i have been doing concrete for 35 years and I'm still learning. when i stop learning im going to retire. anyway i find myself watching more of your videos all the time it seems we both share a love of all things concrete. learning new ways to perfect my craft keeps me interested. nice job i been thinking about a roller myself my company is small so anything to help make things faster or easier I'm in.
I've been doing concrete floors 39 years and never used a jitter bug or roller tamper. Just kick screed or vibra-screed and bullfloat before troweling.
From my perspective, it's interesting to see your approach to concrete work and similar nuances with reloading. Sometimes we do things because that's what we were taught or saw, sometimes we see problems/limitations with equipment (jitterbug requiring to be level with the desired surface) and want to improve on. There's tremendous value that people like yourself bring to generating a product/service and your sharing that. Thanks for this video.
I finish in the west coast swampland of Florida. 5 to 8 thousand sq/day rain or shine. I pour w 5 and finish/strip/cut w 1. I doubt pricewise you could compete around here. But your workmanship, knowledge and attention to detail is a freakin joy to watch. Thanks for doin it right and good luck to you!
I learned something today. Do it yourself concrete is crazy. Leave it to the pros! And when I say that I'm talking about you guys specifically. Beautiful work.
I just bought a roller bug like that today, I jitterbug everything I pour it absolutely does not weaken the slab on the contrary it make it stronger and more dense and less likely to sweat without using that freckin poly
Ya i agree. Good stuff man. You remind me of a guy I worked for years ago doing concrete landscaping and curbing. He always had and bought us top of the line tools "toys" to get the job done with excellent results. Oh and unflat I get it .....great stuff Eric keep it coming
I obviously don't get out enough - I haven't seen anyone use jitterbugs and rollerbugs since the late 90s. Not in use here for some time because of our intense freeze/thaw cycles - slabs tended to spall, especially when pouring in colder weather when we used to use calcium chloride pellets for accelerator - that was rough on the mix, and you could almost count on problems down the line. So the more coarse aggregate left close to the top the better. I like how those Wagman blades work in combination with regular blades and pans - I think a set of those is in our future.
You are spot on don’t push the rock down it’s the strength If you want easy finishing concrete order smaller rock like maybe 1/2 inch in the mix and order 4000 psi. All will cost more but it’s worth it.
Your videos are very educational... tambien vi el video en el cual compartes tu historia y fue muy inspiradora...!!! Todo hombre que hace un buen trabajo es recompensado de arriba...!!! May God bless you...!!!
You the best I have seen and I have seen a lot in 30+ yrs. Just poured a basement Thursday morning and it was cracked up Friday morning before I could saw some joints in it. He used 3000 mix that's all I know. I asked him about the bump cutter a while back and said to much work. Great job 👍
Have the chalk lines snapped by the time the machine is finished finishing. Have saw ready to cut floor. Cut the same day. Especially in hot weather. You might get away with cutting next day if it’s like in the forty’s. But that’s a maybe.
Great video mate. I really appreciate your sharing and explanation. Saw your new toy err... I meant tool "Roller Tamper". I have not use this personally although we were recommended by the tool shop as it supposedly will solve our protruding fiber reinforced concrete floors. Since you have tried it and it looks all well in the video. Do you think it would keep the steel or macro synthetic fiber down as well as the top surface aggregates?
unflattened lol..love it...keep the vids coming...I am in California and would LOVE a Barndo but I am sure the twits out here would not allow the permit :(
Why drop the agg when power power toweling? This is a serious question? I'm watching your video because I'm getting ready to stamp some concrete and the guy wants me to jitter bug pretty sure he wants me to lose the Jon so that's why I'm coming up with this solution you definitely seem like a great person to pick the brain of so I really hope you respond
I FIRST SAW ONE ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO AND GOT ONE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO--LIFE SAVING TOOL--RECOMMEND TO ALL--GIVES YOU TIME YET HAVE LEARNED TO NOT USE AS EARLY AS BULLFLOAT
you''re in texas so don't worry about the water. its not like you can always pour a low slump with the heat in the southern states. i am certain you have poured a wet slump without additives. everyone has! so it will be ok
Nube here, would there be a purpose in using fly ash and a water reducer, or do they cancel each other out? I like the idea of having a longer working time with the mix. Great video, appreciate your production value.... most viewers have never made a video and don't appreciate all the work that goes into making a video.
Both of the slow the setting time down, but fly ash does it by reducing the amount of cement used, and retarder does it by chemically putting concrete “to sleep” before it sets off. So retarder is best because it doesn’t reduce concrete. Hope that helps.
I've had problems with an guy who used an roller and it didn't put the agrigate down far enough and we got scratches on the surface so where the weights could help
Erik when you use a bump cutter how stiff or soft should the concrete be to get a good level floor? Roughly a little bit before you machine it the first time I'm guessing
You're smarter than you only because in 06 I was a crane operator I got hurt in an accident pretty bad shattered my elbow broke my wrist and blew out my shoulder day before that another operator shredded the cartilage in my knee so I've had partial elbow replacement two replacements both shoulders repaired oh i think 6 hernias repaired aint no keepin an oldmarine down besides. House aint paid needs windows siding sheetrock ect. Christ keeps me goin thanks for your respect god bless
In Australia we don't use those tools. We work a lot easier than you guys you should watch a concrete ninja video to see how easy we do it in Australia. We screed it to level pads done by laser then bullfloat it then finished with the trowel machines and only one man on the screed. And we also vibrate the concrete and spray curing compound on top of the concrete to cure it.
What does a slab like that generally cost? I'm looking to build either a 40x60, or a 35x50 steel ridged barndo with a 15' leanto off one side. I'm looking for a contractor in the area that knows how to build them, so prices is what I'm trying to add up. I'm thinking at least $10k for engineered monolithic slab with footers.
Looking at this seems like a dream. I have to go do 2500 Square meters tomorrow and thursday on 4 guys. And they are like.. 5? on like 450 Square meters :< Jealous
In Canada we call those rollers jitter bugs and what you call a jitter bug we call a hand tamper. Been using on for years. Only problem is concrete suppliers won't warranty the crete if a roller is used .
How's it going Texas My name is Felix zratew, owner of The Masonry Company in CA. It seems like you do commercial work, I do residential work and have been seeing discoloration on concrete. I will try to get to you to discuss this discoloration problem. It's so awful to see discoloration
What is your address I’ll send you another jitter bug ☹️ I quit using them years ago. The reason is that they push the rock down and only leave the cream cement on top. The rock is the strength or backbone of the concrete. Sure it makes it easy to finish but in my opinion it will flake off and leave a bad floor. Don’t push the rock down. Or why even put rock in the mix at all.
David Middleton I respect the effect and wear and tear you’ve put your body through. I’ve got two uncles, one 65ish and one 72 who did concrete their whole lives and barely walk now
We get slabs exactly like that without roller/jitter bugs and this bump cutter you call them. I think they are just a waste of time and labor when you can be doing other things. Maybe better employees who can screed and perhaps machine it better? After watching a few videos I see your guys bull-floating against screed lines when you should be screeding the opposite way. Anyways, I have never had any problems and perfectly flat with no bird baths etc., skipping your 2 additional steps. But very nice work!!
It would be interesting to compare the wear and lifespan of this tool if you were to plate Nickel Boron to the steel wire mesh both with and without a hardness bake. I assume the wire mesh is stainless steel?
I’m confused as to why this is necessary. Been in concrete for almost ten years and never used a jitter bug or anything like this. It’s always been screed, float,pan,trowel,burn.
I'm in the trucking business.. I'm a maintenance manager for a trucking company. Got about 35 mechanics working under me. I've been here for almost 20 years. Been looking for an out, concrete and construction (dirt work) really gets my attention.
Here’s the lowdown on the roller tamp function. The roller tamp helps push larger aggregate below the concrete surface providing additional mortar coverage. This is especially important when bump cutting behind trowel machines when higher tolerance floor flatness requirements are needed. When minimal mortar coverage exists over larger aggregate at the surface, the mortar is subjected to heat generated by the power troweling process. The heat evaporates the water in the mortar creating a weak bond between the aggregate and surrounding mortar. The mortar eventually pops away from the aggregate and a hole is created in the floor surface. In due time the aggregate loosens and pops out of the concrete. This is referred to as a “rock pop”
I have a new appreciation for how hard concrete workers work!
Eric a man that willing to try new things and learn in the building industry is a rare occurrence. That is a big part of your success.
Thank you
i have been doing concrete for 35 years and I'm still learning. when i stop learning im going to retire. anyway i find myself watching more of your videos all the time it seems we both share a love of all things concrete. learning new ways to perfect my craft keeps me interested. nice job i been thinking about a roller myself my company is small so anything to help make things faster or easier I'm in.
I've been doing concrete floors 39 years and never used a jitter bug or roller tamper. Just kick screed or vibra-screed and bullfloat before troweling.
Gonna try the vibra screen next probably.
Well god damn pencil dick
Mike
You don't use it because it does what? Pushes aggregate down? So concrete is weakened???
@@billclinton4344 bro 😅😅
Mike does good work he's not a dick check his channel
From my perspective, it's interesting to see your approach to concrete work and similar nuances with reloading. Sometimes we do things because that's what we were taught or saw, sometimes we see problems/limitations with equipment (jitterbug requiring to be level with the desired surface) and want to improve on.
There's tremendous value that people like yourself bring to generating a product/service and your sharing that. Thanks for this video.
I finish in the west coast swampland of Florida. 5 to 8 thousand sq/day rain or shine. I pour w 5 and finish/strip/cut w 1. I doubt pricewise you could compete around here. But your workmanship, knowledge and attention to detail is a freakin joy to watch. Thanks for doin it right and good luck to you!
I learned something today. Do it yourself concrete is crazy.
Leave it to the pros! And when I say that I'm talking about you guys specifically. Beautiful work.
I didn't expect to see Eric. Looks like we both like concrete and guns. super cool
I just bought a roller bug like that today, I jitterbug everything I pour it absolutely does not weaken the slab on the contrary it make it stronger and more dense and less likely to sweat without using that freckin poly
That tool saved my can! First time pouring a floor for my 26x38 garage floor and it works great!
I bought a thesaurus at a second-hand store. Not only was it terrible, but it was terrible. And that roller/tamper is awesome.
😂
Just letting you know I love your info and videos. You have a great personality for these videos. Thanks from Cincinnati Ohio
Thank you.
Ya i agree. Good stuff man. You remind me of a guy I worked for years ago doing concrete landscaping and curbing. He always had and bought us top of the line tools "toys" to get the job done with excellent results. Oh and unflat I get it .....great stuff Eric keep it coming
Nice job. Way to open the slab up with pans. The check rod was a nice touch too.
I obviously don't get out enough - I haven't seen anyone use jitterbugs and rollerbugs since the late 90s. Not in use here for some time because of our intense freeze/thaw cycles - slabs tended to spall, especially when pouring in colder weather when we used to use calcium chloride pellets for accelerator - that was rough on the mix, and you could almost count on problems down the line. So the more coarse aggregate left close to the top the better.
I like how those Wagman blades work in combination with regular blades and pans - I think a set of those is in our future.
You are spot on don’t push the rock down it’s the strength
If you want easy finishing concrete order smaller rock like maybe 1/2 inch in the mix and order 4000 psi.
All will cost more but it’s worth it.
It's good you got one most people don't know what it is. My dad had one some 30 plus years ago. Still like to see their still being used.
Beautiful work
That slab is a thing of beauty. 👍
Thank you.
Wow a job site outside the city.that must be wonderful
Very informative, great job!
Best construction videos on RUclips
Thank you
Your videos are very educational... tambien vi el video en el cual compartes tu historia y fue muy inspiradora...!!! Todo hombre que hace un buen trabajo es recompensado de arriba...!!! May God bless you...!!!
You the best I have seen and I have seen a lot in 30+ yrs. Just poured a basement Thursday morning and it was cracked up Friday morning before I could saw some joints in it. He used 3000 mix that's all I know. I asked him about the bump cutter a while back and said to much work. Great job 👍
Thank you.
Dang man sounds bad. y'all laid it?
Have the chalk lines snapped by the time the machine is finished finishing. Have saw ready to cut floor. Cut the same day. Especially in hot weather. You might get away with cutting next day if it’s like in the forty’s. But that’s a maybe.
Good job man looks great you guys take pride in your work fantastic
Awesome job!! Slick and smooooth!
nice job in Arizona we pour concrete at 3 or 4 am on summer by 5 or 6 am it's already over 100 degrees
Facccts
Great video mate. I really appreciate your sharing and explanation. Saw your new toy err... I meant tool "Roller Tamper". I have not use this personally although we were recommended by the tool shop as it supposedly will solve our protruding fiber reinforced concrete floors. Since you have tried it and it looks all well in the video. Do you think it would keep the steel or macro synthetic fiber down as well as the top surface aggregates?
That is a great looking slab and that Roller Tamper seems to beat the jitterbug hands down.
Indeed. Roller bug is the way to go. But idk how well it would do on stiff concrete. More testing on the way.
Texas Barndominiums maybe you can weld on a bracket for some gym plate weights.
I`ve found the roller tamper very useful when the rock chips just won`t stay down.
Well done for promoting good practice esp. around curing of the concrete. Nice video.
Been using rollertamps for years and they are awesome
1000 times faster than a jitterbug and they work great for steep driveways
Eric I was looking at them on ebay two days ago good video thanks
There is a link on description for the one we are using. I like how light it was.
unflattened lol..love it...keep the vids coming...I am in California and would LOVE a Barndo but I am sure the twits out here would not allow the permit :(
Thank you.
Yeah, Californians are “different”. 😁
I wish I could get you to fly out to Cincinnati, I got 3 Driveways and sidewalks to pour..
Love your videos
Funny I was watching your last video watching your guys use a jitterbug and I commented to myself buy a roller one. They are awesome
I have used a rollerbug to put finish on parts of horse barns in Florida ! The owners really like the look an it a the horses a lot better footing!
I could see using it for that kind of finish. Screed it roll it let er get hard.
You do good work, I work around the mineral wells area
Saludos desde Oklahoma...
I like your show....
You do great work...I need to purchase one of those Roller tamper..
Another great informative video!
Beautiful Job‼️👍👍 Vinny 🇺🇸
Thank you
Why drop the agg when power power toweling? This is a serious question? I'm watching your video because I'm getting ready to stamp some concrete and the guy wants me to jitter bug pretty sure he wants me to lose the Jon so that's why I'm coming up with this solution you definitely seem like a great person to pick the brain of so I really hope you respond
I FIRST SAW ONE ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO AND GOT ONE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO--LIFE SAVING TOOL--RECOMMEND TO ALL--GIVES YOU TIME YET HAVE LEARNED TO NOT USE AS EARLY AS BULLFLOAT
you''re in texas so don't worry about the water. its not like you can always pour a low slump with the heat in the southern states. i am certain you have poured a wet slump without additives. everyone has! so it will be ok
I love the roller tamper
I own and operate 7 concrete crews in NJ .we use them everyday
Look at a cure and seal applied by a sprayer.. It wears off after like 30 to 60 days but it holds the moister in the slab.
I believe Marshaltown makes a Thesaraus.
Nube here, would there be a purpose in using fly ash and a water reducer, or do they cancel each other out? I like the idea of having a longer working time with the mix. Great video, appreciate your production value.... most viewers have never made a video and don't appreciate all the work that goes into making a video.
Both of the slow the setting time down, but fly ash does it by reducing the amount of cement used, and retarder does it by chemically putting concrete “to sleep” before it sets off. So retarder is best because it doesn’t reduce concrete. Hope that helps.
Do you still use a power screed and bull float?
nice job!! Next thing ya know....riding troweling machines :o)
We use them on big slabs.
I've had problems with an guy who used an roller and it didn't put the agrigate down far enough and we got scratches on the surface so where the weights could help
that pump guy was probably loving that mix, looks super super wet, probably could have kept it alive long enough for that clean up to get there
Erik when you use a bump cutter how stiff or soft should the concrete be to get a good level floor? Roughly a little bit before you machine it the first time I'm guessing
Yes. Need to be stiff enough to support cutter but plastic enough to be cut. Like everything else, it’s about timing.
You're smarter than you only because in 06 I was a crane operator I got hurt in an accident pretty bad shattered my elbow broke my wrist and blew out my shoulder day before that another operator shredded the cartilage in my knee so I've had partial elbow replacement two replacements both shoulders repaired oh i think 6 hernias repaired aint no keepin an oldmarine down besides. House aint paid needs windows siding sheetrock ect. Christ keeps me goin thanks for your respect god bless
Sorry to hear that. Keep pushing though! Thanks for watching.
Good job!!!
the Jitterbug on a roller that's like 30 years ago nowadays they used to Street vibrator with the motor on it it's the best thing you can use
Nice work !
How do you create the step down level for the car port?
Like you attention to detail ,how much it weight
So what exactly does the tool help speed up?
In Australia we don't use those tools. We work a lot easier than you guys you should watch a concrete ninja video to see how easy we do it in Australia. We screed it to level pads done by laser then bullfloat it then finished with the trowel machines and only one man on the screed. And we also vibrate the concrete and spray curing compound on top of the concrete to cure it.
What does a slab like that generally cost? I'm looking to build either a 40x60, or a 35x50 steel ridged barndo with a 15' leanto off one side. I'm looking for a contractor in the area that knows how to build them, so prices is what I'm trying to add up. I'm thinking at least $10k for engineered monolithic slab with footers.
So what exactly are those 2 tools doing?
Which tools?
@@TexasBarndominiums The jitterbug and roller.
Looking at this seems like a dream. I have to go do 2500 Square meters tomorrow and thursday on 4 guys. And they are like.. 5? on like 450 Square meters :< Jealous
What's wrong with floating to push it down?
Put that thing away and get a vibrastrike.
Big facts
All the years that you've been doing concrete, I'm surprised you've never used the roller tamper.
I know. 🤷♂️
Ive never used one in 26 years of concreting
In Canada we call those rollers jitter bugs and what you call a jitter bug we call a hand tamper. Been using on for years. Only problem is concrete suppliers won't warranty the crete if a roller is used .
Why is that?
The first time I used a roller it was like a revelation from God. The cream it made? Ohhhhhhh ya!
Yes you are
Should use a power screed board does all at once
We may try one soon.
So? Bird baths? Just bought one. skeptical
Seems like a step you could skip , and we would finish the whole thing with combos. Here in Toledo Ohio.
How's it going Texas
My name is Felix zratew, owner of The Masonry Company in CA.
It seems like you do commercial work,
I do residential work and have been seeing discoloration on concrete. I will try to get to you to discuss this discoloration problem.
It's so awful to see discoloration
Go watch Tyler Ley’s channel. He may have a video on that subject.
@@TexasBarndominiums thanks
I see you used the self leveling concrete on this job.
😁
that's flat alright......but how do get your slabs level?
Laser level.
@@TexasBarndominiums mm i'm yet to see you using one in your videos then :-)
Keep looking.
Where may i get rollers stamp
3500 psi is so low in Cement that us bleeds like crazy - very high water: cement ratio too!
Do you saw cut slab?
No
What is your address I’ll send you another jitter bug ☹️ I quit using them years ago.
The reason is that they push the rock down and only leave the cream cement on top. The rock is the strength or backbone of the concrete. Sure it makes it easy to finish but in my opinion it will flake off and leave a bad floor. Don’t push the rock down. Or why even put rock in the mix at all.
Try the Rattle Stick!
I am a 62 yr old former finsher now. Just. A one man show general contractor i do concrete repair ,steps, stucco , remodel ect. Nice tool by the way
David Middleton I respect the effect and wear and tear you’ve put your body through. I’ve got two uncles, one 65ish and one 72 who did concrete their whole lives and barely walk now
@@mattbrew11 i jus posted a comment on the same vid for you
We get slabs exactly like that without roller/jitter bugs and this bump cutter you call them. I think they are just a waste of time and labor when you can be doing other things. Maybe better employees who can screed and perhaps machine it better? After watching a few videos I see your guys bull-floating against screed lines when you should be screeding the opposite way. Anyways, I have never had any problems and perfectly flat with no bird baths etc., skipping your 2 additional steps. But very nice work!!
You use concrete finishers are that your carpenters
What is the purpose of tamping ?
Push rocks down and bring cream to the top for finishing.
Why not just use white tarp the concrete?
If we water cure in Canada, our concrete has had the top flake off.
It would be interesting to compare the wear and lifespan of this tool if you were to plate Nickel Boron to the steel wire mesh both with and without a hardness bake. I assume the wire mesh is stainless steel?
Almost 46k subs bro, where is your patreon account?...... It's time for you to start making these great videos worth your while 💰💰💰, I'm just saying.
Word! Thank you for what you sent me Mr. Cortina. Class Act.
Forget about spraying water for so many days. Spend the $200 and buy E-Cure Water-Based Concrete Curing Compound or Cure & Seal Water Based.
Semper Fi god bless
I’m confused as to why this is necessary. Been in concrete for almost ten years and never used a jitter bug or anything like this. It’s always been screed, float,pan,trowel,burn.
Bro, you got me wanting to change jobs.... I like concrete!!!
What do you do now?
I'm in the trucking business.. I'm a maintenance manager for a trucking company. Got about 35 mechanics working under me. I've been here for almost 20 years. Been looking for an out, concrete and construction (dirt work) really gets my attention.
@@doinjusfine1 stay with your job, trust me !!!
doinjusfine1 unless you like working in the elements. Cold and HOT! Heavy hard work. Your getting old, don’t use your body it will break down.
@@FishFind3000 thanks for the insight.. but I'm talking about owning the business... not necessarily driving stakes and pulling mud..
Use a straight edge and a Bull Float
My auntie married a Mexican i have Mexican cousins worked in her restaurant. She had very good machaca que no
One bad thing about the roller tamer is your working bleed water in make for weaker top
Vaya con Dios
When did you figure on cutting joints. Be truthful to the people that you profess to
We don’t cut joints.
Why would I lie? What do I gain from lying?
That’s a great way to weaken the surface!
Why is that?
Here’s the lowdown on the roller tamp function. The roller tamp helps push larger aggregate below the concrete surface providing additional mortar coverage. This is especially important when bump cutting behind trowel machines when higher tolerance floor flatness requirements are needed. When minimal mortar coverage exists over larger aggregate at the surface, the mortar is subjected to heat generated by the power troweling process. The heat evaporates the water in the mortar creating a weak bond between the aggregate and surrounding mortar. The mortar eventually pops away from the aggregate and a hole is created in the floor surface. In due time the aggregate loosens and pops out of the concrete. This is referred to as a “rock pop”
New tool ....... I love your vids but dude this is far from new, I was using this in 2008 when doing floors
New to us.
Why don't you just buy a magic screen
Is it weird that I find a beautiful concrete slab sexy?
No, not at all. 😁
@@TexasBarndominiums Excellent!
Semper Fi do or DIe
Dont be sorry for me as I am Blessed