The funny thing about beam weapons of any kind is thst the lore states they are pre-charged. ECap mags, beam sabers, etc, could actually be used by Zaku 1s and 2s if Sunrise followed their own lore.
@@sir_coma60 Yarp, but like the lasgun from 40k, it really shouldn't have recoil of any kind, or so little it shouldn't be an issue. Buuuut, considering it's not RL, meh😂
@@sir_coma60 It just makes me wonder why Zeon didn't just hand out beam rifles and sabers to every MS they had given this fact. The Agguy, Z'Gok, and others had beam weapons earlier in the War, and were, in fact, not pre-charged, being powered by the MS's powerplant. The Agguy driven by two generators and the Z'Gok by a single, more powerful engine. Thank you to Sloth Cakes for the video. This is a subject in the Gundam franchise that's always made me scratch my head.
@@OasisTypeZaku Beam Weapons are not Laser, they are most likely Plasma that's squeezed into shape and fired. It's like holding a rocket backwards, it absolutely gives recoil.
@@OasisTypeZakuif i remember right it wasn’t till towards the end of the war that ecaps were widespread, so the beam energy came from the reactor as well as powering the mobile suit
Side note of the V2's Wings of Light. They're just byproducts from excessive energy from the Minovsky Drive System, so they're not really a weapon per se but Uso's smart enough to manipulate them as such. As for Internal Beam Sabers, I think the best option is having a Beam Weapon that can deploy one from the barrel, like the Hyaku-Shiki *and probably Delta Gundam* and Zeta Gundam did it. I would like to see one capable of doing both though. Like the Beam Rifle stores a Beam Saber and uses it as its 'e-caps' and the MS can remove it to use it as a BS.
beam bayonets are a cool idea that id like to see more of, being removeable is also a cool concept. I always loved how the zeta threw it to hit someone making the most expensive spear possible. theres also the Jutte the small parry beam sabers on the underside of the gp01s br odd thing that i always forget
@@slothcakes And considering how close MS fights can get, I'm surprised we don't see more of them being used. Speaking of the GP01, it's interesting how many timelines tackle the idea of increasing or decreasing beam lethality. UC has them done mostly via the cockpit controls, but AC's Epyon reuires a direct connection to the reactor.
a beam shot is like superman its as strong as the plot needs it to be, but in a serious note the gp01 tanking all those beam shots just shows how sturdy the damn thing was built
Infinite Justice Type Ii: *Am I a Joke to you?* Seriously two on the legs, four on the back, two handheld beam sabers that can be a saberstaff, AND a head blade Now that’s beam saber overkill
There's one called Hedgehog the variant of proto ZZ Gundam that has beam cannon double as beam sabers in it's entire body. Pretty fitting for it's name.
AGE has my fave MS designs. Combines rule of cool and convenience so well imo. More internal beams: Clanche arm blade (AGE), Caitsith's beam feet (GReco), Providence's bigass blade, GuAIZ claw, Gaia Gundam's wings, ASH claws (SEED & Destiny)
whatever someone thinks about AGE, the ms designs are just amazing I love the reptile look of the vagans there a flesh color scheme away from looking like a getter or mazinger monster
What about the Gaia Gundam and it’s kind of wings that have beam sabers on them that allow it to do slashing while on its transformation form or the pixy with its hip Beam dagger if your from Zeon and you never seen the pixy you could confuse it for not having any beam weapons on it so get close next thing you know it does a Robocop on you pull out beam daggers on you and stab you very quick and don’t have to go in the shoulders or nothing like that. Instead, you confused it for ammo like I did a long time ago when I was a beginner in gundam or what about the Gundam Astray red frame version of the shining finger does that count as a beam built-in weapon
Tis a shame that we never got any form of beam saber from IBO because I think they would have had much more power then Lets say Most U.c Beamsabers due to ahab reactors Being able to run consistantly for extremely long periods of time
Beam vulcans may be more useful in IBO as anti-air or simpler anti-infantry weapons on some MS. It would be a rather interesting paradigm flip, where the vulcans are the only beam weapons and everything else is physical weaponry.
Good points overall presented in this video overall but there is a need for all of this to use the proper terminology. The beam saber types you showed here are officially called integrated beam sabers. This makes alot more sense than calling them internal because they are integrated in the MS itself. However, I would like to also reuse this terminology to refer to beam sabers with how they are stored into external and internal; such as: RX-78-2 & GM as External storage types and the ones who hide them inside like the Kshatriya and Seravee as Internal storage types. This proper classification should help in separating more of those that are actually held by manipulators and actual integrated ones. So some examples of this new classification im proposing: >Manipulable types - the typical beam sabers that can be held by manipulators or similar devices like subarms, ie RX-78, GM Subtypes: -External Storage - Manipulable types that are stored attached to the MS and clearly visible from the outside, ie RX-78, Exia, or Aerial -Internal Storage - Manipulable types that are normally stored inside the MS, backpack, or a container, ie RX-79 Ground Type, Kshatriya, or Seravee >Integrated - beam sabers that are integrated into the MS itself or on a part of it, ie Aegis, GM Sniper Custom, and METEOR >Hybrid Manipulable-Integrated - beam sabers that are inbetween manipulable and integrated, ie Blitz (stored externally and used as-is), Qubeley (cannons while in arms, sabers inhand), and Zeta (cannons in waverider, sabers inhand, but the rifle and mega launcher can also be used as beam sabers, so the Zeta crosses alot of boundaries more than youd think) As for the final category, Im not sure what to call them yet, but the beam weapons that are hybrid of physical weapons like the swords on the Sword Striker, Sword Impulse, and Destiny do warrant their own subcategory under the Integrated classification.
In the case of the Sword Strike, Sword Impulse, and Destiny, their weapons are known as anti-ship swords, intended for obvious purposes. The beam blade is probably intended to generally increase the cutting power, but it also proves pretty useful against Phase Shift armor, which generally no-sells physical damage when active. Other MS in the Cosmic Era also seem to have such physical swords with beam blades, like the GOUF Ignited and the more recent Rud-ro.A and Cal-re.A, but they're probably not anti-ship swords.
What, no Stargazer's beam rings? Or Victory's beam rotors? Or Build Fighters Fenice's beam curtains or beam wheels (I know it's not "real" robot in universe but hey, G Gundam has beam ribbons or hula hoops or something, so same thing)
The Stargazer's beam cutters are just a side effect of the Voiture Lumiere system interacting with beam shots from other MS. Undeniably cool, of course, but not really internal weapons, since the Stargazer was designed for noncombat purposes and has no weapons by default.
The funny thing about beam weapons of any kind is thst the lore states they are pre-charged. ECap mags, beam sabers, etc, could actually be used by Zaku 1s and 2s if Sunrise followed their own lore.
Makes me want to see a zaku try to use a beam magnum and fucking shatter from the recoil 😂
@@sir_coma60 Yarp, but like the lasgun from 40k, it really shouldn't have recoil of any kind, or so little it shouldn't be an issue. Buuuut, considering it's not RL, meh😂
@@sir_coma60 It just makes me wonder why Zeon didn't just hand out beam rifles and sabers to every MS they had given this fact.
The Agguy, Z'Gok, and others had beam weapons earlier in the War, and were, in fact, not pre-charged, being powered by the MS's powerplant. The Agguy driven by two generators and the Z'Gok by a single, more powerful engine.
Thank you to Sloth Cakes for the video. This is a subject in the Gundam franchise that's always made me scratch my head.
@@OasisTypeZaku Beam Weapons are not Laser, they are most likely Plasma that's squeezed into shape and fired.
It's like holding a rocket backwards, it absolutely gives recoil.
@@OasisTypeZakuif i remember right it wasn’t till towards the end of the war that ecaps were widespread, so the beam energy came from the reactor as well as powering the mobile suit
Side note of the V2's Wings of Light. They're just byproducts from excessive energy from the Minovsky Drive System, so they're not really a weapon per se but Uso's smart enough to manipulate them as such.
As for Internal Beam Sabers, I think the best option is having a Beam Weapon that can deploy one from the barrel, like the Hyaku-Shiki *and probably Delta Gundam* and Zeta Gundam did it. I would like to see one capable of doing both though. Like the Beam Rifle stores a Beam Saber and uses it as its 'e-caps' and the MS can remove it to use it as a BS.
beam bayonets are a cool idea that id like to see more of, being removeable is also a cool concept. I always loved how the zeta threw it to hit someone making the most expensive spear possible.
theres also the Jutte the small parry beam sabers on the underside of the gp01s br odd thing that i always forget
@@slothcakes And considering how close MS fights can get, I'm surprised we don't see more of them being used.
Speaking of the GP01, it's interesting how many timelines tackle the idea of increasing or decreasing beam lethality. UC has them done mostly via the cockpit controls, but AC's Epyon reuires a direct connection to the reactor.
a beam shot is like superman its as strong as the plot needs it to be, but in a serious note the gp01 tanking all those beam shots just shows how sturdy the damn thing was built
Infinite Justice Type Ii: *Am I a Joke to you?*
Seriously two on the legs, four on the back, two handheld beam sabers that can be a saberstaff, AND a head blade
Now that’s beam saber overkill
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thats sounds amazing I cant wait to see the movie
There's one called Hedgehog the variant of proto ZZ Gundam that has beam cannon double as beam sabers in it's entire body. Pretty fitting for it's name.
AGE has my fave MS designs. Combines rule of cool and convenience so well imo.
More internal beams: Clanche arm blade (AGE), Caitsith's beam feet (GReco), Providence's bigass blade, GuAIZ claw, Gaia Gundam's wings, ASH claws (SEED & Destiny)
whatever someone thinks about AGE, the ms designs are just amazing I love the reptile look of the vagans there a flesh color scheme away from looking like a getter or mazinger monster
The V2 Gundam can even use the Beam Shield on it's forearms to direct the Wings of Light to attack more directly with it.
i think the over.on gundam is also pretty cool. it knee has a hidden arm and beam saber like The O skirt one.
That's because it's the successor to the-O, complete with a white Chobham Armor that goes on top of it and makes it look like the-O.
He missed the wing gundam in the shield and the heavyarms gundam in the forearm of the left arm after the giant Gatling gun is empty
These internal beam sabers were one reason why I liked the designs of the Aegis and the Chaos gundams.
What about the Gaia Gundam and it’s kind of wings that have beam sabers on them that allow it to do slashing while on its transformation form or the pixy with its hip Beam dagger if your from Zeon and you never seen the pixy you could confuse it for not having any beam weapons on it so get close next thing you know it does a Robocop on you pull out beam daggers on you and stab you very quick and don’t have to go in the shoulders or nothing like that. Instead, you confused it for ammo like I did a long time ago when I was a beginner in gundam or what about the Gundam Astray red frame version of the shining finger does that count as a beam built-in weapon
those are some great entries, there is so much more i can go into and list
Always love watching your videos man keep at it
You forgot to mention Destiny having an anti-ship weapon which somehow makes it strong enough to shred a flagship.
the age titus mode is essentially the dolmen doue form UC you missed that!
Gundam Titus in thumbnail! WOOOOOO
Late uc has some previously addressed hands which qualify.
Tis a shame that we never got any form of beam saber from IBO because I think they would have had much more power then Lets say Most U.c Beamsabers due to ahab reactors Being able to run consistantly for extremely long periods of time
i kinda like that the only beam weapon in the normal run of IBO is the hashmal's laser beam. it gives the hashmal a very distinct character
while not useful against MS combat it works great againts infantry, small vehicles, and civilans is the best fun fact about the Hashmal
Beam vulcans may be more useful in IBO as anti-air or simpler anti-infantry weapons on some MS. It would be a rather interesting paradigm flip, where the vulcans are the only beam weapons and everything else is physical weaponry.
Fun Fact The Gundam Franchise was created in 1979 the year i was born. !!!😁
Good points overall presented in this video overall but there is a need for all of this to use the proper terminology. The beam saber types you showed here are officially called integrated beam sabers. This makes alot more sense than calling them internal because they are integrated in the MS itself.
However, I would like to also reuse this terminology to refer to beam sabers with how they are stored into external and internal; such as: RX-78-2 & GM as External storage types and the ones who hide them inside like the Kshatriya and Seravee as Internal storage types.
This proper classification should help in separating more of those that are actually held by manipulators and actual integrated ones.
So some examples of this new classification im proposing:
>Manipulable types - the typical beam sabers that can be held by manipulators or similar devices like subarms, ie RX-78, GM
Subtypes:
-External Storage - Manipulable types that are stored attached to the MS and clearly visible from the outside, ie RX-78, Exia, or Aerial
-Internal Storage - Manipulable types that are normally stored inside the MS, backpack, or a container, ie RX-79 Ground Type, Kshatriya, or Seravee
>Integrated - beam sabers that are integrated into the MS itself or on a part of it, ie Aegis, GM Sniper Custom, and METEOR
>Hybrid Manipulable-Integrated - beam sabers that are inbetween manipulable and integrated, ie Blitz (stored externally and used as-is), Qubeley (cannons while in arms, sabers inhand), and Zeta (cannons in waverider, sabers inhand, but the rifle and mega launcher can also be used as beam sabers, so the Zeta crosses alot of boundaries more than youd think)
As for the final category, Im not sure what to call them yet, but the beam weapons that are hybrid of physical weapons like the swords on the Sword Striker, Sword Impulse, and Destiny do warrant their own subcategory under the Integrated classification.
Thanks for the correction and info. I really like the suggested subcategories makes things more neat
In the case of the Sword Strike, Sword Impulse, and Destiny, their weapons are known as anti-ship swords, intended for obvious purposes. The beam blade is probably intended to generally increase the cutting power, but it also proves pretty useful against Phase Shift armor, which generally no-sells physical damage when active. Other MS in the Cosmic Era also seem to have such physical swords with beam blades, like the GOUF Ignited and the more recent Rud-ro.A and Cal-re.A, but they're probably not anti-ship swords.
psycho gundam Mk2 has beam blades in the arms too
What, no Stargazer's beam rings? Or Victory's beam rotors?
Or Build Fighters Fenice's beam curtains or beam wheels (I know it's not "real" robot in universe but hey, G Gundam has beam ribbons or hula hoops or something, so same thing)
The Stargazer's beam cutters are just a side effect of the Voiture Lumiere system interacting with beam shots from other MS. Undeniably cool, of course, but not really internal weapons, since the Stargazer was designed for noncombat purposes and has no weapons by default.
Did you forget the TR6 crotch saber?
Would you be able to create a Gundam lore playlist
good idea
Or beam knees like the G-first