U.S. Army Pathfinder School | What You Need to Know

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  • Опубликовано: 11 апр 2021
  • This video is all about the US Army's Pathfinder School. I cover everything about the school in a "down-to-Earth" style in the hopes of letting you know what you really need to focus on, what will get you drooped, and how to be successful while at the school. I also give some tips for success before, during, and after the school! Let me know if you have any other questions in the comments!
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  • @Panicscroll69
    @Panicscroll69 2 года назад +112

    He nailed it. I spent three weeks essentially ignoring my family and my own health while in that school. Got my torch, when you think you’ve studied enough, keep studying.

  • @ScoutSniper3124
    @ScoutSniper3124 2 года назад +205

    The three hardest schools I accomplished in the U.S. Army in order of difficulty.
    1. DLI Basic Spanish Course, it was a BEAST because they expanded the curriculum, including 4 years of University level Spanish, and language immersion training, but keep the course at 6 months (actually 5 months if you take off Indoc, Army Skill training, and out-processing). Only 25% of those who started graduated, I made it by the skin of my teeth. Two classes after mine, they increased it to a 9 month course.
    2. U.S. Army Pathfinder school, the first school I actually struggled to keep up with. It as hard a mental challenge as DLI, but at least it was relatively short in comparison. It's ALL about Attention to Detail, and Committing those Details to memory. It was also a lot of fun during sling-loads and the FTX.
    3. U.S. Army Sniper School, a physically demanding school and full of teamwork. The single greatest thing to pass, is picking the right teammate to be your Spotter, it will literally make or break you. The mental part is basic math and transferring that to how you dial in the rifle, and keeping an eye on detail, especially during the Stalk Phase. Again FTX was a lot of fun.
    Any Soldier lucky enough to go through this or other 'high-speed' training should learn one thing beforehand, something Army Special Forces came up with "Luck = Opportunity + Preparation". Do NOT skip on the Preparation.
    SSG. U.S. Army (Medically Retired) Infantry / Sniper / Pathfinder / SOF Intel (SOT-A), multiple tours

    • @barak363363
      @barak363363 2 года назад

      Thanks

    • @alangwhiteTheBoss
      @alangwhiteTheBoss Год назад

      How do I get to go to DLI?

    • @andygarcia1918
      @andygarcia1918 Год назад +2

      @@alangwhiteTheBoss you gotta be qualified to be a linguist, either have a high enough gt score or get a waiver. Right now being peace time your chances of getting a waiver are pretty low. I think the post on top was learning a new language because Spanish is not a hard language, in fact it is one of the easiest in DLI.

    • @rsggbambino2710
      @rsggbambino2710 Год назад

      And to think I though green platoon was the hardest thing I’ve ever done😥

    • @ShaareiZoharDaas
      @ShaareiZoharDaas Год назад

      Can understand DLI for languages I like like Russian- German but Spanish bot so much..

  • @joemoore1718
    @joemoore1718 3 года назад +151

    1. Nomenclature
    2. Sling load inspection/ certification
    3. HLZ
    4. Drop Zones
    5. Practical Exercise/ UH60 jump
    Note: nothing is open book, exact numbers matter, and studying when you get there is too late. 2015 Graduate.

    • @eenis1281
      @eenis1281 2 года назад +1

      It sounds easy tbh

    • @thomasloveless4800
      @thomasloveless4800 7 месяцев назад

      This is the only school I failed in the Army. Sling load phase in a hangar at Benning in the summer. Hot as hell in that thing.

  • @jdelphzumba
    @jdelphzumba 3 года назад +106

    Just went through Pathfinder, an update on the shutdown on the training. Fort Benning 507th school will be disbanded, but other schoolhouses will pick up the training. So it's not going away...

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +11

      Thanks for the info! 👍

    • @ScoutSniper3124
      @ScoutSniper3124 2 года назад +8

      Good to hear. Unfortunately there's a gradual degradation in "continuity" when various unit run schoolhouses teach their own course. The whole point of a centralized schoolhouse, where Instructors from both Active Duty and Guard teach the same curriculum is that the end product is Soldiers who can ALL operate in the same manner off the same page.
      We learned this lesson the hard way at a barren stretch of sand called "Desert One". A lesson learned in blood, which led to the creation of U.S. Special Operations Command and training in KEY Skills like Pathfinder from ONE schoolhouse.

    • @jdelphzumba
      @jdelphzumba 2 года назад +6

      OK well what I know is that there are three school houses that teach both Pathfinder and air assault. Two active duty one at Fort Campbell and one at Fort Benning, and a National Guard School. All opinions aside it’s just a fact they are going from 3 to 2.

    • @micheal49
      @micheal49 2 месяца назад

      @@GrittySoldier Pathfinder is being retained but only for certain designated NG units.

  • @mretasterhotrod3063
    @mretasterhotrod3063 Год назад +16

    I went back in 2002 and it was very hard. I studied my A$$ off everyday and did nothing but school and studying. Lost a bunch of people on nomenclature test and another bunch more on the following test days. It was so much information that I felt like have a brain stroke. Got my torch and first time go’s every time. You definitely don’t want to be a retest ever. The anxiety stress levels will be too much to handle. Just study, study and study some more. Did I mention to study? First in, last out!

  • @cptyoyo5126
    @cptyoyo5126 Год назад

    Great video, as I listened to you talk about the course you were saying all of the things my buddy told me after he completed the course, so I hope people listen to what you are saying. Also I want to thank you for your service! My time in the Army got cut short thanks to some mortar blasts but I am alive still, thank God!

  • @kibblesemsbits
    @kibblesemsbits Год назад

    Really great to hear your input as somebody who went through while I was instructing there. You hit it all on the head from an instructors stand point. I was either waiting or had been recently selected for flight school but I probably gave you most of your DZ instruction.

  • @MrJimmycrab
    @MrJimmycrab 3 года назад +17

    One of the best schools I went to. Many years ago, Day 2 was a killer land nav test, which sent quite a few people home. We made 4-5 jumps during the 3 weeks too. Hope they don't close it down!

  • @oneshotnicky
    @oneshotnicky Год назад +1

    Awesome video, thanks for the insights! Been trying to get to Pathfinder for years - just got my 90A so hopefully soon!

  • @bigboyroadhouse5181
    @bigboyroadhouse5181 2 года назад +4

    I loved Pathfinder School! 2005 Grad.. 100% an eye opener..

  • @harterbob
    @harterbob 3 года назад +19

    Great video. I attended as a 15A (Aviation Officer) 1LT Black Hawk driver and graduated #1 in my class. When I attended there was less emphasis on academics and more on practical exercises. We made three jumps and spent several days and nights in the field each week. We also made a couple of tower rappels and a helicopter rappel. I enjoyed the course, and wearing the torch for the rest of my career.

    • @justingittemeier3412
      @justingittemeier3412 2 года назад +1

      Did you attend the course recently, and did you go right after flight school? I'm a 15A currently at Rucker looking to go to Pathfinder once I complete flight school

    • @harterbob
      @harterbob 2 года назад +2

      @@justingittemeier3412 not recently. 1983; probably before you were born. I went a couple of months after signing into my first aviation unit. At that time, you had to be airborne qualified in order to attend, and I was one of only a handful of officers in our battalion who was airborne qualified.

  • @Paddlesurfer32566
    @Paddlesurfer32566 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video! I went through in 1997 as an Air Force JTAC. The only thing different was I'm pretty sure we did sling load inspections first. I remember it because I had to retest. I was a little cocky from being a first-time go on JMPIs a few months earlier at jump master school. I didn't take the sling load test as seriously as I should have...but did pass the retest! I had a great time attending Pathfinder, one of my best military memories.

  • @EPGunman
    @EPGunman 2 года назад +7

    One of the best things about your videos is that you are a motivator!! You always let people know that they can do it. It may suck and it may be hard but if you want it you can achieve it!! True sign of a leader of men.

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for that! 🙏 I’m happy to be of help!!!

    • @EPGunman
      @EPGunman 2 года назад

      @@GrittySoldier Sir yes Sir!!

  • @marcusgrevel6832
    @marcusgrevel6832 3 года назад +4

    Great Video! First In Last Out! Sling Load Hands-On: You are on point on performing an 'imaginary' inspection when not at school. Future Pathfinders: PRACTICE YOUR SEQUENCE OVER AND OVER! ..And identify every possible deficiency (VERBATIM) during that imaginary inspection.

  • @arzentegc2641
    @arzentegc2641 2 года назад +5

    I attended Pathfinder school at Fort Benning in January 1977. It was excellent, realistic training.

  • @marksmusicplace3627
    @marksmusicplace3627 2 года назад +4

    LOL. I was a walk on too back in 1992 That day one test is no joke, You are spot on I was glad i had airborne training and air assault training and assisted on drop zone duties and really paying attention to Jumpmasters in my units. I got a hold of a pathfinder handbook study guide. This course is mentally brutal. spent a lot of time burning midnight oil. The black hats cut you no slack on those exams.

  • @tsbchase5702
    @tsbchase5702 3 года назад +2

    Great vid man super informative!

  • @austa10
    @austa10 3 года назад +43

    Stationed at Ft. Campbell and after fighting to get this course, I'm now getting the opportunity to go. I'm excited and nervous. Thank you for this video and information!

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +4

      Hell yeah no problem!

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 2 года назад

      Good luck to you crohn's disease ruined my shot at going it was always my dream to earn that badge.

    • @goarmybeatnavy841
      @goarmybeatnavy841 2 года назад

      Same brother going for Feb Class, get it!

    • @AznsrFUNNY
      @AznsrFUNNY 2 года назад

      I'm at FCKY as well and i'm a medic so it was hard for me as well. In it now on day 3 as of this comment.

    • @marioreyes9372
      @marioreyes9372 2 года назад +1

      @@AznsrFUNNY shiii howd it go bro

  • @MrGrenade121
    @MrGrenade121 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for the great Vid. I'll probably walk onto Campbell this summer for a slot and hope for the best

  • @jdub3999
    @jdub3999 Месяц назад +1

    Pathfinder graduate 2001. This video provided the best advice. Study, then study more. Flash cards (3x5) work well in your hotel room. Pathfinder and Jumpmaster two academically hardest schools for me.

  • @jamesarmistead9894
    @jamesarmistead9894 2 года назад +4

    I was lucky. When the Army still had Pathfinder units, I was assigned to C Co. (Pfdr/Abn) 509th Inf at Ft. Rucksr, AL. I had already spent 2 yr.s with 1/509th in Vicenza, Italy and went to Pathfinder school as a senior SP4.

  • @jacoblandrum2681
    @jacoblandrum2681 2 года назад +1

    Been out for years but always wanted this school. Never got it thanks to a total malfunction. Liked and subscribed. Keep killing it

  • @NoNo-nq6vs
    @NoNo-nq6vs Год назад +2

    Just went through and got my torch at Campbell. I watched this video a million times trying to get anything I could. I appreciate everything!

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  Год назад +1

      Glad to hear it! Congrats!! 👊

    • @AAGP361
      @AAGP361 Год назад +1

      Any tips for someone going in 2 months? Earned my AA badge in October 2022

    • @NoNo-nq6vs
      @NoNo-nq6vs Год назад +1

      @@AAGP361 study nomenclature now. Take it all one step at a time. Don’t get ahead. You’ll test that day 2 and day 4/5 you’ll test slings so study deficients right after that and get your reps in on the sling loads. Use the weekend as well to dedicate to study, however works best for you start. HLZ and DZs is when it’s math heavy and studying gets worse. Literally the only way to make it I think is to just study at all times.

  • @kevinpalmer886
    @kevinpalmer886 Год назад +1

    Cool video, i remember always hearing that math was the hardest part about Pathfinder school (obviously from people who had no clue or possibly badge protectors), but math was the easiest part with rhe aycronyms! Memorization is key, I went at Ft Campbell many years ago! (I've been retired 13 year's now)! I went as a Staff Sergeant! RAKKASAN!

  • @Zrelix
    @Zrelix 3 года назад +7

    @Gritty Soldier you’re right about them just limiting the number of places that host pathfinder school. Just graduated from air assault school at Benning and this was addressed. The black hats assured us that pathfinder will still be held at Benning

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +3

      I knew it! Thanks for sharing that!

  • @curingthenaivete1642
    @curingthenaivete1642 3 года назад +46

    There is a book entitled "Pathfinder: First In, Last Out" by MSG Richard R. Burns. It details stories of Burns time in Vietnam when he was just a Corporal making sure LZ's were safe and his experiences as a pathfinder back in the day. He was a walk-on to pathfinder!

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +3

      That’s awesome!

    • @NLYS27
      @NLYS27 3 года назад +2

      @@GrittySoldier The book is awesome I just finished reading it. He did some bad ass crazy stuff. Just saying the book has the MAC-V crest on it for a reason too.

    • @russherron7447
      @russherron7447 3 года назад

      excellent book

    • @ravenpaw95
      @ravenpaw95 2 года назад +3

      I read that book in basic, Pathfinder is the only badge I want just because of Burns

    • @ravenpaw95
      @ravenpaw95 8 месяцев назад

      @@duffelbagdrag I was part of the new 24 week OSUT cycle, it’s just a typical cycle, nothing news added to it, so take what the usually have in a 14 week OSUT cycle and spread it out between 22-24 weeks, creates a lot of dead time

  • @dbc603
    @dbc603 3 года назад +19

    I went through in 1986 (Class 12-86), and it sounds like much has changed...and much has remained the same. We had a class of 50, and 37 of us graduated. We were basically in the classroom or on the airfield 3 days/week, and went to the field 2 days/week. It sounds like there is much more emphasis on slingloads now, where we focused heavily on DZ/LZ operations.
    We did laugh at the "Gentleman's Course" characterization. We may not have gotten smoked or done organized PT, but the work was physical and pretty constant. We also pretty much *lived* Pathfinder all our waking hours. If we weren't in class, we were studying...period. Totally "drinking from a firehose" situation. You definitely cannot sham your way through this course, and it is one of my military achievements I am most proud of.

    • @eightyduece9670
      @eightyduece9670 2 года назад

      I think I went thru in 88-89 from Bragg as a Spc with a 93 series MOS. They were heavy on the DZ portion but we also had Medivac in addition to what he mentioned. Land Nav at night got a lot of members. It was challenging to say the least and I would have been so ashamed to have failed. Had to retest for DZ so didn't even make it for the class photo. LOL. I knda remember that you already had to have jump wings to attend.
      Most funny part for me as a Spec was when we got a chance to got to the chow hall (we had berets) the Airborne class members would holler "Make a Hole" and part like Moses parting the Sea so we could go to the front of the line. I know they thought we were cadre. LOL

    • @MrMojo271
      @MrMojo271 2 года назад

      Yeah, I was in 86-91 and I thought it was more DZ focused. I never went unfortunately

    • @TomP-nw4wu
      @TomP-nw4wu Год назад

      Same here, Class 5-86 (March?). Made some good jumps and land navigation was a big part of the course. Junior Enlisted Honor Graduate.

  • @germanstudent06
    @germanstudent06 Год назад +4

    You could almost combine Air Assault, Pathfinder and the ESB into one. Cheers Gritty, RLTW!

  • @hb2sami
    @hb2sami 3 месяца назад

    My nephew has the pathfinder badge. He said It was one of the toughest coarses he went through. Hs is an air assault instructor. He is a scout sniper unit leader. He’s my living hero. 4x combat tour vet. I’m so proud of him. Bates strong! 🇺🇸

  • @hope4ourfallen
    @hope4ourfallen Год назад +2

    Path finder was one of them fireside tales back when I was in. Almost like the lock ness monster..Ya would hear about pathfinder, but we only ever knew a guy "who knew a guy" that was an actual Pathfinder😉
    Congrats to the warriors who had the chance to earn the torch and carry on the legends❤️🇺🇲❤️Stay safe brothers!

    • @relicpathfinder2800
      @relicpathfinder2800 Год назад

      More rare are those that were actually in a Torch Wearer in a Pathfinder Unit during conflict.

  • @sugewhitejacoby8654
    @sugewhitejacoby8654 3 года назад +6

    I went through Basic,AIT, Airborne, Air Assault,RIP,RANGER, PNOC and never had a problem until Pathfinder. I suck at math and was out in week 2 I think. It was 40 years ago. Always wanted to go back and take more serious but never got the chance

  • @hb2sami
    @hb2sami 3 месяца назад

    SSG Jimmy Bates. A boss. So much respect to our military ! Thank you all. I’m so proud of my nephew. Thank you to all our service members! God bless you all. 🇺🇸 🙏🏼

  • @noeldickey3736
    @noeldickey3736 2 года назад +1

    Hello there Blackhawk! Awesome to see a brother, God Bless. Scouts Out!

  • @houseofcotes4402
    @houseofcotes4402 3 года назад +1

    Love the videos. Thank you!!!

  • @Michael-4
    @Michael-4 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant information!

  • @nicholasboucher3911
    @nicholasboucher3911 3 года назад +2

    Thank your SIr this is so clutch
    🇺🇸💯

  • @barnabyhoofer8044
    @barnabyhoofer8044 2 года назад +3

    There are some great books about the British Army's Pathfinder Platoon. Check out Pathfinder by David Blakely, and X Platoon by Steve Heaney MC.

  • @ObeyLegit
    @ObeyLegit 2 года назад +1

    Earned the torch yesterday!
    First In, Last Out

  • @micheal49
    @micheal49 3 месяца назад

    Back in the day (seventies), all you had to do was ask. Of course, about half washed out. But it was the most fun I ever had in a combat skills course.
    Lots of fun!

  • @williamjhunter5714
    @williamjhunter5714 3 года назад +9

    I was an Honor Graduate of basic training, always maxed all my PT tests, expert rifleman, top commander recommendation, no gigs at Air Assault...so I was awarded a slot to Jungle Expert School, Panama. Got my Balboa Badge and Jungle Tab.
    However, i always noticed this Pathfinder badge too and wondered about it, thanks for the video, sounds much more like a college course. Not easy. The Jungle School green hell obstacle course was tough, I dislocated my right knee during it when the troop behind me rushed me. I was in top shape though and it popped back in, finished the course. I graduated Feb 1986. Sadly that school is now gone.

  • @MrMojo271
    @MrMojo271 2 года назад +1

    Always wanted to go to pathfinder school!

  • @AustinCarterYT
    @AustinCarterYT 2 года назад +2

    You should start a podcast on all things army. Would be 🔥🔥🔥

  • @kennethforsythe8182
    @kennethforsythe8182 10 месяцев назад +1

    I got my class slot as a reward for training the first Iraqi Security Company in Mosul (2003). Then, MG Petraeus asked my team what schooling we wanted, I said "Pathfinder". He said that's too easy because the Sabalauski Air Assault School has a Pathfinder course. I was the only alternate, with CG memo, to get in. I first asked to get Pathfinder when I reclassed in January 1994.

  • @markcline1839
    @markcline1839 Год назад

    i remember going to air assault school in 1999 and them integrating pathfinder stuff in our training. they ened pathfinder back then and then restarted it for some reason. this was at fort polk louisiana

  • @kevinjsims1736
    @kevinjsims1736 2 года назад +19

    Currently in PF school now, and I can honestly say I wasn’t as prepared as I could of been. I was a walk-on for the course and I was very surprised I got in. But I’m still studying hard to do my best to stay in the fight. I’ll not leaving campbell until I get my torch 🗽
    This is def one of those courses where you HAVE to study and know the nomenclature and deficiencies list prior to be successful. If you start studying day 1 you will not make it

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the insight brother! Good luck man, keep your head in the books and keep practicing your equations!!!

    • @1anre
      @1anre 2 года назад +4

      Did you pass the course?

    • @kevinjsims1736
      @kevinjsims1736 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@1anreI did! It took me 2 tries but I made it. 2021 graduate

    • @1anre
      @1anre 9 месяцев назад

      @kevinjsims1736 well done man.
      Can you do a short video on your channel with your uniform where you go over what the experience was like and how it's impacted your army career ever since?

    • @MrGrenade121
      @MrGrenade121 6 месяцев назад

      Did you walk onto Campbell? Are you in the Army reserves?
      I heard it was hard to walk on a reservist

  • @Rome1sixteen
    @Rome1sixteen 2 года назад +2

    Have a buddy from my last unit who went and got his pathfinder. Not only did he get this rare badge but he got it as a specialist which is even more rare.

  • @MaxEPR
    @MaxEPR 2 года назад +6

    Soldier, your flag is hung incorrectly. When hung vertically, the blue field is on the left. You are no-go at this station! Otherwise, good info. ;)

  • @Skullduggerous_pirate
    @Skullduggerous_pirate 2 года назад +2

    Anyway you could post a link to the nomenclature study guide? Like the first thing you text on

  • @Nimreitz
    @Nimreitz 2 года назад +6

    My class had over a 50% fail rate. A HALO jump master rigger failed. Nothing stresses me out, and I was having stress headaches for the first time in my life. I would do all the practice problems in the book, consistently get every single one of them wrong, but fortunately from going through them and figuring out what I did wrong I learned enough to pass the tests. I think being a jump master might help, I was not airborne, I was just a regular E5. I get questions from Soldiers all the time about Pathfinder and my advice is always the same: don't go haha
    A few years later and I'm on an MSS and the only way to get resupplied was through slingloads. I felt very fortunate for having gone through the course.

  • @mikestrohbusch5434
    @mikestrohbusch5434 3 месяца назад

    Graduated from PATHFINDER course in 1971 at Fort Benning

  • @shootingbricks8554
    @shootingbricks8554 3 года назад +16

    I had a coworker who was a former LRST. He went to Pathfinder School for being in that unit and he actually put the preparations into it with those who went. Out of all the schools he's been to, Pathfinder was the hardest. He went in as a SPC which was impressive...and he always let people know that on one test, he was one question away from failing. A good amount of former air assault students failed in his course too which is surprising.

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +3

      Going as a SPC is very impressive. It’s a tough school and you definitely need solid discipline to get through it. Good on him!

    • @1anre
      @1anre 2 года назад +1

      @@GrittySoldier what’s an SPC?

    • @shootingbricks8554
      @shootingbricks8554 2 года назад +1

      @@1anre it's an abbreviation for Specialist in the Army. It's a rank with a pay grade of E4 in the Army.

    • @1anre
      @1anre 2 года назад +1

      @@shootingbricks8554 ok thanks.
      I’ve noticed most immigrants with university degrees who join the US army get this SPC rank as they can’t ge commissioned as officers at that point.
      I guess they feel their degree equates them to an E4 or something.

    • @shootingbricks8554
      @shootingbricks8554 Год назад

      @@1anre yeah for certain jobs, warrant and commissioned officers, you need to be an American Citizen to qualify for clearance.

  • @ejmolloy2954
    @ejmolloy2954 2 года назад +1

    You'll need a F7 waiver which a company commander can type up and sign in a few minutes.

  • @MrDunkin268
    @MrDunkin268 2 года назад +1

    What he said about asking for rewards (especially for pathfinder)….he could not be more correct.

  • @ilikeboobas
    @ilikeboobas 8 месяцев назад

    Bit old but just found a rabbit hole so here i am. Guess things changed, the way my uncle told it during vietnam, that was hardest course to complete, (either has chilled out a lot or was yanking my chain), said basically was jumpschool, airassault school, rigger school, loadmaster school, jumpmaster school, air traffic controller school, radiomen school, with advanced land nav course and cartography, and airfield construction practices all rolled into one.
    where they would drop you in with special forces to establish an airfield or LZ, then coordinate a DZ during a firefight. and because they where always in forward areas they where always tasked to recon an area for someone.
    He said they didnt play in Pathfinder school, he said he would rather stayed in nam than go through that again.

  • @TheMarines5637
    @TheMarines5637 3 года назад +4

    Graduated about 3 weeks ago, sounds like they are shutting down active component school houses but the national guard warrior training center one has no plans of closing but they will be doing more mobile training teams and not as many fort Benning classes.

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +3

      Ok but at least the opportunity is still there. Thanks for the info!

  • @wisemanplagueis4319
    @wisemanplagueis4319 Год назад

    I noticed you discussed
    1. Nomenclature
    2. Sling load inspection/ certification
    3. HLZ
    4. Drop Zones
    5. Practical Exercise/ UH60 jump
    I thought there was land navigation at Pathfinder?

  • @CRONKTEZ
    @CRONKTEZ 3 года назад +4

    Awesome info, I am fortunate enough to have Pathfinder as a reenlistment incentive as a SPC, hopefully one time go!

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +1

      Awesome man good luck! Just study your ass off and you’ll be good!

    • @robertkeys51
      @robertkeys51 3 года назад +1

      One of the classes that went through when I was at the schoolhouse (Campbell) had a specialist who was the honor grad so you got this!

    • @vince11harris
      @vince11harris 3 года назад +1

      That’s actually in your contract tho ?

    • @CRONKTEZ
      @CRONKTEZ 3 года назад

      @@vince11harris Yeah rog, I already have two good buddy’s, secure hard slots for June here at Campbell as a re-enlistment incentive. both SPCs

    • @vince11harris
      @vince11harris 3 года назад

      @@CRONKTEZ wow that’s crazy when do you go to pathfinder school

  • @lbcguy8723
    @lbcguy8723 3 года назад +2

    I served in a LRSD unit within the 82nd and didnt get the chance to attend this school but my brother just graduated last week at benning

  • @robertgagne824
    @robertgagne824 3 года назад +14

    my NCOs have been trying to get me into this and air assault but NGB keeps saying no.. sad cuz with my MOS (air traffic control), pathfinder operations is (in doctrine) one of our main mission sets.

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +4

      Both are great schools to get under your belt. I hope you get the chance to go.

    • @robertgagne824
      @robertgagne824 2 года назад +2

      @@GrittySoldier 10 months after making this comment, i just receiving an email saying my ARTTS slot for pathfinder is ready to go! i attend the ARNG warrior center course next month

  • @nike3000ca
    @nike3000ca 2 года назад +3

    In the Canadian Army, it's an 11 week grueling school for Elite level soldiers.
    I think it's the hardest course we have based on what friends have told me.

    • @sauljahboi5965
      @sauljahboi5965 2 года назад

      What about JTF2 or CSOR Selection?

    • @nike3000ca
      @nike3000ca 2 года назад

      @@sauljahboi5965 Great Question! Those aren't course, but selections. Now the courses after, I'm nit sure how difficult they are, but I'm assuming they are hard!
      I do know operators who have have failed pathfinder course.

  • @carsongrover9924
    @carsongrover9924 8 месяцев назад

    Not to go off topic, but, could you do a video about why you went into the Rangers specifically?

  • @warbaby1975
    @warbaby1975 7 месяцев назад

    I see you earned your spurs in 2nd ID as well. I was in the Spur Ride in South Korea at Camp Garry Owen in 2004 when I was in 4-7 CAV 2nd ID and had to do the Spur Ride again at Fort Lewis 2-1 CAV 4th Brigade 2nd ID in 2006. I got my Gold Combat Spurs twice in my Iraq deployments. Where did you earn your spurs at? unit wise?

  • @1anre
    @1anre 2 года назад +4

    The duration of the America Pathfinder course is kinda shorter than the Canadian Patrol Pathfinder Course that’s almost 70+ days & is said to be one of the hardest courses one can take in the Canadian armed forces.
    Not sure if there’s a similarly difficult non-SOF course in the US Army.
    But the torch emblem remains same across board.

    • @shootingbricks8554
      @shootingbricks8554 2 года назад +1

      Ranger School but more of a leadership course. Physically sucks more than mental

    • @1anre
      @1anre 8 месяцев назад

      @@duffelbagdrag oh really?
      Didn't know that's how simple the US' own was.
      You arill rarely see it on many people's uniforms, making it see as it its almost as difficult as the combat divers school, which you almost never see on anyone's uniform

  • @kevinbrooks6272
    @kevinbrooks6272 Год назад

    So, 2023 update for anyone trying to go, they have canceled MTTs, they've reduced slots, and it is MUCH harder to get into the school. My unit had me apply 6 times before the schoolhouse finally said yes!

  • @00andrescab00
    @00andrescab00 2 года назад +1

    My battery commander told us that Pathfinder School was the gentleman’s school since it was mostly academic lol. Also, not to be picky, and I could def be wrong, but I always thought the flag was suppose to be hung with the field of stars on the viewers left/heart side.

  • @TheActionTeamSellsHouses
    @TheActionTeamSellsHouses 11 месяцев назад

    Do they not do a final exam anymore before the FTX? I graduated in 2006 and that was a nightmare. I passed every exam on the first try until the final exam. I believe it was 5 sections and you retested based on sections passed or failed. Or is that what you're referring to as the DZ exam? Maybe they just do it in a different order now. The part I struggled with was the CARP bubble chart problems if that's still a thing. I'm old and I suffer from CRS.

  • @gotmurica6225
    @gotmurica6225 8 месяцев назад +2

    The torch is the only thing I really want!

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  8 месяцев назад +1

      Then go get it!!!! 👊

    • @gotmurica6225
      @gotmurica6225 8 месяцев назад

      @GrittySoldier that's definitely a goal!. I'm just the type that needs a headstart to get the upper hand to guarantee success when I go for it

  • @bluestreak808
    @bluestreak808 2 года назад +4

    National guard soldier here, completed air assault a couple months ago and have been shooting for more schools and was told I may get pathfinder if I do decent at best warrior competition. What are any TMs and guides I can use to study beforehand?

  • @zacharyweiss3488
    @zacharyweiss3488 3 года назад +2

    On your most recent community post on his uniform is that a JSOC unit patch? Thank you for your and your friends service!

  • @nathanfair2595
    @nathanfair2595 8 месяцев назад

    I’m not sure why guys from Campbell are going to benning for PF. We have it here at TSAAS

  • @zacharyhunkele6056
    @zacharyhunkele6056 Год назад

    When you went did they have the airborne qualified students jump during the FTX?

  • @mario3804
    @mario3804 Год назад +2

    Hey brother just wanted to let you know the flag is not properly displayed. Hope all is well.

  • @inkognito3147
    @inkognito3147 2 года назад

    After completing pathfinder school, are you allowed to choose the oil company you are wasting your life for?

  • @abbuassin21
    @abbuassin21 5 месяцев назад

    I have a question, what is the two finger used for?

  • @nicholasjordan6864
    @nicholasjordan6864 Год назад

    On the first test do you need to know Rated Capacity also?

  • @Thejudge4545
    @Thejudge4545 3 года назад +5

    I am going to be a Infantryman, will I be able to go to all the schools and courses like, ranger school, air assault school, jump school, pathfinder school etc?

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +1

      You’ll be eligible for all of those!

  • @fernandooro4019
    @fernandooro4019 3 года назад +3

    Can you do a video on how to improve on the acft?

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +2

      Absolutely! I’ll work on it! 💪

  • @notmisael9367
    @notmisael9367 3 года назад

    Wait so no Land Navigation during the course ?

  • @ObamaSaidHeLikesMe
    @ObamaSaidHeLikesMe 3 года назад +3

    3:00 never thought of that. 🤔

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад +1

      Yea man any time you do even the slightest good job at something, ask for more as a “reward.” That’s a good SOP to practice. 👍

  • @armylife88
    @armylife88 Год назад +1

    Hey man I just graduated Air Assault school. Wondering if I should try to get in pathfinder school while the Air Assault stuff is still fresh in my mind.. or is the sling load, L/Z, and P/Z info different in pathfinder school

  • @beretverde8669
    @beretverde8669 3 года назад +2

    No landnav? It failed several in 1987.

  • @boomshakalaka7396
    @boomshakalaka7396 3 года назад

    What's with the USASOC patch in the back?

  • @morganrigsbee4274
    @morganrigsbee4274 2 года назад +1

    Here before one year

  • @edwardvanduzer4284
    @edwardvanduzer4284 10 месяцев назад +2

    And the first thing I see is that your American flag is hung incorrectly.

  • @JosephCamacho-df1jz
    @JosephCamacho-df1jz 8 месяцев назад

    Went to Ranger school then straight to Pathfinder school in 89’

  • @langleyj8199
    @langleyj8199 3 года назад +1

    Interesting

  • @mackdyegames3035
    @mackdyegames3035 Год назад +2

    You had to wait 11 years for pathfinder school? ROFL You going to hate me dawg! I was scheduled to go to pathfinder school during my 5th year as a specialist. I wasn't even combat arms technically. I was unit supply specialist in infantry units. Most notably the 172nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team AKA 1st Brigade 25th ID. I did help my soldiers go on patrol/mission in Iraq when I didn't have logistics stuff to do. I was at Fort Benning already, stuck in a shitty OSUT training unit, when Ranger school and Pathfinder school were offered to me. I could have went airborne and air assault school if I wanted it too. Problem is I never got my fitness to a level I no longer had to worry about. The battalion commander was cool and knew my battalion commander from Iraq deployment well. I was doing the job of three people and helping the drill sergeants in the field. I worked more hours in garrison then I did in the combat zone. Like WTF?! No time off ever. Just work 16+ hour days 6 days a week and maybe a Sunday off on occasion where I would have to sleep. Wife and I lived right on base but I hardly ever got to see her. After a year and a half of just sucking it up I finally broke and got frustrated and decided to just leave service. Sadly I was offered no help and no mentoring. Had people given me the help I needed at the time I could have had one hell of a career. I would have hit retirement next summer.

  • @RickEllis68
    @RickEllis68 6 месяцев назад

    One of the schools I really wanted to go to but never got the chance…
    On a side note, your flag is displayed wrong…the field should be the the left as you look at it.

  • @adamn5725
    @adamn5725 3 месяца назад

    Thought the US Pathfinders were the same as the UK Pathfinders. Wrong. Guess the Ranger Reconnaissance unit would be the same as the UK Pathfinders ??? Anyone able to clarify ?

  • @ShaunsJeep
    @ShaunsJeep 3 года назад +2

    I got out of the Army back in 2016. Why am I watching this now lol...

  • @sworuppradhan9219
    @sworuppradhan9219 Год назад

    Is there any pre-requisite for Pathfinder

  • @OR_Wolfhunter
    @OR_Wolfhunter Год назад +2

    As a former 11B looking to get back in and go the warrant aviator route (fingers crossed 160th) from past experiences, it seemed that any SOF units got all the schools and training their little hearts desired. Is this still the case or have things changed?

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  Год назад +1

      Still the same I think 😆

    • @OR_Wolfhunter
      @OR_Wolfhunter Год назад

      @@GrittySoldier I know I’m putting the cart before the horse but hey, the Army has changed sooo much since the 2010’s 😂

    • @NoNo-nq6vs
      @NoNo-nq6vs Год назад +1

      Currently in 160th, you will not come here after flight school, you’ll usually do 2 years regular army time first. Recommend making PC and being very confident in your flying abilities and the unknown. But for most schools yes, pathfinder, ranger, etc no, we even fight for these and don’t get them much at all.

    • @OR_Wolfhunter
      @OR_Wolfhunter Год назад +1

      @@NoNo-nq6vs Good to know, thanks!

  • @gmmbender
    @gmmbender 3 года назад +2

    GT score and MOS waivers must be approved by USAIS.

  • @DecentPlayerNA
    @DecentPlayerNA 3 года назад +4

    Okay cool I have 30 days to learn sling load nomenclature

  • @johnrodriguez3870
    @johnrodriguez3870 Год назад +2

    #1) What U.S. Army MOSs qualify for entrance and eligibility into Pathfinder School? #2) Are Service Men from All 6 Branches of Service ( United States Army,Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, and Coast Guard) eligible to earn the Pathfinder Torch?

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  Год назад +1

      Anyone can go as long as they have a waiver (which is very easy to get)

    • @johnrodriguez3870
      @johnrodriguez3870 Год назад

      @@GrittySoldier , This 53 Year Old Prior Service USMC and United States Army Veteran ( 1987-1998, with 1 Year and 4 Months in the Army National Guard ( ARNG) and US Army Reserve ( USAR) , Thanks You for Military Forces Service as a Commissioned Officer, and, the Point Man for " Gritty Soldier", for You just gained a New Subscriber. Thank You, Sir. Former Cpl., / SGT( USMC and US Army) Rodriguez, Roger Out!!

    • @dw7094
      @dw7094 3 месяца назад

      When I went (1972) it was open to E-3 and above as long as PUHLES was 111121 or better, your CO recommended you and your GT Score was 110 or higher. No waivers. A 110 GT score meant that the rest of your ASVAB scores were all above 100. As far as other skills go, you needed to be able to employ some Basic Training skills ( COMMO & LANDNAV), 9TH grade general math, and be able to read, write and comprehend at the 12th grade level.

  • @tylerlawlerDEVGRU
    @tylerlawlerDEVGRU Год назад

    How's this badge for the Olympics. I got one on my uniform too! See ya soon.

  • @stewarttrains98
    @stewarttrains98 3 года назад +2

    Recently heard They are now leaning towards you must be air assault qualified prior to going to pathfinder

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  3 года назад

      Interesting. I definitely think it help having Air Assault done first, but didn’t think it was really necessary.

    • @57ryanearl
      @57ryanearl 2 года назад

      Also, adding being JM qualified and looking at making a no waiver school as well.

    • @shootingbricks8554
      @shootingbricks8554 Год назад

      My buddy said the sling load procedure in Pathfinder School isn't the same as Air Assault's.

  • @albertw6461
    @albertw6461 2 года назад +1

    What's the biggest difference between army pathfinder +JTAC in compared with CCT's Air Traffic Control course

    • @GrittySoldier
      @GrittySoldier  2 года назад +1

      Prepping for and Controlling airborne troop and equipment delivery.

    • @Not_A_JTAC
      @Not_A_JTAC 2 года назад

      JTACQC is much much much much different than pathfinder. Not really comparable at all

    • @shootingbricks8554
      @shootingbricks8554 Год назад +1

      JTACs call in airstrikes. In the USAF, CCTs focus on calling in strikes from various aircraft. In Marine ANGLICO units there are few JTAC Marines who are Pathfinder qualified but most of the actual Pathfinding missions go to Recon units.

  • @Starlesslemon
    @Starlesslemon 2 года назад +5

    "I'm the best Ranger tab in my unit" "It's not hard to get into Pathfinder School" lmao

    • @sevenswrld6368
      @sevenswrld6368 2 года назад

      Can u go to both path finder and airborne school doing ur service

  • @elliotv5354
    @elliotv5354 Год назад +1

    This man is a model soldier. He's literally done everything .-.

    • @elliotv5354
      @elliotv5354 8 месяцев назад

      @@duffelbagdrag Very fair point