Conor it needs to be said, so many people just bitch and moan in your comment section, the effort and work ye 3 and Wainmann have put in the past half a fecking decade is unbelievable
Revenue isn’t just about players sales. We got 200 million premier league money and also bigger commercial deals for being a premier league club. £50 million shortfall is nothing on player signings in this day and age.
I understand Gabes point regarding the finances but then Paraag should not talk like we've got no issues and that we'll be competitive in the market with a 5 week headstart compared to last season and then not utilise that headstart.
Unless we are being lied to repeatedly, there is no reason we can't spend 40 to 50 million on players. When Gray was sold we were told we don't need to sell anyone else for financial reasons. When we sold Summerville we were supposedly in the running to sign Rowe and possibly looking at other additions such as a midfielder and fullback cover. Now we have a further 40 million for Rutter. That's not even taking into account the 60 million from Redbull that we were told would be spent on the field. In other words I think we have been repeatedly misled
Genuine question, had Leicester, Ipswich or Southampton stayed down would they have received as much in transfer fees for their top talent? Does that say something to the failure of not going up last season? A second season championship squad raking in 130m in a single transfer window is unheard of.
I am far more optimistic about aaronson at the 10. Done with piroe except for impact sub. 3 in fullbback mid and winger, revaluate in jan and maybe replace farke if results are poor
So Gabe is saying the 49ners have lost hope of DF that's why they aren't backing him well that's even worse from the 49ners they are an absolute disgrace of an ownership
Gabe has to be the only member of our fanbase who actually understands what Farke means by the "mistakes from the past".... What hes referring to isnt just contract clauses. It also relates to Bielsas time at leeds when we got promoted with a small squad, full of lower league players with no resale value. So what we did was sign players like Rodrigo, Raphinha etc to strengthen the squad, but got nothing back for anyone within the squad. As it was such a small squad full of low value players, selling and bringing in fees just wasnt viable. So we basically had 2 seasons between 2020-22 where all we did was spend and recoup nothing. Thats played a huge part in the shitshow that we are currently experiencing with PSR and FFP.
The next move from the 49'sE will be sacking Farke on Friday! A couple of loan players will come in, and a manager that can get more out of this squad. They are probably talking to the new manager already! " Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap!"
You know, even with the loss of Gray, Cry and Rutter, massive losses, it’s the selling of Kamara I’m puzzled over. His departure has left a huge hole midfield and I don’t understand that piece of business as we had only just bought him.
Terms of the 2 year plan, I think we could’ve done a 2 year plan if we didn’t rely on loans and PL level players, and instead tried to rebuild with mid/lower championship/L1 players WITH premier league potential. They bet all on black last year and now we’re seeing the cost.
BRENDAN AARONSON made the right decision. He doesn't want to have problems in the future with 2 HUGE SPORT BUSINESS ENTITIES (49er & Red Bull)... Really cool-headed decision of him.. SALUTE !!
Thank you CONOR 👍👌 Absolutely brilliant DEBRIEF 👌👍 Totally loved it ❤ Some brilliant points raised by all which to be honest I can't disagree with 😫😩 You've hit the mark on most of the topics spot on 👍👌 PIROE's position in the team is becoming very worrying...😩😫 He's a good player but not being used in the right way I'm afraid 😢😥
I'm willing to wait until the end of August to see what happens. However, the rush and likelihood of having to settle for second/third choices is very, very far from showing yourself to be a competent football club. Recruitment team in particular have big questions asked of them..
Leeds are in part paying the price for the failure to get promoted last season. I'd still like to know what happened! But the club also has previous for messing up transfer windows. Whoever the owners are the bottom line is that if you don't develop and build your squad and you sell and don't properly replace your best players, you can't expect to get any better.
About 31 mins in Gabe talking about being £150Mill in the red is incorrect because you get £100Mill per season and we sold Kalvin and Rapha for £100 Mill
I agree that Farke can get more out of the first 11 but if I were in his shoes I would be extremely fked off at the whole situation this is the 2nd summer in a row now where everything is chaotic and leaving everything until the last minute to get done 49ers saying one thing then the exact opposite happens needs to be a big end to the window otherwise we will finish midtable at best. Love the debrief btw 😊
Hopefully the 49ers will come good , they are intelligent people and will want us back in the Premier league. The last two performances have been awful and they must know that we need a handful of players. We are desperate for more quality because the current squad won’t finish in the top half. At least Farke has stated that he needs at least 4 permanent additions and hopefully we get couple of high quality loans. They need to act now…. MOT
Sorry, but they have had plenty of time to come good. Instead they sell out best players, bring none in of any consequence and we are left with the dross. I do not have any confidence in the 49ers are all
If the Niners are asset stripping, it’s multiplied for me because I’m also a Raiders fan, being from the East Bay Being in the belly of the Niner Gang’s arrogance and ruining Leeds? Cancerous franchise indeed.
Farkes just had his whole system ripped up but of course it’s all his fault and the 49ers are brilliant leaving him with 19 first team players with includes 3 goalkeepers give it a fucking break. 49ers mouthpiece try and find a balance 80% of the video blames Farke 20% of the 49ers
Does anybody know what percentage of the Redbull £200M investment is sponsorship money and how much is club share purchase? If a large proportion is sponsorship, then why isn't it available to spend in the transfer window?
The manager should get the blame when he isn't doing anything good yes But the majority of the blame has to go towards the owners of that club and definitely if DF is not getting the backing
Gabes bit on finances was over simplified and flawed, all he talked about re. income was player sales, no mention of gate receipts, tv money, premier league income, merch sales etc. Hes making out that clubs can only spend on players what theyve received on player sales which is nonsense.
Conor you’re incorrect about Farke not taking any blame for Boro game, you’ve said this on several streams, he took blame for making too many rotations etc. I’m not defending him, he needs to do a lot better, but you’re laying into him at every opportunity/stream, at least be factually correct.
How is this 2 best squad in chap crap its a mess but still has a solid foundation. i agree 2 or 3 class players do not sign shite and make us look jerks waste of time snd it is down t 49 rs t buy put up or sell and go
We had the best team last and didn't go up one person fault ant that is farke , Marcelo bielsa would of pissed the leauge last season ...FARKE NOT THE MAN To lead us forward
Connor you are an absolute liar I've just watched the Middlesbrough post match interview he clearly says he takes the blame for that result Sorry Connor but that did annoy me 👊👊👊👍👍
You're allowed a twenty man squad for a good reason. It's a long and gruelling campaign! We're six short. Need four high quality signings and two loans! 🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚
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We are all going round in circles here. Hope there are signings soon so you have some Content. Repeating ourselves very bad for mental health
Conor it needs to be said, so many people just bitch and moan in your comment section, the effort and work ye 3 and Wainmann have put in the past half a fecking decade is unbelievable
Just like your doing now you mug
Let’s be honest - we need a BLOODY 10 , and a winger and a full back.
And a top striker
Revenue isn’t just about players sales. We got 200 million premier league money and also bigger commercial deals for being a premier league club. £50 million shortfall is nothing on player signings in this day and age.
I understand Gabes point regarding the finances but then Paraag should not talk like we've got no issues and that we'll be competitive in the market with a 5 week headstart compared to last season and then not utilise that headstart.
Agreed, Jack.
Unless we are being lied to repeatedly, there is no reason we can't spend 40 to 50 million on players. When Gray was sold we were told we don't need to sell anyone else for financial reasons. When we sold Summerville we were supposedly in the running to sign Rowe and possibly looking at other additions such as a midfielder and fullback cover. Now we have a further 40 million for Rutter. That's not even taking into account the 60 million from Redbull that we were told would be spent on the field. In other words I think we have been repeatedly misled
£7m for Rowe ?
Feels like we are trying to shop at Marks n Spencer’s with an Aldi budget !
Need to be more realistic in our targets 🤷♂️
Genuine question, had Leicester, Ipswich or Southampton stayed down would they have received as much in transfer fees for their top talent? Does that say something to the failure of not going up last season?
A second season championship squad raking in 130m in a single transfer window is unheard of.
Bad ownership has always been our problem. Right back to the leeds city days. Silver was ok
I am far more optimistic about aaronson at the 10. Done with piroe except for impact sub. 3 in fullbback mid and winger, revaluate in jan and maybe replace farke if results are poor
How on earth gabe do we replace summerville rutter and gray?When we wont spent tuppance?We can all see whats going on here
So Gabe is saying the 49ners have lost hope of DF that's why they aren't backing him well that's even worse from the 49ners they are an absolute disgrace of an ownership
Gabe has to be the only member of our fanbase who actually understands what Farke means by the "mistakes from the past"....
What hes referring to isnt just contract clauses. It also relates to Bielsas time at leeds when we got promoted with a small squad, full of lower league players with no resale value.
So what we did was sign players like Rodrigo, Raphinha etc to strengthen the squad, but got nothing back for anyone within the squad. As it was such a small squad full of low value players, selling and bringing in fees just wasnt viable.
So we basically had 2 seasons between 2020-22 where all we did was spend and recoup nothing.
Thats played a huge part in the shitshow that we are currently experiencing with PSR and FFP.
Couldn’t have said it better myself, Ian! Two seasons in a row of ZERO income on player sales. It’s unforgivable negligence from Orta and Radz.
The next move from the 49'sE will be sacking Farke on Friday!
A couple of loan players will come in, and a manager that can get more out of this squad.
They are probably talking to the new manager already!
" Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap!"
You know, even with the loss of Gray, Cry and Rutter, massive losses, it’s the selling of Kamara I’m puzzled over. His departure has left a huge hole midfield and I don’t understand that piece of business as we had only just bought him.
How much did the 49s pay in the buyout. £154 m incoming from sales is not bad ,Is that all their money back 🚶🏻
Terms of the 2 year plan, I think we could’ve done a 2 year plan if we didn’t rely on loans and PL level players, and instead tried to rebuild with mid/lower championship/L1 players WITH premier league potential. They bet all on black last year and now we’re seeing the cost.
BRENDAN AARONSON made the right decision. He doesn't want to have problems in the future with 2 HUGE SPORT BUSINESS ENTITIES (49er & Red Bull)... Really cool-headed decision of him.. SALUTE !!
Thank you CONOR 👍👌
Absolutely brilliant DEBRIEF 👌👍
Totally loved it ❤
Some brilliant points raised by all which to be honest I can't disagree with 😫😩
You've hit the mark on most of the topics spot on 👍👌
PIROE's position in the team is becoming very worrying...😩😫
He's a good player but not being used in the right way I'm afraid 😢😥
Nice opening statement Gabe😂Love your irony mate.
The 49ners pushed the button on the Joel piroe transfer and it was reported that they did it
For me Gabe is the one. Talks a lot of sense.
Great debate, lads. Fonts of knowledge
I'm willing to wait until the end of August to see what happens. However, the rush and likelihood of having to settle for second/third choices is very, very far from showing yourself to be a competent football club. Recruitment team in particular have big questions asked of them..
Who's the guy with Oscars voice and no hat?
Oscar, very well spoken, great speaker. Thanks for the video guys
Gabe spitting facts at the start of this!!!
whos gonna score the goals or create them?
they many be good players, but it may be the manager is asking them to do something that they can't do
Leeds are in part paying the price for the failure to get promoted last season. I'd still like to know what happened! But the club also has previous for messing up transfer windows. Whoever the owners are the bottom line is that if you don't develop and build your squad and you sell and don't properly replace your best players, you can't expect to get any better.
About 31 mins in Gabe talking about being £150Mill in the red is incorrect because you get £100Mill per season and we sold Kalvin and Rapha for £100 Mill
-56m euros, actually -> and it’s the spending versus buying red margin from all of the activity since 2019 (including those players you mentioned)
I agree that Farke can get more out of the first 11 but if I were in his shoes I would be extremely fked off at the whole situation this is the 2nd summer in a row now where everything is chaotic and leaving everything until the last minute to get done 49ers saying one thing then the exact opposite happens needs to be a big end to the window otherwise we will finish midtable at best. Love the debrief btw 😊
Should play 3 , 4 , 3
Hopefully the 49ers will come good , they are intelligent people and will want us back in the Premier league. The last two performances have been awful and they must know that we need a handful of players. We are desperate for more quality because the current squad won’t finish in the top half. At least Farke has stated that he needs at least 4 permanent additions and hopefully we get couple of high quality loans. They need to act now…. MOT
Sorry, but they have had plenty of time to come good. Instead they sell out best players, bring none in of any consequence and we are left with the dross. I do not have any confidence in the 49ers are all
what’s Gabe’s twitter account? I already follow Oscar but haven’t seen Gabe before, thanks
If the Niners are asset stripping, it’s multiplied for me because I’m also a Raiders fan, being from the East Bay
Being in the belly of the Niner Gang’s arrogance and ruining Leeds? Cancerous franchise indeed.
If we sign Clarke for the alleged £25mil then that is the price we lost Summerville for so we may as well have kept him. He’s far superior to Clarke.
Farkes just had his whole system ripped up but of course it’s all his fault and the 49ers are brilliant leaving him with 19 first team players with includes 3 goalkeepers give it a fucking break. 49ers mouthpiece try and find a balance 80% of the video blames Farke 20% of the 49ers
Does anybody know what percentage of the Redbull £200M investment is sponsorship money and how much is club share purchase? If a large proportion is sponsorship, then why isn't it available to spend in the transfer window?
Got the 49ers out of this great club
Amazing how many times Oscar talks about things in groups of not one, not two but free.
Drives me mad when people can't pronounce the TH in THREE 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️it's like baby talk, where someone hasn't been corrected as a child.
The manager should get the blame when he isn't doing anything good yes
But the majority of the blame has to go towards the owners of that club and definitely if DF is not getting the backing
Gabes bit on finances was over simplified and flawed, all he talked about re. income was player sales, no mention of gate receipts, tv money, premier league income, merch sales etc. Hes making out that clubs can only spend on players what theyve received on player sales which is nonsense.
Top players are ONLY gonna come if they are 1st choice , top quality back ups for cover just aren’t happening 🤷♂️
If we realistically 6 required
3-1 Leeds 🤞🏻
You do a great job conor lad but take a step back or this bloody club will destroy you. 👍
Debt Gabe not what parag man said like for like where is 49 rs investment or dont they do that
Bogle CANNOT defend! Get away lad.
Piroe can’t play 10 …. Lets start there
They are all to blame players manager and 49RS I've said enough about it now let's get more players in now then we should be fine ALAW
As it stands, we ain’t going up, our players are not good enough for top 6 never mind top 2
Conor you’re incorrect about Farke not taking any blame for Boro game, you’ve said this on several streams, he took blame for making too many rotations etc. I’m not defending him, he needs to do a lot better, but you’re laying into him at every opportunity/stream, at least be factually correct.
Farke out ASAP
I will judge end of this window but so far......appalling!
How is this 2 best squad in chap crap its a mess but still has a solid foundation. i agree 2 or 3 class players do not sign shite and make us look jerks waste of time snd it is down t 49 rs t buy put up or sell and go
Has the American landed yet
Gabe bringing the smoke!
We had the best team last and didn't go up one person fault ant that is farke , Marcelo bielsa would of pissed the leauge last season ...FARKE NOT THE MAN To lead us forward
Admit it you don’t know what’s going on
I think it’s Farke me, mediocre manager
Connor you are an absolute liar I've just watched the Middlesbrough post match interview he clearly says he takes the blame for that result
Sorry Connor but that did annoy me 👊👊👊👍👍
Don’t say that Philip - you’re better than that. I’m not a liar at all.
Talked about Georgie leaving too which was madness
The yank blaming it all on Farke lol
This American fellow is a nightmare….
You're allowed a twenty man squad for a good reason. It's a long and gruelling campaign!
We're six short. Need four high quality signings and two loans! 🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚
Got the 49ers out of this great club