Trouble in the Water: Hawaii's Climate Crisis
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2024
- Long before there was a crisis in Hawaii involving flames, there was a crisis involving water: water that climate change was drying up, scarce water going to tourist activities instead of locals, and then tainted water that poisoned thousands with jet fuel from Red Hill. Months before the Maui wildfires, CBS News traveled to O'ahu to see what experts call an immense and existential threat to life on the island.
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Close down pool surfing immediately. That is just ridiculous when you have ocean in walking distance.
That is unbelievable.
I live in Central Texas. It's like building a huge indoor stadium with an artificial sun powered by a coal burning power plant so tourists can experience the blistering Texas summer. ☀️
But what will all the privileged/spoiled rich people do?
But how will the Wall-E weeble-wobbles experience anything?
Military is number one priority. It is above all.😢
@@greenthumb8266they can go to the ocean like the rest of us!
Crazy how many people have not heard of the water contamination that happened in military housing back in 2021 . My family and I were one of many poisoned by the jet fuel in our water .
Never heard of this at all
Wow I’m truly sorry to hear that. You may be aware that some herbs and supplements can help the organs to eliminate. Wishing you the best in your healing!
I’m former military, my son is current military… I’ve advised him to drink zero base water, or water anywhere around a base. Period
The military needs to be held accountable 100%
When you sign up for the military you hand your life over. You even sign an agreement that holds the government not responsible for anything that happens to you including your death.
Can tell you not from here because it’s been happening since 2000s try again with that 2021😂
Where is our humanity? Hawaii is a jewel being crushed under the weight of greed and apathy.
Corruption greed all of them with nefarious agenda
Greed and apathy is humanity (human)
Hawaii votes democrat, to be expected.
Correction: the entire Earth is a jewel, but few care.
@@gsp49
What?
💔
Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
I grew up on Oahu in the late 50s.
Heartbreaking to see how fast human wrecklessness can destroy the earth.
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Desalinate the some odd quadrillions of salt water gallons surrounding your islands. “That’s expensive”. Well, um, find a way. Maybe a haole will figure it out before “victims” stop pedaling climate change for power and call for depopulation.
@@KINGH4L0
What?
Greed kills.
the whole world
Greed rocks and I love my government!
@@OregonCrow I guess you’ll find out the hard way. It’s a lesson you can’t escape.
@@WoodstockG54 k
@@WoodstockG54why are they in Oregon? I think they’re getting ready to leave on probation!
it's sad how little people respect the earth/nature that provides and sustains us
It’s not a water problem, it’s a population and tourism problem.
The tourism is largely responsible for creating a water problem. All that water going in wave pools and on golf courses? That’s water people could have used for drinking and agriculture that supports local farmers. It’s absolutely an interconnected problem. You can’t talk about one without factoring in the others. There also wouldn’t be a population problem if tourists and investors weren’t buying up real estate.
And a military problem too.
And the Hawaiian people seem to forget that it takes a massive cargo ship loaded to the hilt full of oil delivered every single day! Hawaii imports an amazing amount of oil for transportation and energy.
Haoles should leave and not come back. The Caribbean is closer,
@@SusanKay- That's fine, and the haoles can take back their oil imported to the islands which is roughly 1 cargo ship loaded full of crude oil every single day of the year! That's roughly 29,000,000 gallons per day that you "locals" consume! And you are so in touch with the land? What an effing joke!
As a citizen of the USA... This is shameful. Our military has accountability here and need to do whats right
Hello from Flint
Lol
This is nuts! I was aware Hawaii was having trouble with fires, but jet fuel in the water. Woah!
@@theOGabcduong no they can't.
Japan is throwing away radioactive water, but the U.S. and Canada have nothing to say and don't let the people know, right?
Yeah. I didn't know about this!!! 😮
And what Hawaii politicians do Build more houses so they can sell to outsiders
Hawaii is a very corrupt state
This is easy to solve
it was real bad, government didnt do anything about it until their own kind started getting impacted by it
Who the hell thought storing jet fuel underground was a good idea?
Thats just stupid
the us navy. but you have to understand the historical context. it was built during WWII. navy saw how vulnerable they were after pearl harbor was attacked. the navy's fuel for their ships was just sitting in large tanks near the harbor, so afraid of more attacks, especially on fragile fuel tanks, the navy built a fuel storage facility underground on a ridge near pearl harbor (red hill). it was never meant to still be in use almost 80 years later, it was built quickly and cheaply in haste during the war. which is why its leaking. it should of been decommissioned and demolished after wwii but instead the navy started using it to store jet fuel. indeed stupid. its finally gonna be demolished but only after it poisoned our water supply
You do realize that all fuels are stored under ground. Pipelines run under ground at airports to fuel the jets. You don't see fuel trucks at bigger airports. That's tell's you that it's under ground.
Many of the gas/diesel stations have underground tanks, most are under the pumps and parking lots. Local ground conditions may exclude this option. (Typo)
Leaving metal tanks, of FUEL, in the heatwave sunshine is a good idea?!
Well ZZ……you genius ……..we’re all waiting…..baited breath…..FOR YOUR SOLUTION!!!!!!!
An important point missed in this report is that Hawai'ians of ancient times clearly understood the respect for, value of and importance of water.
In the Hawai'ian language water is called wai, wealth is waiwai.
With plenty of water we have everything, without water we are nothing.
This whole situation is a real shame.
Yes somehow it just seems like there is no responsibility for anybody or anything anymore . It should be made that these companies are responsible for matters like this because we have to live here. We just can't get off of this planet when mankind destroys it and go to another one and even if they did they would destroy that one eventually also
@@jeffreyhusack2400 Our only hope is to receive Jesus.
@@MeneTekelUpharsin yes but is Jesus capable of fixing the twisted mess that humans with free will have freakin created? Aw come on. If this were the case this planet would be free of any nefarious leaders and toxic waste spewing everywhere. Please. Leave Jesus out of it.
@@MeneTekelUpharsin WWJD? The billion dollar question. With no possible answer. We can guess what he wouldn't do.
@@jeffreyhusack2400
I agree. The irritating thing is when the damage is done,these companies are non-existent. They changed into something else decades ago. This is only one way that they can avoid justice. They can become incorporated and not have to pay money that they're being sued for. The two tiered justice system is not just in the US.
As a former resident of Honolulu in the late 60s, it's incredible that this is happening there. I'm familiar with the water system in the Pali mountains, how it was built, where it is, etc. My heart goes out to the locals and hope a solution will be found soon, swiftly implemented, saving people's health and local farmers. Aloha from Austria.
I recently visited Maui, just weeks before the fire. It was the most beautiful, peaceful place I’ve ever been. I pray that your land will recover and that you will regain the authority over your natural resources 🙏🏻. I wish indigenous people were given the authority to handle conservation of resources everywhere. It is sacred to all of us, but it seems only the indigenous peoples recognize that we cannot keep taking from nature and hope to have food and water for our children.
At the beginning of this video, the woman being interviewed said she wonders if they will be able to live there for another 2,000 years. I'd be surprised if humans are still here in 2,000 years.
@@GNMi79 It's strange when you look that up. You can see it was anywhere from 800 to 1,600 years ago.
I'm still going with my prediction humans won't be around for another 2,000 though.
@@marcd1981 Black Afroasians settled Hawaii over the past 20'000yrs; according to new genome mapping results and artifacts of African settlement from the Pacific to the Americas.
"Luzia Woman Migrations" ancestors were also from Hawaii/Easter Island/AUSTRALIA.
You can see Indigenous Black rulers/peoples of Hawaii in the 1800sAD images/photos!
*Ban the building of more resorts, kick out 3/4 of the existing ones, start implementing very strict water laws towards huge tourism industry users of fresh water or ban them out of using freshwater at all ban golf courses and Force them out too eventually*
This is the nefarious u s government. They are vicious immoral and have no kuleana can not make pono no malama. Without this way of life where leaders are concerned there is no hope.
They use reclamated water at the golf courses here on Maui
None of that will happen because it's also a large source of income for the entire community.
Put the plant in
I wish. A lot of people rely on resorts for income right now, but I bet if they stopped rampant tourism, things would normalize. More Hawaiians live outside of Hawaii than in it, because it's the most expensive place in the US to live. I would love to see the majority of tourists kicked out, and the Hawaiians asked to come home.
Understand this. Anything America is willing to do to indigenous and native people, they will do to their own as well. That little bit of contempt meant or acknowledgement they have for people and their lives is for everyone, not just a select few.
A.greed!
Wow ! Heart breaking human made environmetal disaster. Beyond repair😮😮
RIP Hawaii
@@emeliealegonero4043 Hawaii . . . Australia . . . California . . . China . . . India . . . Pakistan . . .
They even made false claims saying "2000" years, when the most conservative estimate is around 1000, as they arrived between 1000 and 1200 A.D.
This is serious. Talk about an infrastructure thats crumbling. It’s unconscionable that the US has the military budget it has and hasn’t addressed this sooner. Especially with water shortage issues affecting Hawaii.
Why isn't the water in the "Wave Pool" sea water? Why use potable water?
Who knows, we clearly aren't being told everything
My same thought.
They would need to filter the salt from the sea water and they simply do not want to spend the money for the filter system.
It’s likely less profitable for the poor business.
@@GNMi79You’re aware that there are pools that use potassium chloride (salt) instead of chlorine, right? Point is, that’s not really as big of an issue as you’d like to claim.
Hawaiian Islands are beautiful with rich culture and humble people. Always had respect for the people of islands there. Always will. ❤ Pray mother nature has mercy. ❤
But it's not about mercy , it's about living on a volcanic island, that produces iffy gasses , that start fires & keep them going , it's going to behave this way no matter who lives on it , 🗻
Pray Abba Father has mercy.. We all need to repent.. Thats why judgements are happening.. Its biblical that in the last days God would scortch men with heat.
"Humble" people?????????????????????????????????????????????? Hawaiians are PROUD, buddy.
Thank you, CBS, for covering this abomindable crisis.
Hawaii sounds like one of the few places where desalination plants make a lot of sense.
It sounds more like an issue of water conservation versus climate change. Keep in mind that Hawaii is a chain of volcanic islands out in the middle of the desolate Pacific Ocean..not a lot going on out there, And the water is obviously salty because it's litterally the ocean. I don't think they've even had a 100°F reading since they started recording it in the 1890s or so. If anything it just doesn't get as cold in the winter.
That would require tremendous amounts of fossil fuel energy which they have to import & store.
@@bgregg55 they have volcanoes they have essentially free energy if they put geothermal plants
yes because when Im on vacation in Kauai I like to take 30 minute showers and wash off my beach clothes and beach stuff in the shower too, I use a lot of water. its a beautiful place to vacation. have a good day!
Forget desalination, start giving out personal solar stills!! no electricity needed!!!!
Why don't they use the ocean water for that wave pool?
Yes exactly what I was thinking 🤔
The pump and all the materials would be vastly more expensive because of the corrosive nature of salt water. Therefore it essentially boils down to greed. Cutting cost and maximizing profit is the objective.
@@GNMi79
Yes "how much people would be willing to pay". That part encourages greed. Are you being serious? I hope not
@@user-ke9yk5qp3uWhen potassium chloride (salt) filtration pools exist, that’s not really as valid of an explanation as you’d like to think, unfortunately. I’m sad to have to point this out, because I wish it were that simple.
@@DiscoDashco still need an oxidizer! Maybe take some city college classes in your spare time. 😂😂😂😂
I have an idea! Stop the wave pool and get those people into the sea.
Im so sorry my fellow Americans are going through this. Prayers and blessings to you
I appreciate the accurate account of what is going on at Red Hill.
The military says those tanks cannot be replaced ?. Really ,anything made by man can be redone. What they're really saying it's a money cost that they don't want to spend.
I'd say they better start draining those tanks and doing some transferring to a safer place.
Right? They clean up nuclear power plant meltdowns, oil spills in the ocean, and clean off the ducks. And then make a soap commercial out of it.
It is an island. There is no room for error. None. There is sacredness and fragility. The results are in. Cause and effect.
@@river4462 don't know why that fuel couldn't be at least transfer from there to a ship
@@GNMi79 that fuel was put in there somehow take it back out the same way and Transit transferred to a tanker ship
@@GNMi79 somehow they have to transfer to holding ships and redo those fuel tanks what else can you do?
Stay Strong Native Hawaiians, the time is upon humanity when humanity must understand and Unite against greed and the entities of Life and LOVE will prevail.
Jerome A Jones
Sorry... greed will win.
@@user-qr7ee2cp4y Greed is starting to lose in California, Canada and China.
Stay strong Hawaii and keep importing that massive amount of oil that you so rely on for your comfortable lives!
This contamination of the ground water and the releases of AFFF by the Navy poses a serious threat to human health. The navy needs to clean up the contaminants in groundwater, but that will take a long time. The navy needs to immediately provide clean water to replace the water in the aquifer that they contaminated.
Why is there a wave pool in Hawaii?
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH! So duh, people duh can duh have FUN on it? DUH?
@@shaggybreeksYou’re not helpful.
Well, it's in Ewa Beach. It's not a traditional tourist area.
My guess is the real estate was cheaper there. Have to imagine it's almost more locals than tourists. Or a good portion of locals.
It doesn't always swell in Hawaii and depending on the season, it's different parts of the island.
Aeroponics is the key to crop cultivation, mixed with geothermal heating and cooling, and simple design
Stand up for yourselves. Everyone.
Thank you
I lived, studied and worked in Honolulu for 26 years from 1969 to 1995, and have a daughter who works at Tripler Army Hospital in the near this Navy disaster. For 20 years I worked for the Army Corps of Engineers doing environmental impact assessment so all of this is familiar to me not only as a scientist but also having lived there and interacted with local Native Hawaiians. I was only vaguely aware of this problem before watching this show.
I never faced a situation in my environmental studies in Hawaii where I had to not tell the truth but I did experience cover-ups in doing a social impact study for the Army at its Kwajalein Missile Range facility in the late 1980s. My study was rejected for telling an unwelcome truth. I can see how the Navy covered up their unwelcome truth of fuel contamination. They were never as transparent as the Army in the State of Hawaii regarding environmental facts.
Thank you CBS for this story.
As a kanaka (Native Hawaiian), thank you CBS for reporting the issues of my home. I hope I can make a change in my community, your episode gave me more knowledge and urge to take action. It is important that people around the world, especially on the continental USA know whats happening because with their help, we can progress more and faster.
Help homes set up rain water tanks to capture rain water, and legislate into law for landlords of houses to provide that for their tenants. Government need to start building desalination plants for future water emergencies (put solar panels on the roof of plant to offset some of the costs of energy). Put into law that some businesses and industries need to recycle/reuse their water. Ban use of drinking water on lawns.
I think there are some restrictions on who can have rain catchment systems. The idea is that the rainfall should replenish aquifers. But if the aquifers are contaminated, rain catchment should be government subsidized, in my opinion. The people should be able to have uncontaminated water in a place where it falls out of the sky every single day. I don't think desalination plants are the answer, because that's just another thing that can go wrong in the future.
@@sharimeline3077 not having desalination plants as a backup plan is pretty dangerous given you're on an island. People can go for weeks without food, but only days without drinking water. If climate change gets worse, and rainfall reduces due to that, there's not enough rain to replenish aquifers, where will you get water from? And the existing aquifers are contaminated. What if something happens and mainland US isn't able to ship clean water to you in time? Always have a back up plan because we can't predict future events and disasters
We're standing with you Hawaiians. Govt. needs to stop interferring & take care of our country first.
🙏🏽
This is unbelievable
Never heard of the water contamination until today. This is terrible.
What is this title about??? It wasn't due to the climate crisis. It's because of company greed. Particularly, the chemical dumping.
Because they want to attribute everything to the 'climate crisis' so they can justify totalitarian actions in the near future. The best enemy is an invisible one...
Ty I sent this to my daughter on that base 😮
Cheers bro from NZ
Are the rich having this problem. Or is it isolated
Rich get lush green golf courses, and millions of gallons a day water parks/wave pools. Overdevelopment already destroying our ocean resources. Paradise has been carved up and developed so much, the nature left in the undeveloped pockets is suffering.
the rich are the ones causing the problems
The rich are causing this problem!
@@meegssan5716 Yes the Navy's well directly below it is still contaminated. They are only now finishing the defueling and still have hundreds of thousands of gallons of waste sludge byproduct they will need to figure out how to handle next. Remediation of the contaminated well is not likely to happen for decades. The BWS has cordoned off the wells nearby and is bypassing using other wells to supply the 75% of the island affected (the aquifers surrounding red hill feed the densest urban populaces of the island.). Red hill is only a small fraction of the military occupation's disregard for the environment and citizens. Look up "ordinance reef", makua test range, etc. Almost a century of dumping the most nastiest stuff in the peoples backyards.
Ty CBS!!!!
I'm so disgusted with the Navy's "PR statement" ! Their legal statement means NOTHING! GET IT OUT OF THE GROUND AND OUT OF THE WATER NOW!!!
Furthermore, the civilians....real humans.....will NOT STOP FIGHTING FOR CLEAN WATER, SOIL, AIR, and FOOD!!!!
That is unfortunate.
This is very alarming. 💦
A bit confusing for people who are unfamiliar with the islands of Hawaii. They open with the Lahaina fire on Maui but this story is supposed to be about water on the island of Oahu (where Honolulu and Waikiki are located). The mixing of jet fuel with potable water is simply unconscionable. That is an emergency!
Yeah, they did a bit of mixing and matching.
I think it was focusing on 2 main issues:
- climate change impact to water levels. It's generally thought that climate change (drier conditions) contributed to the Lahaina fires
- pollution / no plan B for Hawaii water with a focus on the Navy contaminating the water source
Wave pools and golf courses should only be allowed to use reclaimed sewage treatment plant water and they should also be located downstream of sewage treatment plants.
Trees bring water, plant more trees
Can't . . . hotels, golf courses and military bases are more important.
Trees need water to grow
My heart weeps for all of you😢
What did she do to prevent the wildfire in Lahaina? 3:58
We all need to rethink how we treat nature, because if it goes, we go. Too many people treat natural resources like they will be there no matter what. Nope! Water is life. Sadly, we have the legacy of those in the past that led to abuse & misuse of aquafers, rivers & the land. Way too many people won't change their ways. Now we are feeling the effects.
It's overreach. There are too many straws in the glass. The dirty secret is that most local economies are totally dependent on continued growth and that runs counter to sustainability.
Awesome Reporting
The wave pool in Hawaii is really insane! Really in sane!
Last Summer where I live we had a water restriction advisory in place for the first time in history and smoke filled summers are the new normal. May god help us all.
Pray for Hawaii
What are pray gonna do
How sad!
The water problem is not new. We lived in Maui for 25 years - after we first moved there my husband called me at work one day sick, scared he was so sick. I immediately left work and took him to the emergency room. It turned out to be the water. The doctor said, locals are used to it - you're new here so it hit you especially hard. Just shrugged it off as the way it is.
Water depletion - too many people!
1880 40k approx inhabitants Hawaii
1960 500k
2020 1.400k
yup😞
I didn’t know about that huge wave pool.
That is ridiculously stupid.
Drive a few miles and surf in the ocean!!!
Geez! 🙄😠
My job just brought in several people from Hawaii, and all of them have said that north Missouri is an infinitely better place to live than Hawaii.
Environmental catastrophe the world over is unfolding before our eyes and yet too many are still putting on blindfolds... in the coming years, there will be a real nightmare, chaos will increase and the way people live today will not be the way we endure tomorrow...
They claim that Lahaina ran out of water but yet the underground parking lot at 404 Front Street was flooded with water during the fire. How the heck did that happen? Why was that water unavailable for use during the fire?
Military Times. 6/21/23. “More families file claims against Navy for Hawaii water contamination”
So that would explain the water being on fire and the severe ignition of everything. Jet fuel in the water. I never heard about this, and now it all makes sense.
Interesting
So sad. ✨
I'm sorry that this is happening but it's like closing the door after the horse is gone.
Praise God for this Communication.
It finally came last week when it rains heavily non stop for 24 hours. This month of May it rains more than any other years. The rain will come. It's just not when you expect it and not the amount you normally expect.
You ever twist a water bottle with that cap on that has a few sips left? You increase PSI, and when you release the pressure you get vapor. It isn’t hard making rain or vapor intended for distillation when wind turbines are used to pump air into containers filled with seawater and then releasing that pressure via a timed mechanism.
You technically will make rain clouds somewhere lol, no clue where it will fall though. However water vapor is a greenhouse gas contributor
Hypothetically with enough of those kinds of windmills you can even create enough cloud coverage all around the globe to start another Ice Age, or make the world as humid and tropical as the cretaceous.
It’s purely mechanical and very little electrical power is needed, and I suggest building them around the Arctic and Antarctic sea only. This locks sea ice, lowers sea level, creates more atmospheric rivers in unpopulated areas that in turn help marine life and is beneficial to all species. In the summer months they are shut off.
Autumn would be the only time to operate them. Both the northern and southern hemispheres have opposite seasons so they can even be relocated to utilize them more efficiently
So sad!!! Oh no this is crazy, 😞
That is really sad. Hope there are options like solar powered deslination plants to at least help a bit with drinking water at least.
This is sad, just sad, no excuses for this.
It will get worse, sadly. Free Hawaii!
I never understood how any country could allow nuclear power when the toxic waste is deadly for 100,000 years and they still do not know ow how to store it safely. I love Hawaii and it makes me sad to see the Navy poisoning Oahu’s water.
Crazy how an island surrounded by an ocean is running out of water.
Absolutely unforgivable. The military needs to fix it. Immediately!!! If the water goes, there's nothing to protect!
Can we build desalination plants to remove the salt from sea water.?
Yachts and ships do it.
They make a lot of clean water daily.
It would also create jobs.
Hawaii should start collecting higher landing fees and should also start levying visitor fees. If the federal government is not interested in paying up then Hawaii must be proactive and seize the initiative by instituting these fees. Use the money to get rid of these facilities and restore your resources. Countries and cities in Europe are charging fees to visitors. Venice is an example. Remember, Hawaiians first. You are not lap dogs.
Good luck 🧚♂️🍀
Is there a way to get water from Oregon or Alaska?
No Need, you can desalinate Sea Water
Very sad, my dream was to visit someday, but by the time I can not sure I would given the already burdened eco system.
That's how I feel about a lot of destinations and things I used to want to do.
Mt Everest is beyond me physically now, but it's so disgusting you couldn't pay me to take part in it.
There're still things I want to do, but my bucket list looks a lot different than it used to.
Can you get melt water from glaciers in Alaska and transport it to Hawaii?
It's the same ole thinking with the gov't "as long it's not in my backyard"
This is why Hawaiian people see the US military as an occupier because of this. If imperial politics left their island as a whole they would be safer as a people than with them there. America has to do better by Hawaii.
@@GNMi79 I'd have to be a sinophobe to accept that premise and that's beneath my politics. That said the US is an occupier domestically and abroad, the point to which we are seeing is making it more complex for the US to avoid conflict with nuclear powers. Just saying at some point when one is stretched too thin it starts to look irresponsible with no advantages to be gained.
Guarantee Dole has enough water for the Pineapple fields.
Sry - I almost forgot: Thank you - tough brave reporting.
It's a terrible situation. What can be done to assist those in Hawaii? How much rainfall does Hawaii receive? Can they begin to use water catchment systems on individual properties to assist with providing people with water. I don't know alot about them. But i do know when i watch stories about people living in tiny houses, many of them use water catchment systems if they are offgrid.
Oahu is very mountainous and most of the rainfall occurs where the clouds collide with the highest mountains. Only a small percentage of the population lives in these rainfall regions. This fresh water would have to be pumped out of the ground there, thru many miles of dense, mostly undisturbed forest to reach the population centers. It would be a huge expense causing damage to that fragile ecosystem. Oahu just has far too many people living in its dry regions.
The locals should get the water.
When it rains fill TANKS. Then you have drinking water. Does every house in Hawaii have 2 x 30000 litre tanks?
My little garden against the climate crisis 😢
NYC can donate water. Opposite effect here. The East is always wet now. Rains weekly
Imagine being completely surrounded by the ocean for all of existence and not having a way to make that water drinkable
Well there is a way but it's pretty expensive. You have to filter out the salt through a process that requires you to heat up the water so it separates from the salt then you must condense it after it has converted to water vapor then filter it. It's possible but it takes a good amount of money and energy to create the amount of water that is needed for the Island chain.
It’s Parris Island all over again.
Insane. Hawaii needs to pass laws about wasting water. No golf courses in the dry regions! No wave pools ONLY salt water pools. No long showers. Treat it like what it IS - a water crisis! Get the military OUT of there. Jet fuel? My god. Empty the tanks & clean it up.
Mother nature is in crisis ❤😢