Thank you! I shot various Glocks, M&Ps, and the Walther PDP. I was best when aiming with M&P 2.0 metal (full size). Since polymer one is cheaper, this video helped give me valuable insight into differences.
Nice video. I picked up the 2.0 9mm on a whim last summer. It was suppose to be a range pistol for my wife who wanted something with a manual safety. I carried a Dan Wesson 9mm 1911 for a couple of years and the safety on the M&P feels natural to me. The 2.0 hasn't replaced my optic equipped VP9 but it does get it's fair share of carry time. I'm currently waiting to see if my first responder status will allow me to get my hands on the all black 2.0 Metal.
Thank you. Yeah, the 2.0 definitely sits well with me. I've played around with a vp9, but I never bought one. That black 2.0 metal is definitely cool looking.
I have the Metal and just this past week got another metal gun . A CZ shadow 2 compact. With the compact they went with the Aluminum lower also vs the steel of the larger one. Cut a good 10oz off the weight over the full sized shadow 2.
@@fullarmortrainingllc I have not had a chance to shoot it yet. I don't own the full sized but Check out Honest Outlaws recent review of the Shadow 2 compact and he talks a bit about it. He runs the full sized in competition. ruclips.net/video/jyJRpp4Bp9Y/видео.html
Great Video, Why I selected your video was the pistols optic (CORE) I am having a problem finding an optic to fit my M&P9L CORE probably the first edition. I have bought a vortex razor red dot and a Leupold Delta Pro and both do not fit. I even called Leupold yesterday and they do not make a plate for it lighter. I am not sure if the M&P9L has the same foot print as the new 2.0, do you have any info you could share?
The 1.0 and 2.0 have slightly different mounting plates. I know c&h precision makes a plate, but for rmr footprint optics only like the holosun and trijicon rmr. I would check midway usa or optics planet. I apologize, but I do not have any experience with the 1.0 all mine are are 2.0
Thank you! No, it hasn't rusted on me in the last year, and I doubt it will. Maintenance wise, they're the same. That being said, think of it like having a black versus white vehicle.
Aluminum does not rust like steel. It may have oxidation corrosion over time on BARE parts but this is pretty well covered. The frame will not rust like a steel one would sitting in a safe etc for a long time or even carrying.
How does the slide release compare between the two? As a lefty the detent on the polymer 2.0's makes it a non-starter but it looks like the metal ones don't have the detent.
That is correct. I found it somewhat easy. There are plenty of videos online that show you. Apex tactical has a really section part in their trigger installation video that step by step helps tremendously.
Good video showing the differences between the two but you should have weighed the light and done the math to see the real difference in the weights of the frames.
I see the metal frame of striker fire pistols being a trend toward the future much like red dots and lasers were/are. This will be the gucci glock round two. As for me, I'm interested in this just because I like metal frames and the fact it's becoming readily available among other OEM's besides Sig, Canik, IWI, and aftermarket's is a good choice for consumers if they want it. Metal frames shoot flatter and are more rigid stock for stock vs. Polymer
I agree with you. I wish S&W would have gone steel, though. The frame feels more solid in hand, but it is only 2 ounces heavier. To me, a steel frame would have made more sense.
I'll have to watch how things go with these the next 6-7 years. That's how long it took the M&P 2.0 to finally land in CA, and have all the kinks worked out.
2oz isn't a lot, but its roughly 20% heavier. I do agree with you, just wanted to point that out. I expected a CZ Shadow heft, but it's much closer to polymer than that.
Yeah, they shoot about the same. Obviously, the metal feels a little more solid in the hand, but it's not terrible. Maybe one day they'll put a steel frame on one.
@@fullarmortrainingllc yeah, one can hope. I wish we could find out a "no bs" reason behind the development. If they were seeing a particular data point significantly improve, or was it solely a cash grab. I don't care which one it is, because I'm more interested in the engineering reasons. I think we know which one it was, but still.
@FrankLewis040 absolutely, there are so many different routes I would rather see them go in firearm development. I would also like to see the reasoning behind it. Only thing I can think is standing out.
@@B_R_ the frame is what I'm referring to. The polymer frame was just over 10 oz and the metal was 2 oz heavier, hence the 20%. Not talking about the overall weight.
@HelloThere-ez6rb first, it's an iconic weapon. That being said, im not a fan of the grip. It was to wide for my liking. It felt very chunky in my hand. The second thing was hammer fired. I am not a fan of hammer fired guns. Last,the exposed barrel. I wasn't a big fan of that. Mostly the first two things though. I owned one for a couple years and ended up selling it to get a second m&p 2.0
@@fullarmortrainingllc Ok, fair points! Thanks for your insight. I want my first .40 (despite the hate) and debating between berreta 96 or m&p 2.0 do you have a full size 5" or the 4" I'm going to see if the range has any of these. if I got m&p my next fuss is the 5" or 4" I hear the 5" almost has no extra benefit performance wise, or very smalll
@HelloThere-ez6rb yes, I have the 5", the 4.25", and the 4". I like the 4.25" best because it's full size. I'm a big fan of it and carry it daily. It is 100% personal preference though. The only thing I would say is test before buying, get something you can shoot, and would want to carry everyday.
I wish they add a compact with metal frame. Looking forward to a full review on the metal full size.
I agree, I wish they would make a steel frame too. Full metal review coming soon.
100% this.... If they a make 4in/15rd compact version they will get my money.
i want one !
Good Information. Looking forward to watching more of your content.
Thank you for the support.
Good information
Thank you!
Heck yeah, this is a video that needs to happen.
Dropping tonight
Thank you! I shot various Glocks, M&Ps, and the Walther PDP. I was best when aiming with M&P 2.0 metal (full size). Since polymer one is cheaper, this video helped give me valuable insight into differences.
Awesome! I'm glad you found it helpful!
Nice video. I picked up the 2.0 9mm on a whim last summer. It was suppose to be a range pistol for my wife who wanted something with a manual safety. I carried a Dan Wesson 9mm 1911 for a couple of years and the safety on the M&P feels natural to me. The 2.0 hasn't replaced my optic equipped VP9 but it does get it's fair share of carry time. I'm currently waiting to see if my first responder status will allow me to get my hands on the all black 2.0 Metal.
Thank you. Yeah, the 2.0 definitely sits well with me. I've played around with a vp9, but I never bought one. That black 2.0 metal is definitely cool looking.
Appreciate it. Thank you
Of course. Thank you for watching
I have the Metal and just this past week got another metal gun . A CZ shadow 2 compact. With the compact they went with the Aluminum lower also vs the steel of the larger one. Cut a good 10oz off the weight over the full sized shadow 2.
How does it shoot compared to the steel frame of the Full size? I've never owned a cz, but have been looking at them recently.
@@fullarmortrainingllc I have not had a chance to shoot it yet. I don't own the full sized but Check out Honest Outlaws recent review of the Shadow 2 compact and he talks a bit about it. He runs the full sized in competition. ruclips.net/video/jyJRpp4Bp9Y/видео.html
Great Video, Why I selected your video was the pistols optic (CORE) I am having a problem finding an optic to fit my M&P9L CORE probably the first edition. I have bought a vortex razor red dot and a Leupold Delta Pro and both do not fit. I even called Leupold yesterday and they do not make a plate for it lighter. I am not sure if the M&P9L has the same foot print as the new 2.0, do you have any info you could share?
The 1.0 and 2.0 have slightly different mounting plates. I know c&h precision makes a plate, but for rmr footprint optics only like the holosun and trijicon rmr. I would check midway usa or optics planet. I apologize, but I do not have any experience with the 1.0 all mine are are 2.0
The metal version is not only beautiful but the gun shoots like warm butter!! Best gun I have ever shot and very happy I decided to purchase
Absolutely. I wish it was a steel frame, but I still love it
Awesome video ..just wanted to ask Will the metal version rust ? And maintenance wise which will be easier? Thank you in advance
Thank you! No, it hasn't rusted on me in the last year, and I doubt it will. Maintenance wise, they're the same. That being said, think of it like having a black versus white vehicle.
Aluminum does not rust like steel. It may have oxidation corrosion over time on BARE parts but this is pretty well covered. The frame will not rust like a steel one would sitting in a safe etc for a long time or even carrying.
How does the slide release compare between the two? As a lefty the detent on the polymer 2.0's makes it a non-starter but it looks like the metal ones don't have the detent.
To me, they feel the same. The new 2.0s have a noticeably better extended slide release
So you can install a manual safety on the m&ps without a safety alrdy? so pop the thing out and good to install, is it easy to install?
That is correct. I found it somewhat easy. There are plenty of videos online that show you. Apex tactical has a really section part in their trigger installation video that step by step helps tremendously.
Hi , would like to know is the metal MP m2.0 hard to handle for beginner? Thanks
No, I think the full size is perfect for a beginner.
Good video showing the differences between the two but you should have weighed the light and done the math to see the real difference in the weights of the frames.
While I understand what you mean, the majority of questions I get are the weight difference between the two and not how much they weigh.
Good Video. Thanks. Can you let me know what is your optic?
Trijicon rmr type 2. It's a 3.25 moa red dot
@@fullarmortrainingllc Thanks
I see the metal frame of striker fire pistols being a trend toward the future much like red dots and lasers were/are. This will be the gucci glock round two.
As for me, I'm interested in this just because I like metal frames and the fact it's becoming readily available among other OEM's besides Sig, Canik, IWI, and aftermarket's is a good choice for consumers if they want it. Metal frames shoot flatter and are more rigid stock for stock vs. Polymer
I agree with you. I wish S&W would have gone steel, though. The frame feels more solid in hand, but it is only 2 ounces heavier. To me, a steel frame would have made more sense.
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Do they take the same magazines?
Yes, they do.
I'll have to watch how things go with these the next 6-7 years. That's how long it took the M&P 2.0 to finally land in CA, and have all the kinks worked out.
They have both been amazing. I have a few thousand through both models at this point, and they perform flawlessly
aluminum is a great metal to use here❤
True, but I would have preferred a steel frame.
2oz isn't a lot, but its roughly 20% heavier. I do agree with you, just wanted to point that out. I expected a CZ Shadow heft, but it's much closer to polymer than that.
Yeah, they shoot about the same. Obviously, the metal feels a little more solid in the hand, but it's not terrible. Maybe one day they'll put a steel frame on one.
@@fullarmortrainingllc yeah, one can hope. I wish we could find out a "no bs" reason behind the development. If they were seeing a particular data point significantly improve, or was it solely a cash grab. I don't care which one it is, because I'm more interested in the engineering reasons. I think we know which one it was, but still.
@FrankLewis040 absolutely, there are so many different routes I would rather see them go in firearm development. I would also like to see the reasoning behind it. Only thing I can think is standing out.
2oz would only be 20% heavier if the polymer m&p weighed 10oz.
The metal is actually around 7-8% heavier, not 20%.
@@B_R_ the frame is what I'm referring to. The polymer frame was just over 10 oz and the metal was 2 oz heavier, hence the 20%. Not talking about the overall weight.
Shame that S&W can't make tungsten palm swells instead of releasing a completely new model that weighs the same.
I couldn't agree more. They need a steel frame already. I don't know why they won't it would sell like crazy.
Oops you forgot the much better trigger in the metal. MUCH BETTER!!!
They have the same trigger. They're both the new version with the upgraded flat trigger.
I get this Gucci designer thing when I see the polymer, for me no picattinny and some adherence to classic design, night train blueing,,,
I don't know about Gucci. Everyone has their preferences, but for me, im not buying a gun I can't attach a flashlight to.
Now I can justify getting an m&p lol
Definitely, I have tried many brands and models, and m&p is what stuck for me. I plan on doing a glock and m&p comparison in the future
@@fullarmortrainingllchave you tried the berreta 92 or 96. If so thoughts between the two?
@HelloThere-ez6rb first, it's an iconic weapon. That being said, im not a fan of the grip. It was to wide for my liking. It felt very chunky in my hand. The second thing was hammer fired. I am not a fan of hammer fired guns. Last,the exposed barrel. I wasn't a big fan of that. Mostly the first two things though. I owned one for a couple years and ended up selling it to get a second m&p 2.0
@@fullarmortrainingllc Ok, fair points! Thanks for your insight. I want my first .40 (despite the hate) and debating between berreta 96 or m&p 2.0 do you have a full size 5" or the 4" I'm going to see if the range has any of these. if I got m&p my next fuss is the 5" or 4" I hear the 5" almost has no extra benefit performance wise, or very smalll
@HelloThere-ez6rb yes, I have the 5", the 4.25", and the 4". I like the 4.25" best because it's full size. I'm a big fan of it and carry it daily. It is 100% personal preference though. The only thing I would say is test before buying, get something you can shoot, and would want to carry everyday.
I have the polymer full size m&p 2.0 but I would like to get the metal one as my edc and my the polymer for home defense
That's what I use them for. Both are fantastic options, and I highly recommend them.