No, the problem is the movies are create in base of the director They didnt pic some DEI director to make a mandatory movie for a saga Hellboy 2 Guillermo del Toro Dk is Nolan The only Marvel film you can compare is the Werewolf by NIGHT movie -episode made by A MUSICIAN And The Batman 2022 i guess
Weirdly, Deltoro wanted to add a mini script on the elves origins and WHY the look similar but vastly different from us. Something about one of their creator Gods being in a concubine relationship with one of ours as a PRANK DATE?!
Yeah, the falling leaves very much give the impression that they've tried to dress it up or make it look even a little like their ancestral home (think Lothlorien). Tragically, they are very much a fallen race.
Yeah, I like to think a part of him hoped that Nuada might find a way to save their people that he couldn't see himself. There's definitely that idea of, "Balor is old and tired, failing as a king, but Nuada remains strong enough to rule."
He’s a loving father who’s children where linked so if one died so did the other. Which means, The king would not only lose his crazy yet handsome son, he’d lose his sweet kind daughter
@@thedarkone9552 Jacksons smaug looks like every other western dragon design to ever be used, anywhere, basic and lame. del torros is unique and would have been great. I'm willing to bet you haven't even seen the 'Original' art of smaug by Tolkien. It was literally a snake with wings. People like you are just content with the mundane I guess.
@@prax456 First of all, unique does not mean interesting at all. Alien, unrealistic and unrelatable can be just as basic as you put it. Secondly, Smaug's design is so vastly detailed and original that I dare you give me a single example save King Ghidorah, that comes even close to the inspiration themes and level of details. As a digital artist I find Smaug to be a CGI and artistic masterpiece. Del Toro's Smaug would have been just as lame as most of his monsters.
@@thedarkone9552 Any dragon from any game, show, or movie made in the past 25 years. World of Warcraft. dark souls. DND dragons. Final fantasy. Dragons dogma. Dragon age. Elder scrolls. The gothic series. G.R.R Martin dragon designs. All share the same basic European depictions of dragons derived from Graeco-Roman literature. Serpents with wings and horns. Flying snakes. So unique.
Prince Nuada is angry because he pre - assembled the crown, then princess Nuala ran away with the last piece. Now the crown does not fit in his pocket.
I’ve always adored how both have really good reasons for their actions, Nuada cares for his people and is willing to destroy humanity for their safety, but the king and the others would rather peacefully fade away than cause another genocide, Plus the fight scene is just really fun
Not everyone is motivated primarily by a desire for survival. It seemed clear to me that most of the elves, king included, would rather have died and gone extinct than violate their oaths and ethical obligations. Suffering to do what is right. Living by principle rather than by necessity. Some people place other things as more important than their survival and well-being. In this case, the king's position does make sense. In their history, the elves almost completely wiped out the human race. Their oath was more to prevent the elves from becoming genocidal monsters than it was made from a desire to protect humans. They rather would be wiped out than have the blood of billions on their hands, because they knew that would be the end result if they went to war again. That's not to say Nuada was wrong or unreasonable. I totally understand his position. But the King wasn't wrong either. Sometimes neither side is wrong; they just have irreconcilable differences that prevent them from coexisting.
The Elves almost wiped out the Humans with the Golden Army during the first war. It's a bit like their version of the atomic bomb, there is a heavy moral question.
@@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg It's crazy to look at all of the characters/civilizations inspired by Elric and Melniboné. Warhammer fantasy, GOT, The Witcher, but weirdly enough not Warcraft.
I'm an enthusiastic reader of celtic folklore and this is a beautiful portrait of the Tuatha de Dannan, demigods, and that very little detail 2:00 of the left silver hand of the king is a precious reference to the true Nuada in the irish tales.
A compelling villain imo. Very arrogant and haughty...but ultimately trying to preserve his people who were near extinct....even if by any means necessary. The whole thing with his sister was weird, but interesting. He's like what you'd get if you crossed a Star Wars villain with Namor.
I just realized Nuada and his family all have varied facial markings related to wood grain. His sister being the least marked and his dad literally growing wooden horns out of his head. Del Toro is a masterclass character/creature designer!
I have a love-hate relationship with this movie because of that. I like Nuada, but Luke Goss's look and performance would be perfect for portraying the White Wolf. A missed opportunity.
Looking back theres a big plot hole in this movie. If the prince and his sister are linked then wouldnt the kings order to kill him effectively also end her life? And if the sister was willing to die (which it seems like she was) why didnt she just stab herself right then and there to kill the prince and end his crusade? Why wait until the end of the movie?
she didn't have the strength to do it cause killing yourself is a horrible thing to do and despite the path her brother chose it was still her brother and she accepted her father doing it despite how much despair it brings her it will be nothing compared to the despair he would feel and at the end she knew hellboy and his friends weren't going to kill her brother cause they didn't want to be responsible for her death so nualla knowing her brother was never going to stop made the heartbreaking choice to just end it.
Not a plot hole, but definitely a central plot point. Yes, King Balor's order meant the death of Nuala, as well. And Nuada actually calls her out on this: "Are you content with your king's verdict?" "I am." Nuada wasn't a self-interested tyrant; literally his entire motivation is, "I have returned to save my people." That now includes Nuala, as well, as he's literally just heard her telling him, "I am ready to die." As to the second part, there is some plot contrivance going on there, but there is also the point to be made that Nuala was simply non-violent; her and King Balor were advocating the Elves and magical races fade away slowly and peacefully, not through bloodshed. It's only at the end of the film where Nuala is really forced to take action.
I love this movie. Just to simp for a second I’d only ever seen the actor who plays the Prince, Luke Goss, in creature makeup. He’s actually so handsome.
I’m astonished to see some comments praising the prince, despite clearly talking about committing genocide. P.S.: Why the king ordered his son’s death, if this would mean his daughter’s death as well? Did the writer forget about it?
I mean, did you miss the part about humans committing genocide against the magical creatures for most of our history? The story that Hellboy hears as a child, at the beginning of the film, pretty clearly establishes that the initial peace treaty meant that we humans keep to our tribal villages Rohan-style, and the elves and faeries get to stay in their forests. Then, of course, we humans went Isengard and started clear-cutting the forests of the world. It got even worse when we invented things like bulldozers and chainsaws. There's a reason Nuada specifically references parking lots and shopping malls--what do you think was growing in those spaces before they were paved over? To quote one article on this very topic: Nuada is the villain because he violated a peace treaty...that the other side had already been breaking for centuries. P.S. Nope, Guillermo del Toro knew exactly what he was doing. King Balor ordered his son's death knowing full well that Nuala would die as well. In the conversation, he and Nuala make it clear they are already prepared to accept death at humanity's hands long before it turns violent.
Wait, i just realized something. The king ordered the death of his son, yet the damage the prince takes is shared with his sister... was the king aware that he was also ordering the death of his daughter or is this just a plot hole?
Nope, not a plot hole. Very much a central plot point, though. "And you, sister? Are you content with your king's verdict?" "I am." Nuada realized in that moment that Nuala was literally agreeing to martyr herself (which she actually does at the end of the film by way of suicide). It wasn't just about him fighting for his own life or even fighting to preserve his people. If he died (and he eventually does), his sister would also die (and she eventually does).
Looking back if the sister has come to terms with death, why didn't she kill herself, thus killing him, saving their father from him, keeping the peace, and making sure the golden army never awakens 🤔
Aside from plot contrivance, it's entirely possible she just didn't have a dagger on her at the moment, whereas she likely took the opportunity to arm herself upon Abe entering her into protective custody.
The same year we got The Dark Knight we also got Hellboy 2. Those were the days where you had reason to be excited over a new superhero film.
Yes and now we are overwhelmed and over exposed.
I agree! Things have completely changed
No, the problem is the movies are create in base of the director
They didnt pic some DEI director to make a mandatory movie for a saga
Hellboy 2 Guillermo del Toro
Dk is Nolan
The only Marvel film you can compare is the Werewolf by NIGHT movie -episode made by A MUSICIAN
And The Batman 2022 i guess
im so glad in not man with the mind of a child
And the 1st iron man
They did a good job making the underground realm look really depressing.
Right? Elves are supposed to be living in sacred forests and groves. It's sad seeing them in a steampunk utility basement.
@@robwalsh9843I guees that's what happens when humans reign upon the earth, forcing them to seek sanctuary even from such a bad place
Weirdly, Deltoro wanted to add a mini script on the elves origins and WHY the look similar but vastly different from us. Something about one of their creator Gods being in a concubine relationship with one of ours as a PRANK DATE?!
Yeah, the falling leaves very much give the impression that they've tried to dress it up or make it look even a little like their ancestral home (think Lothlorien).
Tragically, they are very much a fallen race.
I’m gonna tell my kids this was Aemond Targaryen.
Word 😂😂😂
No Bloodraven
its clearly Daemon. s1ep1.
* Daemon Targaryen
Even Daemon Blackfyre
😂😂😂😂
- What are you doing my son?
- Succeeding you, father.
The Lynch King! ❄️🗡️👑 😂
Nuada and Arthas are rip-offs of Elric.
Nuada did it to save his people though.
.. And from the ashes, a new order will rise, that will shake, the very foundations of the... World ''
@@robwalsh9843please tell us more
I hadn't noticed the so called king was ready to Die. It was for the best. The man had out lived his time.
Well, he agree to his son cause but he cant seem to do the deed on his own
Elf, not a Man.
@wazer85 Not an Elf. But you must know what they are called. Quite curious 🤔 exactly what they are.
@@jameswahnee-vn5ntthey are elves just a diff type than the one you’re used to seeing
@@jameswahnee-vn5nt you had the opportunity to look up the answer, but chose to look dumb instead. Congrats james…
I've seen this movie half a dozen times and its only just occurred to me that he was about to kill both his kids
Same 😅
And pretty much his entire race, as well.
And she calmly consented to her own death.
Oh snap. If you hadn't said it I wouldn't have realized it
This should be how they make live action Celebrimbor not that old man in Rings Of Power
That soyboy emasculated Big nosed manginq
instead they made a neutered manchild
Rings Of Power is such a worthless piece of sh*t its actually astounding just how truly wretched it is.
From being Jared Nomak to Prince Nuada this guys really good at being the bad guy 🎉
Don't forget, One Night with The King. Shows how versatile he is.
Nomak had more of a sense of humour...
I think he would be a perfect cast as Drizzt Do Urden.
he has reasons to be bad
Both are Guillermo del Toro's creation. Del Toro is the best horror writer of our generation.
The king seems visibly relieved that his son's execution failed, and that he shall die instead.
Yeah, I like to think a part of him hoped that Nuada might find a way to save their people that he couldn't see himself.
There's definitely that idea of, "Balor is old and tired, failing as a king, but Nuada remains strong enough to rule."
He’s a loving father who’s children where linked so if one died so did the other. Which means, The king would not only lose his crazy yet handsome son, he’d lose his sweet kind daughter
back when they made good fantasy/ action movies... miss these good movies
Prince Nuada will always be one of my "hear me outs."😂😂😂 ZADDY
Same. SAME!! 😂
We got robbed of a third film in this line of movies, they haven't been able to do Hellboy justice ever since!!!!...
This makeup’s better than the rings of power series 🗿
Anything is better than the rings of power series
@tileux good. His Smaug for horrifyingly lame. Peter Jackson's Smaug lived up to be the most fascinating dragon on screen of all time
@@thedarkone9552 Jacksons smaug looks like every other western dragon design to ever be used, anywhere, basic and lame.
del torros is unique and would have been great. I'm willing to bet you haven't even seen the 'Original' art of smaug by Tolkien. It was literally a snake with wings. People like you are just content with the mundane I guess.
@@prax456 First of all, unique does not mean interesting at all. Alien, unrealistic and unrelatable can be just as basic as you put it. Secondly, Smaug's design is so vastly detailed and original that I dare you give me a single example save King Ghidorah, that comes even close to the inspiration themes and level of details.
As a digital artist I find Smaug to be a CGI and artistic masterpiece.
Del Toro's Smaug would have been just as lame as most of his monsters.
@@thedarkone9552 Any dragon from any game, show, or movie made in the past 25 years. World of Warcraft. dark souls. DND dragons. Final fantasy. Dragons dogma. Dragon age. Elder scrolls. The gothic series. G.R.R Martin dragon designs. All share the same basic European depictions of dragons derived from Graeco-Roman literature. Serpents with wings and horns. Flying snakes. So unique.
This scene was replayed over and over when I was a kid 😂😂😂
Prince Nuada is angry because he pre - assembled the crown, then princess Nuala ran away with the last piece.
Now the crown does not fit in his pocket.
I’ve always adored how both have really good reasons for their actions, Nuada cares for his people and is willing to destroy humanity for their safety, but the king and the others would rather peacefully fade away than cause another genocide,
Plus the fight scene is just really fun
2008 was a great year for Super hero movies (the dark knight,Hancock,Hellboy 2,Iron man,Hulk) ect ect
He was right. I couldnt understand why his ppl were against him. Great fighting choreographie.
because killing people is bad?
@@splooie02 so they should choose extinction instead?
@@sethael1741they had their time and chance.
Not everyone is motivated primarily by a desire for survival. It seemed clear to me that most of the elves, king included, would rather have died and gone extinct than violate their oaths and ethical obligations. Suffering to do what is right. Living by principle rather than by necessity. Some people place other things as more important than their survival and well-being.
In this case, the king's position does make sense. In their history, the elves almost completely wiped out the human race. Their oath was more to prevent the elves from becoming genocidal monsters than it was made from a desire to protect humans. They rather would be wiped out than have the blood of billions on their hands, because they knew that would be the end result if they went to war again.
That's not to say Nuada was wrong or unreasonable. I totally understand his position. But the King wasn't wrong either. Sometimes neither side is wrong; they just have irreconcilable differences that prevent them from coexisting.
The Elves almost wiped out the Humans with the Golden Army during the first war. It's a bit like their version of the atomic bomb, there is a heavy moral question.
Damn I should’ve watched House of the Dragon sooner😂😂
Elric of Melniboné energy- the young Emperor returns and destroys his decaying Empire
Definitely. Nuada is clearly modeled after Elric.
@@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg
It's crazy to look at all of the characters/civilizations inspired by Elric and Melniboné.
Warhammer fantasy, GOT, The Witcher, but weirdly enough not Warcraft.
@@wikipediaintellectual7088 theres also quite a bit of music inspired or based on Elric.
@@wikipediaintellectual7088I’d say Arthas is at least somewhat modeled off Elric
@@Karlonstark
Unless you think every evil sword is inspired by Elric, no.
I'm an enthusiastic reader of celtic folklore and this is a beautiful portrait of the Tuatha de Dannan, demigods, and that very little detail 2:00 of the left silver hand of the king is a precious reference to the true Nuada in the irish tales.
This movie is extremely underrated! I think it is absolutely phenomenal!
The creativity of the creatures is amazing in this movie. Guillermo del toro is an amazing director. I love his use of practical effects
I understand and agree with the Prince in what he says "greed has burned a hole man's heart"
Maturing is realizing that Prince Nuada was right and he was just protecting his kin
The fight coreography is amazing. Why can't modern star wars learn from this srsly
I’ve always found this scene to be pretty heartbreaking, but maybe thats just me.
This guy looks and sounds like Tom Cruise from the neck up in this movie. Underrated movie
00:53 The king said covid....
Im hear too
😂same I heard it too
Lol
😂😂
0:34 As I get older, I keep agreeing with Nuada more and more.
Always bugged me he broke his fathers corpse, it would have been a perfect aesthetic monument if whole.
Dude was a complete badass
A compelling villain imo. Very arrogant and haughty...but ultimately trying to preserve his people who were near extinct....even if by any means necessary. The whole thing with his sister was weird, but interesting. He's like what you'd get if you crossed a Star Wars villain with Namor.
I just realized Nuada and his family all have varied facial markings related to wood grain. His sister being the least marked and his dad literally growing wooden horns out of his head. Del Toro is a masterclass character/creature designer!
with or without hair, Nomak looks badass.
When I first saw this, it was a bootleg.And had no subtitles, and it added so much to the scene.
Like they portrayed emotion really good in this scene
All I see is Elric of Melniboné.
The wielder of the real Stormbringer...I've been screaming about a movie adaptation for years now.
@@TheSkipAd Definitely!!
I have a love-hate relationship with this movie because of that. I like Nuada, but Luke Goss's look and performance would be perfect for portraying the White Wolf. A missed opportunity.
I don’t know why but i love his voice in this role
Luke Goss as Xerxes in 'One Night With The King'. Unbelieveably gorgeous.
Dude is a ridiculous fighter!!
I thought this fight scene was kinda hot
House of the dragon looks great
Rings of power looked like this is my mind before I seen it.
I remember thinking this guy was so damn hot, he is still my "hear me out" whenever someone asks lmao
I thought this was aemond Targaryen smh
3:16-3:22 seeing Nuala's nose bleeding reminds me of Spider-Man gets cut by one of the razor bats!!!!!😮😮😮😮😮😮
This looks so beautifull. The ahstetic the customs the back ground.
Looking back theres a big plot hole in this movie. If the prince and his sister are linked then wouldnt the kings order to kill him effectively also end her life? And if the sister was willing to die (which it seems like she was) why didnt she just stab herself right then and there to kill the prince and end his crusade? Why wait until the end of the movie?
she didn't have the strength to do it cause killing yourself is a horrible thing to do and despite the path her brother chose it was still her brother and she accepted her father doing it despite how much despair it brings her it will be nothing compared to the despair he would feel and at the end she knew hellboy and his friends weren't going to kill her brother cause they didn't want to be responsible for her death so nualla knowing her brother was never going to stop made the heartbreaking choice to just end it.
Not a plot hole, but definitely a central plot point.
Yes, King Balor's order meant the death of Nuala, as well. And Nuada actually calls her out on this:
"Are you content with your king's verdict?"
"I am."
Nuada wasn't a self-interested tyrant; literally his entire motivation is, "I have returned to save my people." That now includes Nuala, as well, as he's literally just heard her telling him, "I am ready to die."
As to the second part, there is some plot contrivance going on there, but there is also the point to be made that Nuala was simply non-violent; her and King Balor were advocating the Elves and magical races fade away slowly and peacefully, not through bloodshed. It's only at the end of the film where Nuala is really forced to take action.
Hellboy was and us a great movie
I really enjoyed the practical effects and fight scenes in these movies.
Always loved this design. He looks like what I believe bloodraven from the SOI&F lore looks.
Oh my god yes
the first targaryen we never forget
He asks his sister if she agrees with the verdict because if he dies she dies
The movie basically says.... people who wish to stick to the old ways, the natural ways, are the bad guys and should die off.
I won't fade away!
I like how he turned into the same stuff werthers originals are made of when he died
temu elf begging permission from his last remaining 10 people living in a basement
Beautiful storytelling! Bada$$ characters!!
I love this movie. Just to simp for a second I’d only ever seen the actor who plays the Prince, Luke Goss, in creature makeup. He’s actually so handsome.
Nuada put all 100 points in agility
Bro i thought he was Knull💀💀
he fits btw
I like how she's casually jogging away.
Brutal esta película ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
😢😢 I can feel the pain between Father and son already I can't imagine if I was in that situation on film 🎥😢😢😢😢
I love the costumes and make up
Sooooo love this movie. He plays such a good elf.
Prince Nuada kind of looks like Knull from the Marvel Comics.
This is what I think of when I imagined a live action version of elric of melnibone would look like
Is that Tomax and Xamot?
Twins who could feel each other's pain?
00:52...Covid?
You werent the only 1 who noticed that Man.
The language they are speaking is Irish (Gaelic)
I wish we would’ve seen and learned more about the elves history and lore
This movie is awesome.
Drizzt Do’Urden
Exactly. It sounds like a chapter right out of one of R A Salvatore's novels. The way he fights with the two swords sounds so much like Drizzt
They all are targaryens 😂 .
When a hot elf prince says what you think and now you've got a new fantasy crush.
I'll tell my kids this was Arthas' betrayal
This dude would be unstoppable in westeros
This is what would happen to lotr elves if they stayed in Middle Earth instead of traveling to undying lands
Never saw this movie. Dude reminds me of Erik Killmonger from Black Panther Fighting for his people but is portrayed as a villian...
Call an ambulance........but not for me. 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
This portrayal is more look alike to elves than they are in Rings of Power.
Wait a sec! Didnt he do the exact same thing in Blade 2? Lol
He did 😂 he evolved from a vampire to a Prince Nuada after Blade killed him 😂😂
@@jarredflint Now Mr Flint. You know he could have pulled it out and lived. He pushed it in himself so he would no longer have to endure his pain.
@@jarredflintand both times he had a hot sister 😂
Both films were directed by Guillermo del Toro.
@shinmegamanzx ahahaha so true 😂😂
It was sad he lost. That great a great story and acting.
THIS MOVIE WAS TOP NOTCH STORY TELLING AND ACTING
why is he the only one speaking in english
One of few movies that i like the antagonist more than the prota. And they nerf him sooooo bad at the end😢
This is the perfect cast for knull
he just had to ask the troll friend to capture the sister right away before attack but well
Whoever wrote this scene played wc3
That's the same guy who played Novak in Blade 2 right?
Yes.
I’m astonished to see some comments praising the prince, despite clearly talking about committing genocide.
P.S.: Why the king ordered his son’s death, if this would mean his daughter’s death as well? Did the writer forget about it?
That is why the prince asked if his sister is ok with their father's decision
I mean, did you miss the part about humans committing genocide against the magical creatures for most of our history? The story that Hellboy hears as a child, at the beginning of the film, pretty clearly establishes that the initial peace treaty meant that we humans keep to our tribal villages Rohan-style, and the elves and faeries get to stay in their forests.
Then, of course, we humans went Isengard and started clear-cutting the forests of the world. It got even worse when we invented things like bulldozers and chainsaws. There's a reason Nuada specifically references parking lots and shopping malls--what do you think was growing in those spaces before they were paved over?
To quote one article on this very topic:
Nuada is the villain because he violated a peace treaty...that the other side had already been breaking for centuries.
P.S. Nope, Guillermo del Toro knew exactly what he was doing. King Balor ordered his son's death knowing full well that Nuala would die as well.
In the conversation, he and Nuala make it clear they are already prepared to accept death at humanity's hands long before it turns violent.
Because you are thinking from human perspective.
It’s like Rhaegar Targaryan and his father, the Mad King
Where is balerion the black dread
Looks like KRAUSER SAMA from Detroit Metal City 😂😂😂😂
Anyone else think that they look like Targaryens?
2016 is the last period of good movie 😢
It is true though, that the greed of the human heart will never have enough.
Guillermo del toro and his masterpiece of creatures
Movie nem send mi peless
Wait, i just realized something. The king ordered the death of his son, yet the damage the prince takes is shared with his sister... was the king aware that he was also ordering the death of his daughter or is this just a plot hole?
Nope, not a plot hole. Very much a central plot point, though.
"And you, sister? Are you content with your king's verdict?"
"I am."
Nuada realized in that moment that Nuala was literally agreeing to martyr herself (which she actually does at the end of the film by way of suicide). It wasn't just about him fighting for his own life or even fighting to preserve his people.
If he died (and he eventually does), his sister would also die (and she eventually does).
Looking back if the sister has come to terms with death, why didn't she kill herself, thus killing him, saving their father from him, keeping the peace, and making sure the golden army never awakens 🤔
Aside from plot contrivance, it's entirely possible she just didn't have a dagger on her at the moment, whereas she likely took the opportunity to arm herself upon Abe entering her into protective custody.
I wonder what kind of magical creatures the kings guard were?