There are so many lessons in failures 🎉 Also this year was SO strong. There was literally one DOA song. One. Everything else was CHOICES. You either PLAY or you STAY in the semis. And feckless players were rewarded with early tickets home (save for two robberies).
First year since 1974(my first contest viewing aged 3) that I didnt watch the final. Whilst i agree with a lot of what you say ,would love a corrsepodning video as to why certain songs qualified. Hopefully juries are brought back to semi finals sooner rather than later.
Malta: Definitely robbed but played pretty often the on biggest radio station here in Sweden. Australia and Czechia: Better than many songs in the final. Denmark and Albania: 😂.
Moldova: The NF staging was a big nope, they improved it, the vocals were good, but ultimately the song is very weak. Albania: The English and the revamp for me killed the song. The lyrics and song's structure in English seem weird. It was clearly translated INTO English. San Marino: I think it was good, but it's San Marino, when you have Senhit and FloRida with a very good song but ultimately it flopped, idk what they can do more. Azerbaijan: So boring, even the second guy couldn't save it. Australia: Total trainwreck. Very bad vocals, the dress is a disaster, staging is a mess. Iceland: I agree, DOA. This would do great in 90's or early 00's. Czechia: It was good, this actually could be a finalist. Belgium: This was disappointing, because studio version is way way better than live, the vocals were a big downgrade. Plus, he has no big charisma and seemed weird sometimes, maybe due to poor staging. Denmark: Static performance is not necessarily bad, but this is so generic and flavorless. Better than Love is Forever, though. Poland: Terrible vocals, but exceptional staging, I think they couldn't do more. Malta: This is great, the staging improved the song a lot, but the song itself is weak. Doing Eleni Foureira / Chanel works.
@AlesiaMichelle you can see it on her face, she panicked because she noticed the timing was off at around 50ish second, she then tried to catch up and failed.
@@heppolo Again, being behind doesn't yeild the bum notes. BUT! I still think what "killed" this was simply the lack of momentum and hype for the entry as a whole. Fans were nowhere near staining this to the degree it would have needed to make it through.
I'm surprised that "11:11" failed to qualify, especially because they had momentum on their side going into the semi-final. Listening back on the performance...good God, what happened to Kenzy's vocals? I felt like that was what did it in. Same thing with One Milkali (One Blood); it seemed that Electric Fields had the audiences' attention going into the semi-final. Speaking of momentum, that's an interesting analysis of "Pedestal" and how people had to grow to like it. I personally enjoyed it, as it reminded me of the early-2000s pop-punk phase. I wonder what would've happened had it been framed a such instead, rather than a good song with questionable vocals. I would've loved to see this qualify, but not at "Ulveham"'s expense. Aww man, "Before the Party's Over" has to be the strongest song of the bunch, but I do agree with you in terms of failing to provide buildup before the last minute. I thought the MV had good ideas in terms of staging inspiration; I thought that in Malmo, it was a matter of refining the concept rather than scrapping it altogether (e.g. better camera angles, darker lighting, etc.). But Mustii's vocals really did him in; you could notice him going sharp from the first chorus.
About vocal quality, I'm not sure it's so much that people don't care... Maybe it's more that they just don't know what good vocal quality IS... Or they've already publicly fallen on swords over a studio version and feel a need to double down. My two cents.
I think the reason why Czechia failed to qualify is that it came right after Switzerland in the semi. Also, considering how close Australia was to qualifying, it probably was down to the vocals.
Czechia was even closer to qualifying than Australia (5 points away vs 6) so don't think it made that much difference. Czechia also got points from more countries than Norway, Norway was just lucky they had Denmark (who gave them 8 points compared to 5 points or less from other countries) to push them through to the final
@@carloscamejo7532 truthfully the song was always a touch dated- the revamped killed it, and the WEIRD confidence they were carrying about the revamped version 👀 RIP
San Marino actually performed it well in the semi Jury final. Somehow their semi performance went very off (alongside Earpiece issues). Very unfortunate.
Moldova, Azerbaijan, and Denmark's songs were just not Eurovision competitive period. I agree with San Marino though. It deserved better, but sadly people place higher standards for it to qualify.
Denmark should have its Anouk moment. The Dutch and Danish have many similarities but every year it is a bit disappointing. I loved Reddi but it was never gonna be a winning song. As of 2020 I think Malta had a chance with 'All of my love' but the performance should have been perfection. Anyway, I agree on almost every case. It's either the vocals or the staging and some goodwill from the public. I'm not sure what to expect for 2025. More native languages? More (gothic) rock? Lithuania, Serbia, Slovenia and maybe Montenegro presenting this new sound? Ireland being brave again? Ukraine giving us quality? This is a competition but I think for most of the viewers this isn't about nationality. Look at Finland and Slovenia. It used to be different but the public vote has changed. I'm looking forward to see what is happening. Not the drama we have seen last year but maybe a future of ESC?
One Milkali feels like a random album track submitted to Eurovision. I agree, more hype, male it bigger, make it feel like youre strongest song even. Where Armenia did it amazalingly Austria fumbled
I got a long post but here we go.. I basically agree with everything you said, but got some stuf to add. Moldova needed the clones back. And they could have given it a mysterious feel on stage, but meh! Albania's song was not good to begin with, i agree. San Marino and Malta have that problem where they need to give real quality in order to be noticed like with Destiny, and the chameleon song from Michela. As a studio cut i actually prefer Loop over Liar, but Cyprus can send something average and still qualify. Azerb song was indeed dated. AU indeed messed up with the staging and poor promotion, and his vocal was not good enough either. Iceland was dated, period. Hera deserved a better song, and i agree they were voting against that other song. CR made perfect use of the stage and props, but i don't think people were interested in that kind of rocksong this year. Belgium indeed had a song problem. Gustaf song was dated, but if you still know how to sell it, it will turn heads. And the staging was amazing with the white and pink. Denmark song was too generic and basic, and she was not moving much either. It felt like a rejected Swedish production song. Poland actually did too much the wrong way.. and the vocals were not good either. I still like the studio cut though. And yes im gonna need Malta to drop the 30 songs nf stuff. It's hurting them.
I really don't know what happened with San Marino because we know the singer can sing live and we've even seen her sing this song well Czechia : I would've removed the spoken beat drop part. It broke the flow too much Malta : The song did not stand out at all in any aspect...
the comment about before the party’s over taking too long to peak i feel is fair even as someone who loves the song and it was my favourite. but i feel like the performance had the potential to hold people over until the final impactful minute but Mustii’s vocals RUINED the magic and introspection as well as the staging /camera work feeling safe for a very cinematic song. i feel like if the swiss team had this they would’ve done so much better and i still do believe it could’ve been a winning package.
I agree that some of the songs had the wrong introduction, either with non-revamped unpolished version or with poor vocals on stage or with a bad music video. But here's the thing - I don't think that the majority of viewers on the night were aware of it. I agree that Malta, Czechia, and Australia all botched their intros, but I feel like other aspects are also involved. In case of Malta, I feel like there is a certain element of robbery for it being a microstate. Give this song and performer to Norway or Greece and it's an easy qualifier. Malta and San Marino need to put a triple effort only to qualify. They need a top 10-worthy song to scrape through. On the other end, Ukraine or Sweden would need a disaster of major proportions to not qualify. Sadly, the playing field is not the same. Similar with San Marino. Sure, the vocals were not the cleanest, but give it to Finland, vocals and all, it's through. Australia had a staging that, much like its music video, didn't have a narrative, and plodded around. Also, some people are biased against a dark-skinned man dressed in feminine clothes. I mean, the song isn't among my qualifiers either, but I feel like if a beautiful white diva in a gown sang it, many fans would be all ''slay kween'' over it. Czechia... maybe just isn't a really strong song, sorry... I respect people liking it, but I find the chorus a bit jarring. I agree that the staging was right, and that she improved. I love Belgian song, but yeah... the staging and his singing could have been much better. :( Moldova's staging was too bright for this sentiment. This isn't Loin D'Ici. That's a bubbly song. In the Middle is a dark song. No way it should have been staged that way. Poland was really all over the place with the staging. Also, her vocals were tad off at places. And also, the song is very catchy and cute, but gets too repetitive. Albania, Azerbaijan, Denmark, and especially Iceland just had uneventful songs that also didn't pop-up on stage, and I feel like non-qualifications were obvious. In fact, if Sand was by Malta or San Marino, it would not have finished as ''high'' as 12th, but last.
As a song, Malta just didn't "pop" either. Before the staging for Eurovision was revealed, it was usually near the bottom in fan rankings. Sure the dancing took an impressive amount of talent to do, but doing a solo for too long can bore people.
San Marino was weird because i feel like there was an in ear issue ora sth?. ..this was her worst perfomance and she did sound much better in the ones before? Off beat too
Idk i feel like i watched every damn besa clip and never heard her say its American or hip hop etc... Maybe i missed some? (not that the revamp was all that)
Malta will always have to try harder bc they don´t really have any diaspora but this year specially in their semi final there was no way they would qualify with Austria and Georgia also competing and dont forget Austria barely made it too....i miss their authencity.
Aiko and Czechia did everything right. They just didn't qualify because someone who shouldn't have been there was there, and took her spot. (Feel free to delete if you want, just needed to vent about my girl not making it)
OH REALLY, that is the only reason, and not that the song is very generic and forgettable and that Switzerland competed before them and Austria after rendering it useless, forgettable and obsolete. For fuck's sake, i watched it with casual friends the second semi final, and everyone forgot about the song.
@@petarpoljak6918 I mean, Aiko came 11th, and if *srael was disqualified, like they should've been (that's not the point here tho), she would've been bumped up to 10th, and therefore would've qualified. It's basic math sweetie.
@@jirachieon I rather be cold and cynical then naive and optimistic since this is a competition, and many fans need a reality check when they're favorites don't qualify, since there is always a REASON, and it the last 3 years, none of the NQ surprised me. And just say "We can be nice everybody", cause with "y'all" you sound stereotypical and cringeworthy. Also if you think my attitude is "CRAZEY", you really wouldn't want to know the comments from my friends and family.
In the Netherlands we had black/Asian participants more than once, some of them did very well Edsilia Rombley 5th Ruth Jacott 6th. Jeangu’s song was okay but the staging was a mess. I hope we keep choosing the best song, no matter the skin colour of the artist ♥️
@AlesiaMichelle I agree, if you are going to revamp after a national final version why wasn't the song revamped before. Acts win then revamp to a version they want to sing in ESC ,revamp before NF. 1994 uk revamped the song for ESC and sounded different ,not much but the classical instrumental section of the song got lost in the revamp where the Selection version stood out
Best eurovision content creator hands DOWN !!!
Awww ur too kind
It’s actually insane how Aiko Pedestal improved from that traumatic NF performance to the slick ESC performance
Yep, the glow up was real.
There are so many lessons in failures 🎉
Also this year was SO strong. There was literally one DOA song. One. Everything else was CHOICES. You either PLAY or you STAY in the semis. And feckless players were rewarded with early tickets home (save for two robberies).
@@pogodziej 💯
And yet Belgium fails to ever learn from their failures.
Thank you for calling out the anti-blackness. We need to say the quiet things out loud!
oh i love this idea of video
@@SleepyNoah15 thanks
First year since 1974(my first contest viewing aged 3) that I didnt watch the final. Whilst i agree with a lot of what you say ,would love a corrsepodning video as to why certain songs qualified. Hopefully juries are brought back to semi finals sooner rather than later.
Malta: Definitely robbed but played pretty often the on biggest radio station here in Sweden.
Australia and Czechia: Better than many songs in the final.
Denmark and Albania: 😂.
I’m glad to hear Malta is doing a 16 song nf and the production will probably be good for the first impression😊
I agree with you about Australia; THEY NEDEED A THEME, A COLOR, SOMETHING THAT MADE THEM STAND OUT
Moldova: The NF staging was a big nope, they improved it, the vocals were good, but ultimately the song is very weak.
Albania: The English and the revamp for me killed the song. The lyrics and song's structure in English seem weird. It was clearly translated INTO English.
San Marino: I think it was good, but it's San Marino, when you have Senhit and FloRida with a very good song but ultimately it flopped, idk what they can do more.
Azerbaijan: So boring, even the second guy couldn't save it.
Australia: Total trainwreck. Very bad vocals, the dress is a disaster, staging is a mess.
Iceland: I agree, DOA. This would do great in 90's or early 00's.
Czechia: It was good, this actually could be a finalist.
Belgium: This was disappointing, because studio version is way way better than live, the vocals were a big downgrade. Plus, he has no big charisma and seemed weird sometimes, maybe due to poor staging.
Denmark: Static performance is not necessarily bad, but this is so generic and flavorless. Better than Love is Forever, though.
Poland: Terrible vocals, but exceptional staging, I think they couldn't do more.
Malta: This is great, the staging improved the song a lot, but the song itself is weak. Doing Eleni Foureira / Chanel works.
Megara ear-piece malfunctioned and she tried to catch-up
@@heppolo ear piece malfunctions don’t create bum notes. I will die on this hill.
@AlesiaMichelle you can see it on her face, she panicked because she noticed the timing was off at around 50ish second, she then tried to catch up and failed.
@@heppolo Again, being behind doesn't yeild the bum notes. BUT! I still think what "killed" this was simply the lack of momentum and hype for the entry as a whole. Fans were nowhere near staining this to the degree it would have needed to make it through.
QUICK! Alesia got a new video!
HAha!
I'm surprised that "11:11" failed to qualify, especially because they had momentum on their side going into the semi-final. Listening back on the performance...good God, what happened to Kenzy's vocals? I felt like that was what did it in. Same thing with One Milkali (One Blood); it seemed that Electric Fields had the audiences' attention going into the semi-final.
Speaking of momentum, that's an interesting analysis of "Pedestal" and how people had to grow to like it. I personally enjoyed it, as it reminded me of the early-2000s pop-punk phase. I wonder what would've happened had it been framed a such instead, rather than a good song with questionable vocals. I would've loved to see this qualify, but not at "Ulveham"'s expense.
Aww man, "Before the Party's Over" has to be the strongest song of the bunch, but I do agree with you in terms of failing to provide buildup before the last minute. I thought the MV had good ideas in terms of staging inspiration; I thought that in Malmo, it was a matter of refining the concept rather than scrapping it altogether (e.g. better camera angles, darker lighting, etc.). But Mustii's vocals really did him in; you could notice him going sharp from the first chorus.
Czechia - Would’ve qualified with juries. Norway out.
Australia - Would’ve qualified with juries. Finland out.
Not you talking about camera angles on Australia whilst listening to that vocal in the background 😂 Thankfully you addressed it though.
9:47 yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup this was very apparent in 2021, especially with the netherlands
About vocal quality, I'm not sure it's so much that people don't care... Maybe it's more that they just don't know what good vocal quality IS... Or they've already publicly fallen on swords over a studio version and feel a need to double down. My two cents.
I think the latter: they've already publicly fallen on swords over a studio version and feel a need to double down.
I think the reason why Czechia failed to qualify is that it came right after Switzerland in the semi. Also, considering how close Australia was to qualifying, it probably was down to the vocals.
Czechia was even closer to qualifying than Australia (5 points away vs 6) so don't think it made that much difference. Czechia also got points from more countries than Norway, Norway was just lucky they had Denmark (who gave them 8 points compared to 5 points or less from other countries) to push them through to the final
Scared of Heights sounds like it belongs on a commercial for Sandals Resorts... In 2010.
@@carloscamejo7532 THIS
Im dead😂
Albania's revamp downgraded the song majorly.
It suddenly started to sound dated
@@carloscamejo7532 truthfully the song was always a touch dated- the revamped killed it, and the WEIRD confidence they were carrying about the revamped version 👀 RIP
San Marino actually performed it well in the semi Jury final. Somehow their semi performance went very off (alongside Earpiece issues). Very unfortunate.
Moldova, Azerbaijan, and Denmark's songs were just not Eurovision competitive period. I agree with San Marino though. It deserved better, but sadly people place higher standards for it to qualify.
I was sure Malta would gone through, but 1. performance was dead end afterall.
Denmark should have its Anouk moment. The Dutch and Danish have many similarities but every year it is a bit disappointing. I loved Reddi but it was never gonna be a winning song.
As of 2020 I think Malta had a chance with 'All of my love' but the performance should have been perfection. Anyway, I agree on almost every case. It's either the vocals or the staging and some goodwill from the public.
I'm not sure what to expect for 2025. More native languages? More (gothic) rock? Lithuania, Serbia, Slovenia and maybe Montenegro presenting this new sound? Ireland being brave again? Ukraine giving us quality? This is a competition but I think for most of the viewers this isn't about nationality. Look at Finland and Slovenia. It used to be different but the public vote has changed.
I'm looking forward to see what is happening. Not the drama we have seen last year but maybe a future of ESC?
One Milkali feels like a random album track submitted to Eurovision.
I agree, more hype, male it bigger, make it feel like youre strongest song even.
Where Armenia did it amazalingly Austria fumbled
I got a long post but here we go.. I basically agree with everything you said, but got some stuf to add. Moldova needed the clones back. And they could have given it a mysterious feel on stage, but meh! Albania's song was not good to begin with, i agree. San Marino and Malta have that problem where they need to give real quality in order to be noticed like with Destiny, and the chameleon song from Michela. As a studio cut i actually prefer Loop over Liar, but Cyprus can send something average and still qualify. Azerb song was indeed dated. AU indeed messed up with the staging and poor promotion, and his vocal was not good enough either. Iceland was dated, period. Hera deserved a better song, and i agree they were voting against that other song. CR made perfect use of the stage and props, but i don't think people were interested in that kind of rocksong this year. Belgium indeed had a song problem. Gustaf song was dated, but if you still know how to sell it, it will turn heads. And the staging was amazing with the white and pink. Denmark song was too generic and basic, and she was not moving much either. It felt like a rejected Swedish production song. Poland actually did too much the wrong way.. and the vocals were not good either. I still like the studio cut though. And yes im gonna need Malta to drop the 30 songs nf stuff. It's hurting them.
I really don't know what happened with San Marino because we know the singer can sing live and we've even seen her sing this song well
Czechia : I would've removed the spoken beat drop part. It broke the flow too much
Malta : The song did not stand out at all in any aspect...
the comment about before the party’s over taking too long to peak i feel is fair even as someone who loves the song and it was my favourite.
but i feel like the performance had the potential to hold people over until the final impactful minute but Mustii’s vocals RUINED the magic and introspection as well as the staging /camera work feeling safe for a very cinematic song.
i feel like if the swiss team had this they would’ve done so much better and i still do believe it could’ve been a winning package.
It could have been a winning packed with a more optimal arrangement, stronger staging, and ofc a flawless vocal execution.
I agree that some of the songs had the wrong introduction, either with non-revamped unpolished version or with poor vocals on stage or with a bad music video. But here's the thing - I don't think that the majority of viewers on the night were aware of it. I agree that Malta, Czechia, and Australia all botched their intros, but I feel like other aspects are also involved.
In case of Malta, I feel like there is a certain element of robbery for it being a microstate. Give this song and performer to Norway or Greece and it's an easy qualifier. Malta and San Marino need to put a triple effort only to qualify. They need a top 10-worthy song to scrape through. On the other end, Ukraine or Sweden would need a disaster of major proportions to not qualify. Sadly, the playing field is not the same. Similar with San Marino. Sure, the vocals were not the cleanest, but give it to Finland, vocals and all, it's through.
Australia had a staging that, much like its music video, didn't have a narrative, and plodded around. Also, some people are biased against a dark-skinned man dressed in feminine clothes. I mean, the song isn't among my qualifiers either, but I feel like if a beautiful white diva in a gown sang it, many fans would be all ''slay kween'' over it. Czechia... maybe just isn't a really strong song, sorry... I respect people liking it, but I find the chorus a bit jarring. I agree that the staging was right, and that she improved.
I love Belgian song, but yeah... the staging and his singing could have been much better. :(
Moldova's staging was too bright for this sentiment. This isn't Loin D'Ici. That's a bubbly song. In the Middle is a dark song. No way it should have been staged that way. Poland was really all over the place with the staging. Also, her vocals were tad off at places. And also, the song is very catchy and cute, but gets too repetitive.
Albania, Azerbaijan, Denmark, and especially Iceland just had uneventful songs that also didn't pop-up on stage, and I feel like non-qualifications were obvious. In fact, if Sand was by Malta or San Marino, it would not have finished as ''high'' as 12th, but last.
Malta and San Marino are the reasons I think we need juries in the semis.
As a song, Malta just didn't "pop" either. Before the staging for Eurovision was revealed, it was usually near the bottom in fan rankings. Sure the dancing took an impressive amount of talent to do, but doing a solo for too long can bore people.
San Marino was weird because i feel like there was an in ear issue ora sth?. ..this was her worst perfomance and she did sound much better in the ones before? Off beat too
Idk i feel like i watched every damn besa clip and never heard her say its American or hip hop etc... Maybe i missed some? (not that the revamp was all that)
Noting: She literally said it TO ME and in a few other Turquois carpet interviews.
i love czech entry
Malta will always have to try harder bc they don´t really have any diaspora but this year specially in their semi final there was no way they would qualify with Austria and Georgia also competing and dont forget Austria barely made it too....i miss their authencity.
But last place is full robbery. Malta is also a reason I think we need juries.
Aiko and Czechia did everything right. They just didn't qualify because someone who shouldn't have been there was there, and took her spot. (Feel free to delete if you want, just needed to vent about my girl not making it)
Who can that be?
OH REALLY, that is the only reason, and not that the song is very generic and forgettable and that Switzerland competed before them and Austria after rendering it useless, forgettable and obsolete. For fuck's sake, i watched it with casual friends the second semi final, and everyone forgot about the song.
@@petarpoljak6918 I totally understand where you are coming from but the attitude here is crazy!! We can be nice y'all..
@@petarpoljak6918 I mean, Aiko came 11th, and if *srael was disqualified, like they should've been (that's not the point here tho), she would've been bumped up to 10th, and therefore would've qualified. It's basic math sweetie.
@@jirachieon I rather be cold and cynical then naive and optimistic since this is a competition, and many fans need a reality check when they're favorites don't qualify, since there is always a REASON, and it the last 3 years, none of the NQ surprised me.
And just say "We can be nice everybody", cause with "y'all" you sound stereotypical and cringeworthy.
Also if you think my attitude is "CRAZEY", you really wouldn't want to know the comments from my friends and family.
Speak on it, the lowkey casual racism Europe has?!??! Is noticed during Eurovision
In the Netherlands we had black/Asian participants more than once, some of them did very well Edsilia Rombley 5th Ruth Jacott 6th. Jeangu’s song was okay but the staging was a mess. I hope we keep choosing the best song, no matter the skin colour of the artist ♥️
@ it’s more of a deeper issue… tbh….
Oh I dislike revamps,
@@stevengoode7194 we just need Albania to learn this truth.
@AlesiaMichelle I agree, if you are going to revamp after a national final version why wasn't the song revamped before. Acts win then revamp to a version they want to sing in ESC ,revamp before NF. 1994 uk revamped the song for ESC and sounded different ,not much but the classical instrumental section of the song got lost in the revamp where the Selection version stood out