When To Upgrade Your CPU For Gaming? Life Cycle of the CPU! - Tech Deals
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Running my B550m, 5800x, 3060ti, 32gb ram, gen4 nvme. Built in Nov. 2021. Monitor 27" 1080 x 60. Can max any game I play (Hogwarts & Fortnite mostly). Can edit my YT videos no problem and fast rendering. No plan to upgrade for years still. Got 7 years out of my last PC.
Hey Tech! It is I, the legally blind accountant with enough money and severe eye strain that prevents me from enjoying my gaming PC most of the time. I’ve missed a ton of game time to eye strain over the 10 months I’ve had my 7800X3D + 4090 PC, but sometimes I remember the 20-20-20 rule and step outside often enough in the day to feel better. When I do, man oh man, the top of the line PC is awesome, whether I’m juggling huge Excel spreadsheets, playing laggy tower defense games, or playing Cities Skylines 2, it just runs. The power is there, the software is mature, and the experience is unrivaled. It’s better than a console at just working! My question is: I’m not sure when I’ll adopt a new game again, but I might keep building bigger in the games I play now. My 4090 is adequate to Cities. Should I continue to buy all the CPU every generation, or can I wait until Zen 6 to unlock more simulation headroom?
I believe that Red Light Therapy, and having screens at two different distances in your office that you can switch between will both help with your eyesight/eyestrain.
20 20 20 rule?
Every 20 minutes, take 20 seconds to look at something 20 feet away.
I'm still running a 17-7700k with a 1070. I would like upgrade but I just needed to build my wife a new system because her 10 year old laptop was about to die. I'm hoping to upgrade next year.
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Good man
Ive had my 5900x since 2021 and i recently upgrade my 3070(and sold it for 300) to a 7900xt . I plan on riding this system at least until am6 starts cause i feel like im not gonna get the best value jumping mid way into am5. My 5900x with pbo and curve optimizer is more than sufficient for my upcoming needs along with the 7900xt. I feel like some people are having fomo with their parts lol.
Mind you the previous desktop pc i built(my first ever build) before my 5900x was an i7860 and gtx 470 combo with 8gb ddr3 ram from 2010. Lol if i had waited for am5 i literally would have went from ddr3 to ddr5 as an upgrade lol but i really needed a computer for other things hence why unfortunately i hopped on am4 just as it was ending essentially. The reason for not upgrading sooner was because im in the military and me being out and constantly traveling and moving didn't give me time for upgrades.
I upgraded from an X99 system built in 2015 to 3800X in 2020. First time I ever took more than 18 months for a new system build since the mid 90s. I did midcycle to RTX 3070 close to year and a half ago but its been 4 years was thinkin new build time....... then 6 weeks ago when I started looking at pricing said forget it and just got a 5900X. Im with you, I will keep this until AM6 or if Intel does something interesting. I do not think I will feel bad about waiting. It will do everything I want it too until then.
Still rocking a 3900x and a 6800xt. I do not upgrade unlesd I have to do it. New tech is great but not bring broke is better. Plus games like COD @ 200fps and COD @ 120 fps is not much of a difference
I recommend selling the 3900x and replacing it with the 5800x3d.
@@45enoExactly holding on to hardware tell it’s old and irrelevant is a horrendous idea. I upgrade my 90 class GPU’s every 2 years so I can sell it for %85 of what I paid for. The same goes for motherboards and CPU’s as well. Just sell it every 3 years and do a bundle with CPU and motherboard. Aside from that why are you pairing a low end 6 core 7600 with a high end 670x? I recommend the 7800x3d because it will last for years to come.
Up until a few months ago I was still running an i-5 6600k with a GTX 970. It still was abel to run most games I play just fine at 1080p. I mostly upgraded to a 5600X and RX 6700XT so that I could run Windows 11 and be able to run the DCS flight sim at a good resolution. I had tried to upgrade sooner but with rising prices that then led to the whole chip shortage and overpriced hardware it just did not make financial sense.
Fax, if your just gaming especially at 1080p and 1440p what else do you need for right now? I have a 5800x3d and 4070ti, 32GB ram and i dont feel pressured to upgrade at all because it runs legit every triple A game with great fps at these resolutions. If this is able to run GTA 6 fine when it comes out than i for sure as hell wont upgrade anything.
I've actually did just built my second pc to a 5800x3d/ 7800xt / 32gb, coming from a 4690k/ GTX 970 / 8gb. Bought everything under $1000. I was long over due for an upgrade, but I'll probably do the same with it and wait on to few generations. I wonder if I can run Crysis now?
@@chrisabanil2130 I’ve heard of crisis being a terribly optimized game , I’ve never tried it though. I will tell you this though , I went from a i74790 non k to my 5800x3d and it’s a night and day difference in cyberpunk .
@@chrisabanil2130Why did you waste your money going AM4 that’s a terrible idea. AM4 is only good if your already own the platform not buying into it as a new platform.
I7 4790k two GTX 1080Ti in SLI 32Gb DDR3 2400MHZ still going strong.
If you are able to play the games that you want, the way you want, then no need for an upgrade. Just because your PC hardware is old doesn't mean it has to be changed. Change when it is proving to be insufficient to do what you want it to do.
As hardware becomes more expensive then it also needs to last longer. The good think is that a zen 3 + rtx 3080/3090 has pretty good lasting value.
Agreed. My 3900x and 3080ti will last at least another 3-5 years before I'll consider upgrading.
@@Quacker_Gaming As will my 5950x and 3090.
@@ZygmunatorNice I had that combo back in 2020 to 2022.
I bought the alienware aw3225qf. I had to upgrade to a 4080s to push the thing like i wanted
still rocking 3900x and 3070 i play older games so ill wait until i want something new
Same here
Good point. Up until a few months ago I was still running an i-5 6600k with a GTX 970. It played most of my older games just fine at 1080p. I mostly upgraded to a 5600X and RX 6700XT so that I could run Windows 11 and the DCS flight sim at a good resolution as the sim was making my old setup show it's age with every update.
I've got a 5950x and 6900xt toxic extreme with on odyssey G9. Getting crazy numbers on FSR 3.0 at 5k. Literally no point in upgrading until next year, top tier 2023 machines are only 15% faster than my tuned machine.
No Disrespect, but the setup your son have if i had it, i would continue using that for another 3 year's.
Still using 3600 with a 2060.😢
Ryzen 3600 is still a good chip
That is a fine combo! If it does what you need it to, that system will be fine for years and years to come.
If you got a 5700X it would blow your mind. I had a 3600 and a 1660 super, and getting the 5700X and just keeping my GPU worked awesome, you have a 2060 you are surely leaving performance on the table. Later on I did upgrade to a 3070 TI
@@itstheweirdguy Yeah, the Ryzen 5000 is a very nice inexpensive performance bump over the 3000 without needing a new MOBO.
I got a 5900x and I plan on running it for good few more years.@@itstheweirdguy
It is kind of an opportunity cost you pay for the 4090. Limited wafers means you pay premium. They can make and sell AI chips as much as they want. Why would they make less money as a company.
I saw a huge increase in 1% and 0.1% lows when I switched from my overclocked 9900k to a Ryzen 7700x. I bought an RTX 4080 to use with my 9900k but it was almost unplayable in Tiny Tina's Wonderland and Hell Let Loose, the stutter was absolutely off the charts. Switching to the 7700x helped so much and I am now having an awesome gaming experience.
The 9900k paired well with my RTX 2080 Super but it was just bottlenecking my 4080 in certain games.
I will say that I am on the autism spectrum and I am overly sensitive to stutter, screen tearing and flickers.
I'm still running an i9 9900k with a RX 6700xt. Will definitely be doing a completely new build when Zen 5 comes out.
I have a 3080 TI overclock to 2100 megahertz and a 5900 X curve optimized and I ordered an MSI 341CQP OLED. And I am still not going to upgradAe my graphics card until 50 Series or my CPU until zen 5. Perfectly comfortable lowering some settings to make it work. I generally like to follow the rule of upgrading every other cycle
every other cycle for sure. otherwise upgrades won't be nearly as noticeable.
@@andrewhill9707 yep
Nice I have a Ryzen 7 7800x3d paired with a RTX 3080 12gb EVGA FTW3 Ultra.
@ZackSNetwork nice. I just changed my order to the aienware AW3225QF and will return the MSI 341CQP wen it arrives .aslo Its really gonna tax my rig until I rebuild tho. didn’t feel like dealing with ultrawide and Aw3225qf has gen 3 panel....will be rebuilding cpu, gpu, ram and mobo next cycle so figured to jump to 4k oled now as my first peice while waiting for next cycle of gpu/cpu to come out
Hey guys! Are you still on youtube? I hope everything is ok.
I have a 5950x and a 4090 at 1440p 170hz and i have a 1080p 144hz secondary monitor is it time to upgrade my cpu?
A 4090? Upgrade your monitor are you crazy!? spend at least $1,500 on your new monitor. oled, 4k 65” all bells all whistles.
if i could id take your 5950x lmao I would say it depends what you use your pc for as the 5950x bottlenecks the 4090 in alot of games and as tech says if you have 4090 money then you have the money for a new cpu or you dont have 4090 money
@@Raptorlake i was thinking about getting 1440p 240hz oled asus monitor
@@InnoSZN yea i guess idk i mostly just play older games or ones not that demanding ill probably wait for the next ryzen chips
stick on your set up. maybe you can upgrade your room, peripherals
As a 5700x/3080 owner, I completely agree with this advice
My 2070 super is still running cool and great it is liquid cooled.
Would love to see more with pcvr. Pc specs are really different especially when streaming to a quest 3. This is where things like the 5800x3d and 7800x3d makes sense even am4 now. I had to go from my great 5900x to a 5800x3d with a 7900xtx to not be bottlenecked by the CPU.
Got a 5900x rtx 3090 and 64gb ddr4 3200 and I’m not upgrading no time soon.
Incredible PC dude that 3090 is an absolute monster. Having 24gbs of vram and with its rasterization on par with a 4070ti it will last for a while.
Amazon has a 1tb NVMe for $68 now HP EX900 Plus 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2 Interface SSD, GEN 3 x 4, 8 Gb/s, 2280 3D NAND Up to 3300 MB/s
First World Problems, IF you have the $$$ burning a hole in your Pocket...I provide Tech support for 3 households with limited funds. I threw in my support for AM4 Platform when initial teething issues were ironed out. 6 blissful years with 3 PC's & 2 DIY Servers, my grandson has a 3900X/RTX2070oc, I use a 5900X/RX7900XT & the family Gaming PC is a 5800X3D/RTX3070Ti; the servers use a 1700X & 2700X CPU. Love the ability to recycle my parts in a productive manner and keep costs down to a minimum (One exception was the EVGA RTX3070Ti was I purchased prior to the Crypto Crash ($830 direct from EVGA, 9 mo. on their waiting list.).
Exact same CPU and GPU and my only complaint is the lack of VRAM. I'm fine playing new AAA graphical intensive games at 60FPS as long as it is consistent which it isn't with most games that make use of RT at 4K with a 3080.
My rx 5700xt and ryzen 5 5600 setup is still a champ for 1 monitor gaming, especially with fsr being implemented often now.
You upgrade when your hardware no longer meets your needs. For me I upgrade when my CPU and/or GPU starts to run the most demanding games(that aren't a poorly optimized mess) below 60fps. Or my workflow is being slowed down by my PC rather than me.
The only reason I bought my 5900X was because @Tech Deals raved about it. I haven't used it in two years. Replaced it with a 5800X 3D. The 5800X 3D does, despite rumors, do way better running games. (IMHO)
What rumours? The 5800X3D is already well known to be the best gaming CPU on the entire AM4 platform.
@@Krenisphia Sometime TechDeals seems less than supportive of the 5800X3d. I was tip toeing around that.
I still have a 10th Gen Core i9 and a 3080. I don't need an upgrade.
I have Ryzen 5700x, 3080 and I play at 4K, no need to upgrade, because the old games run fine and the latest games have fsr3.
That mod gave at least 2-3 years more time with the graphics card.
I’ve got a 2500k 1070ti ready to upgrade. according to bottleneck website my cpu is bottlenecking my gpu, limiting its performance by 50%. if I replace my cpu with a 12600k I could potentially utilize all of my gpus performance. to do that I’ve gotta buy new cpu, motherboard, ram just to get the performance of my 1070ti. so what should I do? Should I build a new pc or just replace parts?
You are gonna be blown away by modern items. Look at a 12700k if you can float the difference. There isnt really a worthwhile upgrade for your current platform.
If you can afford a new build do that. But if you are budget constrained or playing a game mostly cpu bound, 12600K still will blow your socks off regardless. Have a 12700K (219 and tax= 231) was my first upgrade from 9600K ($200). Cured my game stutters. 12900K also is pretty good ($319). Mom has a 12400F build I still have to assemble from a B760M board I shuffled from 12700K build, before 12600K got much cheaper. Sales prices would be a factor. I found Z board a bit better in not power limiting but for ram you will need to pair and pick whether to go DDR4 or DDR5. I went last year DDR5, but DDR4 kits are reasonable also. Thermalright PA120 are fine budget coolers. Have a TR FS/FC cooler I've yet to swap out or use in a new build. You can also flash the boards for 14th gen compatibility. You could carry over the 1070ti for now or do a new build if you have funds in the budget for a new gpu. Also if you are still using 1080P you can get away with less GPU perhaps though I mostly play older style games. I had my second gen doing HTPC 1080P x264 on the iGPU. I have a GPU family range from 1060-1070-7900XTX, you could always try the upgrade and just do the gpu later if it isn't enough. Changing to 1440P gaming & 4K media was the biggest need to upgrade personally, from 1080P (about late 2019-2020). There is a visual difference between graphics cards over the years in clarity of image gaming also.
Im just tired of people bitching about gpu prices
The cost of making RTX 4090 (raw materials) is estimated to be around 350-400$. Way less than you might expect. It's mostly their greed unfortunately.
My general rule of thumb, is upgrade every other generation, or wait even longer if your machine still meets your needs. Also, never get them when they launch, wait for a price drop.
Meh I upgrade my 90 class GPU every generation. It gives me the next big performance leap and I can sell my card for %85 of what I paid for.
90 Class GPU's are way too expensive for me. I top out at 70 Class@@ZackSNetwork
5800x and rx 6800 had it for 3 years and still running my games great at 1440p. Then again I never play the latest and greatest titles so there’s that. 😂
Same here. Up until a few months ago I was still running an i-5 6600k with a GTX 970. It still ran most of my older games just fine at 1080p. I mostly upgraded to a 5600X and RX 6700XT so that I could run Windows 11 and the DCS flight sim at a good resolution.
The math hurt me.
300mm wafer means 150mm radius
150*150*3ish(pi) is ~70,000mm2
So Bout 115 chips per wafer (no defect)
115*.8 gives about 90 chips per wafer
30,000/90
About $330/chip
At least chat didnt get into a PEMDAS argument
yreah the stuff from 2017-2018ish, is so good, that you only need an update if you need 20% increase, which is not much, but cost a Ton, and if you are already can do everything you need with super Ease
I'm still using my 5800x 3080 TI I'm going to wait until then Zen 6 or Zen 7. Don't foresee me trying to play any unreal 5 games until the newer platforms and technologies come out.
Manufacturers would love to have your money and so does the economy.
400$ is the cost of TSMC making the chip not nvidia and on top of that you need to account for the euv machine duv machine electricity cost the salary of the engineer and specialist for tsmc .
The cost for TSMC to make the chip + its profit will then be passed to nvidia , and nvidia will need to source vram .From the latest news i read in 2023 was 8gb of gddr6 cost around 27$ so 24gb of it will be 100$++ and on top of that you need labour cost for soldering the chips thermal paste application assembling , heat sink production cost , the cost of the gpu board , power delivery , warranty claims , profit , marketing advertising , paying linus tech tips to say good things , shipping and so on .
and lastly it comes to your local supplier they will then mark up the price for profit .
Hi Tech,
I have a 2600x and Rx580 on 450 motherboard in ITX case. I use this as a back up pc in case my laptop misbehaves and to play World of Warcraft and other Blizzard games. This still works great. I have setting maxed with no issues, but I want to upgrade my screen from 29in FHD 21:9 to 34 in 1440 21:9 screen. Should I upgrade system now or wait few months ? I am only interested in AMD parts preferably ITX. Thank you in advance
I have a similar setup with a 5900X, 6800XT and 3600MHz 14-14-14-34 RAM. I think upgrade time will be with a theoretical 9800X3D on the CPU side. Considering a new GPU will be the most expensive part in this case. 2000 bucks for a 5090? I do not think it is worth for me but a 5080 for 1000, maybe.
I'd really like to see some more of those "dual mode" 1080P/4K screens. With how I spend money, It would be nice if those could be affordable. So I can run Windows at 4K, and if a game is too slow run it at 1080P and still be native!
I'm not upgrading my 5950 until next gen zen drops
I had a staggered upgrade at the beginning of last year from a Z370/8700K/2080ti to Z790/13700K/2080ti eventually upgrading to a 4090 and 1000 watt PSU this past Christmas. How long do you think a 13700K/4090 system will be playing games at 4K 60Hz/1440P 165Hz?
Ehh urs will last a while because youve spent so much for a comparitively pretty low end monitor lmao.
@@FrozokenIt wasn't low end when I bought it in 2017 (ACER Predator G-SYNC Curved Monitor Z321Qu 32 Inch 165Hz 1440p @ $540) My 4K 46 Inch 60Hz TV is newer by 2 years and only cost $300.
@@ScoutReaper-zn1rz Yeah I guess but u bought a 4090 then again if that's staggered too, fair enough
@@FrozokenYeah the 4090 was bought a year later after the mobo, ram, psu and m.2 drives. The last purchase was 2 weeks ago for the case (ROG Hyperion)
5800x and a 3060 ti, I'll be riding them out, next generation and upgrade the following.
This is probably a topic for another video but could you talk about ARM and if you foresee it playing a bigger role in gaming for the future.
Love you Tech 🎉🎉
Ya not me! Cause I went with a i9 12900
I love my 12900KF, my 12700KF also gets a lot of use. Flashed for 14th in case I upgrade again.
Not necessarily, but it can pay for itself. For me, I actually just bought a 5900x for $300 including tax from Canada computer because I have an existing am4 platform and I'm just cpu mining with it earning approximately $1 a day or 75 cents with the electricity cost. In less than a year, my cpu will be paid for or whatever price Bitcoin is at that time. You can also do that with any 7000 series if you want it to pay for itself. My gf bought a 7900 (Not the x because of the included wraith prism cooler) for $375 recently and while she's not using, she's cpu mining with it. The motherboard selection and prices are what's preventing me from upgrading to AM5 and I only do light gaming on my spare time, so I'm only using my 5600x that I bought from meta for $70 and a 3060 12 gb for $185.
I have an 1800x and 1080ti I think my motherboard (crosshair VI hero) has failled, screen froze and then died, now no display ouput or post, despite resetting the bios. my powersupply is an 850w, I was considering throwing money on the credit card and building a whole new system built to last again (as this has). I personally think the next gen of Ryzen and the 50 series cards will launch at the end of this year so would normally have waited. I'm thinking buying a crosshair VIII board (potentially a used one) and a 5800 which should then keep this system working and then building a whole new system at the end of the year.... Now though I'm wondering if it could be the graphics card - with no integrated graphics presumably you get no display if the graphics card goes?
Got a 3080 and ryzen 7700x plan on getting a 5070 or 5080 depending on price and performance uplift
I still rock an i7-4770k and a GTX 1080.
5900x and 6950xt here built in late 2022 should have waited couple more months and went next gen for the prices i paid. with that said, im not upgrading until next amd platform
I upgraded my 3080 to a 4090 after 2 years, pretty much only because of the Vram issue, otherwise a 3080 still works at 4k just fine. As for the 5900X, it's more of an issue for me than the 3080's low Vram, because once i've turned Ray Tracing off, there's nothing I can do to help performance for a bottlenecked CPU. Some graphics settings help, but most of the time it's so minor it's pointless, the 5900X is showing it's age in terms of core speed, but core count it's still overkill.
I'm planning on getting a 9950X later this year or whenever it launched. I personally don't think the 13900k or 7950X or any 3D chip is enough of an upgrade for what they cost, it'd be totally fine if I didn't need to buy entirely new Ram. If I had DDR5 already or if they were DDR4 it'd be worth the upgrade. The 5900X pushes a 4090 enough on a 4k 144hz monitor that a 7950X3D or 14900K wouldn't impress me at all. The only game that's given me grief is Hogwarts Legacy, aside from that, I'm fine not utilizing my 4090, that just means when I upgrade my CPU, I gain both CPU and GPU performance.
Wait it out baby!
Can confirm, I got a stupid good deal on a 14700k bundle for $520 within 2 weeks of release(chip, 790-h and 32GB ddr5 6000) to replace my 5900x. Noticed pretty much nothing with a 4070 at 1440p except the 1% lows in WoW. The 5900x has been repurposed as a work machine to replace the old 6700k that I was using for. Would have felt bad if I paid full price for that upgrade at the time(approx $830)
The 4070 is your bottleneck that’s why. An I7 14700k would pair best with a 4070ti Super or 4080 Super.
I have an Alienware aurora r7..8700/1080ti . Its 6+ years old. It was $2200 then..1080ti was like 1400 then fine could find them so got a prebuilt. What's a budget pre built gonna run me and what cpu/gpu should I look for in a prebuilt thats a smart upgrade over my current. I dont believe I cant replace my current CPU with anything new..mobo isn't compatible so I pretty much have to start over. Might even just keep my 1080ti to move to a new pc idk.
I think everyone should use their CPUs atleast the Ryzen 7 or i7 or above for 4-5 years. Then only you will get noticeable improvements. I saw person who upgraded from 4790k to 12700k. Its was worth the upgrade. I saw another person who went 4790k to 7700k than to 9900k than to 13700k. Thats just waste of money.
Personally I have 5800x and it runs fine. yes there are limitation here and there but mostly I am all good. From 5800x I will use for 2 more years and then upgrade to 17th gen intel or Ryzen 11000.
iv got a 5900x and have been wondering if il gain much going for 5800 x3d. specifically for dcs world in vr
If you’re only using your PC to game then you would definitely gain a performance boost.
save some cash consider the 5700x3d
@@user-dz3ph7dl4m I think il hang on for the next gen x3d tbh
I've been running DCS really well with a 5600X and RX 6700XT.
You are already close to the limit of the performance of what the AM4 socket can deliver with the 5900X. Unless DCS starts to studer in heavy multiplayer online play you are still good to go. And since DCS introduced multi trending support a few months ago the sim runs even better than before.
@@evoman44 multithreading made a big difference
3700X and 3060ti, bought and fully together in early 2021 (rig in Sept 2020, but the 3060ti wasn't available til January). I am going for a full rig replacement in 2025 probably, 5070 or 5070ti on either an 8800X or Intel 15th gen. Still on 1080p though, but I'll probably upgrade to a 144hz monitor or better.
Yeah, the 3060ti is already starting to rub into problems.
I heavily recommend 1440p at this point 1080p is meh especially in 2025.
Correction, a 4090 will lose value when a 5080 comes out! Why? Because nVidia is absolutely not going to sell their 5090 for $1699, as I would bet money that $1999 would be the MINIMUM price! The 5080 will be the 4090's closest competitor, which will likely sell for around $1200-1300 because it will still have no competition in the market from AMD until RDNA4 comes out. That is "very little value" to lose for anyone that has been using their 4090 for 2 years already! In fact, I would say that it doesn't even pay for nVidia to release a 5080 until they have completely sold through all of their 4090 chips, and even then it might still be cheaper for them just to keep making the 4090...
Except AMD isn't supposed to release anything above midrange for RDNA 4 so they'll likely be competing with the 5070 and below which, from I hear from Moore's Law is Dead, won't be coming out until 2025. Rumor has it that Nvidia will only be releasing a 5090 before the end of the year and AMD will only be releasing something around 7900XT performance for between $400 and $600. RDNA 5 is when AMD is aiming for the top end Nvidia competitor, according to leaks anyway.
@JesusisLordSEEKThe 4090 is %70 to %80 faster than the 3090. So how is it a refresh that would mean not a legitimate upgrade. A refresh would be something like a 4070ti to a 3090.
Can track my last upgrades: 2011, 2016, 2020, 2023.
I just upgraded to a 7900x as the 5900x couldnt cope with modded Minecraft so the extra Ghz can matter.
i upgraded my cpu from a 3700X to a 5700X a few months ago, and now being on the final generation on AM4, i think i will be fine until around 2026/2027 where i'll just build new and jump to Zen6/7 (idk what the roadmap for their releases is) and RTX 6000.
should have gone 5950x
ahaha no, i dont have need for 16 cores with my lesser usecase, and my motherboard is one of the msi x570 mpg ones that turned out to have a really disappointing vrm and wont handle an r9 cpu
Kinda unsure I'd gain much upgrading my 5900X to some 3D chip (7800X3D probably) at UW 1440p on a 7900XTX, it pairs nicely, think I'd wait till Ryzen 9000s
At this point wait for the 9800x3d.
Should i upgrade from a RX 6700XT to a RX 7900XT on a 1440p monitor Ryzen 7 5700X cpu 32gigs ram ?
That all depends on the type of games or simulators you typically play. For the average AAA it's fine. But if you are into flight sims and VR that 7900XT will really come in handy.
😄uhm if u want a really good invidia card from the 5000 series then u will have to wait until the 6000 series comes out, the best invidia cards always comes out at the end, it is what it is FAM
Yeah more like wait a few months before 6000 series is released, unless you wait when the prices drop to get ready for the new gen. The 3090 Ti for example came out the same year as the 4090 (January and September respectively) but Nvidia sold the Ti at full price for a while probably until the 4090 was announced.
MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM X 24G, 24GB $3199 AUD. But that gonna take me months to save up and buy except it is totally worth it for the 5-6 years then its money well spent.
I've got a 5950x and a 4090 with 64 gigs of DDR4 (I got an incredible deal on it at 700 off compared to normal pricing and managed to flip my 6900xt pretty well. For my creative needs and then for gaming this should be fine for a while. As time goes on I'll probably drop down settings at some point if things actually become unbearable at 4k. I'm completely replacing this system at the 6000 series from Nvidia (save for the super reliable 1100 watt titanium psu I've got probably. I'm going to downgrade that to a gold rated one before I flip it).
Even if I wanted to upgrade I'm a marketing student specialised in making advertisements as an independent. I probably don't really have a choice considering my income unless I really grind out commission work for local businesses and manage to master getting my brand out there.
Both of those are only one generation old. It is NOT time to upgraded those. Sheesh! The only people that need to upgrade from last generation to this generation are rich tech youtubers. Lol
I have a r7 5800x3d and a 3080 and game at 1440p and I'm good especially if games use fsr 3 or dlss 3 frame gen as I can mod in frame gen in.
But allocate the money for the upgrade now, put it into something with a guaranteed interest rate return, and then consider using the money once the R9 8900X and RTX 5080 release.
4090 costs so much yes, "because they can" but there's more to it. Inflation, BOM cost increases and the tendency for new products with improved features and new features increasing the base price... But the biggest factor in all of this is the fact the company is publicly traded and they are beholden to those of us who own them; their #1 objective is to give a return on investment to the shareholders, and to do so with as much as a return as possible, so their duty is to stretch those prices as high as they can without impacting demand so much that revenue falls below where it would be with a lower price. If they aren't providing a return then I'm selling them, so they must attempt to extract as much value (i.e. currency) from their customers as feasibly possible without impacting demand/revenue negatively. That balance came at $1600 and for board partners even higher. The other biggest factor besides shareholders is the consumer and their willingness to spend that much. If the consumers had refused to buy you would see different pricing.
I wanted to build peak am4 build untill I saw a 12900k and a cheap z690 mobo would blow it away in premiere pro for about the same price!using a 5800x with 96gb ram with a crappy 1660ti and its nice but intel got the upper hand in premiere pro builds!
i feel like my 5950x is bottlenecking my 4080 super
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Hi wanted your opinion on a system that I dont use my son wants try PC gaming give his PS5 a break to get him started the system is a Ryzen 5 5600G Motherboard PRIME B450M-A II what NVME M.2 for steam games and a GPU 1080p or 1440p gaming
Spring for the 5700G, it's worth it.
A 5700X and a RX 6600 would be a far better choice if that's an option.
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I wish I still had my r5 3600 1080 ti pc, I spent a lot of money on a i5 12400 rx 6800 pc and play the same old games I used to my old pc was just fine for that I'm getting out of gaming no good games I'm interested in at all hardly but since I already have it if there any new games ill have no issues running them at least.
To be fair, that's not much of an upgrade. You spent a lot of money to go from a 3600 to a 12400, which is faster, but not by so much as to be dramatic.
@@TechDeals the cpu was definitely not but it put me on a alive platform, and the gpu was a huge upgrade plays all my games at 4k with modded hd textures so I'm still glad I did it, the 1080 ti was struggling to do everything I wanted.
How about Zen 5 16 cores on a single die not dual CCDs. Will AMD have that. Based on leaks no sadly. I am kind of between rock and hard place because I so badly want more than 8 modern homogeneous cores a single die on modern arhc, but no such options exists which is a shame. SO despite having the money for RTX 4090 easily, I a on 7800X3D and still only 8 cores because there no more than 8 core options of a homogeneous CPU and that gives me pause. But I may need to give hybrid arch a try. It appears no way around it for now or accept the bad dual CCD cross latency and also its own scheduling issues though no AMD thread director unlike Intel.
AMD Zen 5 is coming out this summer.
Intel Arrow Lake comes out in Q4 2024.
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