TWW - Choose Your Main - Mythic+ - Advanced Spreadsheet - Update #2

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 61

  • @peettko
    @peettko  Месяц назад +4

    This is a TL'DR of a 2h stream discussion. It is simply run by me + wow community so, personal project that people asked me to share. I will choose my alt based on that close to the expansion. Hope it helps people (IT IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION, ITS OK IF YOU HAVE DIFFERENT OPINION). We update it live on stream EVERY SATURDAY AT 14:00 CEST.

  • @panagiotistheodoropoulos6110
    @panagiotistheodoropoulos6110 Месяц назад +18

    i played shaman when it was in the dumpster, i will play shaman whatever situation its in

  • @igbCC
    @igbCC Месяц назад +3

    Glad to see Bulgarian WoW youtubers nowadays.
    Keep up the grind and thank you for the in-depth video

    • @senfglas214
      @senfglas214 Месяц назад

      Thought he was Spanish lmao mb

  • @dzinx0rrr
    @dzinx0rrr Месяц назад +12

    They put so many resources into reworking WW monk only to butcher him with a -8% nerfhammer right before expansion starts, so that nobody plays the class :)
    bravo blizzard

    • @icswack6015
      @icswack6015 Месяц назад +4

      Lets be honest there are 5 ppl in the world that still play ww monk and they will keep playing it after the nerf KEKW

    • @jayb1412
      @jayb1412 Месяц назад

      I'll be maining WW just like I do every season!

  • @MrJeremydb91
    @MrJeremydb91 Месяц назад +2

    Amazing, a RUclipsr who actually shares the data! Another one has been begged over and over and continues to ignore requests to share the spreadsheet. Thanks for this!

  • @Krulfar
    @Krulfar Месяц назад +3

    Just a suggestion: if you change the background color of each row to a very light version of the color of the class, it may make following the chart a lot easier.

  • @thepaintpeople
    @thepaintpeople Месяц назад +6

    I liked how you skipped Feral 💔

    • @peettko
      @peettko  Месяц назад +2

      I will write something about it, not my intention. Sorry!

    • @peettko
      @peettko  Месяц назад +4

      So to add on feral: The most recent changes (buffs) increases their overall output (both ST and AoE) by a big ton. Their performance now compared to last week has skyrocketed, while keeping their defensiveness (good) and utility (amazing) unchanged. Honestly, I am quite stocked for Feral myself and I might consider to alt it!

    • @peettko
      @peettko  Месяц назад +1

      There are some rotation flows but I won't go into specifics etc

    • @thepaintpeople
      @thepaintpeople Месяц назад +1

      @@peettko love it! Thanks Petko

  • @ENVERbih17
    @ENVERbih17 Месяц назад +1

    This is nice, lots of work, thank you. Do you have plans to do a pvp version of this?

  • @OrsoPolareYT
    @OrsoPolareYT Месяц назад +7

    after maining evocker for all dragonflight i can say i personally would put aug "FUN" factor to 0

    • @cobblebottom8421
      @cobblebottom8421 Месяц назад

      Reason I stopped playing mine it's boring and the reduced range blows

  • @Antrakt92
    @Antrakt92 Месяц назад +9

    As an MM hunter, I have the following cc:
    1. Single stun
    2. AOE stun
    3. AOE knockback (stun)
    4. AOE knock-up (stun)
    5. Single interrupt
    6. Freeze trap to interrupt non interruptible cast or just cc
    And following Defensives:
    1. -30% def (2 charges)
    2. Self-decurse poisons
    3. Invulnerability (turtle)
    4. +20% hp (pet ability)
    5. +30% hp self heal
    Tell me now how can marks for utility can be 2.5 and defensives 3?
    How come boomie with utility 4.5 and defensives 2.5 when he has literally less utility cc than hunter and his survivability is lowest strough all the classes overall??? You would say he has BR, but cmon I have engineering for that as well. Survivability of mm hunter is almost same as immortal Aug, except hunter doesn't have cheat death. And I didn't even mentioned misdirection to prevent aggro on bursts and Feign death if something gone wrong with aggro, letting hunter survive in high keys when others will be insta dead except if they play as night elf for Shadowmelt.
    Im strongly disagree with this spreadsheet

    • @whaddad90
      @whaddad90 Месяц назад +8

      Druid has mark of the wild. Enough said.

    • @jinio2128
      @jinio2128 Месяц назад +1

      well when you used all your def cds, druid can still go bear form all the time.

    • @icswack6015
      @icswack6015 Месяц назад

      MM is dog dont cry

    • @badderen92
      @badderen92 Месяц назад

      Can't wait to see him explain, IF he will =P

    • @Antrakt92
      @Antrakt92 Месяц назад

      @@whaddad90 and thats why in tww season one you would prefer max 1 druid in a group, and both heal and tank overpowered. There is no place for dps druid

  • @Jim-og9oc
    @Jim-og9oc Месяц назад +3

    Hi Petko
    Since this list and video is only about mythic+ i was thinking it is probably better to talk about specs with comp and dungeon needs in mind.
    Is aug so strong due to helping tanks and healers that it needs a mage? Then mage and aug are top tier and then we ask if priest to buff mage is stronger than ele.
    That's just an example i dont test beta and i dont know if its true.
    But you get the idea.
    Talking about any spec in its own in an environment where you pick comps that can deal with dungeon needs is irrelevant imo.

    • @TheNolltollerans
      @TheNolltollerans Месяц назад

      yeah why create a tier list with no intention to classify them according to the meta picks that will take place. Just as you mentions, if Aug is a granted pick (100%), which classes and specs will best create synergy with the Aug. This list is so un-focused.

    • @sketchyx8307
      @sketchyx8307 Месяц назад

      Aug will be in EVERY top group because they're even more valuable now with the tank nerfs. So just automatically assume they'll take up a slot

  • @diogocosta2701
    @diogocosta2701 Месяц назад +1

    Ele is good atm 😆 😆 i m so happy . Damn

  • @holyblad3
    @holyblad3 Месяц назад +1

    thank you

  • @Lusowrath
    @Lusowrath Месяц назад

    Theres no world where rogue is outdamaging mage in keys right now. Casualaddict as subtlety did the same damge as Riley did as frost (which is currently simming lower than arcane on every target count besides 2 and 3) WITH AN AUG. These were sperate runs. They both did 1.33 million overall in a 12 Mists with similar pull structure, both groups had shamans buffing them. Then factor in the utility/buffs and its not even close. Having rogue above mage specs is honestly laughable.

  • @ZahryD
    @ZahryD Месяц назад +4

    Look how they massacred my boy Destro.

  • @myrthevanbeest
    @myrthevanbeest Месяц назад +1

    I've been playing a shaman since BC, I would be dumb not to play it now

  • @ididitforloveforfun
    @ididitforloveforfun Месяц назад +1

    sub rogue finally

  • @Yoshkanizzle
    @Yoshkanizzle Месяц назад

    Why did you rank BM not with a 30 "easy to play points"? Or do i understand it wrong?

    • @peettko
      @peettko  Месяц назад +2

      5 is the max points for easy to play. It's between 1 and 5. 1 = VERY HARD // 5 = VERY EASY.

  • @arzos2603
    @arzos2603 Месяц назад +1

    Damn i wanted to play unholy 😅

  • @razpaqhvh7501
    @razpaqhvh7501 Месяц назад

    mountain thane fury is immortal. 8% dr perma and 2% phys dr on top of warpaint (passive) on top of on demand dstance and spell reflect. with endurance training (10% stamina increase) and impending victory nerf got reverted. enraged regen is still busted. it's mostly that slayer has nothing defensively

  • @hugob8193
    @hugob8193 Месяц назад +1

    How did Havoc ended up with a 1 in playstyle-fun? I know it's subjective but that seems a little harsh

    • @peettko
      @peettko  Месяц назад +2

      Rotation + TG + Tier-set + Hero Talents, all of them we decided to put it as 1.

  • @lance5817
    @lance5817 Месяц назад

    Nice

  • @wowcherub
    @wowcherub Месяц назад +3

    Ele sham 9.5 damage you're deluded

    • @arzos2603
      @arzos2603 Месяц назад +3

      Ikr? Should be a 10 class needs a hard nerf, hopefully next week

    • @neartzim4240
      @neartzim4240 Месяц назад

      isnt arcane mage doing more damage? or im wrong?

    • @icswack6015
      @icswack6015 Месяц назад

      ele shaman is broken you are deluded

    • @peettko
      @peettko  Месяц назад

      idk bro u are def not watching or playing beta if you are saying this lol, ele is busted rn

  • @kfactor99
    @kfactor99 Месяц назад

    frost mage harder to play than arcane mage. i'm out.

    • @Mikicore93
      @Mikicore93 Месяц назад

      Is it really that hard to read a spreadsheet correctly? Arcane is ranked harder to play than frost but i think arcane is ranked too easy with 3.5 myself.

  • @KreckyNo
    @KreckyNo Месяц назад

    not first :/

  • @sadza18
    @sadza18 Месяц назад

    when someone scores ELE and FrostDK and MM hunt on easy-to-play bracket the same (4 out of 5), you know its a shit comparisons :D ELE is like so complicated and so many buttons and triggers. Peace

    • @peettko
      @peettko  Месяц назад +1

      Current Ele Beta rotation is prob the easiest you will ever do. New build is just lava burst everywhere even in AoE.

    • @sharkus01
      @sharkus01 Месяц назад

      Have you played ele in the prepatch ?

    • @sadza18
      @sadza18 Месяц назад

      @@sharkus01 of course. Maining one

    • @KreckyNo
      @KreckyNo Месяц назад

      stop coping lil pup, easiest class of em all. get over it lil bro 💀

    • @sharkus01
      @sharkus01 Месяц назад

      @@sadza18 maybe you don't have much experience with other classes in this game. The rotation for Ele shaman is one of the most straightforward in the game.

  • @daabz9823
    @daabz9823 Месяц назад +1

    thank you