Hey guys, okok let's take it positively. First, we all agree that Kissin is one of the best players in the world and of course he has performed many times in fast and normal dynamic. I think this version can be a good reference to those who practise this concerto showing it slowly and clearly. Actually I've been practising this for a year and it helps me a lot.(I am a just amateur with no lesson) We neee to appreciate the legacy we got and also to him.
...take it positively, because there are pianists who turn this and other works into an acrobatic "gallop race" and some listeners are even thrilled. I want to exaggerate a little: Rachmaninov can actually only be interpreted by Russian pianists because they can empathize with Rachmaninov's thoughts in the music.... ...nimm es positiv, denn es gibt Pianisten, die machen aus diesem aber auch anderen Werken ein akrobatisches "Galopp-Rennen" und manche Zuhörer sind sogar begeistert. Ich will etwas überhöhen: Rachmaninov können eigentlich nur russischen Pianisten interpretieren, weil sie die in der Musik liegenden Gedanken von Rachmaninov nachempfinden können....
В течение экспозиции он несколько раз меняет темп. У меня слегка закружилась голова. Такое впечатление, что я нахожусь на лодке, которую сильно качают волны.
Kissin has an amazing interpretation complete control and allows this wonderful piece to show you a different side of itself… A great interpretation from a great pianist
Encores: 0:59:01 Alexander Krein : Suite dansée, Op. 44, No 3 Andantino 1:06:19 Alexander Scriabin: Mazurka in E minor Op.25 No.3 1:00:19 Sergei Rachmaninov Prelude in C-sharp minor Op. 3 no. 2
Уехала в Старый Салтов ,это харьковская область сегодня утром с Шопеновским Концертом. Теперь Рахманинов _ О Своей БЕДЕ ГОСПОДИ !!! Сколько же ЕЩЕ Как Евгений Кисин ВМЕЩАЕТ. ЭТО ?... Харьков жив
@@rafaelguillermobadellmad-wg4mlso what !! Did God himself come down from the heavens and command the concerto be played only with virtuosic character!! No?
@@rafaelguillermobadellmad-wg4ml maybe, but it is quite a nice change from the usual interpretations. For example, in the first playthrough of theme two in Mvt 3 (G major), he really brings out the downward chromatics in the triplets which can be difficult to blend with the main theme
Entre tantos pianistas e xcelentes que hoy existen, Kissin es mi preferido, pero en especial este concierto representa una época muy especial de mi vida. Lo he escuchado muchísimas veces y para mí la mejor interpretación es con Vodimir Horowitz y lo que estoy escuchando es demasiado lento, independientemente del genio pianístico que es Kissin. Creo que es su interpretación muy personal. cada quien lo escuchará según sus gustos.
Voglio ricordare una cosa che il tempo lo decide sempre il direttore d'orchestra, i musicisti eseguono tutti compreso pianista. Apprezzo molto lo stile di Kissin, preciso e conciso, mi piace come ditteggia e come si muove, molti dei suoi movimenti sono simili a quelli che faceva agli esordi da piccolo 11enne, proprio questo suo fare mi affascina perché dà l'idea di aver conservato il temperamento dell' 11 che suona semplicemente il piano senza rendersi conto della sua bravura.
Un'interpretazione assolutamente personale e molto godibile. ❤ Ma un artista, a mio parere, non è tale se il proprio comunicare si omogenea a quello degli altri! Bravo Evgenij, e molto generoso con i suoi bis!
Ну,что же тут скажешь?Кисин,как всегда,прекрасен и это прекрасная интерпретация Но с С.Рахманиновым не поспоришь - отдал свой шедевр В.Горовицу не случайно
Experimental tempo with opening theme, but mostly normal throughout, one of my favorite pianists; sometimes his note perfection performance psyche seems to hinder spontaneous musicality, almost to a point of being too careful.But what a brilliant tactile keyboard artist, close to human perfection in the complete piano composition genre. Consider the stress on the artist with the reputation of perfect note renditions, and mostly successful; probably a favorite of recording engineers 🎻🎹 Tried the last Ossia cadenza, fiendishly difficult up to tempo.
Excepto por la velocidad excesivamente lenta del primer tema del 1er movimiento, que le resta encanto y belleza, el resto, como siempre la genialidad del Kissin en todo su esplendor.
@@franzliszt1166You are absolutely correct. I was confusing a memory of Rubinstein's Rocky II rather than the Third which I like better these days. Meanwhile, what do you think of Alexander Malofeev's playing of Rachmaninoff?
I don't know what Kissin's deal is with this concerto and why he insists on this Celibidachean tempo. This is even slower and more boring than his RCA recording with Ozawa.
Я не привык к такому темпу... Исчезает русскость, трагичность и экспрессия этого концерта. Концерт 17-летнего Александра Малофеева в Москве-феноменально лучшее исполнение, которое я слышал. Вот там сошлись два гения-юный музыкант и великий композитор.
@ianmac2963 with his half speed and the left hand so spread out he is a genius i suppose, Horowitz, Argerich,Yuja, Volodos,Rach himself...what they missed.
I didn't like it either at first. But then I realized how fucking good this guy is along with the tempo he lays Rachmaninoffs textures out in crystal clear detail. My fav recording is still Kathia Bunitashvili rach 2and3
@@SlayPlenty i felt exact same way about sokolov's hammerklavier. its very slow, but the way he articulates every note and phrase is insane. same here with kissin
@@SlayPlenty I understand what you're saying. The slower the tempo, the more difficult it is to play and the more opportunities for expression, but it doesn't flow as it should. The music has a margin in tempo but I consider that here it loses the essence of Rachmaninoff.
Agree with you on most of the first movement (especially the main octave theme, but excluding the cadenza), but I really do think that in the other movements (especially the second) he leaves just enough space to really hear all of the inner melodies and appreciate the whole texture where most of the other recordings just slosh through them (such as 32:32 or 39:39)
Premesso che la grandezza di Kissin non è in discussione, il suo Rachmaninov, e in particolare questo 3 concerto, non mi entusiasma affatto, anzi, direi che non riesce a essere mai travolgente. Gli preferisco di gran lunga altri interpreti come Lugansky e Argerich.
The opening theme is not supposed to be a funeral piece. Rachmaninoff's tempo is much faster and gives a whole different meaning to the opening. It is annoying that pianists these days all destroy the theme in this way. Because it is a simple theme in a single note octave they think it has to be played like a dreamy nocturne, which is wrong. Listen to Rachmaninoff's own recording.
I agree that it feels too slow, however I think sometimes it is nice to experiment with what we already have in order to express what the pianist wants to convey instead of the original creator. There are many recordings at the intended tempo so I do not believe we have lost it in a new age, but we instead are exploring new ideas.
Agreed, feels too slow to me as well. I do like how her tried to increase the clarity of the inner lines which typical get drowned out, but overall, not sure it worked. Movement two was handled much better imo.
I usually love his playing. This tempo is too distracting and I don’t know if it’s the audio recording but his playing sounds very harsh in some places.
Ascoltate la versione di Trifonovv. Questo signore sarebbe in grado di rallentare a ritmi di marcia funebre anche le promenade di Musorgskij. Ma come si può dire che questa è una versione imprescindibile? Questo non è Rachmaninov. Terribile. E pensare che Trifonov a soli 24 anni ci ha dato una esecuzione indimenticabile. Ascoltare su RUclips. Nessuna passione, nessun impeto, nessun pathos. Il Rachmaninov 3 è una battaglia da combattere fino all'ultima nota senza pietà per le proprie capacità tecniche e per il proprio spirito di esecutore che al termine dell'esecuzione deve sentirsi svuotato di ogni energia vitale. Questa è una esecuzione da centro commerciale o meglio adatta ad una buona sauna. O forse la spiegazione è che le capacità tecniche non sono quelle di Trifonovv.
étonné, je me suis surpris à vérifier la vitesse de lecture ! c'est vraiment inhabituel et dérangeant - l'entendre jouer par Rachmaninov en personne, quelle différence !
I'm afraid I'm still comparing performances of this piece to what Yunchan Lim did during the Cliburn competition and I prefer his performance of this piece. Kissin is a master no doubt but this slow rendering simply loses the energy of the piece.
If you can't write Сергей Васильевич Рахманинов or Sergei Vasilyevich Rachmaninoff, then write at least Sergei Rachmaninoff, but don't but invent weird new transcriptions.
For me - after heareing recoredings of Rachmaninoff playing his concerto - Kissin just seems too delib erate almost hesitant, making me feel as if he is unsure of his own talent. fine performance, but not among my favorite recordings of this concertoF
Oh god, here we go again -- Kissin getting in his own way, draining all life from this concerto with his Celibidachean tempo. He plays every note so deliberately that he loses the music. Where's the passion?
Причины у пианиста или композитора? Если это личные причины пианиста, странно ставить их выше замысла композитора. А по поводу вашего "не нравится, не слушайте" :как можно узнать нравится или нет, не послушав запись или не посетив концерт?
@@Schaunard Зачем мне выдумывать. Я слышу исполнение и читаю комменты. Хорошо, что Рахманинов не знал вашего мнения о его творении, а музыканты не интересуются вашими приказами
Thank you for posting this! The one on my channel got blocked for copyright
I was trying to get in contact with you about it!
dangit
This performance deserves to be posted and reposted everytime it is blocked !
Mvt 1. 03:04 (cadenza 15:50)
Mvt 2. 24:02
Mvt 3. 35:17
Encore Rachmaninov Prelude in C-sharp minor Op. 3 no. 2 1:00:00
35:17
@@dryades1 fixed :)
I was in that concert that day. Amazing!
Beautiful performance. I really like the restrained tempo. It helps to absorb and hear all the notes. Excellent performance, thank you for sharing it.
yes agree. He really outline the complete textures of Rachmaninov ❤
Me tooo!!!!😊
Is really a beautiful performance !!!!!thank you for uploading this ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@叫爸爸-u6x Yes, he outlined them to the point of boredom.
They made it deliberately. Everyone knows, Kissin can play prestissimo. But you ve heard everything, every note Great Rakh had written
No one is better than him. The love and sincerity. ❤❤❤
Genius!!!
such a amazing performance, I love how E, kissing play the piano
素晴らしいの一言に尽きます。
いつもより更にスローなキーシンのピアノ。
一音たりとも 委細漏らさず弾きこなし 、かき鳴らすラストはまさに驚異的。
この音のシャワーの中にいたかった(>_
Thank you from Tashkent! Italians, you keep benchmark. Безупречно! Кисин - просто... Музыкант
Жугут йигит кареп копти...
Hey guys, okok let's take it positively. First, we all agree that Kissin is one of the best players in the world and of course he has performed many times in fast and normal dynamic. I think this version can be a good reference to those who practise this concerto showing it slowly and clearly. Actually I've been practising this for a year and it helps me a lot.(I am a just amateur with no lesson) We neee to appreciate the legacy we got and also to him.
...take it positively, because there are pianists who turn this and other works into an acrobatic "gallop race" and some listeners are even thrilled. I want to exaggerate a little: Rachmaninov can actually only be interpreted by Russian pianists because they can empathize with Rachmaninov's thoughts in the music.... ...nimm es positiv, denn es gibt Pianisten, die machen aus diesem aber auch anderen Werken ein akrobatisches "Galopp-Rennen" und manche Zuhörer sind sogar begeistert. Ich will etwas überhöhen: Rachmaninov können eigentlich nur russischen Pianisten interpretieren, weil sie die in der Musik liegenden Gedanken von Rachmaninov nachempfinden können....
В течение экспозиции он несколько раз меняет темп. У меня слегка закружилась голова. Такое впечатление, что я нахожусь на лодке, которую сильно качают волны.
I think that is a better tempo , so he , with orchestra can absorb and hear all the notes . thank you for uploadind this 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Beautiful, dreamy, great rendition of a musical masterpiece.
I think this is perfect. I can hear every detail and musical nuance being delivered.
Kissin has an amazing interpretation complete control and allows this wonderful piece to show you a different side of itself… A great interpretation from a great pianist
slowest interpretation of this concerto, and still as great as any of the faster interpretations
По современной игре Кисина можно детально изучить 3й Рахманинова😉 Разобрал всё по "косточкам"😎 Шикарно просто (запись в том числе)👍
Encores:
0:59:01 Alexander Krein : Suite dansée, Op. 44, No 3 Andantino
1:06:19 Alexander Scriabin: Mazurka in E minor Op.25 No.3
1:00:19 Sergei Rachmaninov Prelude in C-sharp minor Op. 3 no. 2
Уехала в Старый Салтов ,это харьковская область сегодня утром с Шопеновским Концертом.
Теперь Рахманинов _ О Своей БЕДЕ ГОСПОДИ !!! Сколько же ЕЩЕ
Как Евгений Кисин ВМЕЩАЕТ. ЭТО ?...
Харьков жив
i was there, amazing concert
Это прекрасно, что МАСТЕРА, чувствуюют по - разному.,главное,что их чувства ПРЕКРАСНЫ!! БРАВО!!!!!
What an emotional amazing performance
¡¡¡No lo puedo creer que lo hacen regresar tres veces!!! Magnífico
Beautiful…. Nice and slow..One can absorb all the detail and beauty of this piece..
@@BabakPA maybe but it totally changes the character of the piece
@@rafaelguillermobadellmad-wg4mlso what !! Did God himself come down from the heavens and command the concerto be played only with virtuosic character!! No?
@@rafaelguillermobadellmad-wg4ml maybe, but it is quite a nice change from the usual interpretations. For example, in the first playthrough of theme two in Mvt 3 (G major), he really brings out the downward chromatics in the triplets which can be difficult to blend with the main theme
Entre tantos pianistas e xcelentes que hoy existen, Kissin es mi preferido, pero en especial este concierto representa una época muy especial de mi vida. Lo he escuchado muchísimas veces y para mí la mejor interpretación es con Vodimir Horowitz y lo que estoy escuchando es demasiado lento, independientemente del genio pianístico que es Kissin. Creo que es su interpretación muy personal. cada quien lo escuchará según sus gustos.
Есть комментарии к интерпретации, но Кисин лапочка, с днем иноагентства! Признание заслуг!
Fantastic
This Ossia Cadenza sounds to me as a legacy from both Rachmaninov and Kissin .... 15:50 till 18:50
Wow E Kissin plays perfectly!!!
ここまでテンポの遅い演奏は聴いたことが無いが、好みの分かれる演奏かな？
非常に興味深い演奏。
@essex_esprit
おっしゃる通り。なぜこんなにスピードを遅くするのか、違和感しかないですね。キーシンと他の指揮者との競演の時も同じでしょうか？
conductor at the end - yes we've nailed it...
43:49 for the 3rd movement ossia that basically nobody ever takes (actually can't think of anyone besides Kissin who's done it)
Sokolov
Sounds kind of goofy though
A few people have taken it...but Kissin's clarity remains unrivaled.
The most passionate performance of this Piano Concerto is the one with Olga Kern. Well worth watching
❤❤❤🙏🏻👏👏👏💐💐💐
Voglio ricordare una cosa che il tempo lo decide sempre il direttore d'orchestra, i musicisti eseguono tutti compreso pianista. Apprezzo molto lo stile di Kissin, preciso e conciso, mi piace come ditteggia e come si muove, molti dei suoi movimenti sono simili a quelli che faceva agli esordi da piccolo 11enne, proprio questo suo fare mi affascina perché dà l'idea di aver conservato il temperamento dell' 11 che suona semplicemente il piano senza rendersi conto della sua bravura.
Un'interpretazione assolutamente personale e molto godibile. ❤ Ma un artista, a mio parere, non è tale se il proprio comunicare si omogenea a quello degli altri! Bravo Evgenij, e molto generoso con i suoi bis!
Браво Киссин и Рахманинов!
Ну,что же тут скажешь?Кисин,как всегда,прекрасен и это прекрасная интерпретация
Но с С.Рахманиновым не поспоришь - отдал свой шедевр В.Горовицу не случайно
47:26-48:11
One of the best passages in all of classical music.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I will fall asleep now!!!
Seichas zasnu!!!
Experimental tempo with opening theme, but mostly normal throughout, one of my favorite pianists; sometimes his note perfection performance psyche seems to hinder spontaneous musicality, almost to a point of being too careful.But what a brilliant tactile keyboard artist, close to human perfection in the complete piano composition genre. Consider the stress on the artist with the reputation of perfect note renditions, and mostly successful; probably a favorite of recording engineers 🎻🎹 Tried the last Ossia cadenza, fiendishly difficult up to tempo.
Anyone know when this wonderwork was recorded?? So hard to comprehend genius, just can't grasp it! Thx much.
the title says it was recorded in 2023
❤❤
IN ALL DUE RESPECTS.MANY OF THE GREATS OF THE PAST,WISELY GAVE IT A "MISS"".
Kissin is a beast
I agree !!!
Kissin un uomo che non prende la Ferrari, ma la musica è giusta così, grande Kissin
Excepto por la velocidad excesivamente lenta del primer tema del 1er movimiento, que le resta encanto y belleza, el resto, como siempre la genialidad del Kissin en todo su esplendor.
Это фантастика))) Евгению просто респект))) Гениальный пианист. Прекрасный оркестр))) К сожалению так и не дошли руки до Рах3. Увы.
Malofeev’s is the best I’ve heard since Rubinstein. It’s here on RUclips.
Rubinstein has never played this concerto
@@franzliszt1166You are absolutely correct. I was confusing a memory of Rubinstein's Rocky II rather than the Third which I like better these days. Meanwhile, what do you think of Alexander Malofeev's playing of Rachmaninoff?
@@TomGaugerIt was fantastic for someone his age, but not necessarily the gold standard for Rach 3 interpretations.
WHEN DID ARTUR RUBINSTEIN RECORD RACH.OP30
The tempo of the first movement makes for good slow play practice 😌.
What was the first encore?
Alexandr Krein, Dance, Op. 44, No. 3 (52:59)
20:50 Good
Kissin's piano is slower than usual.
He plays every note without missing a single detail , but misses the song
43:57
3:05
WHO CAN DISPUTE WITH KISSIN ALBEIT,TRADITION HAS THE OPENING MOVEMENT A LITTLE MORE "UP".
Первый раз слышу такой темп😮 Так удобно пианисту? Своя интерпретация?....
Супостат 🥭
Как в старом анекдоте, когда у любовницы умер муж - а мы будем медленно и печально
It's the marriage folks. That's the cientific explanation. Not his fault, he is human.
На скорости 1,5 звучит нормально!
Sentimental distortion and complete misunderstanding of Rachmaninoff's music.
Execrable! He caught the
Gould-Pogorelich disease.
I don't know what Kissin's deal is with this concerto and why he insists on this Celibidachean tempo. This is even slower and more boring than his RCA recording with Ozawa.
Is that a disease, affection, condition or malady?
j adore je savoure un delice merci infiniment
Я не привык к такому темпу... Исчезает русскость, трагичность и экспрессия этого концерта.
Концерт 17-летнего Александра Малофеева в Москве-феноменально лучшее исполнение, которое я слышал. Вот там сошлись два гения-юный музыкант и великий композитор.
This is dragging it to the limit…
Probably he is payed by minutage.
BRILLIANT comment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
@ianmac2963 with his half speed and the left hand so spread out he is a genius i suppose, Horowitz, Argerich,Yuja, Volodos,Rach himself...what they missed.
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Weird, but good ! 😂
Go see horowitz playing this, much better performance, tone and tempo
The slowest version I've ever heard. It's incomprehensible.
I didn't like it either at first. But then I realized how fucking good this guy is along with the tempo he lays Rachmaninoffs textures out in crystal clear detail. My fav recording is still Kathia Bunitashvili rach 2and3
It's slower, but way more expressive and clear. The best version by far
@@SlayPlenty i felt exact same way about sokolov's hammerklavier. its very slow, but the way he articulates every note and phrase is insane. same here with kissin
@@SlayPlenty I understand what you're saying. The slower the tempo, the more difficult it is to play and the more opportunities for expression, but it doesn't flow as it should. The music has a margin in tempo but I consider that here it loses the essence of Rachmaninoff.
Agree with you on most of the first movement (especially the main octave theme, but excluding the cadenza), but I really do think that in the other movements (especially the second) he leaves just enough space to really hear all of the inner melodies and appreciate the whole texture where most of the other recordings just slosh through them (such as 32:32 or 39:39)
Premesso che la grandezza di Kissin non è in discussione, il suo Rachmaninov, e in particolare questo 3 concerto, non mi entusiasma affatto, anzi, direi che non riesce a essere mai travolgente. Gli preferisco di gran lunga altri interpreti come Lugansky e Argerich.
Rach on ludes..
Anyones know additional 3 songs ? Thank you
Alexandr Krein, Dance, Op. 44, No. 3 (52:59)
Alexander Scriabin, Mazurka, Op. 25, No. 3 (56:47)
Sergei Rachmaninov, Prelude in C-sharp minor, Op. 3, No. 2 (1:00:16)
Рахманинова,конечно, ничем не испортишь, ни быстрым темпом, ни медленным.
The opening theme is not supposed to be a funeral piece. Rachmaninoff's tempo is much faster and gives a whole different meaning to the opening. It is annoying that pianists these days all destroy the theme in this way. Because it is a simple theme in a single note octave they think it has to be played like a dreamy nocturne, which is wrong. Listen to Rachmaninoff's own recording.
I agree that it feels too slow, however I think sometimes it is nice to experiment with what we already have in order to express what the pianist wants to convey instead of the original creator. There are many recordings at the intended tempo so I do not believe we have lost it in a new age, but we instead are exploring new ideas.
Agreed, feels too slow to me as well. I do like how her tried to increase the clarity of the inner lines which typical get drowned out, but overall, not sure it worked. Movement two was handled much better imo.
He is king, he can afford it.
@@vladislavmoshkanov6145 haha, very true!
Yes. Pretty annoying. Misuse of power. Great pianist though.
I usually love his playing. This tempo is too distracting and I don’t know if it’s the audio recording but his playing sounds very harsh in some places.
Ascoltate la versione di Trifonovv. Questo signore sarebbe in grado di rallentare a ritmi di marcia funebre anche le promenade di Musorgskij. Ma come si può dire che questa è una versione imprescindibile? Questo non è Rachmaninov. Terribile. E pensare che Trifonov a soli 24 anni ci ha dato una esecuzione indimenticabile. Ascoltare su RUclips. Nessuna passione, nessun impeto, nessun pathos. Il Rachmaninov 3 è una battaglia da combattere fino all'ultima nota senza pietà per le proprie capacità tecniche e per il proprio spirito di esecutore che al termine dell'esecuzione deve sentirsi svuotato di ogni energia vitale. Questa è una esecuzione da centro commerciale o meglio adatta ad una buona sauna. O forse la spiegazione è che le capacità tecniche non sono quelle di Trifonovv.
Relax man, and maybe listen to Kissin's Tchaikovsky 1 with Karajan
@@ИвоИванов-ь8з 3 концерт Рахманинова это совсем не 1 концерт Чайковского,
Как говорят в Одессе: "это две большие разницы"
@@ИвоИванов-ь8з Та запись была сделана Киссиным-мальчиком. Все темпы были продиктованы Караяном.
imbecile savant
étonné, je me suis surpris à vérifier la vitesse de lecture ! c'est vraiment inhabituel et dérangeant - l'entendre jouer par Rachmaninov en personne, quelle différence !
The sound and balance of piano and orchestra on the recording is not good.
I'm afraid I'm still comparing performances of this piece to what Yunchan Lim did during the Cliburn competition and I prefer his performance of this piece. Kissin is a master no doubt but this slow rendering simply loses the energy of the piece.
Лим в подметки не годится Александру Малофееву... В 17 лет он исполнил грандиозно данный концерт, до сих пор в сердце.
If you can't write Сергей Васильевич Рахманинов or Sergei Vasilyevich Rachmaninoff, then write at least Sergei Rachmaninoff, but don't but invent weird new transcriptions.
Интерпретация это прежде всего БЕРЕЖНОЕ отношение к замыслу автора,где темп наиважнейший пункт.
This tempo ruins the orchestral lines, you can barely hear the winds and they can barely sustain the flow of air at this tempo. Its like a parody.
Красиво.....но не Рахманинов......
Шопен, Сенсанс, Шуман, Бетховен, Бах, Лист. Все может Кисин, и даже больше! Но Разманинов - всегда мимо.
Ну зря Вы так. Конечно медленнее чем у других, но все-таки исполнение очень хорошее. А Вторая прелюдия- вообще замечательно
This music in this tempo is a like a dead fish. Kissin without Russia is just another name.
For me - after heareing recoredings of Rachmaninoff playing his concerto - Kissin just seems too delib erate almost hesitant, making me feel as if he is unsure of his own talent. fine performance, but not among my favorite recordings of this concertoF
Кисин после наркоза?
너무 느려서 못듣겠다....ㅠㅠ 이건 완전 걍 모데라토인데....
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Oh god, here we go again -- Kissin getting in his own way, draining all life from this concerto with his Celibidachean tempo. He plays every note so deliberately that he loses the music. Where's the passion?
3악장 이거 말고 못듣겠네… 다른것도 추천좀 ㅠㅠ
Me parece lento comparado con georgiev y bronfman
This is ... almost comically slow. Like I'm waiting for the orchestra to burst laughing and start again from the top.
Esta muy lento y lánguido... pareciera que se olvidó que es Ruso.
Тут пишут, что это похоронный марш. Возможно, так и есть. И у него есть причины.
Кому не нравится, может слушать исполнение китайцев
Причины у пианиста или композитора? Если это личные причины пианиста, странно ставить их выше замысла композитора. А по поводу вашего "не нравится, не слушайте" :как можно узнать нравится или нет, не послушав запись или не посетив концерт?
@@Schaunard
У похоронного марша.
Трудно не понять замысел исполнителей с первых тактов
@@sab2022не выдумывайте. В 3 м Рахманинова для этого причин нет. А если хотелось похоронного марша, , играл бы b-moll сонату Шопена.
@@Schaunard
Зачем мне выдумывать. Я слышу исполнение и читаю комменты.
Хорошо, что Рахманинов не знал вашего мнения о его творении, а музыканты не интересуются вашими приказами
Too slow
Absolutely horrible !
The entire concerto is too slow.
So slow . Why...