Five Speed Swapping Your F100? Here's Everything You Need To Know.
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So have I
Man I've been watching your channel for quite some time (green tail gate days if I remember right). Im proud of the work you do and the fact you're still here, I hope to see another 5 years.
Haha yes green tailgate! Thank you for sticking around. I sure plan to be here in five years. Hopefully I’ll have finished a project by then haha.
I appreciate watching your video's. I sadly sold my first truck (75 f250 390.) The 93 f350 4x4 frame swap idea was just too much for not having a shop. Ended up getting a 89xlt lariat Brick nose 4x4 IDI(factory ac, power locks,power windows, its a gem.) Watching the last few videos of the painting and rebuild of the suspension makes me wanna get an old 2wd Dent again or even a Bump and swap my extra IDI into one.
I have been watching you since open headers at high school and 2 inch pipes! Keep it coming
The zf5 was put in f-250's and f-350's from 87-97 although some 87s had 4 speeds. There were 2 models. the ZF5-S42 ran from 88-94 and the ZF5-S47 ran from 95-97 and could handle a little more torque than the s42. There were 3 different bellhousing patterns and the bellhousing is non removable. They came in a small block that fits the 300 inline 6, 302, and 351w. This one can be identified by the internal slave cylinder that rides on the input shaft. The big block or 460 zf5 has an external slave cylinder as does the diesel zf5. The big block will fit on the 370, 429, 460 and 514. The diesel zf5 will fit 6.9 and 7.3 idis as well as the 7.3 powerstroke. It can be difficult to tell the difference between the big block gas and diesel zf5 and the best way is to measure the distance between the upper bolt holes on the bellhousing. I am fairly certain that the 460 had wider hole spacing than the diesel ones. The zf5 also came behind the 4.6, 5.4 and 6.8 mod motors but those are not as easy to find since they were in production for a shorter amount of time.
Yep, you can pull a friggin freight train with those zf5's. I know my 2 f3shitty's never needed anything but throw out bearings
good info i want to replace my light duty m50d with something tougher but it did last 230,000 miles with the 300
Correct. Small block ZF5s were only in F250s and 350s, but were still relatively common. You'd find them behind the 300 and the 351w. They weren't in F-150s or Broncos since those came with the M5OD-R2.
The nice thing about the ZF5 and M5OD is they also came in 4x4 configurations, which a lot of the other 5 speeds didn't.
I swapped a ZF5 into my '85 Bronco behind my built up 300, and love it.
I believe the ZF6 was introduced with the modular engines - 6.8 and diesels. I don’t believe they were placed behind 4.6 or 5.4 engines.
A very thorough and informative video! Thanks Craig! 😁👍
Really enjoy your videos. Absolutely love your F100 & the Galaxy’s!! Keep it up 👍
It’s 10 degrees today where I live, near Boston. Just make footage. Love your RUclips channel. I’ll be putting more parts in this weather on my car parked right outside on the street lol
Watching your vids over the past couple years have really made me miss my 77 for real :/
@7:04 I laughed my ass off when you said "he was a wealthy man" 🤣
Extremely interested in your wheel set up. Trucks looks 👌 great.
Got a 79 dent and I'm looking for that sporty/muscle wheel look you got going on. Thanks!
Thanks for the info. Great videos 👍 hell yeah.
Great Tremec product information.
Probably worth noting that the zf5 came on 7.5L 460 BBF motors too, for all the 460/429 motor guys also
I appreciate the (fast forward-able commercial) enough I watched and... huh, looks like I need to give @PBblaster another try... Thanks for the info on the 300! So much info so fast, defiantly a save for later video. Ha ha
Love your videos
Picking up my 74 f100 swb 3 on the tree tomorrow, 5 speed swap is in the near future!
I just found you channel the other day and just subbed have been watching your back videos I had a 76 F100 short box regular cab mildly built 360 automatic I got rid of it about 20 years ago it's been sitting in the same spot where I dropped it off I'm getting ready to go back and see if I can get it back I love that truck should have never got rid of it going to need a full restro though I'm sure. And if I can't get that one back I'm going to start looking for another one to buy.
This video was really helpful im swapping a t5 for my 3 on the tree in my 68 c10
Sweet ride hope everything goes well
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You can use it afterwards on fence-lines etc, kills vegetation, but not the roots... or around my yard cars... LOL.
Hey could you make and update on your bucket seats... Do you like them.
The 99-04 v6 t5 has a torque rating around 300-330 ft lbs and is the same as a fox body trans. The only difference is having to swap tail shafts to accommodate the speedo you want to use since they use a magnetic style. Just for those that are having trouble looking for a fox body t5. Also the 94/95 t5 has a longer input shaft, and the 4 cyl t5 has a narrow input shaft. So if you have a fox body gt input shaft laying around, you can swap them.
You can purchase all these clutch items on LMC trucks, I rebuilt all the linkage on my ford using them.
Love your videos a lot as we had a 1964 Ford Galaxy growing up. Learned how to drive in it. Question 🙋♀️ do you ever allow fans to visit to see your cars?
Not my house personally, but i go to a good amount of shows I take my truck to and really whatever car runs at the time.
Good stuff & love the truck
Thank you!
Looking good Craig!
Thanks man
Did you use the F100 Clutch and Pressure Plate? I am building a 66 F100 over on my channel, 5 speed maybe later. Good video
Been looking into swapping my dad and I’s F100. Thank you for this Craig. It’s been a heck of a day and this made it a lot better ✊🏼
Glad I could help out man. Take a step back and relax a bit. Enjoy.
@@Thecraig909 Will do brother. Have a good rest of your day! 🤟🏼
So I have a 360 fe and want to put a tremec in it. Would the new ones be able to withstand the 360 or would it have to be a zf5? (Want to stay away from hydraulic parts) Also I heard you talk about the fe but felt like there was a little lack of info.
I'm about to pick up a WC T5 from a 2010 v6 mustang. Quick question. what clutch kit do i need? Just a factory mustang replacement or something different? Thanks.
Hi, you may have covered this I a video that I missed it, do you use leaf springs or any rear suspension upgrades? I saw a big burnout you did in the video that looked like there was no wheel hop. I have a 1966 F250 with old leaf springs and has serious wheel hop I would like to fix. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks for the videos.
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Hey Craig… great stuff on your channel…!! Wanted to pick you brain and ask if you remember if your truck has a 164 tooth flywheel and an 11” clutch or if it’s a 157 tooth with a 10.5” clutch…? I’m about to do a T5 swap in my 71 F100 Custom with a 302 with a 3 on the tree like yours…
Thank you in advance if you remember…
A 427 Stroker with a ZF behind it in big body Ford sounds like a nice project
I run a ZF-5/302 combo in my 69 Bronco on 37's, it works well for me! Not sure I would put it in a street truck with the 5.72 first gear though.
Thank you. An excellent overview. I do have a question: what modifications did you have to do to the drive shaft? I have a 1966 F100 long bed, with a 300 engine, and 3 speed on the column.
For the most part it was just shortened. That was really it.
@@Thecraig909 Thank you.
Just bought a 1971 f100 custom longbed , wanting to mod but don’t know where to start, what do you think I should start with?
The ZF5 was introduced in 1987, there was 2 versions...the ones that bolt to the 7.3 or 6.9 idi's are the same as the7.5 (460) ones...the other version was for the 4.9 (300 inline 6), 5.0 (302) and 5.8 (351W only)...good luck finding a ZF5 bolted up to the 4.9, they usually had the 4 spds...my 90 is the 4.9 4 spd.
Wow, just what I want to do to my '72 f100 long bed, with a 360 V8. Currently it has a 4 speed auto from a mid to late 70s f100 and i'm really looking forward to swap the trans to a 5 speed. No 4 speed manual!
Where did you get the bushings for the Z-bar I am in need in some
Will that adapter work with the t18 to t5 conversion?
ive got a 1970 E-200 all stock 302 / C4 . What manual overdrive trans should I use for it ?
Some of those T Birds are no joke!
Tr3650 is in mid 2001-2004 mustang gt as well. It's in my 2002. Sucks finding short throw and stuff bc it's different than the 05-up ones as well
I have a 1964 Galaxie with a 460 in it. It has right at 450hp and of course more torque than that. It has a C6 in it now. In your opinion what would be the best 5 speed for that car?
I'm looking for a Good " Sporty " 5spd for my 72 2wd swb with a 460, any Suggestions?
I recently purchased a 71 f100 it has four speed in the floor it was 3 on the tree, my question is I was looking for the 3550 or Tko found the tko but he wanted 3k for it little much right now, he has a T5 WC any difference with the Bellhousing and do I still need the plate from mdl and what clutch setup do you recommend.
What’s the color of your truck called and where can I get some for touch ups my 70 is the same color
Maybe I missed it but what is the height of that Hurst shift lever? Thank you
i want to put a zf5 behind my 360 FE but im having a hard time finding an adapter plate. might have to get the machine shop to make one?
Swap in a nv4500
Ha Ha I jinxed you, we don't even have snow, well for the moment, Good info in this video by the way
Thanks for all your videos.
What did you do for drive line?
My F100 Is a 306/Tremec 3550/ Ford 9" 4.10 Gears
@@Thecraig909 I'm in process of 11 cv ifs swap ony 70 f100 then next plan on late mustang irs or explorer irs swap
So wanting to swap my f100 to a 302 will my transmission works for it. From the inline 6
Can I run this trans on a 390 fe?
Would a t5 hold up to a stock 390?
What's the part number for the heim joint and all thread
If I put a crate 351W in my 67 F100 and buy a new TKX will my original bell housing from the 352 work?
I need a throwout bearing for my 302 f100, I got a transmission from a 5 speed mustang, but the mustang one is too short. Does anybody know any throwout bearings to use
Will the 3650 work with my 390 fe I know I need a adapter plate. Just wondering its a 390.30 over cammed headers intake
I’d have to look more at the dimensions on the front of the transmission. But if it has a 7” imput shaft length and a 10 spline imput shaft I don’t see why it wouldn’t work. You’d just have to have that adapter in. I’d look into that tho for sure. Not a bad idea
@@Thecraig909 ok sound good the transmission I got it came out of a 2003 cobra mustang.
What five speed would you recommend putting in a 69 nova with a mildly built 350 small block?
World class T5 out of a camaro would be a solid cheaper choice
Crag I got a five speed from an 85 ford truck it bolted up in my 66 truck
Question if anyone can answer! I just bought a 1981 Ford F100 4.9L with a 3-speed automatic transmission, want to put a 5-speed manual. Will a adapter
how big of a pain would it be to swap a 4.6 2v and 5-speed manual from an '03 mustang gt into a '68 f100 long bed with a 360 and 3-speed automatic c6?
The t3650 is also in the 01-04 mustang GTs
Thanks for the video… I think I’m gonna go with the GT40P out of an explorer and a world class T5 to start with and I might do something else in the future… That 51 year old flat tappet 302 and 3 speed with a shity floor shifter has gotta go…😂 You basically answered all my questions in one video…👍🏼 I think I definitely want to stay with the 302 block because that’s what my 72 came with but I may build a stroker in the future and a better transmission.
I need help finding a 5spd for a '68 ford f100 390 v8
Where you located?
Just wondering where to find bushings for the z bar?
Lmc truck
Any knowledge on the 300 (4.9)?
The 300 has the same bellhousing as a 302, 289, 351, so everything he said also applies to the 300
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I know im late but my auestion is this how do you convert a ford auto flywheel to a manual flywheel
The 351w/zf5 combo has a z-bar clutch too????
The small block ZF-5 runs a hydraulic slave cylinder.
If one do these fits a 302, then it can fro a 289 right?
Yes
As long as it’s a 6 bolt bellhousing not a 5
The tko500 and 600 have multiple shifter locations. I tko 500 swapped my dentside f100 and did a cable clutch conversion and used the most foward shifter cup on the rear shifter location.
EDIT....
there is a cable clutch conversion kit for these trucks that is bolt in and warrentied. I have a McCloud 700hp clutch that I can push the pedal down with 1 finger.
That sounds actually pretty rad. Didn’t know about that conversion. Feel free to link to it if you have the link.
@@Thecraig909 www.moderndriveline.com/shop/clutch-cable-kits/61-79-f100-truck-clutch-cable-kit/
I used the old school 3 speed shift lever turned around backwards and it clears the bench seat just fine.
Whould this work on my 76 ford with a 390
Never mind I was mid weigh through the video when I ask that
i hope you dialed in that bell housing
What if I have a 7.5l 460. Any ideas what 5 speed I would need
I’m pretty positive it would be a ZF 5 as well. I’ll check back on that when I know more.
@@Thecraig909 okay sweet thank you. Been looking to swap it for a bit from my 3 speed automatic.
The zf5 between the 460 and diesel are different. Another option is the m5odr2, they came behind 300 and 302 sbf in an F150. More of a truck transmission but for a bargain it could be done. Hydraulic clutch swap was easy when converting from auto. I didn’t have the z-bar set up.
I’ll be t5 swapping my 78 camaro
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Yes blaster works,but i hate the smell much prefer the smell of wd-40,specially if you get it on hands or clothes otherwise it good rust buster.my issue with my beloved wd-40 is it always run out of propellant.wish they made a spray bottle or bulk jug.which they may have.well standard shift is way better anyday than auto.plus you cant bump start auto.yup good info craig.snookie pa.
im not being mean here but the thunderbird super coupes were the only tbirds to come with a 5 speed [unless you count the 80s 2.3 turbo coupes] and they are all supercharged 3.8 v6s, all the transmissions were asynchros. i use to own 3 80s tbird turbo coupes but am now building 2 90s tbird super coupes [both 5 speed] and an 89 f150 swb with a 351w and 5 speed
what i meant to say is all the 5 speeds in the super coupes were a m5r2 which is basically the same as the m5r1 5 speeds that youd find in a late 80s to 1996 f150
Real question did you throw your first snowball this year
I actually did funny enough
Idk why I’m watching this when I don’t own an f100 or even know much about cars
Cause you liked the way the car looked so you watched the video
Because its an F1-Honey
Me and my dad and my brother pulled the automatic out of his 1977 Chevy bonanza c20 and put a 5 speed manual out of a 1993 Chevy Silverado
In it
5spd would be way cool 😎
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What about a 79 F150 4x4 with a 400m that happens to have an automatic transmission but someone put a ratchet shifter in, so the floor is already cut? Any advice here? (Not just Craig, anyone with ideas)
You can either ad a universal hydraulic clutch pedal from someone like willwood then just get the manual bellhousing for a stick. If I remember right I think the 351M and 400 share the same bellhousing style as the Cleveland’s. Or you could try to find the factory pedals out of one of those trucks but the Z bar would be a pain to find.
@@Thecraig909 they're 385 pattern not SBF. I think TMeyer has a kit to adapt a ZF5 to the 351M/400
Highly important note!
ZF transmission configurations must be subdivided by: big block/small block; 4x2/4x4, with/without mechanical speedometer gear (87-91 were mechanical)
Also applies to M5OD-R2, disregarding big block options.
I am a sub for many years, not always positive but always honest an honest will get you home. What makes the "Burnouts" so popular and to do it to the daily driver with the valves talking about coming out of the valve covers.... I'm 73 and in some ways, ahead of you on mechanics but dollar to dollar, you whip me hands down on the small block ford or those said transmissions. My one 63 ford hardtop came with the 289.... I'm thinking, don't believe it was the three o two, all factory but behind it was a T85 close ratio trans... a three speed. When you lifted it up into your arms, you had a load in them. I could shot put the common old three speeds and they mostly died from my foot to clutch.... not this T85.... what made it so sweet was 45 in first and 90 in second.... third was just the same as any trans with the one to one. Have you heard of those transmissions as they were popular in police cars of that era
1989-95 Thunderbird Super Coupe had 3.8 liter V-6 with a Eaton Super Charger. Auto or Manual. Manual Transmission were Mazda built.
1989-93. Thunderbird were 3.8 NA V-6 and 5.0 V-8 Auto Transmission Only 1993-97 Thunderbird were 3.8 NA and 4.6 V-8 Auto Transmission Only.
Anytime you see a 88-97 F350-F250 with the 5.8 and a manual you’ll normally find a SBF Zf5 the 302s and 300s had the Mazda 5 speed that’s trash
I've got a 1990 f150 with a 5.0 and a zf5
Hi are you doing buddy good I hope you are good take care buddy
I'll keep my 4L60 in my '71 highboy.
The manual trans out of a 98 ford f150 will work way easier and you get a master and slave clutch
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Idk why there is so much zf5 talk in the comments but it’s not really a great swap for a half ton street truck, they are very HD and so has granny first gear, 5.72:1 on gas models which effectively makes it have 4 useful gears, 2nd, 3rd, direct and OD, not a great candidate for a light truck that wants to go fast. They also have very bulky, truckish shifting.
Don't think it was 'weight 'that made my FE scatter that t5 all over the road.
My friend, do yourself a favor and replace the rusty brake lines on the 65 f100 better yet convert to a double bowl master cylinder, its no fun when even a small pin whole can have drastic results.
1 day I might switch my 150 to a stick shift..for now.just going to hunt down a big block and drop it in....it six with no truck to drive.