Scalp Massage For Hair Loss [48 Weeks] + Top Hair Loss Treatments
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- After seeing promising results in the first 24 week experimental scalp massage, I continued this for a further 48 weeks.
The first 24 weeks was a strict 5 minutes/day, the second 24 weeks was a "do what you can" approach that didn't go well, and the third 24 weeks of scalp massage was 20 minutes, three times a week.
In hindsight the key component is likely to be frequency and not cumulative time, the way the research paper correlated improvements gave the impression that better results were related to total overall time. In the video I suggest an optimal approach as twice a day, or every 12 hours, and re-reading the paper that's actually what was proposed.
However, 2 x 20 mins/day is a ridiculous time cost, equivalent to 20 hours/month. If you chose Redensyl at £20/month you could fund it with 2-3 hours paid work, far more efficient than massage. Instead, I feel that after a few minutes the blood flow is pretty maximised, and there's less to be gained from long duration sessions. 5 minutes a day is still 2 hours/month but it's easier to fit that in while doing other activities, or if choosing the lying down approach then doing it first thing in the morning and last thing at night would suit it well.
My next protocol is exciting! I didn't want to start too many new things because you wouldn't know what was actually effective, but the derma-rolling and topical solution fit nicely together and supplements are a simple addition to my breakfast. I will consider moving to a longer needle if results are underwhelming, but doing this once a week is a welcome change from the higher frequency protocols.
I should note that I film these videos using an intense light (you can see it reflected in my pupils) and while demonstrating the scalp massage my scalp was very visible. My hair loss isn't quite at that stage yet under natural light so there's no deception going on with my progress pictures.
Links and References:
My article covering all experiments to date: www.9to5streng...
Peppermint Oil Promotes Hair Growth: www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Red Clover Extract: pubmed.ncbi.nl...
Rosemary Oil vs Minoxidil: pubmed.ncbi.nl...
Scalp Massage: pubmed.ncbi.nl...
RU58841: moreplatesmore...
More Plates More Dates DHT article: moreplatesmore...
Redensyl v Minoxidil: www.semanticsc...
The DHT Myth by Christopher Walker: • The Hair Loss DHT Myth...
You can see all my experiments and before/after pictures to date on my website 9to5strength.com/hair-growth-self-experiments/
Your willingness to be open and honest is legendary. Mad respect bro.
Fully agree with taking the opportunity to experiment. In the fight with you. 💪 Love your outlook and looking forward to seeing how it all goes.
I'm on your side. I like hair, does make you look better. I've tried numerous treatments, seems to have stopped falling out, no new regrowth. I'll keep trying. Thanks for the information.
I started losing my hair at 18. Went to see a trichologist who confirmed mpb. This was in the 1980s. Read as much as I could on the subject and started massaging my scalp every day . I never lost anymore hair up to the age of 50 but the hair strands did thicken. After the age of 50 I suffered from extreme clinical depression and lost my motivation for life. I stopped massaging my scalp and the rest of my hair dropped out. Pulled myself out of depression after 10 years although have bipolar and embarked on 2 hair transplants . Best money I spent and am now doing the massaging again. If you massage the back of your head you will notice the skin is loose and flexible whereas the crown and temple not as much. For me the most important thing is to make sure that your crown and temples are as flexible as the back of your head. It’s very hard to regrow hair back. However, the earlier you start massaging the more chance you have got to fill in the gaps. Massage your scalp every day for the rest of your life if you still have some hair or have had a hair transplant. You don’t need to obsess too much
Hey! Quick question, when you say you don’t need to obsess too much what do you mean by that? Thanks.
@@taytayshaniqua.8686 what I mean is that many people spend loads of money on potions and lotions. Most of it does not work I have done it. Scalp massage is the main thing. I’m not against finesteride and minoxidil in conjunction with massage. Good luck in your hair journey
I feel like the head massage is only making my hair appear thicker but not actually helping regrowth
This is amazing and super helpful. I'm thankful that someone took the time to break down the top most common approaches to combatting hair loss. I started noticing it on myself recently after seeing a picture of me with my hair pulled back and appalled. Among everything else I have to worry about I never thought hair loss would be another thing on my list. I know this video is old already but I'm hoping you've posted an update with positive results.
This is my successful routine: 1- Dermaroller once a week at first and every ten days after some weeks of use (avoiding collagen fibrosis round the follicles and creating growth factors). 2- Electric head massage device for relaxing front-occipital and parietal muscles (avoiding aponeurotic galea tension). 3- Applying Aloe Vera (vehicle) mixed with lemon juice and some drops of Piperita mint oil for inactivating enzyme 5-alpha reductase (acid surrounding is not beared). I had a bit of shedding effect at first, but two months later it looks much better and I expect the best results on December. Blessings
what's wrong with enzyme 5-alpha reductase?
@@riperboyxl3216 , the 5-alpha reductase enzyme is the responsible for making DHT from T. And as we know it, the more DHT on the derme of our heads, the more hair loss we will have. Finasteride works blocking the 5-alpha reductase.
Hi any updates?
He died
I appreciate the self experimentation and scientific approach.
I also note the contradiction between hair loss being “trivial” but wasting precious hours/weeks/months of your life doing useless hair protocols.
Good luck with your “fight”.
trivial in the grand scheme of things, I believe the comparison was with your overall health
your comment is rather "trivial" and "unnecessary"
It's a trivial pursuit
Derek getting a shout out, the reputation of his delts proceeds him. The algo is strong.
I am so glad I came across your channel, thank you for your efforts in videos!!!
So awesome to see that you are attempting different methods for hair regrowth brotha, I'm only 35 and have been working on this myself for 4 years now by attempting a number of methods. My balding started about 6 years ago I wanna say and I'm not ready to give up. My baldness is a little worse than yours I'd say but not too far off.
So far I have tried the supplement by hairtamin, finasteride, minoxodil, rogaine, a hairmax laser comb, shampoo with essential oils, caffeine shampoo. Currently, I'm attempting an essential oil blend of rosemary, lavender, ylang ylang, and peppermint (5 drops of each in a 30ml bottle) with jajoba oil which I've been doing for almost 6 months now and I'm taking magnesium daily which I started about 2 months ago. I attempted other methods for roughly 4-6 months and did the laser comb for about 9 months. No results yet from my current method but did notice some regrowth with the laser comb on my vertex and no results noticed at all from the other methods. Let's keep on pushing and see if we can figure this out!
Hey, interesting with the laser comb. Laser therapy wasn't suggested by anyone in the comments but perhaps it's relatively new. I got approached by iRestore who wanted to send me a low level light therapy helmet to try out for hair growth and that was the first I'd heard of it.
Do you get much tingling from the oil blend? I've been bumping my peppermint oil and I'm up to 16 drops because the recommended concentration felt too low
Is your balding any good by now?
try dermarolling your scalp you guys will see wonderfull results
@@samik884 I'm all good now 🥂
Its fantastic that you are so determined and committed to your hair growth 💪😁 I'm sure you will see wonderful results surely. But please also know that you are loved just as you are today, regardless of the results ❤❤❤
Personally for many years I've been trying to improve my acne condition. Now I dont have breakouts anymore by tweaking my diet & some other lifestyle choices 😊 Yay!!! But once all the acne cleared, I realised that I have scars. It bothers me as it is not the result I envisioned after all that hardwork but I try to be kind to myself.
The derma roller scoops needle holes like an icecream scoop, so use a derma pen or something that pierces straight down instead.
Microneedling, vitamin D3, made my own caffeine shampoo. Will update in a year
just make it 20 years
Well?
They NEVER EVER comeback to tell the tale like death
very detailed and clear. thank you for sharing. you have put so much research into this and i appreciate that.
This is great mate looking forward to an update. I'm gonna do a similar method to this after a bit more of a literature search
You're a good man. Seems truth in that's massage thing. Im awaiting delivery of my micro needle.
Wow what an amazing video I just found out just by mistake. Keep up the good experimental work. I can't wait for the results of this video. Will follow
Its mid January now. Eagerly waiting for your update. Ur work is superb. Thanks😊
If you have TMD from premolar extraction and retraction. That could be a reason for your hair loss.
i wash my hair with half a litre of ro water after bathing to remove the hard water from scalp, also i avoid drinking water with added minerals as they some how increase baldness, also i avoid very chilly foods as they increases hair fall.
has this regiment helped u at all?
Ashwagandha increases DHT. But depends upon person to person. Be careful if anyone using it.
How does the combination of cost and side effects of minoxidil rule it out? You can get a 3 month supply of minoxidil for 15 pounds, and you don't even have to use it twice per day. If you use it only once, it is still quite effective and it costs 2.5 pounds per month. Also when it comes to side effects, it seems to have a very safe profile. For me a sustainable protocol would be: minoxidil once per day, dermaroller 1mm once per week, 2% ketoconazole shampoo once every 2-3 days, with massaging while showering, and laser hat (5 mins daily while pooping :)). For those who want to go the extra mile, maybe topical finasteride of .01% (mixed with minoxidil) or 0.2 mg oral can be reasonable. I also think hair transplant is quite cost effective.
It was the idea that it only works as long as you're paying for it, so you're tying yourself in to a lifetime contract essentially. I just ordered finasteride yesterday and will be taking 0.25mg daily so I'm coming round to the idea of paying a small fee every few months. Interesting with the frequencies you mention, I've been using Nizoral once a week and 1mm dermaroller every 2 weeks. The laser hat was offered to me in exchange for a video about it but by the time I saw the email the offer had passed.
You dont have to take or rub any lotions etc. Just pure simple scalp massage will do it.
you regrew your hair with scalp massages?
This is good information for natural fits hair falling regrowth of thick hair
Awesome stuff looking forward for the next update!!!
Excellent instructions. Well done
cant help but think more massaging is the key.
its the only thing thast will eventually allow blood to return permenantly and once the inflamtion is gone, so is DHT.
Indians have known this for years.
Yeh my Indian friend said that parents give children head massages from a young age due to the known benefits, he also vouched for castor oil topically every week or two. There was promise in hair thickness with the scalp massage but I was still losing it at the temples.
Can somewhat agree with the number one results.
I have been adding a bit of peppermint oil to both relive scalp tension and eventual hairloss for a few months now by mixing it in with my conditioner, and once a month or so give it a mixture of locally made olive oil and peppermint oil for a full on massage. I'm noticing a lot less hairfall and significantly less scalp pain/irritation, call it placebo if you will but it works for me.
Only advice is don't buy cheap shit from India as that's diluted as all hell.
How's your position now??
Something you wanna recommend if you have had any regrowth
@@holydevil9100 Been a while, but in general i've also found a shampoo that has it along with rosemarry oil so i mix in between.
Definitely helped a lot with my scalp aches, individual hairs appear to be a thicker on average and have less hairfall.
You could try it, not a whole lot of adverse effects unless you overdose on it.
@@MrGenoHydra can u tell me the name of the shampoo
@@holydevil9100 It's something locally made here in Israel, not sure it's exported at all.
More Plates More Dates is the best tuber for advice and knowledge on this. He has many videos on many options. SupLiterate is my other fave.
I've dabbled in different options (currently have a Derminator2 for sale :D). I've started the head massage 20 mins twice a day protocol a few months ago. I also take vit e complex after watching a SupLiterate video. I've experimented with micro-needling, lasers and oils. Not drugs like minoxidil though.
Topical dutasteride is meant to have no side effects like finasteride.
My own theory on this is with stuff like massage/needling, if the trauma is low then the frequency needs to be high, and these two aspects have a correlation. Change one, change t'other.
Agreed, the advice seems to be that longer needle = lower frequency to allow recovery. That's the second mention of topical Dutasteride I've had this week, I'm currently doing topical Finasteride overnight with no side effects (5 weeks in).
What you’re doing is amazing 🙏🏼 I hope you find the best solution out there and help us all
Looks like nothing works for this guy
@LuisitoVegawhat do you mean "why?". have you even watched the video
Lmfao 😂😂😂😂
The head massage does help a little but it will not give him full hair
Well not only for this guy but for anyone who is suffering from serious hair loss.
It is a problem you cannot stop and which will never have any solution because the medical industry don't want the world to hve one
@@user-lt7ve7fd6o there's something called a hair transplant and rosemary oil works for me
I think it may be useful, but only after suppressing DHT
Good video overall well explained and straight to the point. I would say however that a dermapen is much superior to a dermaroller, I understand it comes across as quite expensive however the quality has nothing to do with a roller, it is hard if not impossible to puncture your scalp consistently with a roller, if you use 0.5mm you are lucky if you get 0.2 or 0.3mm of perforation depth with research pointing out the sweet spot being around 0.6-1.5mm (I use 1mm personally), on top of that they can be a bit dangerous as they wear out and damage your skin/scalp.
Yeh I recently realised they wear out, I was drawing a lot more blood and had to replace my 1mm after 10-12 uses. I will check out dermapen, cheers
Hey! Looking forward to seeing the update video on this if any of this works!!
It's a shame you didn't try minoxidil, from what I have read side effects are quite rare and limited (you can always stop if it does cause any skin irritation etc), and it doesn't need to be expensive, they say you need to use it twice a day, but I read a lot of people saying they only use it once a day as the half life of the active compound is 20 - 22 hours, it can be low as $/£15 a month for a bottle (which will last 2 months if using just once a day), and I'm sure that's cheaper than all the other supplements / oils you mentioned in this video?
But fingers crossed you're getting good results also! I think for the derma roller if you want to see regrowth you need to go longer than 0.5, at least 1.0 I think? Maybe you can do that just on the temples to see if you get some regrowth.
Hey, cheers, I switched to a 1mm recently, updates can be seen on the Community tab on my channel
Nice video ..good research
Superb video!!
Great video man, appreciate it
best of luck mate!
Bro do have a bacterial infection on your scalp? If so try apple cyder viniger
Was you massage routine based on The Perfect Hair Growth channel? And what's your update? No recent video
Yes it was, more up to date information can be found on my article. I'm currently doing daily scalp massage (again), with twice weekly oils. Also taking stinging nettle root capsules. 9to5strength.com/hair-growth-self-experiments/
*My advice*:- Bro, do 10-15min scalp massage with bhringraj oil + vitamin e capsules (in morning till evening) and castor oil (overnight)....
I have also got drastic improvement in my hair regrowth (yeah, regrowth)...
I will also upload my before and after hairs to prove my point....
.... But, remember a point:- do this on short hair or bald head, because it will easier to scalp massage....
{2008 indian research on bhringraj oil vs minoxidil, u will amaze to know that bhringraj oil outperformed in hair regrowth}....
Even in our ancient tradition, we called bhringraj oil - king of all hairs;
Taking about my hair problem- it is seborrheic dermatitis + shredding hair line from front and back...
Nice video Sir! Thank you!
Hey I know this routine ! I follow it too and well…firstly that form is horrid. Secondly it must be done for at least an hour a day and thirdly nothing can be skipped ….so…
Was wondering, haven’t you tried applying minoxidil?
No2 shd be the best as the side effect is not a must and is reversible…
And you need to act fast cos once pores are dead hair wont regrow
i was told by my doctor that Biotin can be helpful growing or keeping hair but be careful too much will cause hair loss
I believe scalp massage will help with some forms of hair loss maybe not yours
Interesting
Thares honestly notta lot u can do except stop it and slow it and slight slight regrowth ... I uze monoxide bosley shampoo and conditioner and also adding sculp massage and thinking of a lazor comb or hat .. combing them hopefully will pull me throo till I save up for a hair transplant
All videos information combined in one .
You should try rice water. I can confirm it really works at making hair grow
Are u going to follow the cristopher walker approach?
So do u not recommend hair massages?
for hair density / thickness it seemed to genuinely work, but it doesn't tackle receding hair which is why I've moved on to derma and oils. If you just need density then 5 mins daily should give improvements
@@9to5strength
Did the massages halt the receding, at least?
I know the million dollar anti aging solution and it works for hair loss too
Can you try rosemary oil and rosemary/cloves water + massage ?
Don't waste your time
when i massage, my hair is pulled, shaked, pinched so i get much lost hair in my hand while doing it. So i make it very gentle, and i cant do all technics and i afraid to make it to the top.
Same here
at least your maintaining
Take vitamins like biotin zinc copper and saw palemtto
Sorry i don't know English well..
I ask you..
The Best are 1-20 or 20-1?? 🙏🙏
1st is the best, 2nd is second best and so on...
Lions mane mushrooms slows DHT and has a lot of other nootropic benefits
Did you try it DHT blocking shampoo
Neo hair with Derma?
Do the caffeine experiment
Having teeth removed might have an effect on hair loss
Try rosemary oil
Any update ??
yes! 9to5strength.com/hair-growth-self-experiments/
What's with the ZMA, 'you know, you know' comment?
www.menshealth.com/health/a19516010/magnesium-and-dreams/
what was your age when you did this?
34
Should be 20mins per day.
At least 20.
After a while: boom !
Try it…
That’s the truth. Also use a scalp massage head band that inflates and squeezes the sides of your head.
Hi does redensyl cause hair fall when stoped using it like minoxidil
I believe most of these products are a temporary fix and so if you stop using them you'll get hair loss again
use dht blockers
You have to do it for 40 mins a day
do you mean that bro that we need to use the massage in half of the year in the treatment time
Massage is best done little and often, I tried 20 minutes every few days but my best hair thickness was from 5 minutes/day. It's not considered one of the major fixes for hair loss (Nizoral, Dermarolling, Finasteride, Minoxidil) but a lot of people I've spoken too feel like it's beneficial.
Try olive oil with microneedling and blackseed oil with massage for 3 months, it is said to work the best
Blackseed oil are considered holistic treatment method in Islam and Olive is mentioned in the Holy book and respected to have high medicinal propertieies
What about PRP treatments? (Platelet rich plasma). Fantastic video! Thank you for the information.
Interesting, it either wasn't mentioned or didn't make the top 20. It's likely out of a lot of people's price range but still good to know it exists as an option
great video . I went to your website and I read article about supplement . in my option , supplement helps increasing the level of Testosterone and this testosterones convert to DHT that causes hair loss. removing's supplement should add to your list .
FUE transplant time...... you did great and some results but all that effort tells me you want more....go for it ... WAIT ! just seen day 168. If they are same size then looks great.....
Does frequent ejaculation causes baldness
Yes ejaculating can lead to protien loss thus leading to further more hair fall
any updates ?
I've been updating more frequently in this article 9to5strength.com/hair-growth-self-experiments/ I was using the equivalent of 0.1mg topical finasteride per day for ~150 days and I'm clearly losing more at the crown, so I've switched once again to Rosemary Oil with a Castor Oil base.
Would love an update on this?
I share some stuff in the Community tab on my channel. I did 12 weeks with the 0.5mm derma and wanted to do another 12 weeks with a 1mm, so I'm currently at the end of week 9 with the 1mm. I'm struggling to get consistent lighting for my progress pics but from looking in the mirror it does feel like it's having an effect.
@@9to5strength Great, thanks for the update - im on a similar program but many weeks behind you - looking forward to the results!
Just losing more hair as time goes by. Just do minoxidil and a lower dose finasteride if worried about sides 👍.
yeh I did 1/4 dose Fin and got sides, currently doing topical Fin, derma-rolling every 2 weeks and grapeseed/peppermint/rosemary oil twice a week.
@@9to5strength what sides you get?
@@joeservice1968 insomnia within the first week, to the point where I was getting 3-4 hours sleep. Resolved itself within a week of stopping. I'm not 100% sure it was the Fin so may try once more when I can afford a crappy week of sleep
@9to5strength yeah not heard that one tbf. I'd try and push through it mate and get on them. That's what's gonna save your hair 👍.
Hi,
First of all, kudos to your effort and thanks for the video.
The scalp massage u did was suppose to be 40 minutes a day (20 morning and 20 evening) so that will be around 280 mins per week. You only did 60 mins in total ..
That won't give you any result, sir ..
You are waiting and giving so many weeks for the treatment; you should have gone all out and given your best, isn't it???
I hope you follow actual massage protocol and continue with new underlined experiments to see where you land up because in the end you would also really like to see some results, yea.
Take care ...
Best hairline award
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Check Adam Fields 2 interviews with Rob English . Hair growth
Than why are you so bold .?
Start meditating. Your hair will grow back.
You know what really helps WHOLE FOODS.
You mean based on supplement whole foods? Multivitamins?
You should build your laser helmet (not sure the wavelength) follicle stimulating by light. You can try this one too
👍or just go Turkey and get hair transplant haha
Cheers, yeh I was offered one of the laser helmets, I'm currently using a LLT (low level light therapy) hand-sized massager that I got sent and I'm hopeful at least
the most replayed part is the masturbation part😆
😂
Don’t give up on massage. Those miniature hairs need a long time to come back. They need nutrients.
To be fair that’s not how you do scalp massage for hair growth..
Scalp Over Skull Massage is the real way..
Do not put oil on your head
jus let it go man😂😂😂
Nothing works :( I tried everything and just made my hair shed even more, specially oils, microneeding and even Nizoral makes me shed more. It´s very sad.
dude it will shade it will make your weak hair fall and you will have new hair
you have to keep at it for months togther to see resullts
@@mkevinbradley3930 I kept it for years! Minoxidil, finasteride, even flutamide. Nothing worked.
@@caty2ful then it's hereditary hairloss. It can't be reversed.
@@mkevinbradley3930 But obviously, that´s what this video is about!!
My firend Rose Mary oil is the only scientific proof of fixing thid judt use that👍🏼
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Only wash your scalp with distilled water.
O pior é que faz tudo isso e continua careca...kkkkkkk