Finished moving the last pieces into the new apartment, so content will back to the usual pace real soon. Also, stream tomorrow over @ www.twitch.tv/optimum_tech, probably around 8pm PST.
G'day from Sydney. Hella cool stream. Do you have your secret sauce on OBS settings documented? Or is that a "I could tell you, but then I'd have to eliminate you" kinda question?
It's called being thorough. Can you imagine the REEEEEEE! that would ensue here if he didn't? Even the creators of the cooler has probably thought of this, when they included mounting brackets for 120mm fans.
@@Kenny_Ded no, actually, I can't see the REEEEE. This cooler should stand on its own merits with the included fan. Where would it end if we swapped various parts to make a new part look better. Your argument is a dead duck. Quack.
tonebonetones “Where would it end if we swapped various parts to make a new part look better” Hello, welcome to SFF enthusiast building, I see youre new here! It’s okay, I’ll help you out. Our first stop is r/sffpc on reddit where you’ll see pictures upon pictures of people swapping various parts trying to find the best cooling set up in the most minimal design. Rule #1, it never ends.
@@aa65064 obviously, you cant get to it otherwise? but then it also defeats the purpose unless you are going for only low profile and dont care about anything outside of one dimension. I also was implying that it couldnt possibly be the "LP Noctua killer" for that reason. In any capacity.
I'm coming from using a Noctua NH-L12S, 70mm inside my Loque Ghost S1 II. I bent the heat pipes to cram it into the Ghost and it still lightly touches the side panel. So I just installed the Alpenfohn Black Ridge in my Loque Ghost S1 II and it's simply amazing. I replaced the stock Alpenfohn Black Ridge 92mm fan with a slim Noctua 92mm (Noctua A-Series NF-A9x14) and installed slim Noctua 120mm (Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM) on the top of the CPU cooler (both fans blowing onto the motherboard) and I still have about an 8-millimeter gap between the top-mounted slim 120mm fan the side panel. It looks as if I might even be able to install a full-sized 120mm fan rather than the slim 120mm fan. My normal CPU temps with the Noctua NH-L12S ranged between 45 to 65 degrees with an aggressively very low fan curve (lowest fan speed until 45 degrees, 50% fan speed at 65 degrees). Using the exact same fan curve but with the Alpenfohn Black Ridge and the two Noctua fans, my temps now range from 35 to 52. Thank you so much for making this video! I couldn't be happier with this product. It's more compact, works better, and yes I agree with you, it's a damn good looking heatsink.
PSA: The only B450/X470 board it fits is Asus Strix, if you remove the M.2 heatsink. Luckily, Alpenfohn released alternative mounting kits that should allow it to be mounted on ASRock and Gigabyte boards. They can be found at british Overclockers and german Caseking for couple of pounds/euro. PSA 2: There are 2 versions of this cooler. The older V1 version is not being made anymore due to some manufacturing issues...you can recognize it by its matte black coating. The fixed V2 version is what's currently being sold and it has this "gunmetal/nickel black" shinier coating... It's also the best cooler you can fit in the chinese K39 v2 case (and a couple of similar Taobao cases), which allows you to make a killer gaming system in a 4-5-4.7 liter case with an RTX 2070 ITX GPU...
I'm using it on a b450 aorus itx board. So I guess I have the new mounting brackets? fun fact: i didn't and it broke one of the chokes off of my motherboard and i had to replace it
I just ordered VLP ram and a black ridge cooler! Super excited. I also ordered a VERY old set of VLP server ram to harvest the black heat spreaders for keeping my purple Adata ram cool. Wish me luck! All the parts are coming from different parts of the world, hopefully I will be able to make a truly beautiful set up in my black K39 case.
I would love to see some dB normalized comparisons of those low profile coolers. I think this is a better way of directly comparing the coolers/Fans. Thanks for the awesome sff videos still 😁
I think something very important to note with this cooler is that it can block the top pci-e slot requiring your gpu to use a riser cable. Of course this isn't an issue with the Dan A4 it's designed for, but say you get the cooler in preparation for moving to a smaller case further down the line, you may not be able to use the cooler until you also have the case.
Very important note here: the noctua NF-A9x14 used in the video is 0.21 Amps but you can only purchase the NF-A9x14 0.11 Amps from retailers. The 0.21A version only comes with noctua's heatsinks. The difference can be up to 10ºC, please up this to it can be known. Important EDIT: The 0.21A fan you are looking for (also in black) is Noctua NF-A9x14 HS-PWM
About a year ago i was set on going for a SFF high end build but later reconsidered after realizing what a PITA SFF is and the amount of compromise especially when space isn't an issue. Opting to keep a mid tower build will let me reuse parts like the DH-15 and PSU as well, still cool seeing whats possible when you use every inch of space available.
Hooray! I'm so glad you got around to reviewing this cooler! I've been using it in my Ghost since the corrected revision launched, and I use the Prolimatech Ultra Sleek Vortex 140mm slim fan on top with great success! I plan to migrate everything over to my Sentry 2.0 once it arrives, so I'm glad to see it beats the C7G even though I picked one of those up, too. Great work as always, Ali!
I love the windows in the background with the lights I also got the cooler with my DAN A4 for an additional 20 bucks and swapped to the noctua, it's so much quieter but I didn't change the fan direction Maybe I should try that
You need to always run it as an intake. You also need an airduct in the DAN A4, because although the distance to the side panel isn't far, the holes are too restrictive. The fan will suck recycled air from within the case without it. Just a simple taped on cardboard duct is enough. I've seen someone in the SFF forum drop 15° C with that.
Bought one of these a while ago for my SFF build, I run it in the Kolink Rocket with a 92mm slim Noctua fan under, and recently added a 120mm slim Noctua fan on top, standing the side panel of the case by a cm with some standoff posts. Looks a tad goofy, buy my R5 3600 now runs nice and cool, and boosts a bit higher as a result. Very happy that the Black Ridge is getting some recognition!
Thanks for this, just got my Black Ridge in the post and handily have a spare A9x14 I can swap out the standard fan and pop in the right way around - going in to a Raijintek Ophion (when it gets delivered) it sounds like I have the clearance to put a 120x25 on top aswell as I have a clearance of about 90mm according to the spec sheet and even with the extra fan that's still just 72mm. You've saved me a heap of time testing the push/pull and fan noise differences - cheers!
It can run 3900x stock with 2 noctua fan setup, better than cryorig c7g, and noctua l9x65. But temp will be high, around 90-ish and almost hit max (95°)
Looks great. I'm just hoping noctua releases a slim 92mm fan in chromax like the one on the new chromax l9i. I would love to use that fan instead of the stock one to keep that sleek color scheme.
Great review as always. 2 suggestions for future videos: 1) NCase M1 V6 review (I'm sure you're planning on it) and 2) A video/tutorial on modding a FlexATX PSU with a Noctua 40mm fan for the Velka 3.
Already have a Black Ridge, was thinking to get Scythe Big Shuriken 3 for a new build with 65mm cooler clearance then remember this video, re-watched and now the Big Shuriken 3 is out! This cooler in dual fan mode is just a beast!
Because I want to get a nicer HTPC setup, I'm switching to the Node 202 soon. The info about the Noctua fan might have just saved my ears, as I really like my PCs to be whisper quiet, especially when they're not working hard. Thanks for the insightful video!
It's be great if you could do an apples to apples test between the low profile coolers. Your data has too many variables to be useful at the moment with variance in fan RPM. Might be worth having a standard 120mm fan at a certain RPM used to test out all the 120mm coolers and the same with the 92mm coolers just to give a raw baseline of the difference between the base heatsinks. Other than that great video/shots. (This was meant to be constructive rather than critical btw, just from an end user perspective I'd love to see which cooler unit actually performs best with fan/RPM/ambient being equal)
looks interesting at first... but not so interesting after all, at least for my louqe ghost. The L9x65 offers pretty similar performance without the issue of fitting in biffy MB like the Aorus X570i. Could be great with the combo of A9x14 + A12x25 for temps, but I will get the same issue of noise as with the L9x65, as the fan is too close of the side panel and makes a jet wisthle noise... For aircooling the louqe ghost, the best solution for now is a slightly bent L12S, and if the fan doesnt fit like on the X570i, you swap it for a A9x14, so you get a custom made L12 non S. And you can use the original fan as a case fan.
For a case that will hold the Alpehfoen Black Ridge with an A12x25 fan on top may I suggest the 5.9 liter Yiluka YLK 01 case with a 95 mm cooler height limit. Using for my current APU build. The taller NH-L12 Ghost edition also fits in this case with the A12x25 fan on top with enough space from the case top panel to eliminate any turbulence noise.
Thanks to your reviews i have become a sff lover. First i have built a fractal design node 304 super budget itx case. Then i have tried NZXT Manta and it was too big didnt like it, now i am using InWIn A1 Plus and it is absolutely perfect for my need. You always try premium cases such as dan case or ncase or loque but i think it is time to try inwin a1 plus. I will also looking for a loque but way expensive and try to find a bargain or second hand or else it is too much. Keep doing what you do mate, cheers from Sweden.
The mounting of the Black Ridge on AM4 is horrible to say the least. The poor mainboard was bending. Luckily I had the Noctua L9 backplate available...
Wish this was out when I was finishing my NCASE M1 build. I went with the NF-A9 92mm and put a second fan on it and called it a day. I was told by other builders that the L12 had clearance issues in the NCASE M1. Oh well.
Man I wish Noctua had their ANC fans out already!!! I think the Nidec Servo Gentle Typhoon still beats the stock AF-12 in noise-normalized testing (at least for the first year), but regardless, wow the competition for quiet is FIERCE!
Nice cooler, but unfortunately it has a design flaw that makes using it with a 120mm Noctua fan a literal headache: the standoffs for the stock 92mm fan are too long so when using a 120mm fan the blades can hit them and cause a clacking/rattling sound. I don't know if it's just mine since I don't see anyone else complaining about it, but I had to cut them off and grind them down using a dremel. It's finally silent after doing that though.
For half of the price of Alpenföhn Black Ridge one can get ID Cooling IS 60 with performance on par or better than BR. And it perfectly fits Node 202 (56mm with the fan)! Just replace the supplied fan with Noctua NF-A12x15. Superior cooling and noise performance.
For reference, I have a Scythe Big Shuriken 3 with an NF-A12x25 PWM on my i9-9900KF and it does an adequate job at stock settings. I'm slightly undervolted and get temperatures in the high 70's while gaming. My system is in an FTZ01-E.
Have to say thank you very much for the review, using this with a slim 120mm fan on top with a 3700X and it's awesome. The Cryorig copper thermally ran away with 29C ambient.
@@jamespcorbett Looks a beast! Been looking for copper options but there doesn't seem to be a lot on the market. Reckon you could swap out the fan for a NF-A9x14 or similar Noctua?
I thought this was a pretty cool review. I have moved to water cooling for all of my newest builds but seeing an awesome air cooler like this makes me consider doing an air cooled rig next time because those temps are perfectly acceptable if your using certain CPUs
Slight correction, a quick Google search reveals the height of the black ridge to be 6563 feet, and is located in Utah. On the bright side, this gives us more clearance for ram than previously expected.
Dan a4 v4 user with this cooler here. Definitely recommend it if u go with air cool in the a4, but the installation is quite difficult at first if u have asus board, and some x570 itx might not be compatible due large excessive vrm heatsink so might check it first beforehand.
i got my black ridge v2 today. idle temp around 42 celcius, prime 95 full load 95 celcius. b450i strix, ryzen 5 3600. i use a noctua a9x14, intake setup. my memory is lpx 3200c16 x 2.
@@ericwang3579 ah really do u underclocking r5 3600 using black ridge v2? which case do u use? I already got my r5 3600 today and go trough update bios for my motherboard to suit this new ryzen...
I also have the B450 I Gaming motherboard from Asus. Do I have to remove the heatsink from the M.2 slot? And does the SSD still work without the heatsink? Would love to use the Black Ridge Cooler tho
Didn't do the research and bought this cooler for Asus Z390-I Strix.. wont fit because of massive VRM "heatsink". Filed ~5mm away from the cooler corner to make it fit. Also G.Skill Ripjaws heat spreaders wont fit under this cooler so had to tear them apart. In Sliger SM550 there is no room for top cooler so at some point have to find some vlp ram and slim 120mm under the cooler..
Hello there @Optimum Tech! Amazing review! Love your work. Inspired me to get my own Dan A4. Noise would be the main concern for this build, so which would be quieter? Black Ridge or Asetek 645LT?
I wish you would have shown a GPU mounted to the Motherboard because from what it looked like in this video was that CPU cooler covered the PCIe slot. If so then that too would limit the type of case and mean that you would need a PCIe Riser cable.
Love your SFF PC content. I'm running a 3600X in a Silverstone SG13B paired with a Noctua NH-L12S. While running Realbench as a stress test it can get upto 81C with a room temp of 16C. This CPU gets a bit toasty. I think it's time to undervolt.
@@Waldreth And will it be enough to cool an Intel i9-9900K with provided cooler on ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac ? If so, and it perfectly fits the mobo inside the Louqe ghost S1, then that's what I want!
Do you think motherboard manufacturers or aftermarket companies offering custom fin design VRM cooling solutions would help solve this? A super beefy version of this (with fin cutouts for Ram clearance) designed only for a pull configuration would make this thing an "everything killer" and would be a cool solution when AMD moves APU's 7nm + Navi graphics, as motherboard designers might not need the exra PCIE x16 slot, or that slot could be used with an IO card to add extra PCIE devices and NVME.
I’m not a doctor, but it seems that you could conceivably cool a 3900x if you combined it with ULP memory and a 120mm fan. Would be very curious to see how that combo would work and what kind of temps you would get. Maybe the boost clocks would get clobbered but I think you could get at/above 4ghz
I’m not willing to avoid warrantees by delidding a brand new $400 plus CPU, And Noctua fixed my aesthetic problems I finally releasing the NH - L9i in black. That paired with a duct should cool something like a 3700x or 9700 (non k) in my new Dan A4 without any issue, which is better performance per dollar anyway for someone like me why doesn’t need more than 8 cores
Comparing some charts on your other videos, it seems like this cooler out performs some 92mm AIO coolers by about 7.6 degrees at 500rpm lower and some 120mm AIO by 16.2 degrees at only 150rpm more, all while being only 0.3dBA higher but at 100rpm lower. But they're was no noise test for the dual noctua fan set up so I'm unsure how quiet that would be.
You should really add the Shadow Rock LP to the testing list, cause this cooler is great I'm using it with a noctua slim fan in my ghost s1, although a bit snug it works and temps are great. I'm using a 3700x btw.
im a fan of low profile coolers, i always do that heat pipes always facing the rams and heat pipes fins facing the vram heatsink so it wont interface with the gpu
I have a total empty space of 82mm. The mb is going to be mounted upside down to save as much space as I can. The CPU fan will probably be the only fan in the system. I plan to cool a R5 3600. I love the BS3, I'm also a big fan of Noctua. Exotic things don't scare me. What would you pick? Samuel 17 with a fitting A12, BS3, L12S or Black Ridge + A9 & A12? Since the fan it's going upside down and act as intake I can trim a bit of space from this case (Nintendo NES 8 bit Mattel).
The base of the cooler (where it meets the IHS) is painted black. I would think this would affect thermal transfer from the IHS and into the cooler drastically. I wonder if sanding this with high grit would improve performance. Not that I am planning to do that but I am curios...
Niche review! surprised intake works better is it the same in-case? my l12s didnt Heatsink covering the pcie slot seems like a good decision (because sffs with that much cooler height use riser cable anyway)
GarrettRD I agree it would be nice, but prices fluctuate so frequently, any pricing he listed would probably be outdated by the time the video went live. also the viewership here is international so you’d have to list several vendors from different nations.
The dual fan setup, do other coolers support this? Might be a nice selling point and perhaps the better option for a silent configuration (2 slow spinning fans vs 1 fast spinning).
Can we see that chart updated with competitors with noctua fan swaps? like the cryorig C7 graphene with a noctua fan, Ranjitek Pallas 120 with noctua fan etc.
waiting on my mine im setting it up with 2 noctua fans for my ghost. im going to try putting the 2500 rpm 92mm fan on one of the low noise adapters noctua has, it says it lowers its rpm by about 30%, to match the 1850 rpm of the 120mm fan more evenly then connecting both those with a y cable to the cpu header. that should balance the noise and airflow
This cooler is very tempting, unfortunately I'll have to find and alternative to the stock am4 mount, as I've pretty much ruined the bracket with the solution I have now.
@@Zakariat89 I actually Already bought and installed it. I arrives earlier today, and it was not exactly a cakewalk to install. Had to rip the heatsink of both RAM and m.2 ssd (asus x470-i mobo, if surious), but at the end of the dat, I got it installed, including a 120 noctua 15mm (i think). As it happens, the cooler is pretty much the same height as the Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B, which I was using before, using a horrible homemade conversion solution, although there's less room below, and it's positioned differently. Only issue right now is that I now have 2 CPU fans, one of which has to be considered a case fan, and I'm not really sure how to best handle that. Still, while the noise it constant, it is pretty low and I have yet to hear any ramping up, as I did before, so cooling is most certainly better. The case I'm using is the silverstone milo ml01, again, if curious, and I'd say thinks are looking up.
Finished moving the last pieces into the new apartment, so content will back to the usual pace real soon.
Also, stream tomorrow over @ www.twitch.tv/optimum_tech, probably around 8pm PST.
X570 chipset cooler needs to be removed for Black Ridge. Then what do you recommend to cool the chipset?
A full build with this cooler would be nice.
@@brentgreeff1115 soon!
Do you think this could be squished into an s4 mini case? With a little bending?
G'day from Sydney.
Hella cool stream. Do you have your secret sauce on OBS settings documented?
Or is that a "I could tell you, but then I'd have to eliminate you" kinda question?
Uses a Noctua competitor cooler with a Noctua fan: Outstanding move!
It's called being thorough. Can you imagine the REEEEEEE! that would ensue here if he didn't? Even the creators of the cooler has probably thought of this, when they included mounting brackets for 120mm fans.
@@Kenny_Ded I know it was just a joke
@@Kenny_Ded no, actually, I can't see the REEEEE. This cooler should stand on its own merits with the included fan. Where would it end if we swapped various parts to make a new part look better. Your argument is a dead duck. Quack.
For ITX it's always more important how coolers work with the best Fans. At the end everyone who wants a near Silent PC uses mostly Noctua fans.
tonebonetones “Where would it end if we swapped various parts to make a new part look better”
Hello, welcome to SFF enthusiast building, I see youre new here! It’s okay, I’ll help you out. Our first stop is r/sffpc on reddit where you’ll see pictures upon pictures of people swapping various parts trying to find the best cooling set up in the most minimal design. Rule #1, it never ends.
Alpenfohn is such an underrated company, good showcase man.
so was artic cooling.
it blocks the fucking pci slot wat
the company name is EKL. Alpenföhn is the heatsink name.
alt ll4lO5lO3lO4ll6 in most use cases the pcie slot is connected via a riser cable anyways
@@aa65064 obviously, you cant get to it otherwise? but then it also defeats the purpose unless you are going for only low profile and dont care about anything outside of one dimension.
I also was implying that it couldnt possibly be the "LP Noctua killer" for that reason. In any capacity.
I'm coming from using a Noctua NH-L12S, 70mm inside my Loque Ghost S1 II. I bent the heat pipes to cram it into the Ghost and it still lightly touches the side panel. So I just installed the Alpenfohn Black Ridge in my Loque Ghost S1 II and it's simply amazing.
I replaced the stock Alpenfohn Black Ridge 92mm fan with a slim Noctua 92mm (Noctua A-Series NF-A9x14) and installed slim Noctua 120mm (Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM) on the top of the CPU cooler (both fans blowing onto the motherboard) and I still have about an 8-millimeter gap between the top-mounted slim 120mm fan the side panel. It looks as if I might even be able to install a full-sized 120mm fan rather than the slim 120mm fan.
My normal CPU temps with the Noctua NH-L12S ranged between 45 to 65 degrees with an aggressively very low fan curve (lowest fan speed until 45 degrees, 50% fan speed at 65 degrees).
Using the exact same fan curve but with the Alpenfohn Black Ridge and the two Noctua fans, my temps now range from 35 to 52.
Thank you so much for making this video! I couldn't be happier with this product. It's more compact, works better, and yes I agree with you, it's a damn good looking heatsink.
John Whalen, Jr. what motherboard do you have if you don’t mind me asking?
Asus STRIX Z370-I with an Intel i7 8086K
PSA: The only B450/X470 board it fits is Asus Strix, if you remove the M.2 heatsink. Luckily, Alpenfohn released alternative mounting kits that should allow it to be mounted on ASRock and Gigabyte boards. They can be found at british Overclockers and german Caseking for couple of pounds/euro.
PSA 2: There are 2 versions of this cooler. The older V1 version is not being made anymore due to some manufacturing issues...you can recognize it by its matte black coating. The fixed V2 version is what's currently being sold and it has this "gunmetal/nickel black" shinier coating...
It's also the best cooler you can fit in the chinese K39 v2 case (and a couple of similar Taobao cases), which allows you to make a killer gaming system in a 4-5-4.7 liter case with an RTX 2070 ITX GPU...
How exactly does the mounting bracket work? I don't see any way around the X570 chipset fan.
I'm using it on a b450 aorus itx board. So I guess I have the new mounting brackets?
fun fact: i didn't and it broke one of the chokes off of my motherboard and i had to replace it
Tnx
Can confirm. I use it with the ROG Strix Gaming B450i board and the M2 heatsink had to come off.
@@MKR3238 It's possible, maybe they included them in fresh batches of the cooler...?
I just ordered VLP ram and a black ridge cooler! Super excited. I also ordered a VERY old set of VLP server ram to harvest the black heat spreaders for keeping my purple Adata ram cool.
Wish me luck! All the parts are coming from different parts of the world, hopefully I will be able to make a truly beautiful set up in my black K39 case.
being a fan of small form factor computers, these kind of coolers are something I look for. Good set of tests sir. Thank you.
Hose2wAcKiEr Depends on how much I wish to push thru. ;)
The camera work! jeeeeeez
I would love to see some dB normalized comparisons of those low profile coolers. I think this is a better way of directly comparing the coolers/Fans.
Thanks for the awesome sff videos still 😁
I think something very important to note with this cooler is that it can block the top pci-e slot requiring your gpu to use a riser cable. Of course this isn't an issue with the Dan A4 it's designed for, but say you get the cooler in preparation for moving to a smaller case further down the line, you may not be able to use the cooler until you also have the case.
Very important note here: the noctua NF-A9x14 used in the video is 0.21 Amps but you can only purchase the NF-A9x14 0.11 Amps from retailers. The 0.21A version only comes with noctua's heatsinks. The difference can be up to 10ºC, please up this to it can be known.
Important EDIT: The 0.21A fan you are looking for (also in black) is Noctua NF-A9x14 HS-PWM
The 0.21A version is now available in retail (A9x14 chromax). It has the same 2500 RPM @12v as the A9x14 sold with noctua heatsinks like the L9a
"that looks tricky to mount..."
"... just screw it in FROM THE BACK OF THE BOARD"
... why... didn't I think of that before? that's actually genius lol
2:40
Oof! That bending pins...
cannot unwitness it.
Said to be Noctua Killer. Then recommends you to change fan to a Noctua Fan
About a year ago i was set on going for a SFF high end build but later reconsidered after realizing what a PITA SFF is and the amount of compromise especially when space isn't an issue. Opting to keep a mid tower build will let me reuse parts like the DH-15 and PSU as well, still cool seeing whats possible when you use every inch of space available.
Hooray! I'm so glad you got around to reviewing this cooler! I've been using it in my Ghost since the corrected revision launched, and I use the Prolimatech Ultra Sleek Vortex 140mm slim fan on top with great success! I plan to migrate everything over to my Sentry 2.0 once it arrives, so I'm glad to see it beats the C7G even though I picked one of those up, too. Great work as always, Ali!
Which motherboard do you use I'm researching what to buy as I'm going from atx to itx
@@joaquinmesquita5629 ASROCK Z390 Phantom Gaming ITX
An english review, finallyyyyyyyyyyyy
Saw it on Caseking with the Dan A4 and I was wondering how it performs
Finally! A comprehensive review on this cooler. Thankyou so much
Alpenföhn make really good coolers, I've got the Olymp in my Ryzen system. Great performance and looks amazing!
I love the windows in the background with the lights
I also got the cooler with my DAN A4 for an additional 20 bucks and swapped to the noctua, it's so much quieter but I didn't change the fan direction
Maybe I should try that
You need to always run it as an intake. You also need an airduct in the DAN A4, because although the distance to the side panel isn't far, the holes are too restrictive. The fan will suck recycled air from within the case without it. Just a simple taped on cardboard duct is enough. I've seen someone in the SFF forum drop 15° C with that.
@@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV thx a bunch for the advice, something I will definitely do in the future :)
Bought one of these a while ago for my SFF build, I run it in the Kolink Rocket with a 92mm slim Noctua fan under, and recently added a 120mm slim Noctua fan on top, standing the side panel of the case by a cm with some standoff posts. Looks a tad goofy, buy my R5 3600 now runs nice and cool, and boosts a bit higher as a result. Very happy that the Black Ridge is getting some recognition!
Thanks for this, just got my Black Ridge in the post and handily have a spare A9x14 I can swap out the standard fan and pop in the right way around - going in to a Raijintek Ophion (when it gets delivered) it sounds like I have the clearance to put a 120x25 on top aswell as I have a clearance of about 90mm according to the spec sheet and even with the extra fan that's still just 72mm.
You've saved me a heap of time testing the push/pull and fan noise differences - cheers!
Love your vids bro. The cinematography is fucking excellent.
Great work as always, top quality review. This channel is gold for PC enthusiast! Keep it up!
It can run 3900x stock with 2 noctua fan setup, better than cryorig c7g, and noctua l9x65. But temp will be high, around 90-ish and almost hit max (95°)
Looks great. I'm just hoping noctua releases a slim 92mm fan in chromax like the one on the new chromax l9i. I would love to use that fan instead of the stock one to keep that sleek color scheme.
Omg, or even better if they release a slim 120mm chromax fan to use on top🤤
Great review as always. 2 suggestions for future videos: 1) NCase M1 V6 review (I'm sure you're planning on it) and 2) A video/tutorial on modding a FlexATX PSU with a Noctua 40mm fan for the Velka 3.
thankfully he ended up doing both
You should try it in the Ghost, my Black Ridge outperforms my L12 both in thermals and acoustics when I use a slim Noctua on top of it.
Nohr I got a Asus B450i with low profile memory.
Already have a Black Ridge, was thinking to get Scythe Big Shuriken 3 for a new build with 65mm cooler clearance then remember this video, re-watched and now the Big Shuriken 3 is out! This cooler in dual fan mode is just a beast!
Because I want to get a nicer HTPC setup, I'm switching to the Node 202 soon. The info about the Noctua fan might have just saved my ears, as I really like my PCs to be whisper quiet, especially when they're not working hard.
Thanks for the insightful video!
It's be great if you could do an apples to apples test between the low profile coolers. Your data has too many variables to be useful at the moment with variance in fan RPM. Might be worth having a standard 120mm fan at a certain RPM used to test out all the 120mm coolers and the same with the 92mm coolers just to give a raw baseline of the difference between the base heatsinks.
Other than that great video/shots.
(This was meant to be constructive rather than critical btw, just from an end user perspective I'd love to see which cooler unit actually performs best with fan/RPM/ambient being equal)
looks interesting at first... but not so interesting after all, at least for my louqe ghost. The L9x65 offers pretty similar performance without the issue of fitting in biffy MB like the Aorus X570i. Could be great with the combo of A9x14 + A12x25 for temps, but I will get the same issue of noise as with the L9x65, as the fan is too close of the side panel and makes a jet wisthle noise... For aircooling the louqe ghost, the best solution for now is a slightly bent L12S, and if the fan doesnt fit like on the X570i, you swap it for a A9x14, so you get a custom made L12 non S. And you can use the original fan as a case fan.
I just wanna say that I love your lighting
Might finally do a node 202 build now
For a case that will hold the Alpehfoen Black Ridge with an A12x25 fan on top may I suggest the 5.9 liter Yiluka YLK 01 case with a 95 mm cooler height limit. Using for my current APU build. The taller NH-L12 Ghost edition also fits in this case with the A12x25 fan on top with enough space from the case top panel to eliminate any turbulence noise.
Thanks to your reviews i have become a sff lover. First i have built a fractal design node 304 super budget itx case. Then i have tried NZXT Manta and it was too big didnt like it, now i am using InWIn A1 Plus and it is absolutely perfect for my need. You always try premium cases such as dan case or ncase or loque but i think it is time to try inwin a1 plus.
I will also looking for a loque but way expensive and try to find a bargain or second hand or else it is too much.
Keep doing what you do mate, cheers from Sweden.
I have 6 of these in my servers working 24/7 on heavy load and cooling works perfectly!
Same with NH-L12S, the cooler works better when you orient the fan to pull air (downdraft) when in low profile mode.
finally, an English language review
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The mounting of the Black Ridge on AM4 is horrible to say the least. The poor mainboard was bending. Luckily I had the Noctua L9 backplate available...
Wish this was out when I was finishing my NCASE M1 build. I went with the NF-A9 92mm and put a second fan on it and called it a day. I was told by other builders that the L12 had clearance issues in the NCASE M1. Oh well.
Man I wish Noctua had their ANC fans out already!!! I think the Nidec Servo Gentle Typhoon still beats the stock AF-12 in noise-normalized testing (at least for the first year), but regardless, wow the competition for quiet is FIERCE!
7:00 min This is why ur top Notch video production quality. Thx i searched everywhere for this. Liked and subbed.
Nice cooler, but unfortunately it has a design flaw that makes using it with a 120mm Noctua fan a literal headache: the standoffs for the stock 92mm fan are too long so when using a 120mm fan the blades can hit them and cause a clacking/rattling sound. I don't know if it's just mine since I don't see anyone else complaining about it, but I had to cut them off and grind them down using a dremel. It's finally silent after doing that though.
Max ram height supported as per Alpenföhn documentation is 33mm, for anyone interested.
finally a good SFF cooler from Alpenföhn
For half of the price of Alpenföhn Black Ridge one can get ID Cooling IS 60 with performance on par or better than BR. And it perfectly fits Node 202 (56mm with the fan)! Just replace the supplied fan with Noctua NF-A12x15. Superior cooling and noise performance.
I love the view of your new setup
Look sooooooooooooooooo clean
For reference, I have a Scythe Big Shuriken 3 with an NF-A12x25 PWM on my i9-9900KF and it does an adequate job at stock settings. I'm slightly undervolted and get temperatures in the high 70's while gaming. My system is in an FTZ01-E.
Nice one, thanks for showing it up!
Have to say thank you very much for the review, using this with a slim 120mm fan on top with a 3700X and it's awesome. The Cryorig copper thermally ran away with 29C ambient.
I may do this with a 5800x if its possible!
@@lawrencecorr6232 check out this. Thermalright AXP-100 Full Copper. This with a decent fan I think will be amazing even on high core count
@@jamespcorbett Looks a beast! Been looking for copper options but there doesn't seem to be a lot on the market. Reckon you could swap out the fan for a NF-A9x14 or similar Noctua?
Excellent as always... Get that VLP memory for a dual slim 120mm fan setup... Thx 👍😎
Noctua has also released a black low profile cooler. As in black heatsink, it looks nice.
Love that 'case' at the 7:08 mark whatever it is
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I thought this was a pretty cool review. I have moved to water cooling for all of my newest builds but seeing an awesome air cooler like this makes me consider doing an air cooled rig next time because those temps are perfectly acceptable if your using certain CPUs
Slight correction, a quick Google search reveals the height of the black ridge to be 6563 feet, and is located in Utah. On the bright side, this gives us more clearance for ram than previously expected.
Slight correction, we had a different mountain in mind. But with 1118m in height, it just should fit, too.
Perfect VIDEO work / imaging
Dan a4 v4 user with this cooler here. Definitely recommend it if u go with air cool in the a4, but the installation is quite difficult at first if u have asus board, and some x570 itx might not be compatible due large excessive vrm heatsink so might check it first beforehand.
It will be nice to go to a store and test fit this cooler before going all in
i got my black ridge v2 today. idle temp around 42 celcius, prime 95 full load 95 celcius.
b450i strix, ryzen 5 3600. i use a noctua a9x14, intake setup. my memory is lpx 3200c16 x 2.
aw 95 degree...did you have a pic of your rig?
already ordered r5 3600 and I have is nh-l9a cooler, I wonder if my cooler is enough to game on it...
Recently i have undervolt my 3600 . Now it running at 4.0ghz 1.025 vcore. With amd stock fan it reach only 80C at 100% load. Idle temp approx 45C.
@@ericwang3579 ah really do u underclocking r5 3600 using black ridge v2? which case do u use?
I already got my r5 3600 today and go trough update bios for my motherboard to suit this new ryzen...
I also have the B450 I Gaming motherboard from Asus. Do I have to remove the heatsink from the M.2 slot? And does the SSD still work without the heatsink? Would love to use the Black Ridge Cooler tho
Nice lighting today.
I'm torn between Pallas120 and Black ridge... Both gorgeous, low, great cooling....
I am so envy of your chair. I got same but in golden brown (only option available in Russia) and wanted black one
Imma do it. I'm gonna run the 3900x with the vlp, no case, 120mms all around the club...Imma do it.
You cant stop me.
Didn't do the research and bought this cooler for Asus Z390-I Strix.. wont fit because of massive VRM "heatsink". Filed ~5mm away from the cooler corner to make it fit. Also G.Skill Ripjaws heat spreaders wont fit under this cooler so had to tear them apart. In Sliger SM550 there is no room for top cooler so at some point have to find some vlp ram and slim 120mm under the cooler..
You should take a look at the ID-Cooling IS-60, it's 55mm tall with the 120 slim fan that it comes with and it's also got 6 heatpipes.
Still too tall for many cases that this 47mm cooler was designed for.
Hello there @Optimum Tech!
Amazing review! Love your work. Inspired me to get my own Dan A4. Noise would be the main concern for this build, so which would be quieter? Black Ridge or Asetek 645LT?
Leiser ist der Black Ridge aber der macht bei AM4 langsam das mainbord kaputt also Asetek
I wish I could find a quality video like this on the Noctua NH-C14S and the Thermalright APX-100.
I wish you would have shown a GPU mounted to the Motherboard because from what it looked like in this video was that CPU cooler covered the PCIe slot. If so then that too would limit the type of case and mean that you would need a PCIe Riser cable.
Love your SFF PC content. I'm running a 3600X in a Silverstone SG13B paired with a Noctua NH-L12S. While running Realbench as a stress test it can get upto 81C with a room temp of 16C. This CPU gets a bit toasty. I think it's time to undervolt.
The all important question - does it fit on the Phantom gaming z390 itx?
Yes, got mine today.
So it should fit on a Z270 itx, then? (MSI)
@@Waldreth And will it be enough to cool an Intel i9-9900K with provided cooler on ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac ?
If so, and it perfectly fits the mobo inside the Louqe ghost S1, then that's what I want!
What motherboard is he using in this video?
Can’t help wonder, does this fit into Louqe Ghost
Phenix HSIEH Yes it does even with the fan on top, better choice than l12
Luis Kirschning thanks, planning to have a new build next month, but it’s difficult to get a L12 now
I have the aorus x570i,, dose this fit, i have the ghost S1??
Do you think motherboard manufacturers or aftermarket companies offering custom fin design VRM cooling solutions would help solve this? A super beefy version of this (with fin cutouts for Ram clearance) designed only for a pull configuration would make this thing an "everything killer" and would be a cool solution when AMD moves APU's 7nm + Navi graphics, as motherboard designers might not need the exra PCIE x16 slot, or that slot could be used with an IO card to add extra PCIE devices and NVME.
I have this! I had to order from overclockers uk. Didn't use it yet but glad s review came out.
I just found out that the Alpenföhn black ridge is cheaper that Noctua nf-L12
I would really like to see a comparision between low profile air coolers (like the l9 and this one) and similarly priced 120mm AIOs in SFF cases
I’m not a doctor, but it seems that you could conceivably cool a 3900x if you combined it with ULP memory and a 120mm fan. Would be very curious to see how that combo would work and what kind of temps you would get. Maybe the boost clocks would get clobbered but I think you could get at/above 4ghz
I’m not willing to avoid warrantees by delidding a brand new $400 plus CPU, And Noctua fixed my aesthetic problems I finally releasing the NH - L9i in black. That paired with a duct should cool something like a 3700x or 9700 (non k) in my new Dan A4 without any issue, which is better performance per dollar anyway for someone like me why doesn’t need more than 8 cores
Can we get some more reviews on this, particularly in the SM560/SM550 cases.
Not sure if I’d getter better performance from better RAM (the only vlp I can find is kinda slow) or from the bigger fan.
The LZMOD cases and the warhead deepdash can fit the 72mm...atleast on paper
Nice vídeo. Congratulations. I was waiting for this cooler a long time.
Dang fine cooler - perhaps a Scythe Kaze Flex or a Noctua NF-F12 iPPC-2000 PWM for efficiency. I'm in!
(Cooling for AMD 2600X)
Comparing some charts on your other videos, it seems like this cooler out performs some 92mm AIO coolers by about 7.6 degrees at 500rpm lower and some 120mm AIO by 16.2 degrees at only 150rpm more, all while being only 0.3dBA higher but at 100rpm lower. But they're was no noise test for the dual noctua fan set up so I'm unsure how quiet that would be.
You should really add the Shadow Rock LP to the testing list, cause this cooler is great I'm using it with a noctua slim fan in my ghost s1, although a bit snug it works and temps are great. I'm using a 3700x btw.
im a fan of low profile coolers, i always do that heat pipes always facing the rams and heat pipes fins facing the vram heatsink so it wont interface with the gpu
@Optimum Tech - Would love to see the ghost case with the stronger pump!
I have a total empty space of 82mm. The mb is going to be mounted upside down to save as much space as I can. The CPU fan will probably be the only fan in the system. I plan to cool a R5 3600. I love the BS3, I'm also a big fan of Noctua. Exotic things don't scare me. What would you pick? Samuel 17 with a fitting A12, BS3, L12S or Black Ridge + A9 & A12? Since the fan it's going upside down and act as intake I can trim a bit of space from this case (Nintendo NES 8 bit Mattel).
The base of the cooler (where it meets the IHS) is painted black. I would think this would affect thermal transfer from the IHS and into the cooler drastically. I wonder if sanding this with high grit would improve performance. Not that I am planning to do that but I am curios...
Niche review! surprised intake works better
is it the same in-case? my l12s didnt
Heatsink covering the pcie slot seems like a good decision (because sffs with that much cooler height use riser cable anyway)
Get some VLP memory and fit a 120 slim fan! The performance is great!
nice review - what happens with the pins at 2:43 ouch ... ;)
Thanks for the review. Perhaps you could add a price comparison to the various coolers after the cooling performance comparison.
GarrettRD if you follow the link in description you’ll see it.
@@CaffeineAndMylanta Yes, but that's not what I meant. I'll edit my comment.
GarrettRD I agree it would be nice, but prices fluctuate so frequently, any pricing he listed would probably be outdated by the time the video went live.
also the viewership here is international so you’d have to list several vendors from different nations.
Still have the Atlas from them. Awesome cooler!
The dual fan setup, do other coolers support this? Might be a nice selling point and perhaps the better option for a silent configuration (2 slow spinning fans vs 1 fast spinning).
Not in a way that I know of. The Black Ridge allows the bottom fan to be screwed into standoffs on the heatsink, instead of clips / retention brackets
The Dark Rock TF supports 2 fans and has dual heatsinks. Much larger form factor.
Sliger Conswole case with Alpenfohn Black Ridge + NF-A12x25 ooof
hi really like ur review ! keep it on, any chance can you do the sycthe jitte plus cooler review?
Can we see that chart updated with competitors with noctua fan swaps? like the cryorig C7 graphene with a noctua fan, Ranjitek Pallas 120 with noctua fan etc.
waiting on my mine im setting it up with 2 noctua fans for my ghost. im going to try putting the 2500 rpm 92mm fan on one of the low noise adapters noctua has, it says it lowers its rpm by about 30%, to match the 1850 rpm of the 120mm fan more evenly then connecting both those with a y cable to the cpu header. that should balance the noise and airflow
Hey! How did that work out for you? thinking about doing this in my gfs ghost. Thanks in advance!
This cooler is very tempting, unfortunately I'll have to find and alternative to the stock am4 mount, as I've pretty much ruined the bracket with the solution I have now.
very TEMPting indeed
@@Zakariat89 I actually Already bought and installed it.
I arrives earlier today, and it was not exactly a cakewalk to install. Had to rip the heatsink of both RAM and m.2 ssd (asus x470-i mobo, if surious), but at the end of the dat, I got it installed, including a 120 noctua 15mm (i think).
As it happens, the cooler is pretty much the same height as the Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B, which I was using before, using a horrible homemade conversion solution, although there's less room below, and it's positioned differently.
Only issue right now is that I now have 2 CPU fans, one of which has to be considered a case fan, and I'm not really sure how to best handle that.
Still, while the noise it constant, it is pretty low and I have yet to hear any ramping up, as I did before, so cooling is most certainly better.
The case I'm using is the silverstone milo ml01, again, if curious, and I'd say thinks are looking up.