’ve ever seen in Smash.
riddles is my fav player so this is rlly cool
Every war is deception -sun tzu the art of war
Love the set reviews!!!
So a human vs a computer cool my money is on the human
0:51
One might say, *custy*
When is Poppt1 gonna actually listen to the announcer say Kazuya’s name so he can say it right?
I'm 90% sure he's said it right at some point and then just gave up on trying
The craziest thing about this set was that Sheik dealt more than 100 damage through her first stock
Bruh shiek literally cant kill until past like 100. This is normal
THIS SET GAVE ME LIKE AS A SHEIK MAIN
I don’t know much about Void. I respect his skill but can’t respect his character
I remember Sparg0 vs Leo in Losers finals being super fun to watch, I don't remember why though
Wtf this is such a sick set
To preface, I've never played Smash, but I'm a fan of watching and do play other traditional fighting games. I just don't understand how Sheik is balanced. Watching Kazuya vs Sheik, there can be a 100% difference, and I still feel like it's even.
In most games, characters with mobility and lack of power have something else. Monstrous advantage or the ability to mix people to break Defense. But in Smash, neither of those are as imperative. The platform fighter format also means that it doesn't matter how much you chip away, you still have to hit certain moves to kill. Maybe it's the DLC privilege that makes Sheik seem like such a weak character, but all these points kinda stand even in Sheik's good match-ups.
She is balanced because of an absurd neutral game and the fact that all her combos (both for damage and killing) can come out of hits from moves with no lag. Her tilts and aerials require no commitment at all, they're basically spammable. She isn't a top tier, but most top players agree she's high tier because of her frame data and neutral.
Wonderful!
what was that noise 1:58
Riddles is over there thinking....man, Sheik is busted
Hey Poppt1 your videos brighten my day no matter if I'm happy or sad. Love ya dude!
I can’t believe this i was starting this video and i get a notification of marrs reaction of this set saying:
How void lost a winning....
Spoiled, fuc...!
and this comment spoiled my video
Has Poppt1 ever played in a tourney with players like void before? Like an American tourney for ultimate? I’d love to see how he stacks up against the Evo crowd.
It wouldn’t go well for him, honestly lol. Australia doesn’t have anywhere near the same level of competition. I mean, he would probably take some stocks, but not many games.
You should check out Marss vs Maister! It is really the most intense set of the tournament.
Kazuya is such a sick character and I’m glad they put in a character that represents the PS1 era of fighting games.
This match up is so fucked up for Kazuya bc sheik is very fast and might do 4 percent with her moves but could still stop kaz from doing anything
Nice!
Sheik:does combo and gets 44 percent
Kasuya:2 hit 56percent
sheik: wins neutral pretty much for free
kasuya: has to take guesses and rely on mistakes
😐
I think riddles should’ve gone with kazuya hellsweep to beat sheiks’s down tilt
This is like Ronda Rousey vs Mike Tyson
Hey Poppt! Question... do you use the "jump stick " setting? how do you do short hops and NAIR so low? and do you use tilt with right stick?
Very likely he doesn't. Not a lot of people do because it really hinders recoveries and can make up tilts hard if you use the left stick. He does low short hops by short hopping lol. Just jump low and press nair just after short hopping. To tilt with the right stick you need to set it to tilt stick instead of smash stick and it takes a while to get used to.
Also to add on to what the other guy said to short hop you just press the jump button and release really quick. If you use x as jump you can just move your finger across x to a to short hop nair
Anyone else here that voice crack by poppt1 2:52
Poppt- watch Esam's video... Kazuya has a True Combo 0-Death on every character.... (shulk excluded XD)
Were can I buy the jigglypuff hat
You should watch marss vs kola, that was a crazy set too!
Riddles struggles feel less on kazuya more so on himself. He got desperate and started spamming. Kazuya has a plethora of moves and riddles frequently doesn't use a number of them
He also tries to force center stage a lot when he gets juggled.
And of course the airdodge habit that poppt1 and void pointed out.
@@eaa1338 Most times Void forced those airdodges with a jump. If he wasn't airdodging, Sheik can react with an up air and combo into a smash attack. Sheik just pressures too much and like Void said, she doesn't have to commit at all.
Oh My god, there's already a world's Best kazuya? I didn't knew that, well this battle Will be Legendary
If Nintendo ever needs hype footage to get new players playing the game. Just make Void and Riddles play like a best of 21 and force them to play their 3 best characters in it.
I know you will probably not see this but you should react to present day riddles he is WAY better than VoiD now lol
Now the question is who would win in real life?
Sheik vs Kazuya
Ewgf ewgf vs d tilt up air up air
But 40% vs 10%
Dude Kazuya is actually broken
EWGF is one of the best moves in the game
I feel sad for Void who struggled so much against fucking DLC
has poppt ever made a video on the classic nairo ganon vs light set?
When are you going to react to Nickelodeon all star brawl???
13:57 auto tune Poppt
I'm all for my fellow canadian Riddles all the time
Funny how its the character who does massive damage in so little hits vs the character who does so little damage for crazy combos.
One bad edgeguard and he took 62% damage. Fuck....
do these two have a history? I just watched Alpharad's video at summit and Riddles did not look happy
They are really good friends irl
@@kero292 oh that's awesome, I'm glad
@@meddown6859 The fist bump bit at the start was just void being a troll to riddles
Can you watch Sparg0 vs Tweek?
Please do Aarons's Diddy vs Riddles!!!!