Whenever you post an oob I enjoy watching not to actually do the oob yet to see how the game designers engineer their creation. Possibly create your own game.
Part of what I love about froggy videos is how much you try to make it easier for others to understand (like explaining why you do certain actions in a certain order, showing multiple methods / setups, mentioning the required minimum loadout/class/subclass - while also noting when navigator just makes it easier vs necessary.) As far as routes to go OOB, in some zones there are many ways to get there, but I notice in your videos you always try to show the simplest way or easiest way to be successful. You teach as someone who believes each player is capable of learning and achieving these results. And that is a glorious thing. You honor your fellow guardians, sir
It's definitely a big goal of mine. I hope people can watch these videos and gain the ability to find their own routes. Or at the very least, feel comfortable attempting the routes on their own. I'll generally run a route many times, trying to see what issues you're likely to run into, and how to recover from small problems. Never fun to be 30 minutes into a route, and having to start fresh because you missed a jump. I also love the collaborative nature of it these days. For the more complicated stuff, we sometimes have like a dozen people contributing ideas and little pieces of the route. It's interesting to see how different people approach it. Small things can make a big difference for consistency. There's certainly a place for spectacle with out of map stuff. I do enjoy watching speed runners zip around with precise skates and whatnot, but it's also a bit less approachable for beginners. That's one of the reasons I like to keep mistakes in the video. It doesn't have to be perfect to get you there :)
Hey. I think you already know about this, but I ́d like to mention the strength of the new arc hunter super when it comes to getting out of certain boundries. Any wall you can shoot through, you can also yeet the arc super and get out. The 2 examples I experienced this week is the last act 2 mission, before going in the infinite forest, you can get out of the containement box with the super. And in verity encounter you can get out of the solo rooms by throwing super in the glass wall. When outside, you cant get back in, and you cant get out of the solo rooms from the back side of the wall, even if you have the key I see some places where this could help get out of the map. But i ́m sure I ́m not making you discover this.
I doubt you'd see any of that out of map. It's likely just a 2d shape drawn there. You can get out of map there. I show it in ruclips.net/video/ud1ajnrYM_s/видео.html
Can you try to oob the area with the vex pyramid behind where we first meet Maya in the weekly seasonal mission? I've been trying to get there but am having trouble with triggering the cutscene when i get too close
Yeah. Would be cool, but I doubt that's gunna be possible. I don't think we have sparrows or loadzones in Excision, so we'd either need a tunnel, or new box break. And last I checked, we're still about 10m short of box breaking with Mountain Top, and suspect it's due to a global speed limit.
@@Froggy618157725 I gotta here more about how close we are to a new box break. Feel like I could maybe think of something. been wanting to find a way to get to outside the cistern box ever since the old sparrow box break was patched
So, with mountain top, you can stack up shots and use the edge of an explosive shots explosive radius to reset the timer. You fire em at low light, then swap high to not die from it. Warlock Strand super for barrier push. We currently believe the speed is limited by some global speed limit, and using red roof to test, I hear the best attempt got like 90m into the 100m box. Either need a way to push past that speed barrier, or get more acceleration within the box pull. It could be a max impulse on one frame sort of deal. Idk. Rythm would know more.
yo froggy have u oobed vault of glass? cuz ik u sometimes oob FAR from the like main area, for example in root of nightmares unless it was someone else didn't u grapple nav fly to the giant root thing in the distance? but in vault of glass im oob and im currently trying to find a way inside the map past the barriers (i made a vid on doing it on the right side barrier) for opening of vog map, i am directly next to the tunnel area for the left side barrier, might make it in but the buildings and the smoke structures in the way distance, i wonder if those are solid or not
I believe Gerbsnail has some videos on box breaks in Vog. If you're talking the pre raid part with the remnants of Venus, we did a lot of flying around out of box there in the drop box days. Not sure who's got vids of that. I'd probably check Gerbsnail's channel though.
Something interesting I found, is that the original cave for the //NODE.OVRD.AVALON// mission is still there, but the actual cave is gone and leads to a large hole in the map. I was wondering if maybe there’s any place you can go there, or if it’s just a fun area to find. (It may be patched tomorrow, but I’m not sure.)
Probably just a fun thing to find. We have plenty of EDZ holes we can use to reach that area. Sadly the mission was never connected to patrol, just that initial cave thing.
Whenever you post an oob I enjoy watching not to actually do the oob yet to see how the game designers engineer their creation. Possibly create your own game.
That's one of my favorite parts of looking around out of map. You get to see a bit of how the game is made.
the cut at 25:25 was so clean, I didn't process it until you called it out. well done, Mr.frog
Hehe. A compromise between wanting to trim down the length, and preempting questions about how I got so far with a single grapple ;)
Part of what I love about froggy videos is how much you try to make it easier for others to understand (like explaining why you do certain actions in a certain order, showing multiple methods / setups, mentioning the required minimum loadout/class/subclass - while also noting when navigator just makes it easier vs necessary.)
As far as routes to go OOB, in some zones there are many ways to get there, but I notice in your videos you always try to show the simplest way or easiest way to be successful. You teach as someone who believes each player is capable of learning and achieving these results. And that is a glorious thing.
You honor your fellow guardians, sir
It's definitely a big goal of mine. I hope people can watch these videos and gain the ability to find their own routes. Or at the very least, feel comfortable attempting the routes on their own.
I'll generally run a route many times, trying to see what issues you're likely to run into, and how to recover from small problems. Never fun to be 30 minutes into a route, and having to start fresh because you missed a jump.
I also love the collaborative nature of it these days. For the more complicated stuff, we sometimes have like a dozen people contributing ideas and little pieces of the route. It's interesting to see how different people approach it. Small things can make a big difference for consistency.
There's certainly a place for spectacle with out of map stuff. I do enjoy watching speed runners zip around with precise skates and whatnot, but it's also a bit less approachable for beginners. That's one of the reasons I like to keep mistakes in the video. It doesn't have to be perfect to get you there :)
The invisible cylinder containing nothing further cements the superiority of Neomuna's fish can
Hey. I think you already know about this, but I ́d like to mention the strength of the new arc hunter super when it comes to getting out of certain boundries. Any wall you can shoot through, you can also yeet the arc super and get out. The 2 examples I experienced this week is the last act 2 mission, before going in the infinite forest, you can get out of the containement box with the super. And in verity encounter you can get out of the solo rooms by throwing super in the glass wall. When outside, you cant get back in, and you cant get out of the solo rooms from the back side of the wall, even if you have the key
I see some places where this could help get out of the map. But i ́m sure I ́m not making you discover this.
We need this dude for game testing
I do have something of a superpower for hitting weird issues in complicated systems. It can be rather handy for debugging.
I eagerly await the Verity OOB to show how they make the shadows for the shapes!
I doubt you'd see any of that out of map. It's likely just a 2d shape drawn there. You can get out of map there. I show it in ruclips.net/video/ud1ajnrYM_s/видео.html
why is your voice so amazing
So many different ways out t un the lst sector and the pale heart in general.
Can you try to oob the area with the vex pyramid behind where we first meet Maya in the weekly seasonal mission?
I've been trying to get there but am having trouble with triggering the cutscene when i get too close
Now to get to the 12-man statue room somehow 😅 this story one has the 3 statues within the cylinder
Yeah. Would be cool, but I doubt that's gunna be possible. I don't think we have sparrows or loadzones in Excision, so we'd either need a tunnel, or new box break. And last I checked, we're still about 10m short of box breaking with Mountain Top, and suspect it's due to a global speed limit.
@@Froggy618157725 after finding a funnel to the atraks box I believe anything is possible
@@Froggy618157725 I gotta here more about how close we are to a new box break. Feel like I could maybe think of something. been wanting to find a way to get to outside the cistern box ever since the old sparrow box break was patched
So, with mountain top, you can stack up shots and use the edge of an explosive shots explosive radius to reset the timer. You fire em at low light, then swap high to not die from it. Warlock Strand super for barrier push. We currently believe the speed is limited by some global speed limit, and using red roof to test, I hear the best attempt got like 90m into the 100m box.
Either need a way to push past that speed barrier, or get more acceleration within the box pull. It could be a max impulse on one frame sort of deal. Idk. Rythm would know more.
yo froggy have u oobed vault of glass? cuz ik u sometimes oob FAR from the like main area, for example in root of nightmares unless it was someone else didn't u grapple nav fly to the giant root thing in the distance? but in vault of glass im oob and im currently trying to find a way inside the map past the barriers (i made a vid on doing it on the right side barrier) for opening of vog map, i am directly next to the tunnel area for the left side barrier, might make it in but the buildings and the smoke structures in the way distance, i wonder if those are solid or not
quick update yeah i made it past left side barrier W
I believe Gerbsnail has some videos on box breaks in Vog. If you're talking the pre raid part with the remnants of Venus, we did a lot of flying around out of box there in the drop box days. Not sure who's got vids of that. I'd probably check Gerbsnail's channel though.
@@Froggy618157725 Alr bet, Ty kind sir
Now just to get into exersimism and the raid from patrol
If only... Sadly I'm pretty sure those are both isolated.
@@Froggy618157725 idk, there is somehow a shattered throne load in DC patrol even though that's supposed to be isolated too, so you never know......
4:20 blud said that he had a negative canthyle tilt? Also unban from raid secrets ❤❤❤❤😊😅😂😮🎉
gave bro 1 perc he start saying all this
Something interesting I found, is that the original cave for the //NODE.OVRD.AVALON// mission is still there, but the actual cave is gone and leads to a large hole in the map. I was wondering if maybe there’s any place you can go there, or if it’s just a fun area to find. (It may be patched tomorrow, but I’m not sure.)
Probably just a fun thing to find. We have plenty of EDZ holes we can use to reach that area. Sadly the mission was never connected to patrol, just that initial cave thing.
@@Froggy618157725 Ah ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the info!