We do the update every Saturday, at 14:00 CEST live on stream. This is the first time I share this with RUclips as it is usually Twitch-exclusively for the past 2 years before each season/expansion. I hope you enjoy it and I am open to listen to feedback. This is the first update, there will be a few more before the expansion comes out.
@@peettko tbh I am leaning towards choosing based of healer this time round, and shaman having 2 good dps specs makes it a good choice. Only thing I don't like about ele is having to place earth quake. Just let me put it on my target
@@Gelinad no kidding! Awesome. I honestly haven't played Ele since wotlk and have fond memories of the spec. Placing earthquake always felt so clunky. The only gotcha will be survivability, but I managed with survival hunter which was super squishy
www.twitch.tv/videos/2202461567 . I do this live on stream every Saturday, VODs are usually locked, but if you have any more specific question about either of the classes, I am happy to answer it here or on Discord
and then You realize... A single AUG Evoker or Frost DK or Ele Sham or Fury War or Aff Lock or Unholy DK or Survival Hunter and even an Enhance Sham CAN Outdps Two Outlaw Rogues.
I had no Idea where I heard your name, because ive never watched a video of yours. I just remembered that you were the shaman main I played some random high keys together :D
I would argue that balance druid is quite harder than its rated. Its simple to play vs a dummy but it needs to sit there and cast a ton compared to other casters aside destro plus you need to know the dungeons rly well to shift into bear when its needed, or you die.
If you make a dot build boomy is fun and easy. Get away from moon build and just go ham super bursty and consistent damage. My buddy made a build that pumps.
@@joevaughn1416 eh? Im not even playing moons. Theres no dot build, there r 2 talents to choose from, one aoe and one st, they dont affect gameplay almost at all aside passive dmg. Most dmg comes from starfire in elunes tree and thats a long cast time. Im happy for your friend but the raid results show which specs do good dmg and which dont.
APM needs to be included for how easy a class is to play as a seperate category. Low button rotation + High APM doesnt = easy if it opens you up to possible rotation mistakes because you need to monitor more taking attention off mechanics and possible interrupts.
+ Typically caster dps is easier even with higher rotations /low APM allowing you time to move and re assessing buffs and proc's to watch as you are often out of melee physical damage from mobs.
The enhancer u asked should play dif DDs. imo it's sooo enjoyable to don't be so cooldown dependent. I main enhancer since ever (started in wotlk) and till now, I have to say, it's a well rounded specc. S4 I played alot of unholy, S3 fire mage... And I have to say... I HATE the CD-downtimes. On enhancer I don't feel that way... So yes, imo is enhancer ATLEAST 4 - 4.5. It's not perfect, but really well throughout.
probably because they figured funness shouldnt influence the overall score with the same weight as dps? but the numbers are bogus anyways, you should look at them individually if you are curious about certain classes and make your judgment
arms is just tragic. infinite design potential yet its just boring 2 button rotation in all content and casino crits. mortal strike either hits for 5 mil or 2 mil cause u have 50 crit dmg modifiers
I think the problem with these comparisons that we only see indivdual spec-s but always the meta is mutiple spec combine. Like mage is good in DF but without evoker dmg isn't there without pi isn't there. So mage only meta cause priest and evoker meta without those mage is as bad as other classes. So whould be ideal to make these compersaiont by comps not by specs alone.
@@psmoretti Enhance is absolutely cracked, with a better damage profile especially in mass aoe where they used to struggle, to a great St. Better defensiveness and also better utility+ raid buff
judging that god comp will probably will be the same again, might aff take the spot of SP, and as it seems it will be a heavy ranged season, the Ranks arent acurate, all melee should start 2-3 ranks at least below most ranged
In a ranking choice, someone has to be the last. Currently, Fury and Arms have the least utility compared to the rest of the DPS specs. Those are the facts.
We do the update every Saturday, at 14:00 CEST live on stream. This is the first time I share this with RUclips as it is usually Twitch-exclusively for the past 2 years before each season/expansion. I hope you enjoy it and I am open to listen to feedback. This is the first update, there will be a few more before the expansion comes out.
I have been choosing a main the way since the start of bfa
It's time, come play ELe
@@peettko tbh I am leaning towards choosing based of healer this time round, and shaman having 2 good dps specs makes it a good choice. Only thing I don't like about ele is having to place earth quake. Just let me put it on my target
@@AD690smcr I think that it got reworked that you can pick the choice note to put it onto the target
@@AD690smcr that is something you can do after the rework, that will drop with the prepatch on Wednesday (CET).
@@Gelinad no kidding! Awesome. I honestly haven't played Ele since wotlk and have fond memories of the spec. Placing earthquake always felt so clunky.
The only gotcha will be survivability, but I managed with survival hunter which was super squishy
if you could put the twitch vod link into the description - much appreciated. Great content thank you!!
www.twitch.tv/videos/2202461567 . I do this live on stream every Saturday, VODs are usually locked, but if you have any more specific question about either of the classes, I am happy to answer it here or on Discord
I'd be interested to see a funnel damage column considering it's important to have for higher keys
Noted.
Great content, thanks.
Maybe add a column for "addon requirements" cuz some classes seem to require addons and UI changes more than others.
and then You realize...
A single AUG Evoker or Frost DK or Ele Sham or Fury War or Aff Lock or Unholy DK or Survival Hunter and even an Enhance Sham CAN Outdps Two Outlaw Rogues.
So sad for boomkin...
Naw boomy been good the last few pacs time to park them for other classes
I had no Idea where I heard your name, because ive never watched a video of yours.
I just remembered that you were the shaman main I played some random high keys together :D
Don't even know why I'm watching when I'm just gonna continue to play warlock as I always have. Good video though dude
I would argue that balance druid is quite harder than its rated. Its simple to play vs a dummy but it needs to sit there and cast a ton compared to other casters aside destro plus you need to know the dungeons rly well to shift into bear when its needed, or you die.
If you make a dot build boomy is fun and easy. Get away from moon build and just go ham super bursty and consistent damage. My buddy made a build that pumps.
@@joevaughn1416 eh? Im not even playing moons.
Theres no dot build, there r 2 talents to choose from, one aoe and one st, they dont affect gameplay almost at all aside passive dmg.
Most dmg comes from starfire in elunes tree and thats a long cast time.
Im happy for your friend but the raid results show which specs do good dmg and which dont.
APM needs to be included for how easy a class is to play as a seperate category. Low button rotation + High APM doesnt = easy if it opens you up to possible rotation mistakes because you need to monitor more taking attention off mechanics and possible interrupts.
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Typically caster dps is easier even with higher rotations /low APM allowing you time to move and re assessing buffs and proc's to watch as you are often out of melee physical damage from mobs.
The enhancer u asked should play dif DDs.
imo it's sooo enjoyable to don't be so cooldown dependent.
I main enhancer since ever (started in wotlk)
and till now, I have to say, it's a well rounded specc.
S4 I played alot of unholy, S3 fire mage...
And I have to say... I HATE the CD-downtimes.
On enhancer I don't feel that way...
So yes, imo is enhancer ATLEAST 4 - 4.5.
It's not perfect, but really
well throughout.
For consistency, why not keep all marks either 5/5 or 10/10 , makes it more clear
probably because they figured funness shouldnt influence the overall score with the same weight as dps? but the numbers are bogus anyways, you should look at them individually if you are curious about certain classes and make your judgment
DPS has more value in determining the strength of the class than Fun/utility and how easy/hard they are. Hence why DPS is 1-10 , and the rest is 1-5.
I don’t think that this chart is completely accurate considering recent updates in the beta.
@@matthewmyers8101 this has been updated with the most recent changes. It is my opinion so it's totally ok to have a different one.
arms is just tragic. infinite design potential yet its just boring 2 button rotation in all content and casino crits. mortal strike either hits for 5 mil or 2 mil cause u have 50 crit dmg modifiers
I think the problem with these comparisons that we only see indivdual spec-s but always the meta is mutiple spec combine. Like mage is good in DF but without evoker dmg isn't there without pi isn't there. So mage only meta cause priest and evoker meta without those mage is as bad as other classes. So whould be ideal to make these compersaiont by comps not by specs alone.
ele sham will be Fotm until people realize his defensive kit is trash
Shield totem IS bullshit
Facts cuz blizzard doesn’t buff the defense on shaman there scared every one will reroll one class lol 😂it did happen with ret not no more
Fotm players would need to use defensives to begin with lol
as DD u Save def Skills for Next xpac and blame the healer 😂
Wich key level you do to say that? I'm doing 15 and dying once or twice per run, so...Am I talking to a 0,1% player to say that you just said?
delete aug
Something on Enhancement? I see their bunbers changed a lot but were nor mentioned
@@psmoretti Enhance is absolutely cracked, with a better damage profile especially in mass aoe where they used to struggle, to a great St. Better defensiveness and also better utility+ raid buff
I love dk dk the best class I can close 5/11 mythic sylvanas raid. Dk it’s cool boi ❤❤🎉
judging that god comp will probably will be the same again, might aff take the spot of SP, and as it seems it will be a heavy ranged season, the Ranks arent acurate, all melee should start 2-3 ranks at least below most ranged
Don't underestimate melees, Frost DK, UHDK, enhance, fury warrior, they are all great pick up. Survival hunter troo
RIP to Warrior utility score lol 😩
Someone had to be the lowest :(
@@peettkoyou haven’t kept that mentality for any other scoring range
In a ranking choice, someone has to be the last. Currently, Fury and Arms have the least utility compared to the rest of the DPS specs. Those are the facts.
DH have not good st it's very dogshit