I'm starting to suspect Travis's luck is comedy-based. Straight-laced half-orc with a tragic backstory? Three consecutive nat 1s at a carnival game. Spiteful carpenter gnome exacting revenge for (incorrectly) perceived gouging? The dice decide Travis is the DM now... _until he attempts a dramatic exit._
@@PetersaberHD So apparently carpenter tools and woodcarver tools are different. Woodcarver's is only 1 gold, so Travis paid 7 times the correct price bc Matt misunderstood what Travis wanted XD
Just my own opinion, I think Chetney has a Lawful Neutral alignment. He definitely does things that can be considered evil, like this instance, but its because he has his own code he follows, and he considers the merchant’s actions evil, and won’t abide by it.
@@anjelica948 He's chaotic neutral imo, I see a lot of Grog in him. I'd view this instance as evil but several of Chet's actions dissuade me from it and make me think it was closer to neutral than evil. He genuinely believes he was swindled and wants (in his mind) the merchant to stop scamming other people, not just himself. He didn't take her money or stuff (IIRC) and despite having attacked her, made sure she'd survive by cauterizing her wound with his rite (that costs him his own blood) and giving away a healer's kit that's worth 5 gp.
@@Jason-kp4vc Fair point. I can see now why a lot of people hate the idea of alignment, bc any one situation can be interpreted a lot of different ways.
@@anjelica948Alignment is a general disposition. Even a good person is capable of evil acts. In some sense this is more in the vein of Chetney throwing a temper tantrum. Many things in TTRPGs are this broad and that doesn't encapsulate a character well. The various backgrounds in 5E are just as bad. They're mere potential starting points, especially for beginners, to allow you to get into character. The problem of alignments (though you are right that different people view them differently) is they can become the source of ethical arguments, create stereotypical flat characters or even played so stupidly over the top that your character becomes a caricature. But they are just tools. They aren't the end all be all and their flaws allow them to be misused same as any. I say this in defense of alignment because they aren't the source of the bad. You just have to realize the limitations of any tool, mechanical or otherwise, that you employ.
Travis thinks he got ripped off, but according to DnD beyond a set of Carpenters tools actually does cost 8 gold. He got a deal, and thinks he got ripped off because the economy in dungeons & dragons is so weird. Carpenters tools apparently cost 8 years of a farmers salary
I mean, proper quality tools are expensive IRL too. Maybe not 'eight years worth of wages' but certainly into the thousands of dollars depending on what profession you need tools to engage in. You *can* buy cheap crap, but you'll have to buy it again and again. In a more medieval setting, tools for a tradeskill (carpentry, blacksmithing, etc.) would be considered to be family heirlooms. Passed down to your son when he takes over the business, etc.
I always assumed gold was maybe a month's worth of their salary, not a year's worth. Yeah, that's... it's insane, because you'd think there'd be more bandits and adventurers in the world to make up for that. Which would fuck the economy up a *lot* by proximity, because the line between the two is miniscule on a good day, and really boils down to 'ideology' which can also be broken down to 'mood', given how temperamental many people can be.
My Favorite door fumble will always be Vax, Scanland & Percy. All they had to do was pull the unlocked door rather than push it... Instead it all ended up with Percy falling out of a window.
This was so masterfully done that I’m both disgusted and very very appreciative of 1) the godlike rolls 2) the amazing acting 3) Matt’s ability to improvise a story on the spot. Masterclass!
Dude. I have watched this a several times but I'm still laughing at that last dice roll to make Chetney's grand exit only to fail. Instead, he slammed on the door and made a dog whine sound 😂😂😂 its just perfect 😂
Im kinda hoping that they return to the city sometime and they hear rumors that there’s been werewolf sightings in the town since bells hells left, after all when it comes to a werewolf all it takes is a scratch or a bite…
could be that there is not consequences, or maybe this will be important at the least expected moment. like when grog was confronted by the guards in vaselheim about the incident with tary, poetic justice that scanlan was the one having to answer for it too. all in all, since this is a game, whatever ends up happening im sure will be equally hilarious
@@arthaiserI think you may have missed the sarcasm here. Or maybe the comment instantly failed to age well since the timing is pretty close. A bounty hunter was sent after him and caught up with him in Yios. I actually thought it was going to be so much worse since I thought said BH was actually with the Claret Order when it happened.
I can't wait till this moment gets animated. Then have a comp of all three campaigns and all of the in animate objects that have defeated them over the years in animated form.
I remember coming to this scene for the first time and it took me by surprise. I thought he was kidding when he made a note of the shop keeper but no! He fucking sent it!
Ehh, it plays into the comedy. Only time ive ever had an issue with rerolling was when the rerolled using divine intervention for cad. I mean that shit was a nat 1. Shouldve been an auto fail
And once again…whispers of invulnerable doors spread throughout the land and the legend is reborn anew as a DOOR stifles a member of Bells Hells. The legacy of these common inanimate objects baffles intrepid adventurers to this day…good luck to you all and may the gods never put a Lava Door in front of your path!
I feel like there are entirely too few comments about the way this man says “I will. Crreep” 😂😂😂 Idk why; but that first sentence really just sets the stage.
5:52 Travis' shrug makes it clear that he didn't care if an NPC died. This will be Matt's last warning. And I was suspecting just before he cauterized the wound after an epiphany, when he brought out the fire that he would go full Roy Mustang and incinerate her.
Not really. From murder hobo horror stories I heard, this was super tame. He didn't actively try to rip her to shreds and kill her. He simply wanted to scare and badly wound her. Once he realized how badly he had hurt her, he stopped her from bleeding to death and even left her a healing item. A true murder hobo would have brutally killed her without remorse and probably killed a few of the ones coming to investigate the commotion.
would love for this to bite him in the bum later in the campaign somehow a fellow merchant friend of heres recognizes chet then refuses to let the party buy anything or calls the magical cops on them
thatd be funny but theyd only have the fact he's a werewolf to go off of, the shopkeep never actually saw him until he shifted and itd just have to be an assumption by correlation of him also beig a werewolf
@@Fyre19 One, the shopkeeper had fairly limited interaction with Chetney, so she likely didn’t even put two and two together concerning Chetney's voice, which he probably distorted anyways, two, he showed up a few days later at night, and never showed his face to her at any point, only his werewolf form, three, even magical cops need a lot more to go off of than a voice description and werewolf puns. If you come to the police and give them those two possible leads, you’d be dismissed outright and wouldn’t be taken seriously at all. They’d do some minor investigation, probably have the local Merchant's Guild representative issue a general mandate to have security in their places of business to avoid such an incident occurring in the future, however it’s highly unlikely they’d discover who the culprit was. Police work, especially detective work, is a pretty lengthy process which can take weeks for certain cases, or even months if it’s a particularly large case. At most, this incident would warrant maybe three to four days of investigation before the case is put on a shelf and forgotten about.
Can anyone help me find the clip of chetney plotting to pay a visit to the shop I was trying to find it but i can't, the team are goin to the telescope and he tries to stay behind to take a look out on the town
In perfect darkness, everything is still in grayscale and gives -5 to passive perception or disadvantage to active checks. Chet's nat 20, with +8, was more than enough to stay hidden
@@mattyule5312 it wasn't perfect darkness though. There was dim light. I don't know if that really changes anything. A nat 20 +8 is a very high roll regardless. A merchant's passive perception is likely not that high.
I say justified. She charged him about $3000 usd for a chisle... and well he paid for it. .. 3000 fucking dollars. She WAY overcharged. Based on gold price now per oz and what it's equivalent in D&D would be. 7.5g is a lot. 7.5s for a custom chisle is $300. 3s would be a fair price for a very very very nice chisle. (Around $125) but I'd charge 2s maybe
this isn't how fantasy currencies work. that does not at all equate. things used to also cost donkeys, and laves of bread. how many fantasy loaves of bread did she charge him?
@@declanmorden ...hmm idk if that's true. Let's say we take an average of gold worth. Per pound gold is worth $22,000. A 1 pound gold bar in D&D is worth 50gp. 22000 ÷ 50 is 440 so each gp is worth 440. So a loaf of bread in D&D is worth $4.40 which isn't outrageous and a beer $8-$9 which at a local bar for a large beer is probably good too. Gp needs an overhaul in my opinion. He spent $3300 on 1 chisle. Even at $100 a gp he spent $750 on it... that's a lot.
@@Liecham you are using the real world modern value of gold which is the issue. Gold is simply less valuable in D&D than it is in the modern day real world. Even then though it’s not an exact estimate and is just the closest approximation there is.
I'm starting to suspect Travis's luck is comedy-based.
Straight-laced half-orc with a tragic backstory? Three consecutive nat 1s at a carnival game.
Spiteful carpenter gnome exacting revenge for (incorrectly) perceived gouging? The dice decide Travis is the DM now... _until he attempts a dramatic exit._
Incorrectly!? That woman tried to make him pay 10 gold, for woodcarving tools... 10!!
Even the 7 or whatever he ended up paying for it was too much
@@MrSpannners lmao that was my thoughts too. Woodcarver's set is only supposed to be 1g. Price gouging to the max
@@MrSpannners he bought a carpenter set for 7.5 gold, it normally costs 8.
As always with CR, doors are the true enemy.
@@PetersaberHD So apparently carpenter tools and woodcarver tools are different. Woodcarver's is only 1 gold, so Travis paid 7 times the correct price bc Matt misunderstood what Travis wanted XD
This is how a character pulls off evil alignment without the audience not liking the character
Just my own opinion, I think Chetney has a Lawful Neutral alignment. He definitely does things that can be considered evil, like this instance, but its because he has his own code he follows, and he considers the merchant’s actions evil, and won’t abide by it.
@@anjelica948 He's chaotic neutral imo, I see a lot of Grog in him. I'd view this instance as evil but several of Chet's actions dissuade me from it and make me think it was closer to neutral than evil. He genuinely believes he was swindled and wants (in his mind) the merchant to stop scamming other people, not just himself. He didn't take her money or stuff (IIRC) and despite having attacked her, made sure she'd survive by cauterizing her wound with his rite (that costs him his own blood) and giving away a healer's kit that's worth 5 gp.
@@Jason-kp4vc Fair point. I can see now why a lot of people hate the idea of alignment, bc any one situation can be interpreted a lot of different ways.
I’ll add my own, I’d say neutral neutral. Because there are laws and personal codes he does abide by
@@anjelica948Alignment is a general disposition. Even a good person is capable of evil acts.
In some sense this is more in the vein of Chetney throwing a temper tantrum.
Many things in TTRPGs are this broad and that doesn't encapsulate a character well.
The various backgrounds in 5E are just as bad. They're mere potential starting points, especially for beginners, to allow you to get into character.
The problem of alignments (though you are right that different people view them differently) is they can become the source of ethical arguments, create stereotypical flat characters or even played so stupidly over the top that your character becomes a caricature.
But they are just tools. They aren't the end all be all and their flaws allow them to be misused same as any.
I say this in defense of alignment because they aren't the source of the bad. You just have to realize the limitations of any tool, mechanical or otherwise, that you employ.
Imma say it, this is Karma paying Travis back for all the shopping scenes he's had to sit through. 🤣🤣🤣
C1e27
I want to talk to the manager !
Until the curse of the doors strikes again.
Lmao Matt's "She's a merchant." to Travis is the same as his "It's a baby." to Sam
Travis thinks he got ripped off, but according to DnD beyond a set of Carpenters tools actually does cost 8 gold. He got a deal, and thinks he got ripped off because the economy in dungeons & dragons is so weird. Carpenters tools apparently cost 8 years of a farmers salary
Then dnd beyond is a ripoff too 🤣
I mean, proper quality tools are expensive IRL too. Maybe not 'eight years worth of wages' but certainly into the thousands of dollars depending on what profession you need tools to engage in. You *can* buy cheap crap, but you'll have to buy it again and again.
In a more medieval setting, tools for a tradeskill (carpentry, blacksmithing, etc.) would be considered to be family heirlooms. Passed down to your son when he takes over the business, etc.
I always assumed gold was maybe a month's worth of their salary, not a year's worth. Yeah, that's... it's insane, because you'd think there'd be more bandits and adventurers in the world to make up for that. Which would fuck the economy up a *lot* by proximity, because the line between the two is miniscule on a good day, and really boils down to 'ideology' which can also be broken down to 'mood', given how temperamental many people can be.
Inflations a bitch.
@@deleteman900 buy once, cry once.
take a shot every time Matt says "She's a merchant"
for a free ambulance ride?
@@kimmyyy1164 it’s never free
@@moruleka2644 Unless you're in Europe.
@@CCgivemeawedgy not all europe
@@Resegy still cheaper than all of USA
Doors Vs Critical Roll and the doors keep winning.
My Favorite door fumble will always be Vax, Scanland & Percy.
All they had to do was pull the unlocked door rather than push it... Instead it all ended up with Percy falling out of a window.
@@zyhurbeelzebub6213The door was a thing of evil
2:30 even Matt himself was stunned by the noises Travis is making. That's insane
Every time he says "....she is a merchant."
Only makes it funnier
"let this be a warning charge fairly for your wares, or I'll slash your prices for you!"
ITS ALWAYS THE FUCKING DOORS WITH THESE PEOPLE XD
Just remember, in vox machina, Scanlan turns into a mofuggin triceratops and still failed to bust down a door!
Doors are the real BBEGs of the campaigns
This was so masterfully done that I’m both disgusted and very very appreciative of 1) the godlike rolls 2) the amazing acting 3) Matt’s ability to improvise a story on the spot. Masterclass!
i just LOVE how he charges the door and smacks right into it instead :"D travis is so great
Well, we all know how well Critical Roll deals with doors... if any previous campaigns are anything to go by
though I was hoping the response would be 'You're supposed to pull'
Dude. I have watched this a several times but I'm still laughing at that last dice roll to make Chetney's grand exit only to fail. Instead, he slammed on the door and made a dog whine sound 😂😂😂 its just perfect 😂
This is not a door. It’s a thing of evil.
This feels like a horror movie and I absolutely love it.
horror comedy, i need to see this animated lmfao
This whole crew belongs in a horror movie
HE IS A WARE WOLF OMFG THATS SUCH GOOD WORDPLAY
I love how everything goes well except for rushin out the door
Chetney isn’t mad over believing that he got ripped off. *He’s mad because he had to shop.*
Im kinda hoping that they return to the city sometime and they hear rumors that there’s been werewolf sightings in the town since bells hells left, after all when it comes to a werewolf all it takes is a scratch or a bite…
Usually (at least in dnd) lycanthropy is only spread through a bite, like rabies
D&D werewolves only pass their condition with a bite and only if the victim fails a saving throw.
@@TheRedHorseman1208 5e they changed it for all lycanthropes to be either bite or scratch
Who knows it's not like they do things 100% by the book guys .. why speculate or debate about such lil things
he’s a blood hunter and if lore is to be followed spreading the curse is very taboo
This scene creates such a good possibility for character development. Well played Travis!
The "Whole Foods" part and the ending got me 😂
Beware the Beast of Fair Wares!
Wareswolf
Ironically the price of Carpenters Tools is 8 gold. He paid 7. He got a good deal.
The wares prices were actually fair lol
After the person falls: Moves in and stares into their fear driven eyes and says "What's a matter? Life's flashing before your eyes?"
Ah...Yes. Death is not a fan of Cats.
I swear I’ve said this a million times but when this campaign gets animated I’m not sure if they can cut out moments like this.
especially not after episode 65
this is why im watching campaign 1 of vox machina for this reason its like reading a book after seeing the movie.
That 'I love a chase' is so fucking amazing
That door must have been mahogany
This is just Chet's version of Jester painting the Platinum Dragon in the Zadash.
I love how well Matt brings stuff like this to life
Yep, this never came back to hurt him. no consequences for his action at all. Matt playing the long game.
could be that there is not consequences, or maybe this will be important at the least expected moment. like when grog was confronted by the guards in vaselheim about the incident with tary, poetic justice that scanlan was the one having to answer for it too.
all in all, since this is a game, whatever ends up happening im sure will be equally hilarious
@@arthaiserI think you may have missed the sarcasm here.
Or maybe the comment instantly failed to age well since the timing is pretty close.
A bounty hunter was sent after him and caught up with him in Yios. I actually thought it was going to be so much worse since I thought said BH was actually with the Claret Order when it happened.
The whole cauterizing the wound as a wolf with flames reminded me of death from puss and boots
Travis finally gets to be a werewolf and I’m happy for him haha
It’s been 3 campaigns and doors are still their greatest enemy
I can't wait till this moment gets animated. Then have a comp of all three campaigns and all of the in animate objects that have defeated them over the years in animated form.
I remember coming to this scene for the first time and it took me by surprise. I thought he was kidding when he made a note of the shop keeper but no! He fucking sent it!
the look on lauras face in this hearing travis growling hahahahah.
"Do you have a key?"
Man... Werewolves that don't understand how pricing works are super fun and dangerous!
8:26 Gotta love doors in Critical Role.
Curse you, doors!
Omg
He’s a Wares wolf
Get out.
Apparently that gnome is Batman
Perfect exit.
Doors the eternety nemesis from Critical Role, it starts with Vox Mochina and it will be forever
One day this scene will be in an animated series, and I'll be there to watch it. :)
Leave it to Laura to jynx him at the end hehe
Sad part is, he should have been rolling at advantage for those Strength Checks.
Ehh, it plays into the comedy. Only time ive ever had an issue with rerolling was when the rerolled using divine intervention for cad. I mean that shit was a nat 1. Shouldve been an auto fail
And once again…whispers of invulnerable doors spread throughout the land and the legend is reborn anew as a DOOR stifles a member of Bells Hells. The legacy of these common inanimate objects baffles intrepid adventurers to this day…good luck to you all and may the gods never put a Lava Door in front of your path!
I feel like there are entirely too few comments about the way this man says “I will. Crreep” 😂😂😂
Idk why; but that first sentence really just sets the stage.
The real scam is the 20’s he wasted
Scary Chet boi
"Tonight the Pock O'Pea family settles its accounts."
5:52 Travis' shrug makes it clear that he didn't care if an NPC died. This will be Matt's last warning. And I was suspecting just before he cauterized the wound after an epiphany, when he brought out the fire that he would go full Roy Mustang and incinerate her.
Travis becomes the horror movie
The most murder hobo thing
I mean technically he didn’t murder her.
Not really. From murder hobo horror stories I heard, this was super tame. He didn't actively try to rip her to shreds and kill her. He simply wanted to scare and badly wound her. Once he realized how badly he had hurt her, he stopped her from bleeding to death and even left her a healing item. A true murder hobo would have brutally killed her without remorse and probably killed a few of the ones coming to investigate the commotion.
Oh my FUCK! That's hilarious!
Completely unrelated… but Marisha looked AMAZING this episode
flash forward 40 eps she puts a bounty on him lol
The door strikes again hahaha
Isn't this right after the Museum and he got a little bitty?? What if he needs to release "the wolf" when he gets a certain number of stress points.
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Door curse Classic Critical Role🤣🤣
Omg I totally didn’t realize who he did this to lmao !
I don't even remember why he did that
A shop keep overcharged him for his woodcarving tools I believe.
Chisel overcharge ,good job he didnt buy full tool set !!
Over charging for chisels 7 gold 5 silver sets worth at least 4 or 5 and starting asking price was 10 😂😂😂
@@sadknight2826 and recently he bought something that did not work..a horn if i remember correctly. Can't wait to see his response.
@@bobloerakker7010 The horn did work
Critical role and there doors!
would love for this to bite him in the bum later in the campaign somehow a fellow merchant friend of heres recognizes chet then refuses to let the party buy anything or calls the magical cops on them
Lol that would be awesome I kind of hope it happens now.
thatd be funny but theyd only have the fact he's a werewolf to go off of, the shopkeep never actually saw him until he shifted and itd just have to be an assumption by correlation of him also beig a werewolf
@@JubioHDX And that would be enough there gonna be dropping wolf puns ever day and also they know his voice
@@Fyre19 One, the shopkeeper had fairly limited interaction with Chetney, so she likely didn’t even put two and two together concerning Chetney's voice, which he probably distorted anyways, two, he showed up a few days later at night, and never showed his face to her at any point, only his werewolf form, three, even magical cops need a lot more to go off of than a voice description and werewolf puns. If you come to the police and give them those two possible leads, you’d be dismissed outright and wouldn’t be taken seriously at all.
They’d do some minor investigation, probably have the local Merchant's Guild representative issue a general mandate to have security in their places of business to avoid such an incident occurring in the future, however it’s highly unlikely they’d discover who the culprit was. Police work, especially detective work, is a pretty lengthy process which can take weeks for certain cases, or even months if it’s a particularly large case. At most, this incident would warrant maybe three to four days of investigation before the case is put on a shelf and forgotten about.
@@decimation9780 Magic Police can do anything
wait if he scratched the merchant doesnt that mean shes now a werewolf
Villain campaign?
And some time later...
The doors are back
What the hell did I miss with foxy grandpa
Foxy Grandpa (Bertrand) Died, this is Chutney Pockapee, an Elderly Gnome with Lycanthropy and a love of woodworking.
Uummm, by foxy grandpa they were obviously still talking about Chetney
What episode is this in campaign three
Ep23
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Can anyone help me find the clip of chetney plotting to pay a visit to the shop I was trying to find it but i can't, the team are goin to the telescope and he tries to stay behind to take a look out on the town
❤❤❤❤😂
This was a year ago.........
wouldn't the darkness not be a factor? Elves have darkvision.
In perfect darkness, everything is still in grayscale and gives -5 to passive perception or disadvantage to active checks. Chet's nat 20, with +8, was more than enough to stay hidden
@@mattyule5312 it wasn't perfect darkness though. There was dim light. I don't know if that really changes anything. A nat 20 +8 is a very high roll regardless. A merchant's passive perception is likely not that high.
I say justified. She charged him about $3000 usd for a chisle... and well he paid for it. .. 3000 fucking dollars. She WAY overcharged. Based on gold price now per oz and what it's equivalent in D&D would be. 7.5g is a lot. 7.5s for a custom chisle is $300. 3s would be a fair price for a very very very nice chisle. (Around $125) but I'd charge 2s maybe
this isn't how fantasy currencies work. that does not at all equate. things used to also cost donkeys, and laves of bread. how many fantasy loaves of bread did she charge him?
@@thedarkness125 750
a d&d gold piece is around the same as $100 USD if you had to compare it to real world money today
@@declanmorden ...hmm idk if that's true. Let's say we take an average of gold worth. Per pound gold is worth $22,000. A 1 pound gold bar in D&D is worth 50gp. 22000 ÷ 50 is 440 so each gp is worth 440. So a loaf of bread in D&D is worth $4.40 which isn't outrageous and a beer $8-$9 which at a local bar for a large beer is probably good too. Gp needs an overhaul in my opinion. He spent $3300 on 1 chisle. Even at $100 a gp he spent $750 on it... that's a lot.
@@Liecham you are using the real world modern value of gold which is the issue. Gold is simply less valuable in D&D than it is in the modern day real world. Even then though it’s not an exact estimate and is just the closest approximation there is.