Sadly, you'll never see art like this again. People can't seperate reality from artistic commentary or character portrayal any more. Waters was inspired by fame and mental anguish brought on by childhood trauma, but the character created here is uniquie. In my opinion, this is probably Floyd's greatest and most important work. Few albums have sold and influenced like this one.
Just another tidbit for you guys. On these two specific cuts, Floyd had contracted with the Beach Boys to provide the accompanying harmony vocals. However a scheduling problem with the BB's disallowed them to make the trip over at recording time. After a slight rewrite,Floyd did all the vocals themselves. I'm glad they did. Excellent arrangement on the vocals that.
David Gilmour's voice is such a great subtle contrast with Roger's when Roger is in his 'I'm trying to sing normally" voice. So when Roger's "I'm Crazy!" screams and shouts are back, you get that sense of "I'm medicated" by the narrative. It's just a waste Roger and David aren't fixing their issue. David is mostly in the wrong but it takes two.
I was thinking that part was a direct call out to--and a bit of a shot at--The Beach boys. Saying "Hey we're psychotic whores for money, but enjoy our great harmonies!"
Peter Josyln, originally waters had asked the entire BB's vocals ensemble to come to London to record. They didn't make it, but had initially agreed. Bruce had previously left the group for a short stint, but returned to the fold in the later months of 1978.. I knew he had recorded in LA, but didn't know about Toni Tennile. Anyway what they contributed, in my opinion is an interical part of The Wall LP.
@@leekitchen8390 I doubt that he invited them to London as the Wall was recorded in France and Los Angeles. The Captain and Tenille replaced the other Beach Boys at Bruce Johnston’s request. Would have been fascinating to hear Brian Wilson on a Pink Floyd record though
This is the point where Pink turns. He contemplates suicide, asking “must the show go on?”, then decides to take it in a whole different direction. He wants to see how far he can take it, how much the fans love him and how far they will follow him. Side 4 takes a very dark turn for Pink.
If you’ll remember…..on the Wish You Were Here album, “Have a Cigar”” the idiotic record Producer said, “Oh, by the way, which one’s Pink?” That kind of thing only helped Roger Waters to feel more isolated. Naming the main character PINK, in The Wall was putting a name on his own feelings of disappointment and disenchantment with the world of Fame and all the high pressure that comes with touring. Pink Floyd got their name, by Syd Barrett combining the name of 2 Blues Musicians: Pink Anderson & Floyd Council.
See the movie as soon as you're done listening to the album. Then you'll really know the dark. I listened to this album dozens of times in the first few weeks after its release, but it wasn't until the movie came out in theaters that things really clicked for me.
@@dancarter482 Geloph ruined the music? he only sang in "In the Flesh?" & "In the Flesh" and his voice sounded a lot like Roger Waters for his few lines of singing. i don't understand how his small contribution of vocals to those songs ruined the whole film for you.
@@dancarter482the difference is that Champagne socialism is still socialism while national socialism is a fascist ideology that does not do away with capitalism because it’s a fascist ideology and fascism loves private property and class collaborationism.
Honestly, albums will never be made in the style of Pink Floyd ever again...the reusing of rhythms (In the Flesh, Another Brick in the Wall, etc.), the harmony, the storytelling, is just all so amazing. But in this song in particular, the bass harmony is absolutely on another planet....especially in the final harmony of "the show must go on," when he drops 3 octaves to end up as the bass is incredible.
Onto side 4, you just recover from Comfortably Numb then In the Flesh smacks you besides the head. Roger did not shy away from offensive lyric and attitude and it heightens your awareness of how crazy Pink has become. The masterpiece continues, enjoy as I will. 🎵🎸🎤🎹🎷🎶
The main character was never in the military. His father was lost during WW2 and that is reference to he war. Pink was born during the London blitz (Goodbye Blue Sky).
Roger's mom must have been stern, explaining some of that. And Syd's mom was permissive and doting. Roger was conflicted about ways mothers coped with the nonsense of war and ignorance of man. He just knew very viscerally that war is garbage and England's Royal Monarchy is The Wall coming down in his lifetime.
The Entire Album is summed up when Roger writes "Kind old King George sent Mother a note when He heard that Father was gone". When You find You are Fatherless because The King needed to make war, and many you grow up with also lost their fathers, so the sarcasm, and resentment comes through, but the message is one of "Individual Responsibility" so we can either hide away, or help.
You both are getting there, to the end of the album. Hope you do get the chance to watch them Film all in one go, don't worry about making it a reaction vid, just do it to give a better perspective of what it is all about, and besides you may enjoy some of the clips put to the music such as the two flowers turning into, well you will find out. All the best.
David, enjoyed your comment...Floyd has been a massive part of my life for 36 years since I was 14. I have the 2 flowers as part of my arm sleeve (tattoo's) along with the "man/creature" in the gas mask from the film.
Same here been a big fan since the age of 16, don't have any tattoos but have three ticket stubs from the three The Pink Floyd shows I have been to. All the best.@@dominicorange1468
Every video you post I amazed how many people were unable to follow the story just by listening to the album when it came with lyrics included with the album. We kicked back with headphones and listened and read along and it always made sense to me and my buddies.
Always easy to spot the con artists. It's not until you're older and understand global geopolitics can you capture the depth of Roger Waters' hidden messages. Most adults had little concept of what Roger was doing, and teens and college students ? We didn't know.
This "album" is an opera. It tells a story of THEM, from teens to being a multi-million $$ band on the road. From teens whose dad left in WWII and did not return. Touring, drugs, Nazi's , and over protective mother... I mean it's got a TON of story in it , which EPIC musicianship. It was a classic icon the day it was released and will stand the test of time.
Don't feel badly if a lot of the meaning of the songs are misinterpreted or just plain missed. I know no one who understood the album completely no matter how many times they listened. I certainly didn't until we seen the a few months after the album release. A lot more things made sense. Helped since they showed clips from the not yet released movie on the big round screen. But when the movie came out we realized once again we missed much of what was meant. I wouldn't expect anyone to understand by just listening to the music It is way too involved. Farm and Ranch apiary will be looking forward to your reaction of the movie if you choose to make that public. As for the concert just watching them construct the wall that was a couple hundred feet long and something like 30 ft tall between them and the stage only to be torn down at the end was mind-blowing. Then with the added large Orchestra mixed Voice Choir and boys choir just added to the experience. I believe it still stands is the largest traveling concert production ever. I have been a fan of there since 1968. And I was old then.lol ✌️🤠🏞️🐂
I agree. I'm still learning more about England's Royal Monarchy's crimes hidden within Pink Floyd albums. And the complexities of trying to have pride and a sense of humanity when crazy nonsense like Hitler was a manifestation of opulence gone amok that fed Prince Wilhelm to push Hitler to create a ruling class of German peasants to displace Jewish merchants that Queen Elizabeth's father hated. Roger Waters is determined to expose the truth and it's only been the Epstein Client Prince Andrew stuff that forced me to get to this point. I almost expect another layer coming regarding Jamal Khashoggi's uncles selling Trump Princess yacht to Donni to host Prince Andrew onboard to get paparazzi dispatch data from Prince Andrew's security detail was even then some predicted plan. Thwarted by Lady Di getting pregnant with Dodi's Muslim child. Making her disposable. I doubt Roger predicted they were as terrible as that. But he probably isn't shocked either.
I have seen the movie a dozen times and each time, I picked up on more of Roger was trying to express. So many people who try to watch the movie turn it off in the first few minutes ....before the vacuum gets to end of the hallway in the opening scene😂 don't turn off , you can get through it
This part of the story, the main character is a rockstar, there isn’t actually a surrogate band, he’s rather saying that this is the same song that the album opened with and the same band playing, but the song and band have come back with an angry tone. He says he’s gonna find out where the fans really stand, and then goes into a list of people in the crowd that he wants up against “the wall” (literally the wall in the theatre, but also the wall in his mind) he is pure hatred at this point, and wants to cause as much chaos and destruction as possible to ensure that others feel the same pain he does. He kinda has a Kanye West like breakdown.
5:52 I always loved the disconnect between the kind of noble/tragic guitar riff and the intentionally disgusting lyrics. It's what Albert Speer would have done at Nuremberg if he was a rock fan.
again, idk if you guys saw the movie, but you hear the live audience and the grandiose, sweeping sound. it's meant to resemble a nazi rally or a fascist rally in general. hitler, mussolini...might find some commonality with contemporary politicians where every part is grandiose and full of pageantry. 'pink wasn't well, he's back at the hotel,' this is him describing who he was before and how he's the new guy. after his psychotic break from reality, he now envisions himself as a fascist delivering a speech instead of a rock musician playing a show to an audience. the shit is all in his head. his childhood trauma of losing his father in the war (i think you guys previously misinterpreted him as the actual veteran,) the abusive education, the stress of being in a touring band all cause him to create this wall. the end of the second side is him essentially walling himself in from reality. this same wall separates his true self from this new fascist persona. it's hard to get. it's such a sonically and conceptually deep album. don't feel bad you didn't fully get it. it's honestly amazing and a testament to how dedicated you are to music to have picked up so much of *the first listen*. that is truly some sharp insight from y'all. it took me a lot of listens to get to where you are with it on the first listen.
I find some comfort that you react the same as I to the brilliant, puzzling bleakness that is The Wall. As I heard it, Roger Waters says he lost control of the album, and by the end did not feel any sympathy for the main character, Pink. Likewise the movie was a disaster to make, and an incoherent result. Waters was going to play Pink, but he failed his screen test so someone else played Pink. Waters, the animator, and the director all had strong, different visions of the movie, and battled constantly. So the result was conflicting ideas put together. In the end, even Waters didn't know what it was about. As he wrote on The Final Cut, his next and last album with the band: "Not now John, we've got to get on with the film show Hollywood waits at the end of the rainbow Who cares what it's about as long as the kids go So not now John, we've got to get on with the film show" So if you watch the movie, don't expect it to explain the album. The movie is just as puzzling. Still, I love the Floyd, and regardless, the album is brilliant and memorable. It raises important issues and questions. It's just that I don't personally find it a lot of fun. Thanks for seeing this music with fresh and observant eyes. I have fun and learn something every time. All the best.
The lyrics to O'Jays Money Money Money are not as many layers but not so disconnected either (greed and guns almost always mental health disorders manifesting, and feeds the environment for hate and war).
4:10 this is pretty bleak but I think Animals is still darker cuz the Wall is the individual v Animals all of society imo the music itself in Animals is darker more minor key /evil but hell I think the Deftones sound dark and ppl tell me its sexy so who tf knows .. ear of the beholder ig
People keep telling you to watch the movie but that is more confusing, a better idea would be to watch the live version of the wall , either the Floyd version from the 1980's, or the Roger waters solo version.
This is why it was such a joke that back in 2016, young Trump campaign supporters--who didn't know any better I guess--started using the distinctive wall artwork from the Pink Floyd: The Wall album cover for promo items like banners and t-shirts to promote DT's 'build the Mexican border wall' notion. In the ACTUAL ALBUM, Pink's band gets co-opted by fascist forces and turns into a Neo-Nazi movement featuring crossed hammers as swastika-like symbols, a red and black color scheme, and the slogan "Pound Them!" These visuals can be seen in the inside cover artwork as well as in promo animation by Gerald Scarfe done for the album's release, which eventually ended up in the movie. The irony here is thick enough to float a red hat on, as we all know what eventually happened...
In Comfortably Numb they are trying to awaken Pink and get him ready for the show, and this character emerges on stage a few songs later. Waters talks about how he began to hate his audience. At one point, even spitting on a fan in Montreal. That's where this Nazi character comes from. He's arrogant. He hates everything. He has become a fascist, and now he is picking out members of the audience to be shot. Notice he says "Pink isn't well he stayed back at the hotel". Either Pink has transformed into a Nazi or he is imagining himself as a Nazi.
Even though it's Called a Movie it's just the Videos of all the Songs. Might Help you Guys UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND WHAT THE SONGS MEANING TO THEM....
Watch the movie but first do a little research about what it was like to be a Brit during WW2 and think of the impact that had on a kids mind since they were kids then. Those years influenced the songwriting here and among many English bands of the time. I like watching you guys but I don't understand why so few Reaction content makers do little to no research prior to listening. If nothing else have the wiki open during the reaction. It's a concept album (and rock opera like Tommy) and really needed to be listened without any interruption, but if you watch the movie it'll all click for you then.
Personally, I’ve never been a huge fan of The Wall, though I love all the other Floyd music. I know a lot of people love this one. ( Speaking of the darkness or not of “Animals”, well if you go back and dive deeper into the lyrics and the connection with the music, it might give you a better feel for what people are saying. For instance, in the “Dogs” track, the echoing music along with the echoing lyrics of “down like a stone, stone, stone…” was connected with the image of how dogs, (puppies) population were often controlled once upon a time with a stone, a sack and a pond. Very sad and dark (but they of course were making a point!) Anyway, love how you guys have been covering prog rock and 60s/70s music in general!💗
I hope you two realize that the guy singing in “In the Flesh” is a “stand” in for Pink. In the movie he’s a Nazi militant type. So the hate speech is suppose to be seen as the antithesis of “ Pink” I’m sure you figured it out, but if you watch the movie it all becomes a really clear story.
You obviously don't read the comments with that said you need to watch the movie you've been lost all the way through and still are. Understandable until I seen the concert I had a different idea. But then came the movie. And my thought changed again. If you think the music is dark. The movie will leave you feeling disturbed.
@@AirplayBeatsthats the way we all had to do it when this was released, listen to the album straight through many times figuring it out. Then came the movie and people realized what the individual songs and the totality was. The movie did explain all those bizarre illustrations on the albulm spread, hammers, strange men and women. Seems like i remember a song being added or left out of the movie. Looking at the dvd case doesn't help because the put no track listing on it. Its probably on the internet somewhere or someone else knows.
@@AirplayBeats it wasn't meant to be an insult. And obviously then you do read, but it didn't sound like it from your commentary of what you heard. You get a break every time I watch. And I give a thumbs up whether I comment or not. I don't have time to read other comments. But I'm sure anyone as old as I am likely understands the story and it's been saying all along what things are about. One thing I won't do is tell you how something ends. Frankly it's your experience. Have had mine. And as I said I also was lost when first listening to The Wall. Fortunately I had the luxury of attending the concert within months of the album's release. ✌️
I keep telling them that They need to watch the Movie it's just Videos of the Songs. And will Help Explain to them what they were thinking about at the time....
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Remember this from the show like it was yesterday. - 1979
What a visual.
Sadly, you'll never see art like this again. People can't seperate reality from artistic commentary or character portrayal any more. Waters was inspired by fame and mental anguish brought on by childhood trauma, but the character created here is uniquie. In my opinion, this is probably Floyd's greatest and most important work. Few albums have sold and influenced like this one.
I felt like a lot of it was also inspired by Syd Barret's struggle throughout his own life as well!
Just another tidbit for you guys. On these two specific cuts, Floyd had contracted with the Beach Boys to provide the accompanying harmony vocals. However a scheduling problem with the BB's disallowed them to make the trip over at recording time. After a slight rewrite,Floyd did all the vocals themselves. I'm glad they did. Excellent arrangement on the vocals that.
David Gilmour's voice is such a great subtle contrast with Roger's when Roger is in his 'I'm trying to sing normally" voice. So when Roger's "I'm Crazy!" screams and shouts are back, you get that sense of "I'm medicated" by the narrative. It's just a waste Roger and David aren't fixing their issue. David is mostly in the wrong but it takes two.
No that’s Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys, and the Captain and Tenille. They recorded this part in L.A
I was thinking that part was a direct call out to--and a bit of a shot at--The Beach boys. Saying "Hey we're psychotic whores for money, but enjoy our great harmonies!"
Peter Josyln, originally waters had asked the entire BB's vocals ensemble to come to London to record. They didn't make it, but had initially agreed. Bruce had previously left the group for a short stint, but returned to the fold in the later months of 1978.. I knew he had recorded in LA, but didn't know about Toni Tennile. Anyway what they contributed, in my opinion is an interical part of The Wall LP.
@@leekitchen8390 I doubt that he invited them to London as the Wall was recorded in France and Los Angeles. The Captain and Tenille replaced the other Beach Boys at Bruce Johnston’s request. Would have been fascinating to hear Brian Wilson on a Pink Floyd record though
This is the point where Pink turns. He contemplates suicide, asking “must the show go on?”, then decides to take it in a whole different direction. He wants to see how far he can take it, how much the fans love him and how far they will follow him. Side 4 takes a very dark turn for Pink.
If you’ll remember…..on the Wish You Were Here album, “Have a Cigar”” the idiotic record Producer said, “Oh, by the way, which one’s Pink?” That kind of thing only helped Roger Waters to feel more isolated. Naming the main character PINK, in The Wall was putting a name on his own feelings of disappointment and disenchantment with the world of Fame and all the high pressure that comes with touring. Pink Floyd got their name, by Syd Barrett combining the name of 2 Blues Musicians: Pink Anderson & Floyd Council.
Great post. I'd have to write a novelette to say that. Well done!
@@Greg-io1ip thanks!
Truly a Van Gogh of albums enough said
See the movie as soon as you're done listening to the album. Then you'll really know the dark. I listened to this album dozens of times in the first few weeks after its release, but it wasn't until the movie came out in theaters that things really clicked for me.
NOOOO - The film _SUCKS_ it's crap and Geldoph RUINED the music!
@@dancarter482 Trump-Putin troll alert!
@@Greg-io1ip Champagne socialists bitching about national socialism - oh the _IRONY_ !
@@dancarter482 Geloph ruined the music? he only sang in "In the Flesh?" & "In the Flesh" and his voice sounded a lot like Roger Waters for his few lines of singing. i don't understand how his small contribution of vocals to those songs ruined the whole film for you.
@@dancarter482the difference is that Champagne socialism is still socialism while national socialism is a fascist ideology that does not do away with capitalism because it’s a fascist ideology and fascism loves private property and class collaborationism.
Honestly, albums will never be made in the style of Pink Floyd ever again...the reusing of rhythms (In the Flesh, Another Brick in the Wall, etc.), the harmony, the storytelling, is just all so amazing. But in this song in particular, the bass harmony is absolutely on another planet....especially in the final harmony of "the show must go on," when he drops 3 octaves to end up as the bass is incredible.
In "A Gunners Dream" off The Final Cut he blends right into the sax seamlessly....!
Onto side 4, you just recover from Comfortably Numb then In the Flesh smacks you besides the head. Roger did not shy away from offensive lyric and attitude and it heightens your awareness of how crazy Pink has become. The masterpiece continues, enjoy as I will. 🎵🎸🎤🎹🎷🎶
Thanks!
The main character was never in the military. His father was lost during WW2 and that is reference to he war. Pink was born during the London blitz (Goodbye Blue Sky).
Roger's mom must have been stern, explaining some of that. And Syd's mom was permissive and doting. Roger was conflicted about ways mothers coped with the nonsense of war and ignorance of man. He just knew very viscerally that war is garbage and England's Royal Monarchy is The Wall coming down in his lifetime.
I've been "Waiting for the worms"... I see it's next... :)
Did you recognize the way they flipped the music from the first side's "In the Flesh"?
Masterpiece!
I❤ y'all 4 being floydians. 😊
I love this guys! To me, so good! Brilliant, to me.
The Entire Album is summed up when Roger writes "Kind old King George sent Mother a note when He heard that Father was gone". When You find You are Fatherless because The King
needed to make war, and many you grow up with also lost their fathers, so the sarcasm, and resentment comes through, but the message is one of "Individual Responsibility" so we
can either hide away, or help.
This scene/song on the movie 'the wall' will put the lyrics into perspective.
The show must go on is a scene in the movie that will only enhance your understanding of the song can’t wait for you guys to see it
You should listen to some real early Floyd like Saucerful of Secrets,Set the Control for the Heart of the Sun and Careful with that Axe Eugene
love this sequence into run like hell
The movie is a MUST SEE!!!! Everything will fall in place as you watch the movie.
You both are getting there, to the end of the album. Hope you do get the chance to watch them Film all in one go, don't worry about making it a reaction vid, just do it to give a better perspective of what it is all about, and besides you may enjoy some of the clips put to the music such as the two flowers turning into, well you will find out. All the best.
David, enjoyed your comment...Floyd has been a massive part of my life for 36 years since I was 14. I have the 2 flowers as part of my arm sleeve (tattoo's) along with the "man/creature" in the gas mask from the film.
Same here been a big fan since the age of 16, don't have any tattoos but have three ticket stubs from the three The Pink Floyd shows I have been to. All the best.@@dominicorange1468
Every video you post I amazed how many people were unable to follow the story just by listening to the album when it came with lyrics included with the album. We kicked back with headphones and listened and read along and it always made sense to me and my buddies.
Always easy to spot the con artists. It's not until you're older and understand global geopolitics can you capture the depth of Roger Waters' hidden messages. Most adults had little concept of what Roger was doing, and teens and college students ? We didn't know.
Theater of the mind. We don't need no motion picture.
This "album" is an opera. It tells a story of THEM, from teens to being a multi-million $$ band on the road. From teens whose dad left in WWII and did not return. Touring, drugs, Nazi's , and over protective mother... I mean it's got a TON of story in it , which EPIC musicianship. It was a classic icon the day it was released and will stand the test of time.
Don't feel badly if a lot of the meaning of the songs are misinterpreted or just plain missed.
I know no one who understood the album completely no matter how many times they listened. I certainly didn't until we seen the a few months after the album release. A lot more things made sense. Helped since they showed clips from the not yet released movie on the big round screen. But when the movie came out we realized once again we missed much of what was meant. I wouldn't expect anyone to understand by just listening to the music It is way too involved.
Farm and Ranch apiary will be looking forward to your reaction of the movie if you choose to make that public.
As for the concert just watching them construct the wall that was a couple hundred feet long and something like 30 ft tall between them and the stage only to be torn down at the end was mind-blowing.
Then with the added large Orchestra mixed Voice Choir and boys choir just added to the experience.
I believe it still stands is the largest traveling concert production ever. I have been a fan of there since 1968. And I was old then.lol
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I agree. I'm still learning more about England's Royal Monarchy's crimes hidden within Pink Floyd albums. And the complexities of trying to have pride and a sense of humanity when crazy nonsense like Hitler was a manifestation of opulence gone amok that fed Prince Wilhelm to push Hitler to create a ruling class of German peasants to displace Jewish merchants that Queen Elizabeth's father hated. Roger Waters is determined to expose the truth and it's only been the Epstein Client Prince Andrew stuff that forced me to get to this point. I almost expect another layer coming regarding Jamal Khashoggi's uncles selling Trump Princess yacht to Donni to host Prince Andrew onboard to get paparazzi dispatch data from Prince Andrew's security detail was even then some predicted plan. Thwarted by Lady Di getting pregnant with Dodi's Muslim child. Making her disposable. I doubt Roger predicted they were as terrible as that. But he probably isn't shocked either.
I have seen the movie a dozen times and each time, I picked up on more of Roger was trying to express. So many people who try to watch the movie turn it off in the first few minutes ....before the vacuum gets to end of the hallway in the opening scene😂 don't turn off , you can get through it
This part of the story, the main character is a rockstar, there isn’t actually a surrogate band, he’s rather saying that this is the same song that the album opened with and the same band playing, but the song and band have come back with an angry tone. He says he’s gonna find out where the fans really stand, and then goes into a list of people in the crowd that he wants up against “the wall” (literally the wall in the theatre, but also the wall in his mind) he is pure hatred at this point, and wants to cause as much chaos and destruction as possible to ensure that others feel the same pain he does. He kinda has a Kanye West like breakdown.
Not too many notes, simple and powerful!!!
They did one more album called the final cut its like a bit of a continuation of the wall
Waters' first solo album really. The other members had very little to do with it, and it shows. Big disappointment for most of us Floyd heads.
@@noyfb4769 true but it was the last one they recorded together. And yes definitely not their best at all
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5:52 I always loved the disconnect between the kind of noble/tragic guitar riff and the intentionally disgusting lyrics. It's what Albert Speer would have done at Nuremberg if he was a rock fan.
The final cut was the last album dark
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again, idk if you guys saw the movie, but you hear the live audience and the grandiose, sweeping sound. it's meant to resemble a nazi rally or a fascist rally in general. hitler, mussolini...might find some commonality with contemporary politicians where every part is grandiose and full of pageantry. 'pink wasn't well, he's back at the hotel,' this is him describing who he was before and how he's the new guy. after his psychotic break from reality, he now envisions himself as a fascist delivering a speech instead of a rock musician playing a show to an audience. the shit is all in his head. his childhood trauma of losing his father in the war (i think you guys previously misinterpreted him as the actual veteran,) the abusive education, the stress of being in a touring band all cause him to create this wall. the end of the second side is him essentially walling himself in from reality. this same wall separates his true self from this new fascist persona.
it's hard to get. it's such a sonically and conceptually deep album. don't feel bad you didn't fully get it. it's honestly amazing and a testament to how dedicated you are to music to have picked up so much of *the first listen*. that is truly some sharp insight from y'all. it took me a lot of listens to get to where you are with it on the first listen.
I find some comfort that you react the same as I to the brilliant, puzzling bleakness that is The Wall. As I heard it, Roger Waters says he lost control of the album, and by the end did not feel any sympathy for the main character, Pink.
Likewise the movie was a disaster to make, and an incoherent result. Waters was going to play Pink, but he failed his screen test so someone else played Pink. Waters, the animator, and the director all had strong, different visions of the movie, and battled constantly. So the result was conflicting ideas put together. In the end, even Waters didn't know what it was about. As he wrote on The Final Cut, his next and last album with the band:
"Not now John, we've got to get on with the film show
Hollywood waits at the end of the rainbow
Who cares what it's about as long as the kids go
So not now John, we've got to get on with the film show"
So if you watch the movie, don't expect it to explain the album. The movie is just as puzzling.
Still, I love the Floyd, and regardless, the album is brilliant and memorable. It raises important issues and questions. It's just that I don't personally find it a lot of fun.
Thanks for seeing this music with fresh and observant eyes. I have fun and learn something every time. All the best.
Roger Waters sounds like a carnival barker in “In the Flesh.”
The lyrics to O'Jays Money Money Money are not as many layers but not so disconnected either (greed and guns almost always mental health disorders manifesting, and feeds the environment for hate and war).
4:10 this is pretty bleak but I think Animals is still darker cuz the Wall is the individual v Animals all of society imo the music itself in Animals is darker more minor key /evil but hell I think the Deftones sound dark and ppl tell me its sexy so who tf knows .. ear of the beholder ig
See the movie when you're done with the album. It'll make a lot more sense.
It’s all down hill from here
$787.5 Million hit but the show must go on! never mind the fake news. Only believe my alternate facts! So you might like to see the show?
People keep telling you to watch the movie but that is more confusing, a better idea would be to watch the live version of the wall , either the Floyd version from the 1980's, or the Roger waters solo version.
I really can’t listen to the 2nd CD. It makes me want to cry. It feels like despair 😞
This is why it was such a joke that back in 2016, young Trump campaign supporters--who didn't know any better I guess--started using the distinctive wall artwork from the Pink Floyd: The Wall album cover for promo items like banners and t-shirts to promote DT's 'build the Mexican border wall' notion. In the ACTUAL ALBUM, Pink's band gets co-opted by fascist forces and turns into a Neo-Nazi movement featuring crossed hammers as swastika-like symbols, a red and black color scheme, and the slogan "Pound Them!" These visuals can be seen in the inside cover artwork as well as in promo animation by Gerald Scarfe done for the album's release, which eventually ended up in the movie.
The irony here is thick enough to float a red hat on, as we all know what eventually happened...
Pretty sure u missed the song
MOTHER
On this album
You just have to watch the movie.
Are you going to post your viewing of the movie?
The reason you've never seen anyone post the movie is because it would be taken down before it even got fully put up.
@@flubblert I don't care about the movie, only their reaction to it.
@@tannonwraith4692 you asked if they were going to post their viewing of the movie I'm saying that would not be allowed. No one has succeeded yet .
In Comfortably Numb they are trying to awaken Pink and get him ready for the show, and this character emerges on stage a few songs later. Waters talks about how he began to hate his audience. At one point, even spitting on a fan in Montreal. That's where this Nazi character comes from. He's arrogant. He hates everything. He has become a fascist, and now he is picking out members of the audience to be shot. Notice he says "Pink isn't well he stayed back at the hotel". Either Pink has transformed into a Nazi or he is imagining himself as a Nazi.
Crazo shaving pink lost his scruples
Even though it's Called a Movie it's just the Videos of all the Songs. Might Help you Guys UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND WHAT THE SONGS MEANING TO THEM....
A missed opportunity for some seriously relevant social commentary here. 😔
Watch the movie but first do a little research about what it was like to be a Brit during WW2 and think of the impact that had on a kids mind since they were kids then. Those years influenced the songwriting here and among many English bands of the time. I like watching you guys but I don't understand why so few Reaction content makers do little to no research prior to listening. If nothing else have the wiki open during the reaction. It's a concept album (and rock opera like Tommy) and really needed to be listened without any interruption, but if you watch the movie it'll all click for you then.
Personally, I’ve never been a huge fan of The Wall, though I love all the other Floyd music. I know a lot of people love this one. ( Speaking of the darkness or not of “Animals”, well if you go back and dive deeper into the lyrics and the connection with the music, it might give you a better feel for what people are saying. For instance, in the “Dogs” track, the echoing music along with the echoing lyrics of “down like a stone, stone, stone…” was connected with the image of how dogs, (puppies) population were often controlled once upon a time with a stone, a sack and a pond. Very sad and dark (but they of course were making a point!) Anyway, love how you guys have been covering prog rock and 60s/70s music in general!💗
I hope you two realize that the guy singing in “In the Flesh” is a “stand” in for Pink. In the movie he’s a Nazi militant type. So the hate speech is suppose to be seen as the antithesis of “ Pink” I’m sure you figured it out, but if you watch the movie it all becomes a really clear story.
The stand in is actually pink himself he has become his own alter ego due to him isolating himself behind his wall.
You obviously don't read the comments with that said you need to watch the movie you've been lost all the way through and still are. Understandable until I seen the concert I had a different idea. But then came the movie. And my thought changed again.
If you think the music is dark. The movie will leave you feeling disturbed.
We read the comments. We are finishing the album and then watching the movie. Give us a break will ya
@@AirplayBeatsthats the way we all had to do it when this was released, listen to the album straight through many times figuring it out. Then came the movie and people realized what the individual songs and the totality was. The movie did explain all those bizarre illustrations on the albulm spread, hammers, strange men and women. Seems like i remember a song being added or left out of the movie. Looking at the dvd case doesn't help because the put no track listing on it. Its probably on the internet somewhere or someone else knows.
@@AirplayBeats it wasn't meant to be an insult. And obviously then you do read, but it didn't sound like it from your commentary of what you heard.
You get a break every time I watch. And I give a thumbs up whether I comment or not.
I don't have time to read other comments. But I'm sure anyone as old as I am likely understands the story and it's been saying all along what things are about. One thing I won't do is tell you how something ends. Frankly it's your experience. Have had mine. And as I said I also was lost when first listening to The Wall. Fortunately I had the luxury of attending the concert within months of the album's release. ✌️
@@farmnranchapiarybeehiveser8120 no worries. We appreciate you. I’m sure we will figure out this album when we listen on our own time.
I keep telling them that They need to watch the Movie it's just Videos of the Songs. And will Help Explain to them what they were thinking about at the time....
I get maga vibes from this song… just saying.
In the flesh sounds so much like Trump it’s scary, lyrically
i don't like trump either but, no it doesn't
This last side sounds like the rest of FINAL CUT - sombre - and crapola.