The Simpsons Iceberg Explained
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2023
- The Simpsons has been on for a long time. So it makes sense that there would be a ton of discourse, theories, and little known facts about the series. So let's dive into the first 8 seasons of the Simpsons and see what we can find out. Who is Graggle? Who really shot Mr. Burns? What's the deal with Marge's father? Let's find out.
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The Golden Girls!
Talk about why you'll never change your username to 100k Productions.
I don’t want to make a new logo😔
Doctor who! C'mon, just a few days away from their 60th anniversary, get that engagement my dude. I saw a guy with 300 subs get thousands of views on a video bc everyone's taking about the show right now bc they just had a huge Disney deal and ofc, the anniversary.
@@10KProductions ah, ok lol.
i really like the theory that moe plays along with the prank calls to give bart a laugh. yeah, moe is a very violent angry person with adults but he's shown repeatedly to be a great dude when it comes to kids. i think it perfectly fits moe's character.
He has read to children, saved Maggie's life and more
It's not likely considering the episode where bart has a crush on his neighbor and calls moe saying he is Jimbo and where he is, so moe would come to threaten jimbo with a knife.
@@kael3658
Well, if he knew it was Bart doing all the prank calls, then getting a name after all those threats could be him knowing that this "Jimbo" guy's giving Bart trouble and deciding to do something about it.
@@Luigicat11 yeah that's possible
Just don't tell Moe that your soda is too cold and hurts your teeth. Might need to cover your freakin' ears if ya do
The floating timeline really breaks things. There was an episode like 2-4 years ago where Marge was in highschool back in 1990, and I'm thinking "weird, I thought Marge was married with 3 kids back in 1990."
Yeah its just so it can be more relatable to people watching. Not many people watching the simpsons went to hs in the 70s
I feel like the fun part is when you realise that it really _doesn't_ break anything, or at least it doesn't break anything that matters. The show just takes it all in stride
Every episode is a new story, and it only really has to be consistent with itself. Continuity with the past is a lovely thing and it's good to have some, but there's no reason to let it get in the way of telling the story you want to tell right now
By now you just need to consider these timeline breaks a running gag.
There's an episode that starts out with Homer saying "I was two years old in 1986! Or was I thirty?" ;D
I've heard it said that every character always stays the same age, except Burns, he's the only one who isn't consistent. I've also heard it said that he's actually the only one who _is_ consistent. Everyone else is sliding through time and he's actually ageing correctly
Casinos were not taking bets on this. That shot of the odds was taken at The Mirage sportsbook and was used in a special spoof episode of America's Most Wanted where they tried to find out who shot Mr Burns. If a casino took that bet, then writers from The Simpsons could easily exploit that.
Yes, the Nevada Gaming Commission does not allow bets on scripted pre-determined outocmes, nor does any state really. It's why you can't bet on pro wrestling.
Influencers spreading misinformation on the net isn't new, thanks for clarifying.
The butterfinger portion is genuinely fascinating to me bc I’ve literally never heard of them in my life. Like, they straight up don’t exist in my country
US Defaultism
I weep for your country.
And mine too but different reasons. We have Butterfingers but a lot else sucks.
Ive heard of them... on an american tv show lol
Yeah but America is the entire planet earth according to Americans
@@stevenwhuntvaI don't, I have Kinders
With its increased metahumor like putting the Homer backing into a shrub gif meme on an episode, I'm a little surprised Graggle Simpson hasnt shown up on an actual episode yet.
I've thought the same thing
I wonder if it would ruin the graggle meme though? Once he's actually appeared in the show it stops being entirely a weird conspiracy theory, and starts being just a thing that actually happened in the Simpsons. A bit of the magic would be gone
@@douglaswolfen7820 If it did happen people on twitter would complain about it and how "the simpsons should just get cancelled at this point"
@@douglaswolfen7820 Have Graggle as a background character that only appears for less than a frame so nobody can actually confirm whether or not they actually saw Graggle or its just a weird yellow splotch that looks like Graggle
27:25 -- Homer's look being similar to an obscure comic strip character from the 1920s probably inspired the Season 7 episode "The Day the Violence Died" where an old homeless man (voiced by Kirk Douglas) claimed to have created Itchy and Scratchy first in 1919.
I think milhouse showed off his alf pogs to lisa thinking she'd find it cool, and let it slip that he traded bart's soul for them at the comic store
They played the clip of Bush's Waltons speech in a short segment before an episode where Bart responds "We're just like the Waltons, we're praying for an end to the Depression too."
Oh dear god haha! What a roast!
It's always wild to me when I realize the Simpsons (the current version, not the sketch show version) is only a few months younger than me. Easy to remember how old the series is, at least, lol.
When my parents got married (in 1993) our reverend says “please don’t let your marriage end up like the simpsons”. Not sure why he said that, but just like the simpsons, 30 odd years on and their marriage is still going strong
That so weird. Especially because they’re such a great couple?
I think he was just being a wiseass about noisy arguments that usually happen in marriages, I know before I faked my death and moved to Shelbyville with Sideshow Bob, me and Ned Flanders had a lot of noisy fights
@@EdnaK728you’re dead, be quiet
Simpsons were considered a bad influence at the time. I remember my evangelical relatives being offended by it (and Rosanne and Married with Children).
The irony is Homer was considered a loser at the time, because he ONLY had 2 used cars and an old house.
@@roadbone1941 well Sideshow Bob now has a lovely mansion in Shelbyville and a very expensive white sports car, and I'm his girlfriend!!! 😍😍😍😍 I'm the luckiest woman ever!
20:00 how is this a plot hole?
bart went from the restaraunt to milhouses house, to his grandmothers house(presumably on foot in shelbyville where cannocially their family is from) back to springfield.
the issue is how lisa knew comicbook guy had the soul now instead of milhouse, not how she got it before CBG, though this can easily be explained by the fact that shes been keeping track of it the entire time to teach bart a lesson about spirituality and the importance of it. she may have already tried to buy the soul from milhouse who said the same information when she saw how much bart was suffering, only giving her jabs in the resteraunt to mess with him to the point of breaking only to already have it secured.
I’d imagine Graggle as a kind of character who only actually interacts with the characters on little occasion, most of the time only appearing in his own little scenes or in the background doing his own little thing while the other characters simply weren’t aware of his presence. However, he would have interacted with others on rare occasion like the supposed dinner table screenshot.
Like the clown guy in Amazing World of Gumball?
@@eggy_breath1235 idk, haven’t watched it
@@albireothestarthebacklight2990 have you seen it yet
@@eggy_breath1235 I'm surprised they haven't actually put him in the show yet, just to fuck with people
(Or would that ruin the joke?)
I'm still convinced the Homer as Krusty error in Who Shot Mr. Burns part 1 is because Homer was accidentally drawn into the scene even though it was specified to leave him out, and they just recolored him and added the tuft of hair on top to correct the error.
Krusty was originally going to be an alter ego for Homer in the show. They scrapped the idea for being too outlandish.
Did you ever notice?: Patty and Selma have the same two hairstyles as classic wrestling tag team, The Wild Samoans.
The Barts soul thing isn’t really a plot hole, lisa could’ve talked to milhouse before dinner on the phone, teased Bart and then have her parents drive her to the comic shop after dinner. Bart would’ve been searching for milhouse for hours so it makes sense the comic shop would be closed and the soul would be sold already. Then the story continues when comic book guy finds Bart in front of the store.
He also spends a lot of time running around looking for Milhouse and scaring Ralph before going to Android’s Dungeon. That would give Lisa plenty of time to call Milhouse, learn what he did with the soul and get it back.
I thought he was gonna say she gave millhouse head for it like what
Maggie has been a baby longer than I’ve been alive
Same
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I never thought of it that way.... dang....
Graggle is probably parodying Brian Griffin, who is pretty blatantly a self-insert creator stand-in.
Graggle is also a good way to separate fake Simpsons fans from real ones cause they'll either be very confused or just go along with whatever you say happened with Graggle.
I've just realised that Marge's dad and Police Chief Wiggum have the same first name - Clancy !
And In wiggums post s1 hair and the episode Fear of Flying (S6 E11) Bouviers hair, they are both blue
@@Whiteman2.0hmmmm, curious.
Nobody's gonna talk about Smithers' hair color in those Who Shot Mr. Burns promos? I mean it's not like his first appearance thing, he was already established as a character and his hair is wrong in BOTH of the ones you showed!
Finally some justice for Graggle Simpson
Graggle stans here to rep
I hate Graggle for some reason, IDK why, it seem harmless, but something about it... ...maybe because it's a forced meme, like 'superwholock", or maybe because it's not edgy enough like Sanic.
@@roadbone1941 They're not a "forced meme", they're an integral part of The Simpsons golden age and was the first non-binary character on TV.
@@roadbone1941if you don't like forced memes why like the Simpsons? From what I remember Milhouse was THE forced meme for years and years
@@DUKEHadToDoItToEm IT got the point "Milhouse is not a meme" became a meme.
Props to Wilfred on the iceberg and you for the video, the entries picked were very fun to learn about. Love the video 🔥🔥🔥
Regarding the last point, it's kinda weird to imagine that people did, indeed, become like the Simpsons, so much so that now it's kinda boring. Nowadays, it's more subversive and interesting to show families that aren't dysfunctional, and are all around great to each other.
Back then, things like Bart talking back to his teachers weren't seen as merely subversive, they were damn near the fall of western civilization acording to every parent in the 90s.
Fun Fact in the THOH segment Time & Punishment Roy was originally going to be in it being Homer's eldest kid in an alternate reality.
It's kind of amazing you go from talking about a major animation error with Sherri only for the next iceberg point to show another major one with Ned Flander's neck @34:14 😂
For the Moe knows it's Bart, I disagree b/c of the episode where Jessica moves in next door and dates Jimbo and Bart tells Moe that he's Jimbo and lives at his address and Moe runs over with a knife and basically threatens to slit his throat.
Of course Lisa would tease him over it. She wanted to see if he really wanted it back, and what he was willing to go through. He might not have learned about humility that way. It never seemed like a mystery to me, so I'm surprised it was a point of contention among some fans
One thing that I didn't see on the list is the theory that everything post Season 6 is a dream.
In S06E04, Itchy & Scratchy Land, Homer's driving the family to the titular theme park, and is driving while dead tired. Marge suggests he pull over, but Homer insists he's fine. In the next scene, a car slides off the road, into a telephone pole, and catches fire. The scene zooms out to show the family standing in a hotel room watching the crash, and Bart says "whew! Glad that wasn't us!"
The theory goes that it WAS the Simpsons that crashed, and that everything that happens after that episode is some kind of a dream / coma fantasy, as things get rather absurd after that. I know it was a bit absurd before that (e.g. Homer going to space), but many of those were rather plausible because some were based on real events (like Sharon McAuliffe who was a teacher that was aboard the Challenger when it exploded)
I think the trouble with this is that it doesn't add much, or change much. The Simpsons aren't "really" in a coma, because they aren't real. And if the story we're watching is all a dream, then it's still the same story
Have you ever seen the Princess Bride? Most people will tell you that it's a fantasy story about Wesley and Buttercup, set in a feudal / medieval world of pirates and princesses and peasants. _technically_ the entire film takes place in the 20th century in a child's bedroom, and the only people in the movie are the kid and his Grandad, who's reading him a bedtime story
None of the other characters are "real", they're just the story the grandad is reading. But so what? The story of Wesley and Buttercup takes up most of the film, and that's the story we get invested in. The old man and the kid are just a framing device, and knowing that they're out there doesn't really change how we feel about the main story
Is it just me or does Graggle look like a Koopa Troopa?
It's kind of crazy how so much of the early simpsons had things planned that would break the status quo and keep things fresh, but people got so comfortable with the status quo that every single thing regarding it was scrapped in favor of flandarizing characters more. I firmly believe that the simpsons would've been better off today if they went with a "everything happens on a specific timeline and the characters age in real time" thing rather than the "homer was born in1960 but was an 80's kid wish fulfilment fantasy and had an early 2000's punk band as a teenager simultaneously" vibe they ended up doing.
Thanks for always giving me something fun to listen too at work! The Krusty show you referenced allegedly became the series The Critic, which crossed over with The Simpsons in A Star Is Burns. Could be worth an episode?
Good to know!
I remember the Michael Jackson episode was pulled from streaming platforms when the child abuse allegations came out. In Australia the episode is still missing on Disney Plus, S3 E1 is listed as "Mr Lisa Goes to Washington" instead of "Stark Raving Dad", but for me I have the DVD anyway.
Thank god for physical media
@@wolfetteplays8894 for real. Games, movies, music.. i love physical media.
Maybe if graggle had clothes on I could believe it
That scanner that scans Maggie says different things throughout the series.
It says NRA 4EVR
@da3musceteers just one of several radical right-wing message's inserted into every show by creator Matt Groaning
@@alanmurray5963 beats Hollywood's left wing propaganda
Nice work, i love those Eisberg videos
Great SIMPSONS LORE run-down!
I'm surprised I'd never heard about Silent Sam before, reminds me of the connections people have made between Itchy & Scratchy and the early-80s Italian underground comix Squeak The Mouse. It's more believable fellow 80s indie cartoonist Groening would have known about it via an import copy than a Swedish strip from the 20s.
Selma has split hair. Patty has puffy hair
The hair and the earrings build an S. So the writers and Animations could remember who is who.
Also, Selma wears a sleeveless blue dress whereas Patty wears a short sleeved lilac dress.
Their hairstyles also helped differentiate between Marge's sisters. Not just jewellery.
Never been so early this is the best I could come up with
Thanks friend
Another fun fact about Krusty: during an interview on PBS's Pioneers of Television, Dan Castellaneta claimed to have based Krusty's voice off another TV clown: Bozo. More specifically, Chicago Bozo actor Bob Bell, who portrayed the clown on Chicago television from 1960 until 1984.
Between the simpsons and Seinfeld it was comedy gold in the 90’s
You did a great job. I'd love to see this gone through more you've just scratched the service... you know if you dare to touch the last few layers of this... You have no idea how pleased I am you talked about the Sherri Apparition lol.
Some stuff I'd like to add on to entries covered:
Marge's dad also involves his personality. Sometimes he's a stereotypical gruff masculine smoker. Other times he's a lot more polite and delicate like on the airplane.
Some of the original animation in some enchanted evening made it into some quick scenes of the final, it's also just weirdly inconsistent and has that infamous smooth scene. It's all due to just how rushed and insane and miraculous the process was.
I like the idea that Moe is just messing with Bart too lol especially when he pretended to almost catch him.
Then I've heard there being reports of Gumbly in 2011 but I have no proof.
I'm so upset about Selma's rad earrings I freaked when I first saw them ;(. And Roy has always been there they cut his episodes 8).
Oh shit, I've seen you around on Vinesauce videos. Didn't know you were a Simpsons expert.
I mean it's really just on this era.
at 34:00 they just forgot to put the cel in to be scanned. It was a mistake made often with cel animation. There is another example of this in bambi.
Thankyou for the detailed and well researched video!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Also, bart didn't go to the comicbook shop until the early morning. Like 3 or 4am. Lisa could've bought it before they closed.
Been a while since I watched it but im pretty sure Weezer performed the Simpsons theme in that one Lisa episode, not fall out boy. They also voiced the shanty band and premiered a snippet of blue dream on that episode
I watched the pilot of Simpson's before it got its own show. I'm shocked it survived the controversy of "eat my shorts".
A line Bart borrowed from John Bender in the Breakfast Club (1985)
I want a full episode of "Worker and Parasite" and "Marge becomes a robot!"😂
Hey 👋 small correction (1:30) gragle simpson is actually a recurring character first introduced in season 1 and hasn't missed an episode since
hope this helps 🙏
I thought that once they removed Graggle from all the episodes, the show lost all its charm. Graggle was the comedic relief character and the writers could use him for almost anything they wanted. Now, I feel like they’ve lost that spark without Graggle, and they’ve had to ramp up the craziness of the other characters to substitute Graggle’s absence.
Character looks 95% like Homer Simpson. Narrator: That's just a coincidence! Nothing to see here!
17:32 wait wait wait, but she is the middle child no? There's Bart - Lisa - Maggie. Am I missing something?
Don't forget about Barts evil twin brother
At least one or two minutes about Dead Bart would habe been great😅
Before this vid, I had never heard of who shot mr burns
A bit late but GZ on 100k!
Is this also a Mandela Effect or didnt you already make a video about this?
Especially the Homer is Krusty part
I never noticed that santa's little helper is in the B sharps episode and I've watched that episode so many times
There’s so much stuff that you just never make the connection on it’s kind of crazy
A Troy McClure movie, this is now the thing I want to see most that never will be. Phil was so great.
Frink's son is shown much more often than just the example you chose. Just with a different design. His son is commonly just a smaller version of Frink. Pretty sure he was in the episode where Homer pretends to be a battle bot for Bart.
That Mr Burns episode was the most important thing in history besides Jcvd dancing in Thailand
I always assumed Lisa just made a copy of the paper
3:11 LOL I made this Gumbly drawing 3 years ago, it's wild to see it appear here LOL
Haha holy shit no way. That’s awesome
There's no potholes with the soul selling episode. Lisa bought it after the family had dinner, just not at the comic book store. We know comic book guy wasn't there at night since he arrives in the morning to see Bart, so Lisa could've certainly arranged to meet him elsewhere and never crossed paths with Bart that night
It's crazy to me that The Simpsons, one of the most successful tv shows ever, is technically a spin-off series of another tv show
The simpsons started the day i was born. It was aired at 835 on a sketch comedy show. The exact moment i was born.
I always relished at least being born the same year the actual show premiered (a few months before the Xmas special aired) but that is pretty damn cool
there was a recent episode where homer said,"Remember when I shot Mr.Burns and framed Maggie?" while they were during to the dude ranch.
This is the WatchMojo of iceberg charts
moe knows its bart, he even says so. bart calls and makes a nice joke with moe and moe says "aww thanks bart I needed that" confirming he does in fact know it is bart.
also families are no longer like the simpsons, as were far more broke.
25:12 There’s four then, there was also what ultimately became The Man Who Came To Be Dinner that the showrunner tried to do as a sequel movie but gave up on as there just wasn’t enough material in here was well (just like with Kamp Krusty).
34:18...Ned's head....lmao
20:37
Can u do more rankings videos on shows
I plan on it. Those just take a hot minute to do!
@@10KProductionsi would like to see anime ranking like Naruto Naruto shippuden boruto or bleach episodes ranking
19:34 Clancy Bouvier probably likes to change his hair colour, or maybe it changes when he gets older. It does make you wonder, since Marge uses blue dye for her hair, and maybe there is a connection in here somewhere. Something to remember her dad by and since she is embarrassed to admit or talk about it, shows a deeper meaning here.
Propably she misremembered. She Was a child back then.
Homer even misremembered her hair colour, before He sais to the president...
I remember playing the arcade game in a theater I went to often it was so much fun
Me: I’ve seen every episode of the Simpsons! I watched it all on Disney+ during lockdown and it is one of my coolest achievements in my opini-
“This episode isn’t on Disney+”
Me: 😩
Can't believe Tito Puente could have shot Mr. Burns. It's so unrealistic
Never knew about the Silent Sam coincidence or Matt being in the audience of the Rusty Nails show
The Paul is dead thing started long before the Internet was around
8:25 In order for THAT ending to work, you have to ignore the Simpson DNA evidence and that would be downright nutty…
Hi Troy.....I remember you from such comment sections as "Why oh Why Nature" and "Dont put my nerf-ball in there!!!!"😊
19:00 I feel in general the show rarely focuses on Marge's family in general, besides Patty and Selma, even her Mom who is alive has only been in 55 episodes (according to the Wiki) and most are just Cameos.
i love graggle
Everybody loves Graggle. And his many catchphrases.
Lisa needs braces!!
Dental plan!
Does anyone else remember the simpsons Michael Jackson tribute. A little bit after Jackson died the simpsons aired a regular modern episode except it started with the video of do that Bart man ending with a title card saying, in memory of Michael Jackson
I always thought that comment H. W. made about “more like the Waltons and less like the Simpsons” was talking about the Walton family that owns Walmart. I thought it was a comment on the wealth gap, some sort of promise to make more Americans wealthier. I’d never heard of the show The Waltons, so I thought the comparison to the Simpsons was as an average working/middle class family rather than calling them crude.
In 1991 Walmart was successful but not nation-wide yet. Slight tangent, back when Sam Walton was still alive, every store had a sticker on the front door stating that everything they sold was made in the USA. Then he died and, well....
@@LordSluggoand then what ?
@@ilovereptiles687 and then between his kids and the rest of the C-suite you now have the shelves packed with Chineseium
@@LordSluggo Ah thx for replying
Roy Simpson was the original graggle
It's older than 95% of people watching this, it's 34 years old dude
There actually is a background character that appears at least 7 times in various episodes of very early seasons (Season 1, episodes 3, 7, 8, and multiple times in episode 14) when the animation and modeling was still in flux that bears a striking resemblance to "Graggle Simpson." Though unnamed, and has no lines he actually did exist.
16:25 I have wondered about this a lot, but like, they have different houses. It is hard to tell how many there are, but there is a few. They move around a lot, either with the town, or other reasons, since the locations are always different. Homer and Bart are very wealthy, as they do thier stuff, they just hide from the FBI again, so they don't get caught like before, or maybe, they are keeping stuff in safe places. In one epsisode, you can see massive amount of gold underneath the floorboards. They use thier houses for different purposes and even in one of the newest episodes, they are living in a big house,
i WOULD LOVE A SOUTH PARK ICEBERG
"I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot" Professor Frink's son comes out as well.
spoiler alert on the simpsons is wild
Nah Moe doesn’t know it was Bart prank calling otherwise he wouldn’t have gone to 742 Evergreen Terrace to track down Jimbo Jones in the episode when Bart’s babysitter starts dating Jimbo.
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I believe the till changes when Maggie is scanned.
Moe could also be not doing anything to Bart since he knows Homer his best customer will probably stop going there if he were to... There's lots of reasons to give why he doesn't stop answering or asking for the people Bart asks for... I think Moe is like the cool uncle archetype where he's not exactly a good influence but knows what it's like to be a kid making prank calls so as an adult he plays it up to give Bart a good laugh. I remember making prank calls when I was younger if every time I tried I got no or a poor response I would have stopped much sooner, but I had fun and didn't hurt anyone, harmless kid fun and I think Moe recognizes that as well.
Part 2!
December 1989, Simpsons premiers.
5:15 "Late 80s, Butterfinger makes a deal to have Bart promote Butterfingers" uh... off of a pilot episode?
Simpsons is the longest running prime time show EVER
Regarding Bush Sr's quote, I find the Simpsons pretty wholesome.
Same
Found this video thanks to a tweet from @ElBarto, hard to find quality content like this nowadays. Keep it up @10KProductions!!!
Thanks friend! Link me that tweet and I'll send them a follow!
Can we stop talking about Graggle?? I can’t stop hearing about the way he nearly killed Krusty in Season 12, and am getting sick of it.
Yeah, then there was that time he predicted jfks death
@@Odindoesstuffreal Yeah, but that was when he hung out with Grandpa, he sorta stopped doing that when Season 3 rolled in.
Dead joke
@@Spurgte Dead President.