Mark’s reviews and detail are comfortably the best on you tube. However, you need to ‘get it’ in the first place to appreciate the content. Those that don’t get it just tune into the others
Mark I think your ideas about manufacturers and consumers deserving better testing is refreshing. Your journey into the statistics of what constitutes a big enough samples size, how you adequately control for varying conditions during testing, and the basic statistics of mean, median and variance are turning you into a real golf scientist. And I love it.
I’m a high handicapper (28) and just picked up one of these in a 5 wood. Replaced an old ping g30 3 wood that I bought second hand. Was great on the fitting; now I’m looking forward to trying it on the course.
Good fun, Mark. I've never owned a TM FW wood that I can remember. You are correct about them getting replaced less often. I had the same one for 6 years until this year, I just replaced it with a Cleveland Hy-Wood 3+ Hybrid/Fairway wood thingie.
Great video Mark thanks - would love a TaylorMade / Callaway video where you talk about the difference between the two fairways and why one might choose one over the other
Mark, I really trust your reviews, because you are unbiased in letting we viewers know the good the bad and the ugly. The only bias I have seen I your videos was with Mizuno irons, but for most of us that's a given. When I tested the Stealth 3 wood I was hitting it to the right but it was hitting them 15 yards longer than I hit anything else, and it was driver distance for me.
Mark, you are one of my club testing fav's. I NEVER buy a club without seeing your feedback first. The fact that you test folks equipment without them sending it to you speaks volumes for how awesome you are,a man of the people and I kow I greatly appriciate that. I don't often subscribe to people but you are getting your bell rung(not sure if thats online lingo)hahahaha Gong to test a stealth tomorrow.
Hi mark Still playing a callaway steelhead I have had for years its just so reliable hit it 220 off the deck I bought a tm m2 3 wood in 2017 but could never match the consistency I have with the callaway. The real stealth. Keep up the great work. Mark
My 3W is the Mizuno ST200X. It has the super light MFusion shaft which makes it very easy to swing and get the ball off the ground. Love hitting it both off the floor and the tee.
Hit it at the demo day and loved it. 250 off the deck with the 13.5. I just bought a used tour edge xcg4 with a motore shaft I love in it, same as my cb4 5wood. I think that rdx red shaft is just a really good fit and feel for me though. I smoked the stealth driver once they put the rdx from the stealth plus in it at the demo day.
I’m still gaming a RBZ 3 wood and I recon it goes as far as any Fairway wood around on a good strike. I mainly use mine off a tee and I’m tragically bad hitting it off the deck. Def need to work on that would be huge game changer if I had it up my sleeve.
I just love the looks… The Batman thing is really appealing to me. I play an M2 HL 3-wood. Love it. Don’t see myself changing unless I test it out of a 2nd hand bin…like all my other clubs. LOL Honestly, I glad to see you still testing clubs after so many years and refining it over the years. I would agree that better testing would be just better for all companies really. Mark Crossfield…THE REAL STEALTH. LOL
TM 3 Woods are great. Also the hybrids are really special. You can see the Adams golf expertise still coming through. I am not a fan of some of the marketing and agree that they should be more selective who they give it to. Although that's part of their marketing strategy. If someone gets a free driver to test, it's not often they are negative. Alot of companies like Yes men.
my 17yr old tried the stealth driver on launch day against the Sim, Sim 2, Ping 425 and TSi3 drivers. The stealth is all fluff and no stuff (for all the marketing). It didn't even beat the Sim or Sim2 for the price and all the crazy car salesman claims. It just looks ridiculous at address (not my words, my sons and most kids are drawn to flashy and new). Short story is he walked away with a TSi driver that day. Marketing is great, but honestly folks, try them all and get what works best for you regardless of the marketing campaign......thanks for the honesty Mark. keep it up!!!!!
As an 18 handicapper who drives 230 yards I use a 3/5 wood all the time to try and get on in regulation. Thanks Mark I need lots of woods/hybrid reviews but as you say the money 💰 is in Irons and Drivers.
100% agree with what you said Mark. These definitely go unnoticed and under advertised. And I'm so over seeing people on RUclips/insta and now tiktok trying to review a product and convince people to buy it when said people have no business trying to review or advise. Why people take there advice from influencers with 30 handicaps I'll never know 🤦
I have sim max 15 degree and it is hottest 3 wood ever had. I gained 10 yards automatically over a titleist I have but more importantly my dispersement numbers improved dramatically. I can hit low running or high bombers. I love it but, ironically, I hated the 5 wood in sim2 and kept my tsi2 5 wood in the bag. I hit the stealth and wasn’t feeling it so won’t change. Great review as always!
Absolutely agree with you Mark, surely manufacturers want an honest review, if that’s not the case should we be buying them, come on manufacturers (TaylorMade) how can you, why would you ignore, or avoid the best most honest and one of the most followed reviews on RUclips, unless of course you just want yes men.
Great looking fairway wood, little bit like Tsi2 which just looks & feels fantastic - great distance too without being too close to driver or too far from hybrid 3. Nice review Mark, great point on getting fitted for 3 wood - so important especially if you’re more likely to keep it longer, so glad I did👍
Was at a fitting today, looking to bring a 3wood back into my bag. Tried this funny enough. Was very nice. Wasn't the best performing and found it a bit dead/full or something? In fairness I could have flipped a coin by the end of the session to pick any Wood head I tried and would have been happy. In the end looking like a Titleist TSI2 and most shockingly, was getting best performance moving into a regular shaft from stiff. Left the session happy with the output and the decision (yet to pull the trigger on buying) but left me alot of questions for what I thought about Regular vs Stiff shafts. Like I was swinging faster with the Regular and felt I could proper tear into the ball, where with my current stiff setup if I ever try going fast I leak out to the right so bad. Was a great session and well worth it
Most products in the last 5 years are very similar IMPO. I just don’t see much difference in performance as long as you are fit to the shaft and the head speaks to you especially with woods. I do like the look of this 3 wood. Currently I am using the M2 Driver and 3 wood and they do well. Would love to try this 3 wood out however. I do use a three wood a few times a round. Sometimes when I don’t want to if I miss hit a short drive 😁 You hit that farther than my driver 😂🤣😂 Note: I am not a fan of the red face on the Driver or a carbon face but that’s just me.
"The real stealth" I love my m4 3 wood, it sometimes goes as well as my driver but most times not. Loving the club. I had a dabble last year with a ping g425, but felt the loft was too low from the ground, so have gone back to my trusty m4. Great review as always Mark, pays to be honest with products.
Spot on Mark, Koepka still has M2 Hi-launch in the bag. Stenson had Diablo Octane in the bag until the face gave way, think that was 10yrs old by the time it broke! I thought Ray was team Srixon now, he's been playing well without the Muppets!!
I just had a face crack on my M6 3 wood. My ball speed with it was very good, around 165 mph on good hits. Taylormade said they're replacing it with a newer model. I hope it's the Stealth.
Mark, kudos to you and your testing regime. For the record, I have written to some of the ‘voices’ and explained sample size and improving their testing protocols - which I contend were and continue to remain meaningless with a sample size of say five balls. Anyway, keep up the work with integrity.
Hmm, probably not. Ethical standards and a presumption of gullibility on the part of the audience really surprise me from some RUclipsrs: these examples make my point. I was just watching another RUclipsr talk about the stealth fairway (last year’s model). They said “easy to hit off the ground”. They were hitting from a teeing area, when a half tee on which they perched the ball flew up into the air. Say what? Off the ground?!?! C’mon, really! Same RUclipsr when reviewing wedges: I was interested to see one ball go long right, over the green. So, I took particular notice of the landing points of the balls. One missed long right, one missed short of the green, one missed about seven yards right - but on the green…. You get the idea. The RUclipsr hit the green only a couple of times on eight or nine tries. Admittedly, it would be hard to concentrate on hitting balls and talking to camera. You’d know. But when the RUclipsr went on to say about wedge shots sprayed everywhere “tight dispersion”. I gave up. I like your integrity and commitment to fair appraisal of equipment - which is why I and others watch what you do, and pay little attention to the voices and assorted carnival barkers. Keep up the good work.
I will test that. However every time I compare a new 3 wood to my old RBZ, the RBZ wins. A point you touched on, that most Pros stick with a favorite 3 wood, makes me wonder the best old/ever 3 wood.
I picked up an M6 3 wood with skymarks at a bargain. I totally agree, im not the longest hitter but struck well it will go 240, which is as good as a driver off the deck. It is incredible, however, i do not have enough control over it so it only comes out every now and then. I must practice more with it. I would like to see the line up marks on t se if that helps my dispersion overall.
I have a Sim Max 3 (and 5) wood. Best 3 wood I’ve ever played and I’ve been playing nearly 30 years!! Evenflow Riptide 5.5 shaft Smooth and awesome. Playing at D5 swing weight for more control. Love them. Don’t know how much I would gain if went to this Stealth 3 wood, probably a little more forgiveness and maybe a couple of yards. Will be fun comparing them on the simulator !!
I just got this 3 wood. 2 days at the range testing it using my Swing Caddie SC300i launch monitor. I can consistently hit it 285 sometimes 295 region which is wild to me. I hit my driver about 300. I go back and hit some iron shot just to see if my monitor is reading accurate and to my knowledge it is just by knowing how far I hit my irons.
Another excellent video, liking the way you test clubs. I've been watching other RUclips channels where testers hit 3 shots with a couple of different clubs and come to a conclusion after that, needless to say, I don't take these very seriously.
I love your commitment to statistical rigour in your testing. I laugh when I see some vides comparing three sample shots with another three. Even if the club wielder was was a robot, I would not be confident with the numbers.
I still play a epic 3 wood. It fits the gap between my 7 wood (ladies!) and my driver Mavrik. I use the 3 off the fairway and the tee when trouble is in driver range. Getting a longer 3 wood would make the driver redundant! The real stealth.
Just got the driver and love it. I normally hit a 3 hybrid because it’s easier to hit but lose a lot of distance. Might be time to get this 3 wood. The HL version might be better for me too
Love my TM Burner SuperFast 5wood. Come to mention it realised a few years ago. My bag is 100% TM. Even tho the set comprises of clubs purchased at different time. Was not a conscious choice to favour a brand. Styling, price and amateur sense of feel played biggest part. RBZ Driver (White head), R7 irons, rac pearl smoke wedge and Spider monza balero rossa putter. Not that you asked lol
Got fit recently for 3 wood (before these releases) felt a bit cheated tried nearly every club available but all off the ground. Got sold a cobra draw model! Really struggle with it off the tee ! Looking back feel like that was the club they wanted to sell!! Great video keep them coming
Another great video, nice looking club. I use an old sq Nike 3 wood and love it. On your tour pro comment I’m pretty sure I read Patrick cantlay uses a 915 fairway. That’s definitely more than 5 years old and he’s pretty decent round the course 🤔🧐😂
I remember when the TM 3 Rescue first came out, in fact I only recently got rid of mine, was that the first “hybrid”? All I know is when I had a bit of speed, I could really get it out there with that and it was a fairway finder. This new TM Stealth 3 wood seems to have a deeper face than say my G425 3 wood, looks nice but is it as easy to hit off the deck for a mid handicap player. The ping looks more like a hybrid and I have no problem with it, however, nowhere near Mark’s distance. “THE REAL STEALTH”
I like your tests the problem I find with some if the others have crazy swing speeds which I will never get anywhere near they are good entertainment but I would always test. I have a Taylormade M2 5 wood which is great I'm trying to find a 3 wood in the same. I often get further distance with my 3 wood than my driver.
Taylor Made fairway woods are great for the last couple of years I Have an original SIM max but they need to have changeable loft sleeve as they crossover with most handicap golfers drivers.
interesting review. I use my 13 degree 1st generation Epic Flash of the tee a lot and hit it well. I am in the market to replace it and my 16 and 19 degree older Mizuno hybrids to fix the top of my bag (with a new TSi3). Can't wait to go get fitted and will have this on my list. and I agree on the influencers comment. to much $ to buy it because some guy on Twitter uses it. also not getting the best performance that way
Listen carefully...who does some of the best testing period...Mark Crossfield. Who produces some of the most entertaining and informative RUclips videos, Mark Crossfield. Thank you for all the above. Don
My favorite TM 3wood was the vsteel, from the mid 2000s. Used it for many many years. In the last 10+ years I have only used Tour Edge exotics (TEE) as I find them to be longer, better made and less expensive. The titanium faces are soooo long...thanks for the video Mark!
I like TM fairways but I don't like the looks of the matte and gloss intersection on the Stealth. The seam has a shine to it that looks like glue in the fissure, even though it isn't. All gloss or all matte would have been fine. 3:45 shows that view of the glue illusion im talking about.
G’Day Mark, my RBZ 3W & 7W are ……..long & consistent….I know your TM relationship isn’t great, but that what makes your review of them even better. OEM should offer their clubs to us / the everyday golfers for testing. When I hear Joe Blogs PGA player speak of the new tech ( from OEM who pays him ) and could swing a long shovel and get good results, he’s not going to say the product is crap. I want to hear neutral unbiased reviews. All Good Bruh
I have the original SIM and considering switching but not to the stealth. The problem I have is I carry my 3 wood roughly 300 yards off the tee and 285 off the deck at 2200-2500rpm. I almost need something more spiny and higher launching with more control. I see that from Ping and Cobra at the moment.
Hi mark, I’ve just purchased the 13.5 degree model, these ones have a tiny small hole in right in the middle of the face. It seems with other 13.5’s online it’s part of the design, would you know anything about these? The 15 lofts are normal flat faces, but most pics I’ve seen they all have the tiny small hole. Any information would be great thanks
Agree about the”testing”. It’s more an ego thing about getting the clubs and then being wary of saying too much. I asked a couple of guys for a direct comparison between the new Mizuno/cobra/TM/rogue. Just for the fun. No replies. I asked for a reason why after they reviewed a seed ball, and said it was as good as anything , they didn’t play it, what stopped them playing it. No replies. 😂😂
What do I think? You’ve always provided the best reviews out there and that’s why some companies are nervous of your doing them because you’re willing to ask and answer the difficult questions.
Hey Mark, I've noticed you've played stover and teignmouth in your older videos, I'm in torquay and looking to join one of these clubs, which one do you like better? Cheers
Such a good point about testing Mark. Unfortunately the truth is probably a bit of a sad indictment of people in general. I unfollowed someone's channel recently that I have been following on here for years. That's because as the number of subscribers went up, the genuine data went down and the marketing rhetoric bled into the void. From a manufacturer's point of view, you don't care because your product is getting in front of 2 million people. Even if they're not watching the video, they are seeing the finger nail and click bait headline. In some cases the video has to be taken down as it's not factual, but the message is delivered and the damage is done. I don't always agree with your opinions Mark, but value them immensely because they're "your" opinions. And by that I mean they don't change overnight because you were "incentivised" to change your mind.
It tis a pretty club. But then I think my 2019 version of the Cobra Speedzone is too. And I think mine is likely more forgiving if not as long. And that works for me. This is the first 3 wood I could reliably hit off the deck. I guess technically it's not a 3 wood right now as I have it set to 16 degree's because that gives me the perfect distance off the tee for 4 of the holes on the executive course I live on. Still, I hit it longer that many in my little community hit their drivers. And even set to 16 degree's I can flight it down when playing into the breeze easier than about any other club in my bag today. That said, when all the manufacturers come back this year for club day in a couple months, I plan on trying everything including that 3 wood. I've missed that during Covid but I believe we will get it back this year so I'm really looking forward to a day of hitting all the new hotties. lol
I would be more likely to go stealth 3w than the driver. And not just bc of the crown dent on my (perfect) 915fd. By the way, does a 2cm long dent on my crown (dropped a wedge on it, toe-middle-front) affect performance? The rest of the club is 9.5/10 condition.
I hit 265 yards pretty straight swinging normally without adding any speed/force, etc. And i didn't hit 100% center face. This Stealth 3W is a bomber! Ventus Red 5R shaft.
I still have an RBZ stage 2, 3 wood and 5 wood. I experience the same phenomenon and they sound great. I only carry a driver for margin of error on contact.
Agreed that the manufacturers should be more demanding of the kinds of tests. Unfortunately this also requires a little bit of educating the audience, and it's not clear anybody but Mark is actually trying to do that.
The real stealth.. I tested the Sim 2 and will test the stealth however my issue is that they almost go too far.. I game a Cobra Rad speed as (for me) it’s the most consistent fairway wood on the market as far as dispersion front to back is concerned. I hit it around 245/250 and don’t want that rogue shot that suddenly flies 260 (which is what I was getting with Sim 2) great test Bruh 👍👍
It's easy. Taylormade Marketing 101... TM send its clubs to anyone with a hint of a following to do a "review." These personalities need these test clubs because their viewers demand instant reviews and will watch whoever can provide that fix. View count goes up, incentivizing them to participate in that process as early and often as possible. If they give a negative review, they lose participation in the early review program (AKA they get "Crossfielded Out"). If that happens, viewers drop off and they lose income. Therefore, they will only ever give positive reviews (and I acknowledge that TM products are genuinely good most of the time). The personalities are beholden to the marketing beast that is Taylormade golf. The scientific validity of the testing or the accuracy of the results don't matter at all because the reviewers are inherently biased towards the products because their success hinges on participating in the Taylormade review process. Taylormade has successfully filtered out the negative reviews, reducing its need for any testing standards. They care about the marketing, not the testing process.
Mark’s reviews and detail are comfortably the best on you tube. However, you need to ‘get it’ in the first place to appreciate the content. Those that don’t get it just tune into the others
Mark I think your ideas about manufacturers and consumers deserving better testing is refreshing. Your journey into the statistics of what constitutes a big enough samples size, how you adequately control for varying conditions during testing, and the basic statistics of mean, median and variance are turning you into a real golf scientist. And I love it.
AskGolfNut is the best reviewer of golf clubs on RUclips without question.
I’m a high handicapper (28) and just picked up one of these in a 5 wood. Replaced an old ping g30 3 wood that I bought second hand. Was great on the fitting; now I’m looking forward to trying it on the course.
Good fun, Mark. I've never owned a TM FW wood that I can remember. You are correct about them getting replaced less often. I had the same one for 6 years until this year, I just replaced it with a Cleveland Hy-Wood 3+ Hybrid/Fairway wood thingie.
Great video Mark thanks - would love a TaylorMade / Callaway video where you talk about the difference between the two fairways and why one might choose one over the other
I've hit all the new 3 woods and the Stealth Plus was by FAR the longest 3-wood. Good job T.M.
Mark, I really trust your reviews, because you are unbiased in letting we viewers know the good the bad and the ugly. The only bias I have seen I your videos was with Mizuno irons, but for most of us that's a given.
When I tested the Stealth 3 wood I was hitting it to the right but it was hitting them 15 yards longer than I hit anything else, and it was driver distance for me.
Mark, you are one of my club testing fav's. I NEVER buy a club without seeing your feedback first. The fact that you test folks equipment without them sending it to you speaks volumes for how awesome you are,a man of the people and I kow I greatly appriciate that. I don't often subscribe to people but you are getting your bell rung(not sure if thats online lingo)hahahaha Gong to test a stealth tomorrow.
Hi mark
Still playing a callaway steelhead I have had for years its just so reliable hit it 220 off the deck I bought a tm m2 3 wood in 2017 but could never match the consistency I have with the callaway. The real stealth.
Keep up the great work. Mark
My 3W is the Mizuno ST200X. It has the super light MFusion shaft which makes it very easy to swing and get the ball off the ground. Love hitting it both off the floor and the tee.
Hit it at the demo day and loved it. 250 off the deck with the 13.5. I just bought a used tour edge xcg4 with a motore shaft I love in it, same as my cb4 5wood. I think that rdx red shaft is just a really good fit and feel for me though. I smoked the stealth driver once they put the rdx from the stealth plus in it at the demo day.
I’m still gaming a RBZ 3 wood and I recon it goes as far as any Fairway wood around on a good strike. I mainly use mine off a tee and I’m tragically bad hitting it off the deck. Def need to work on that would be huge game changer if I had it up my sleeve.
I just love the looks… The Batman thing is really appealing to me. I play an M2 HL 3-wood. Love it. Don’t see myself changing unless I test it out of a 2nd hand bin…like all my other clubs. LOL
Honestly, I glad to see you still testing clubs after so many years and refining it over the years. I would agree that better testing would be just better for all companies really.
Mark Crossfield…THE REAL STEALTH. LOL
TM 3 Woods are great. Also the hybrids are really special. You can see the Adams golf expertise still coming through.
I am not a fan of some of the marketing and agree that they should be more selective who they give it to. Although that's part of their marketing strategy. If someone gets a free driver to test, it's not often they are negative. Alot of companies like Yes men.
Brooks has got the Taylormade M2 Tour Fairway Wood which was first third of 2017. Bigger headed and lower spinning. Was a monster that thing.
He has the 16.5 HL in the bag. I just saw it this weekend.
So glad I found you. Real reviews for once. Thanks.
Hi mark your absolutely right i have the 3 HL stealth and the 7 wood. They are the longest fairway woods I’ve used in a long time.
Just love your honesty, you tell it like it is.
Love your comments on who they send clubs to test.
my 17yr old tried the stealth driver on launch day against the Sim, Sim 2, Ping 425 and TSi3 drivers. The stealth is all fluff and no stuff (for all the marketing). It didn't even beat the Sim or Sim2 for the price and all the crazy car salesman claims. It just looks ridiculous at address (not my words, my sons and most kids are drawn to flashy and new). Short story is he walked away with a TSi driver that day. Marketing is great, but honestly folks, try them all and get what works best for you regardless of the marketing campaign......thanks for the honesty Mark. keep it up!!!!!
As an 18 handicapper who drives 230 yards I use a 3/5 wood all the time to try and get on in regulation. Thanks Mark I need lots of woods/hybrid reviews but as you say the money 💰 is in Irons and Drivers.
100% agree with what you said Mark. These definitely go unnoticed and under advertised. And I'm so over seeing people on RUclips/insta and now tiktok trying to review a product and convince people to buy it when said people have no business trying to review or advise. Why people take there advice from influencers with 30 handicaps I'll never know 🤦
I have sim max 15 degree and it is hottest 3 wood ever had. I gained 10 yards automatically over a titleist I have but more importantly my dispersement numbers improved dramatically. I can hit low running or high bombers. I love it but, ironically, I hated the 5 wood in sim2 and kept my tsi2 5 wood in the bag. I hit the stealth and wasn’t feeling it so won’t change. Great review as always!
Absolutely agree with you Mark, surely manufacturers want an honest review, if that’s not the case should we be buying them, come on manufacturers (TaylorMade) how can you, why would you ignore, or avoid the best most honest and one of the most followed reviews on RUclips, unless of course you just want yes men.
I'm still using the Cobra LTD "space my port" 3 wood that Mark really like during his review 6 years ago. It's really long.
bomber for sure
Fun to see you with the Stealth plus. It’s stealthy plus more stealthy bits. Bet you get your 280 with it.
Great looking fairway wood, little bit like Tsi2 which just looks & feels fantastic - great distance too without being too close to driver or too far from hybrid 3. Nice review Mark, great point on getting fitted for 3 wood - so important especially if you’re more likely to keep it longer, so glad I did👍
I really do enjoy the sarcastic comments on twist face when you hit it off-centre. Makes me laugh every time
Was at a fitting today, looking to bring a 3wood back into my bag. Tried this funny enough. Was very nice. Wasn't the best performing and found it a bit dead/full or something? In fairness I could have flipped a coin by the end of the session to pick any Wood head I tried and would have been happy. In the end looking like a Titleist TSI2 and most shockingly, was getting best performance moving into a regular shaft from stiff.
Left the session happy with the output and the decision (yet to pull the trigger on buying) but left me alot of questions for what I thought about Regular vs Stiff shafts. Like I was swinging faster with the Regular and felt I could proper tear into the ball, where with my current stiff setup if I ever try going fast I leak out to the right so bad. Was a great session and well worth it
5:08 Ryan Fox also uses a TM fairway with being team Srixon (He'd hit anything a bloody mile)
Can u do stealth plus as well?
Most products in the last 5 years are very similar IMPO. I just don’t see much difference in performance as long as you are fit to the shaft and the head speaks to you especially with woods. I do like the look of this 3 wood. Currently I am using the M2 Driver and 3 wood and they do well. Would love to try this 3 wood out however. I do use a three wood a few times a round. Sometimes when I don’t want to if I miss hit a short drive 😁
You hit that farther than my driver 😂🤣😂
Note: I am not a fan of the red face on the Driver or a carbon face but that’s just me.
"The real stealth" I love my m4 3 wood, it sometimes goes as well as my driver but most times not. Loving the club. I had a dabble last year with a ping g425, but felt the loft was too low from the ground, so have gone back to my trusty m4. Great review as always Mark, pays to be honest with products.
Spot on Mark, Koepka still has M2 Hi-launch in the bag. Stenson had Diablo Octane in the bag until the face gave way, think that was 10yrs old by the time it broke! I thought Ray was team Srixon now, he's been playing well without the Muppets!!
I just had a face crack on my M6 3 wood. My ball speed with it was very good, around 165 mph on good hits. Taylormade said they're replacing it with a newer model. I hope it's the Stealth.
Mark, great video and a great faiwaywood. I totally agree with you and the one thing I am missing is the ajustable loft of -+ 1,5 degree down and up.
Mark, kudos to you and your testing regime. For the record, I have written to some of the ‘voices’ and explained sample size and improving their testing protocols - which I contend were and continue to remain meaningless with a sample size of say five balls. Anyway, keep up the work with integrity.
They don’t care. Click clicks clicks is all some “experts” want. It’s funny.
Hmm, probably not.
Ethical standards and a presumption of gullibility on the part of the audience really surprise me from some RUclipsrs: these examples make my point.
I was just watching another RUclipsr talk about the stealth fairway (last year’s model). They said “easy to hit off the ground”. They were hitting from a teeing area, when a half tee on which they perched the ball flew up into the air. Say what? Off the ground?!?! C’mon, really!
Same RUclipsr when reviewing wedges: I was interested to see one ball go long right, over the green. So, I took particular notice of the landing points of the balls. One missed long right, one missed short of the green, one missed about seven yards right - but on the green…. You get the idea. The RUclipsr hit the green only a couple of times on eight or nine tries.
Admittedly, it would be hard to concentrate on hitting balls and talking to camera. You’d know.
But when the RUclipsr went on to say about wedge shots sprayed everywhere “tight dispersion”. I gave up.
I like your integrity and commitment to fair appraisal of equipment - which is why I and others watch what you do, and pay little attention to the voices and assorted carnival barkers.
Keep up the good work.
I will test that. However every time I compare a new 3 wood to my old RBZ, the RBZ wins.
A point you touched on, that most Pros stick with a favorite 3 wood, makes me wonder the best old/ever 3 wood.
Most reviews are just long drive contests, they offer nothing for the average golfer. This review makes perfect sense.
I picked up an M6 3 wood with skymarks at a bargain. I totally agree, im not the longest hitter but struck well it will go 240, which is as good as a driver off the deck. It is incredible, however, i do not have enough control over it so it only comes out every now and then. I must practice more with it. I would like to see the line up marks on t se if that helps my dispersion overall.
Just cracked the face on my RBZ 3 wood today, it was the oldest club in my bag. Had to go and picked up the Stealth right away.
I have a Sim Max 3 (and 5) wood. Best 3 wood I’ve ever played and I’ve been playing nearly 30 years!! Evenflow Riptide 5.5 shaft Smooth and awesome. Playing at D5 swing weight for more control. Love them. Don’t know how much I would gain if went to this Stealth 3 wood, probably a little more forgiveness and maybe a couple of yards. Will be fun comparing them on the simulator !!
I just got this 3 wood. 2 days at the range testing it using my Swing Caddie SC300i launch monitor. I can consistently hit it 285 sometimes 295 region which is wild to me. I hit my driver about 300. I go back and hit some iron shot just to see if my monitor is reading accurate and to my knowledge it is just by knowing how far I hit my irons.
Another excellent video, liking the way you test clubs. I've been watching other RUclips channels where testers hit 3 shots with a couple of different clubs and come to a conclusion after that, needless to say, I don't take these very seriously.
I love your commitment to statistical rigour in your testing. I laugh when I see some vides comparing three sample shots with another three. Even if the club wielder was was a robot, I would not be confident with the numbers.
I still play a epic 3 wood. It fits the gap between my 7 wood (ladies!) and my driver Mavrik. I use the 3 off the fairway and the tee when trouble is in driver range. Getting a longer 3 wood would make the driver redundant! The real stealth.
Just ordered the 16.5 loft essentially a 4 wood. I have Jetspeed 3 wood and 5 wood which are 10 years old so decided to splurge
Surprised you didn’t review the Stealth Plus as well
Thank you for continuing to challenge the standard that golf reviews are held to
Someone has too. Others simply just want clicks along with the manufacturers unfortunately
Just got the driver and love it. I normally hit a 3 hybrid because it’s easier to hit but lose a lot of distance. Might be time to get this 3 wood. The HL version might be better for me too
I have the sim Ti rocket 3 wood and love it. If I left my driver at home I'd probably score better just using it as a tee club.
Love my TM Burner SuperFast 5wood. Come to mention it realised a few years ago. My bag is 100% TM. Even tho the set comprises of clubs purchased at different time. Was not a conscious choice to favour a brand. Styling, price and amateur sense of feel played biggest part. RBZ Driver (White head), R7 irons, rac pearl smoke wedge and Spider monza balero rossa putter. Not that you asked lol
Got fit recently for 3 wood (before these releases) felt a bit cheated tried nearly every club available but all off the ground. Got sold a cobra draw model! Really struggle with it off the tee ! Looking back feel like that was the club they wanted to sell!! Great video keep them coming
Yep theyll do that. I remember a guy trying to sell me a Nike Red Driver at Edwin Watts. I dont buy Nike anything
I've a Sim 2 max dtype 3wood Mark and I agree with you Taylormade fairways are defo Bombers. 👍⛳👍⛳
Another great video, nice looking club. I use an old sq Nike 3 wood and love it. On your tour pro comment I’m pretty sure I read Patrick cantlay uses a 915 fairway. That’s definitely more than 5 years old and he’s pretty decent round the course 🤔🧐😂
I remember when the TM 3 Rescue first came out, in fact I only recently got rid of mine, was that the first “hybrid”? All I know is when I had a bit of speed, I could really get it out there with that and it was a fairway finder. This new TM Stealth 3 wood seems to have a deeper face than say my G425 3 wood, looks nice but is it as easy to hit off the deck for a mid handicap player. The ping looks more like a hybrid and I have no problem with it, however, nowhere near Mark’s distance. “THE REAL STEALTH”
I still have an original v steel 3 wood, in my opinion the best fairway they have ever made, I’m not planning changing it anytime soon!!
They even still have 'V-steel' written on the side of that new stealth 3 wood
I like your tests the problem I find with some if the others have crazy swing speeds which I will never get anywhere near they are good entertainment but I would always test. I have a Taylormade M2 5 wood which is great I'm trying to find a 3 wood in the same. I often get further distance with my 3 wood than my driver.
Taylor Made fairway woods are great for the last couple of years I Have an original SIM max but they need to have changeable loft sleeve as they crossover with most handicap golfers drivers.
Have you tested tour edge? Do well on the senior tours.
interesting review. I use my 13 degree 1st generation Epic Flash of the tee a lot and hit it well. I am in the market to replace it and my 16 and 19 degree older Mizuno hybrids to fix the top of my bag (with a new TSi3). Can't wait to go get fitted and will have this on my list. and I agree on the influencers comment. to much $ to buy it because some guy on Twitter uses it. also not getting the best performance that way
Listen carefully...who does some of the best testing period...Mark Crossfield. Who produces some of the most entertaining and informative RUclips videos, Mark Crossfield. Thank you for all the above. Don
Best and honest tester is RICK SHIELS,BY FAR
My favorite TM 3wood was the vsteel, from the mid 2000s. Used it for many many years. In the last 10+ years I have only used Tour Edge exotics (TEE) as I find them to be longer, better made and less expensive. The titanium faces are soooo long...thanks for the video Mark!
Aye my SIM 3 Wood is a bomber…… do the regulators check face tech on 3 woods as much as on drivers. Ball flies of the face! Love it! 😁
Stealth hybrids are incredible!
Would like to see you out on the golf course with it mark 👊🏻👍🏻
I like TM fairways but I don't like the looks of the matte and gloss intersection on the Stealth. The seam has a shine to it that looks like glue in the fissure, even though it isn't. All gloss or all matte would have been fine. 3:45 shows that view of the glue illusion im talking about.
I’m gaming the Sim2 Titanium, I bet that bombs further…. Worth a test! My mate is using the Sim2 Titanium Rocket 🚀, that badger is crazy long!
Nice video mark. You using the Srixon ZStar diamond ball now? Why did you change?
@markcrossfield have you tried the high launch 3 wood ?
The TM FW woods are the only TM clubs I would actually look at playing.
I'm still playing the original rocketballz tour at 13.5 degrees. No reason to change.
G’Day Mark, my RBZ 3W & 7W are ……..long & consistent….I know your TM relationship isn’t great, but that what makes your review of them even better. OEM should offer their clubs to us / the everyday golfers for testing. When I hear Joe Blogs PGA player speak of the new tech ( from OEM who pays him ) and could swing a long shovel and get good results, he’s not going to say the product is crap. I want to hear neutral unbiased reviews. All Good Bruh
I have the original SIM and considering switching but not to the stealth. The problem I have is I carry my 3 wood roughly 300 yards off the tee and 285 off the deck at 2200-2500rpm. I almost need something more spiny and higher launching with more control. I see that from Ping and Cobra at the moment.
Hi mark, I’ve just purchased the 13.5 degree model, these ones have a tiny small hole in right in the middle of the face. It seems with other 13.5’s online it’s part of the design, would you know anything about these? The 15 lofts are normal flat faces, but most pics I’ve seen they all have the tiny small hole. Any information would be great thanks
Agree about the”testing”. It’s more an ego thing about getting the clubs and then being wary of saying too much. I asked a couple of guys for a direct comparison between the new Mizuno/cobra/TM/rogue. Just for the fun. No replies. I asked for a reason why after they reviewed a seed ball, and said it was as good as anything , they didn’t play it, what stopped them playing it. No replies. 😂😂
Mark crossfield one of the only RUclipsr golf pros that tell the truth no matter what brand he uses.
❤️ my Stealth woods, but the MCs are the real stars in my bag 💯
What do I think? You’ve always provided the best reviews out there and that’s why some companies are nervous of your doing them because you’re willing to ask and answer the difficult questions.
Great vid bruh
It's the real stealth. Looks so much better than the driver.
Hey Mark, I've noticed you've played stover and teignmouth in your older videos, I'm in torquay and looking to join one of these clubs, which one do you like better? Cheers
Great video Mark! Guess who used a TM SIM 3w from 277 yards to win the Sony in the playoff? Hideki
BTW, can you tell us what shaft was in that Stealth 3w? Looks like hzardous red?
Best and honest tester is RICK SHIELS BY far.imo!
Just replaced my Titleist 915 3Wd and 5Wd with last years SIM Max D 3Wd and SIM Max 5Wd for the new season.
Such a good point about testing Mark. Unfortunately the truth is probably a bit of a sad indictment of people in general. I unfollowed someone's channel recently that I have been following on here for years. That's because as the number of subscribers went up, the genuine data went down and the marketing rhetoric bled into the void. From a manufacturer's point of view, you don't care because your product is getting in front of 2 million people. Even if they're not watching the video, they are seeing the finger nail and click bait headline. In some cases the video has to be taken down as it's not factual, but the message is delivered and the damage is done. I don't always agree with your opinions Mark, but value them immensely because they're "your" opinions. And by that I mean they don't change overnight because you were "incentivised" to change your mind.
It tis a pretty club. But then I think my 2019 version of the Cobra Speedzone is too. And I think mine is likely more forgiving if not as long. And that works for me. This is the first 3 wood I could reliably hit off the deck. I guess technically it's not a 3 wood right now as I have it set to 16 degree's because that gives me the perfect distance off the tee for 4 of the holes on the executive course I live on. Still, I hit it longer that many in my little community hit their drivers. And even set to 16 degree's I can flight it down when playing into the breeze easier than about any other club in my bag today. That said, when all the manufacturers come back this year for club day in a couple months, I plan on trying everything including that 3 wood. I've missed that during Covid but I believe we will get it back this year so I'm really looking forward to a day of hitting all the new hotties. lol
Still have my TM Burner Superfast 5 wood from 08/09ish🔥🔥
I would be more likely to go stealth 3w than the driver. And not just bc of the crown dent on my (perfect) 915fd.
By the way, does a 2cm long dent on my crown (dropped a wedge on it, toe-middle-front) affect performance? The rest of the club is 9.5/10 condition.
Mark, can you do a video explaining standard deviation?
Dude just Google it. It's a math term, not a golf term.
Have you ever tried Sub70 golf clubs?
Would like to see that against the mavrik equivalent.
I hit 265 yards pretty straight swinging normally without adding any speed/force, etc. And i didn't hit 100% center face. This Stealth 3W is a bomber! Ventus Red 5R shaft.
I used to have the stage 2 RBZ. My issue was that most of the time it went further than my driver! 🤣
I still have an RBZ stage 2, 3 wood and 5 wood. I experience the same phenomenon and they sound great. I only carry a driver for margin of error on contact.
@@michaelparsons7536 They are not called Rocket Ballz for a reason! Haha
Ping G425 look brilliant
Agreed that the manufacturers should be more demanding of the kinds of tests. Unfortunately this also requires a little bit of educating the audience, and it's not clear anybody but Mark is actually trying to do that.
Are you using the z-star diamond now?
The real stealth.. I tested the Sim 2 and will test the stealth however my issue is that they almost go too far.. I game a Cobra Rad speed as (for me) it’s the most consistent fairway wood on the market as far as dispersion front to back is concerned. I hit it around 245/250 and don’t want that rogue shot that suddenly flies 260 (which is what I was getting with Sim 2) great test Bruh 👍👍
Cobra F9 fairway reshafted for me. Not quite as long as the stock shaft but string straight.
It's easy. Taylormade Marketing 101...
TM send its clubs to anyone with a hint of a following to do a "review." These personalities need these test clubs because their viewers demand instant reviews and will watch whoever can provide that fix. View count goes up, incentivizing them to participate in that process as early and often as possible.
If they give a negative review, they lose participation in the early review program (AKA they get "Crossfielded Out"). If that happens, viewers drop off and they lose income. Therefore, they will only ever give positive reviews (and I acknowledge that TM products are genuinely good most of the time). The personalities are beholden to the marketing beast that is Taylormade golf.
The scientific validity of the testing or the accuracy of the results don't matter at all because the reviewers are inherently biased towards the products because their success hinges on participating in the Taylormade review process. Taylormade has successfully filtered out the negative reviews, reducing its need for any testing standards. They care about the marketing, not the testing process.
Still using my SLDR fairway wood. Haven't hit anything thats made me wanna switch, especially for the prices of clubs nowadays