I have a couple of questions. 1. Why didnt you just have it laced to a tubeless rim? 2. Are you not worried that the rim isnt designed for a tubeless tyre and therefore not designed to hold a tyre?
Hi, Andy - re: 1) Rims made for spokes that don't penetrate the rim aren't common, nor cheap (that I know of). 2) You gotta know and trust your own "eyeball engineering", but offhand, I can't think of what difference the tube would make in the interior design of a rim.
Hope this doesn’t get lost in the sea of comments, but I’m a mechanic across the pond, here in Florida. We use a product called Ride-On Tire Balancer and Sealant.. We have been using it exclusively for 6-7 years and don’t spin balance anymore. We pump in the correct dosage of Ride-on and forget about it. We have not had a single comeback in 6-7 years for balancing.. The product hydro-dynamically balances the tire for the life of the tire without use of wheel weights. It also helps seal it if you run over a nail/screw. It makes our life so much easier. No more need for balancing!! I was very skeptical and was thinking maybe it’s good for slower bikes but not for faster sport bikes. But I put the proper dosage in my 2012 CBR1000RR then took it for a test ride at high speeds and it felt like I was riding on glass. At that point, I became a believer. The shop I wrench at, doesn’t even own a static or dynamic balancer. We only use ride-on. You should check it out! Here’s their link. Let me know what you think if you’re able to try it!! Cheers! 👍🏻 www.ride-on.com/us/support/tire-types/motorcycle-formula
I've seen similar products to this and heard of Ride-On also, compound internal balancing is a simple concept and it works, internal tyre sealants also work, Slime, Goop, Puncture Seal, UltraSafe and several other products all do the same, a great concept, but there are skeptics as with all things, it's just another option and choice we have available to us, thanks for posting.
3mm thickness of the sealant sounds like overkill on weight and rotational mass. An alternative with less mass, and for those without the patience to spread sealant evenly, is to use 3M adhesive tape. Just search RUclips with the phrase "tubeless motorcycle tire conversion", and you'll see the various ways that this has been done using tape. One guy did it with just $45 worth of materials.
Thanks Del, a very useful thing to do to spoke wheels and may join it onto my list of jobs, I might get a different bike in the spring. I usually change my own tyres but since buying two bikes with spoke wheels, I don't so this would help me. Hope you're both safe and well.
Hi James, that sounds exciting, it's always great to get a new bike, like emarbarking on a new adventure! I've never bothered changing my own tyres till now, but it's easier than it looks, just gotta build up practice with the levers and stock up on Weetabix! We're well here, hoping you're the same mate, D&Px
Great job.. I always , back in the day preferred tubes because you could change a tube ! How times have changed. I have plug kits in every vehicle now , and have used them . Normally on work mates cars or indeed neighbours ..they are a life saver ,had a couple of bike punctures that I've plugged to get home ..totally understand why you're doing this .. Peace and love to you both 👍🏻☮❤
Sure thing Brother, have had a few ruined days due to tubes, and interestingly the plug kit I carry, now has 4 plugs missing and not one of them has ever gone in my bike (or Penny's!), always stranded friends who never think to take precautions, always happy to help though, that's what we do aye?! Hope you're keeping safe and well there, keep smiling, D&Px
Excellent execution, and a good tip on degreasing before scuffing. But... why didn't you use 3M tape instead of gobs (3mm) of sealant? It's only the very lowest layer of sealant against the rim that seals out the air, and tape is much more uniform in weight distribution. Just some sealant flattened around the nipple depressions and then a single layer of tape over them all the way around the rim would have been lighter, more uniform, and faster to apply, while providing equal sealing - IMHO.
I keep seeing RUclips people using the 3M Marine Sealant 5200 with the 3M Extreme Sealing Tape 4411N. The 3M website has details about these products. For the protective shields over the nipples to allow them to rotate, I'd try just cutting out small squares of stiff plastic sheet with scissors. There are varying methods of tape application that you can find on RUclips with a search on "Outex" and "tubeless conversion" and "tubeless rim". To help with burnishing the tape (pressing the tape down firmly), I'd try using the back of a teaspoon or a tire removal "spoon". 3M makes the tape in varying widths, so you can select a width appropriate for your rims. Since that tape has gotten very expensive, I'd shop around for a place to buy just a few yards of it in the desired width.
Excellent job once again.I did a similar technique for my 990 Adventure wheels.But i only use sealant on each spoke and then 3m 4420 tape on top.I wonder if your way of doing it is ok for off road use.
@@souvikprofile If you are referring to my method,4 tire changes later and hard off road riding the tet fully loaded,no problems.I used the 3m 4420 tape and some marine tupe sealant.
Filthier than the front rim, musta used up whole paper towel.... nice n shine!! Bet 4 inch tire easier put on than front I bet.. great video!! As usual!
You can adjust them Will, same as usual should you ever need to, it's unlikely it would break the seal, but if it ever did, then a quick smear of the sealant would soon re-seal it!
The bit under the sealant doesn't move..you turn the square nut on the spoke... shouldn't need doing and it's only minimal twist to effect a big change...
Did the project rims have a ‘safety bead’? I have. 2013 T100 and would like to know if the rims have a safety bead. Supposedly it is safer to go tubeless on rims with safety beads.
Yes you do mate, im planning to use it for fabrication work, bending soft folds in sheet metal, curving heavy tube for frames, loads of uses other than pressing bearings in..! Thanks for your kind words buddy .
Firstly it always does work Colin, never let me down yet and ive done half a dozen sets now... but if you want to remove some to replace or adjust a spoke.. just use a wire mop on a drill and it just tears it out down to the metal in seconds, then just fill it back in again with some fresh sealant !
Nicely done Del, it looks very relaxing lol or it the great camera work by Penny. Nice looking new press you have mate, I would be lost with out my press. Penny and you have a good week, hope things are starting to get better over there. Cheers
Thanks mate, our Penny is dab hand with the camera and editing too... and the press will be a busy machine in the future, great for fabricating exercises, soft curve bending sheet metal and bending tubes and bars, as well as fitting bearings! Moving forward thanks to the support of our wonderful Patrons... hope life is ok there, we came out of lock down today into 'Tier2', the world is getting buy again, but restrictions still in place, but good news, UK approved the vaccine today, so maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel! Keep safe and well, D&Px
hi, Del love your work. my question: is really worth the hassle also price of the urethane ain't cheap. I ride my bike every day and I can't remember when I had a puncher last, maybe 10 years ago LOL. I only ride to work and is only 20 minutes ride daily. thanks for the video.
OK, as with all things, it's not just done to prevent punctures, but having had a couple of punctures in tubes it's not a day you forget! I'm not suggesting you should do it Fernando, just sharing my project that this is what I've chosen to do because I don't want the inconvenience of tubes any more... and you're lucky never to have had a puncture, indeed you can go many years without on, then get two in a month!! Just keep your fingers crossed!
@@Moonfleet41 I work 10 minutes away from home, even if I get a puncher I'll push it home. or just ride it with flat LOL I have 06 suzuki boulevard c50 and wheels are like the ones you doing up.I think is a good idea for people that travel long distances cruising from state to state.
Actually, I didn't already know that - about degreasing first. I was going to comment about doing degreasing after the abrasion. But, you knew better and me! One question - Wondering why you used the thin detailer's tape. Wouldn't the 1" tape be sufficient to the task?
Hi Scott, quite probably with a bit of muscling about, but the 5mm tape follows the curve of the wheel perfectly, and I have a couple of rolls handy, so using what I had! Trying the bend the wider tape is a little more challenging as it's less willing to stretch round the curve!
@@Moonfleet41 Hello back at you. Using what you have at hand - yep, I completely understand. Didn't understand about the bending the tape around the curve, but review of the video with that detail in mind shows the facility of the thinner tape.
@@Moonfleet41 - Yes, for rims with lots of lateral (side-to-side) curvature, bending tape in 2 directions (around the rim and also up the sides of the rim) requires the tape to stretch as well as bend, and it might pull loose with time. What other RUclipsrs have done when taping rims is to use 3 strips of a narrower tape - one for the center to cover the spoke holes, and one on either side to climb a little way up the side of the rim. Since 3M makes the tape in various widths, the installer can choose widths to suit the lateral curvature of the rim.
@@ianstorey2531 Hi again Ian, measure the size of the hole in your rim if you can, if not, then measure the dia. of the stem that's poking out of the tube where you pump the air in, go with the same size you currently have (Wemoto do all sizes on their website!)... best of luck with it mate.
That stuff looks like magic, Del! The wider tire set up is going to look pretty darn awesome! I see the UK was in the international news today re their choice of vaccines. BTW, I thought for sure you had a FRO video brewing re the shutdowns- 🤬! Stay safe - both of you. 🏍👍🏍
Hi Gary, yes looking forward to finish editing Friday's video as we mount the tyre and pop the whole on the bike for a stand back look... obviously we've had a preview, so we know what it looks like, so we hope you'll have the same reaction!! And yes, whatever anyone's thoughts on this virus, it is real, so to have the news of the vaccine is only positive, it really was shown here on our news as 'good day'... logistics for the Government to sort out, but maybe this is light at the end of the tunnel, it's been a long year. No FRO's mate on this topic, there's enough negativity in the world right now and we all need to look to the future for better days! Keep safe and well there, D&Px
Hello Del, did you put the same tyres back on the rims or did you change them for tubeless? Would tubeless tyres fit the rims? I don’t know. I have just purchased a used Bonneville and sealing the rims is probably going to be the first job. Keep up with the vids. Regards.
Many thanks for your kind words, really appreciate those, I just try to capture the moment and make it really watchable, it's good to know it's noticed, it motivates us to keep going as it's a lot work, but worth it! Keep well and safe, Pennyx
I love when they ask: "Where did you learn that?" and I answer: "There's a guy on YT who makes projects and I'm his subscriber" Almost in every video I find something that I'll use, not only with motorcycle, everyday skills. Thank you and keep on!
Thank you my friend, that's very kind and you're most welcome... we're glad the videos can inspire you to pick up new things and get stuff done yourself! Take care and keep safe from us both, D&Px
Del, I'm exploring this option as my inner tube keeps losing air. How long did you let the sealant dry and settle in between coats ? Any other tips you could recommend? Thanks mate!
Is there a cure time between applications? Like...You did the spoke holes, then another layer, then another layer. Do you have to wait between? Looks amazing, my friend. Hope Penny and yourself are doing well!
Hey buddy, nope, I did it all in one go, did the spoke holes, which took about 20mins, poking them all in to squeeze any air out, then spread that in nice and level, then build up the layers in 2-3 separate applications, till it's 3mm thick... it stayed pliable, although as I said in the video, with a much warmer garage this time, it was definitely curing quicker!... 10degrees cooler, and you could have left it half the day and come back to it... but one single application gets the job done, curing takes about 48hrs... (it's still tacky to the touch after 24hrs, then feels like the surface of a tyre the next day)... and thanks for the kind words, we're both fine, working round all the covid rules here, but keeping safe... hope you're the same there and getting out on the bad ass bike before the dark months come! D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 Most definitely getting some miles in, brother. But, I can usually ride 12 months here, so... LOLOL Glad to hear you guys are well. Stay safe!
ha ha yes mate, a little investment thanks to our kind Patrons like you, something to help with all manner of jobs from bearing changes to fabrication.. have a great week buddy, and keep the mall safe. D&Pxx
Hi Paul, I imagine it has some kind of influence in preventing the nipples turning, but I imagine it's purely a happy by-product and as for what it's worth, I've never had to adjust a spoke in my life, perhaps I've just been lucky, but in 40yrs and well over 70 bikes, with probably half of them having spokes, it's never once been an issue... perhaps it was in the old days, but that's even the same for old bikes from the 70's, they've always been fine!
Del quick question. Where did you get the 17 inch wheel for this project from. I have a Thunderbird and I'm thinking of changing my wheels and doing the same as you going tubeless. As always love the whole series and picking up loads of tips. But you already knew that.....Lol. Awesome as always Brother.
Hi mate, both wheels were built by Doug Richardson at Devon Wheel Building, he's a master of the art and a humble gentleman, they're not cheap mate, but top quality kit never is!
Hi Max, no link on the sealant, it's just Upol Tiger Seal and bought in Halfords, click and collect! And the tyre valve is the same as the one in the last video, it's the 8mm screw type and they're about £3 each from Wemoto... check the video Friday, there'll be a demonstration (or on the last video as already done!).
Hi del I have a triumph trophy 900 as you may remember I am needing a few parts including a sprag clutch can you recommend a parts dealer also keep up the great work Many thanks G burn
Hi Gav, i use Wemoto for general parts, and anything more focused like that i just go to the main dealer, you'll hardly ever find an independent parts store selling engine internals, maybe gasket sets, clutch plates and even shims, but they are all service parts and in general demand.. once you get to more specific internals, its really only the dealerships that will have the resources to get hold of them. Good luck with it buddy, let us know how you get on.
One of my kids was watching over my shoulder and said “He’s got skills” and got me thinking... yes he does. But he’s got way more patience! More than me that’s for damned sure. Beaut work again Del. Can’t wait to see that rear end...! Errm - the bike’s rear end.
Hi Paul, thank you for that mate, nothing better than the approval of the innocence of youth... tell him I said thanks! And don't knock it mate, if you got yourself a project you enjoyed, something you'd be excited to ride at the end, and no time limit, you'd soon develop the patience, it's well worth it when you see yourself making good results! Take care and look after the family mate, all the best, D&Px
As a retired mech fitter I would like to see your skills taught in schools so we would have more practical skilled youngsters and not a nation of Computer IT “ experts” nice work Dell.
Thank you most kindly brother, I appreciate that... you are right, of course, tradespeople struggle to get apprentices for manual trades, not just in the garage but building trades and anything constructive, it seems they all want to be entrepreneurs and do a degree in Events Management, time to get the skills back... as Jesse James said 'with these two hands I can change the world'.
Never had to Frank, on any spoke wheel I've owned, but for what it's worth, 3mm of rubber sealant doesn't prevent the spoke nipple from running with a spanner, and if in some way it breaks the seal, just a smear of sealant over the top of the split would re-seal it straight away.
No, the degreaser doesn't damage paint, but like any solvent, don't leave it on there long term, get it on there to get the grease off then wash it off with some water, as you would any solvent.
Your workmanship and thoroughness are outstanding! From prep and set-up to removal of the tape, everything was well thought out and done with skill. I'm now interested in hearing if you noticed any change in steering quickness or stability due to removal of the inner tubes' rotational mass.
Thank you for those kind words sir, it's a very enjoyable process and one I'll enjoy doing again. As for the feel of the lighter wheels, i guess i'll find out once i get it on the road, of course the sealant was about 1lb in weight between the two wheels, but not as much as the tubes and spoke bands would have weighed... they will be lighter, but not by much. have a great week and take care.. Del.
I am indeed mate, am loving it more every step, finding it hard to sell the Harley and happy to keep it whilst there's not much selling at the moment, and this may well go the same way!
No coats mate, i did it in one go, fill spoke holes first, poke it in to pop out the bubbles, spread that flat,, then three layers spread all round.. takes about an hour, and stays pliable throughout, cures in 48 hours..!
I don't suppose I will ever do this, however it's great to see it being done by somebody with skill. They must be transferable skills, so lets nominate Del for the next series of Bake Off 🤣 👍
Grand job again del One word of caution only In future be careful how you draw your hand across spoke nipple heads as some times they can incorrectly formed leaving razor sharp barbs sticking up or if they are tightened by a blade driver then again they can be left with razor sharp edges ( nasty cut fingers ) Watching from home today as I was in a serious car smash yesterday Other driver to blame on wrong side of road doing more than limit My car is totalled and I did manage to put my head thru the windscreen unfortunately but other than cut on forehead and sore all over I'm fine More time to watch del boys vids for a few days 👍👍
hi Gerald.. Bloody Hell mate, that sounds frightening, and it's good to hear you're ok, How much worse could that have turned out mate... looks like your guardian angel was flying with you yesterday.. I hope nobody else was hurt, i hear that December is referred to as the silly season for this. God speed for a full and complete recovery mate, and hope the insurers put you back where you should be with a replacement car.. Drop us a line and let us know how you're getting on mate, and Penny says, 'Get Well Soon".. Have a better week and keep safe aye. Del.
@@Moonfleet41 Not being indestructible del but I'm 6.4 19 stone ex rugby player To be honest I kind of peeled the wrecked Avensis off and got out absolutely raging Trust me guys im fine just sore Motor is mangled though absolutely trashed Been sin died from riding bike for a few days because of concussion which is a total bummer 😒😒
@@geraldgallagher825 ha ha, that made me smile mate, "peeling a mangled Avensis off your shoulders"... Like an Iron Brew advert.! Good on you mucker, give 'em hell.! (and remind me not to spill your pint.!)
Needs more cake. Also, considering the wheel's rippums at high speed, I'm slightly bemused by the lack of a fabric reinforcing band embedded within the last 'layer' as a belt, thereby thwarting Captain Centrifuge's far flung attempts at delaminating all your hard work with a rather jolly 'vertical' tank-slapper. Off the top of my head, with that sized wheel, I don't recommend any more than 287mph (approx : ) x
Nice one again Del 👌 there's a wheel builder near me, im thinking about the possibility of having spoked wheels made for my M1800 as I've never seen it done & in doing so i could experiment with new tyre sizes, hmmm big is best I'm already 160 front & 280 rear. Hmmmmm ideas ideas. Keep em coming lad.
What you gonna do if and when a spoke needs tightening?
I have a couple of questions.
1. Why didnt you just have it laced to a tubeless rim?
2. Are you not worried that the rim isnt designed for a tubeless tyre and therefore not designed to hold a tyre?
Hi, Andy -
re: 1) Rims made for spokes that don't penetrate the rim aren't common, nor cheap (that I know of).
2) You gotta know and trust your own "eyeball engineering", but offhand, I can't think of what
difference the tube would make in the interior design of a rim.
Never realised how little i really know about looking after bikes....it's education watching the way you work ....wish i knew you 20 years ago !
Thanks Pete, just sharing a few basics so we can all take care of our bikes and save a few quid!
Hope this doesn’t get lost in the sea of comments, but I’m a mechanic across the pond, here in Florida. We use a product called Ride-On Tire Balancer and Sealant.. We have been using it exclusively for 6-7 years and don’t spin balance anymore. We pump in the correct dosage of Ride-on and forget about it. We have not had a single comeback in 6-7 years for balancing.. The product hydro-dynamically balances the tire for the life of the tire without use of wheel weights. It also helps seal it if you run over a nail/screw. It makes our life so much easier. No more need for balancing!!
I was very skeptical and was thinking maybe it’s good for slower bikes but not for faster sport bikes. But I put the proper dosage in my 2012 CBR1000RR then took it for a test ride at high speeds and it felt like I was riding on glass. At that point, I became a believer. The shop I wrench at, doesn’t even own a static or dynamic balancer. We only use ride-on. You should check it out! Here’s their link. Let me know what you think if you’re able to try it!! Cheers! 👍🏻
www.ride-on.com/us/support/tire-types/motorcycle-formula
I've seen similar products to this and heard of Ride-On also, compound internal balancing is a simple concept and it works, internal tyre sealants also work, Slime, Goop, Puncture Seal, UltraSafe and several other products all do the same, a great concept, but there are skeptics as with all things, it's just another option and choice we have available to us, thanks for posting.
3mm thickness of the sealant sounds like overkill on weight and rotational mass. An alternative with less mass, and for those without the patience to spread sealant evenly, is to use 3M adhesive tape. Just search RUclips with the phrase "tubeless motorcycle tire conversion", and you'll see the various ways that this has been done using tape. One guy did it with just $45 worth of materials.
“But you knew that didn’t ya” - Brilliant.😆
I found that rather therapeutic to watch!
es un proceso largo pero bien detallado y explicado, cuantos días tarda en secar la silicona
Not days, maybe just 8hrs and you're safe to fit the tyres.
Thanks Del, a very useful thing to do to spoke wheels and may join it onto my list of jobs, I might get a different bike in the spring. I usually change my own tyres but since buying two bikes with spoke wheels, I don't so this would help me. Hope you're both safe and well.
Hi James, that sounds exciting, it's always great to get a new bike, like emarbarking on a new adventure! I've never bothered changing my own tyres till now, but it's easier than it looks, just gotta build up practice with the levers and stock up on Weetabix! We're well here, hoping you're the same mate, D&Px
Great job.. I always , back in the day preferred tubes because you could change a tube ! How times have changed. I have plug kits in every vehicle now , and have used them . Normally on work mates cars or indeed neighbours ..they are a life saver ,had a couple of bike punctures that I've plugged to get home ..totally understand why you're doing this ..
Peace and love to you both 👍🏻☮❤
Sure thing Brother, have had a few ruined days due to tubes, and interestingly the plug kit I carry, now has 4 plugs missing and not one of them has ever gone in my bike (or Penny's!), always stranded friends who never think to take precautions, always happy to help though, that's what we do aye?! Hope you're keeping safe and well there, keep smiling, D&Px
Excellent execution, and a good tip on degreasing before scuffing. But... why didn't you use 3M tape instead of gobs (3mm) of sealant?
It's only the very lowest layer of sealant against the rim that seals out the air, and tape is much more uniform in weight distribution.
Just some sealant flattened around the nipple depressions and then a single layer of tape over them all the way around the rim
would have been lighter, more uniform, and faster to apply, while providing equal sealing - IMHO.
I want to do the same with my RE... can u please mention a good gum and tape name... I m from India... thanks in advance ...
I keep seeing RUclips people using the 3M Marine Sealant 5200 with the 3M Extreme Sealing Tape 4411N. The 3M website has details about these products.
For the protective shields over the nipples to allow them to rotate, I'd try just cutting out small squares of stiff plastic sheet with scissors. There are varying methods of tape application that you can find on RUclips with a search on "Outex" and "tubeless conversion" and "tubeless rim". To help with burnishing the tape (pressing the tape down firmly), I'd try using the back of a teaspoon or a tire removal "spoon".
3M makes the tape in varying widths, so you can select a width appropriate for your rims. Since that tape has gotten very expensive, I'd shop around for a place to buy just a few yards of it in the desired width.
Im watching a man put roof sealant on a bike wheel.......and what's worrying is I'm enjoying this!
Like watching a re-run. Should have been one video.
Excellent job once again.I did a similar technique for my 990 Adventure wheels.But i only use sealant on each spoke and then 3m 4420 tape on top.I wonder if your way of doing it is ok for off road use.
Long term success?? I want do do the same with my RE.... what gum and tape u have used??
@@souvikprofile If you are referring to my method,4 tire changes later and hard off road riding the tet fully loaded,no problems.I used the 3m 4420 tape and some marine tupe sealant.
Filthier than the front rim, musta used up whole paper towel.... nice n shine!! Bet 4 inch tire easier put on than front I bet.. great video!! As usual!
Is it a 'cross that bridge' when it comes to adjusting spoke tension?
You can adjust them Will, same as usual should you ever need to, it's unlikely it would break the seal, but if it ever did, then a quick smear of the sealant would soon re-seal it!
Good Job Del
The bit under the sealant doesn't move..you turn the square nut on the spoke... shouldn't need doing and it's only minimal twist to effect a big change...
Wow! I’m well into this...good job and i cant wait to see that 180 monster on the back. Kind regards.
You and me both buddy, i recon it's gonna look epic.! !
Looks awesome Del
Thanks buddy, nothing like a new challenge! 👍
what do you do about the tire gage?
Did the project rims have a ‘safety bead’? I have. 2013 T100 and would like to know if the rims have a safety bead. Supposedly it is safer to go tubeless on rims with safety beads.
Del.. Nice job as always.. Nice new toys hiding in the background. I need a press and one of those balance stands and, and, as well.
Yes you do mate, im planning to use it for fabrication work, bending soft folds in sheet metal, curving heavy tube for frames, loads of uses other than pressing bearings in..! Thanks for your kind words buddy .
@@Moonfleet41 That's what I want one for...
Another good job done Delboy looking good.Tony👍
Thank you Sir!
Can’t imagine that’s good for wheel balance
2 years on is it still working as am looking had doing or getting it done thanks in advance
Yep !
Too Cool
Good video. Hope you are both well.
Yes we are Richard, hope you and your family are all well and safe there too!
Hi, What type tire are you placing on your ,now tubless, rim? Or should I buy a tubless tire.?
Yes, a tubeless tyre for this project !
Just a thought - how would you have removed the sealant if it had not worked?
Firstly it always does work Colin, never let me down yet and ive done half a dozen sets now... but if you want to remove some to replace or adjust a spoke.. just use a wire mop on a drill and it just tears it out down to the metal in seconds, then just fill it back in again with some fresh sealant !
have you got an update how the wheels are doing ?
Still performing exactly the same and any tubeless wheels.!
Another great vid mate ...sealing those wheels looked so gratifying..the wheels look really cool
Thanks buddy, it was a great pleasure and really easy to do!
Nicely done Del, it looks very relaxing lol or it the great camera work by Penny. Nice looking new press you have mate, I would be lost with out my press. Penny and you have a good week, hope things are starting to get better over there. Cheers
Thanks mate, our Penny is dab hand with the camera and editing too... and the press will be a busy machine in the future, great for fabricating exercises, soft curve bending sheet metal and bending tubes and bars, as well as fitting bearings! Moving forward thanks to the support of our wonderful Patrons... hope life is ok there, we came out of lock down today into 'Tier2', the world is getting buy again, but restrictions still in place, but good news, UK approved the vaccine today, so maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel! Keep safe and well, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41
Is this a silicon or urethane based sealant ?
Thanks
hi, Del love your work.
my question:
is really worth the hassle also price of the urethane ain't cheap.
I ride my bike every day and I can't remember when I had a puncher last, maybe 10 years ago LOL. I only ride to work and is only 20 minutes ride daily.
thanks for the video.
OK, as with all things, it's not just done to prevent punctures, but having had a couple of punctures in tubes it's not a day you forget! I'm not suggesting you should do it Fernando, just sharing my project that this is what I've chosen to do because I don't want the inconvenience of tubes any more... and you're lucky never to have had a puncture, indeed you can go many years without on, then get two in a month!! Just keep your fingers crossed!
@@Moonfleet41 I work 10 minutes away from home, even if I get a puncher I'll push it home. or just ride it with flat LOL
I have 06 suzuki boulevard c50 and wheels are like the ones you doing up.I think is a good idea for people that travel long distances cruising from state to state.
Actually, I didn't already know that - about degreasing first. I was going to comment about doing degreasing after the abrasion. But, you knew better and me!
One question - Wondering why you used the thin detailer's tape. Wouldn't the 1" tape be sufficient to the task?
Hi Scott, quite probably with a bit of muscling about, but the 5mm tape follows the curve of the wheel perfectly, and I have a couple of rolls handy, so using what I had! Trying the bend the wider tape is a little more challenging as it's less willing to stretch round the curve!
@@Moonfleet41 Hello back at you. Using what you have at hand - yep, I completely understand. Didn't understand about the bending the tape around the curve, but review of the video with that detail in mind shows the facility of the thinner tape.
@@Moonfleet41 - Yes, for rims with lots of lateral (side-to-side) curvature, bending tape in 2 directions (around the rim and also up the sides of the rim) requires the tape to stretch as well as bend, and it might pull loose with time.
What other RUclipsrs have done when taping rims is to use 3 strips of a narrower tape - one for the center to cover the spoke holes, and one on either side to climb a little way up the side of the rim. Since 3M makes the tape in various widths, the installer can choose widths to suit the lateral curvature of the rim.
Hi cracking idea , what was the black silicone that you used ?
It's not silicone buddy, it's a seam sealer adhesive called Upol Tiger Seal.
@@Moonfleet41 excellent I've just seen your other vid and got some ordered 👍 are 8mm valves the standard size for tubes, cheers again
@@ianstorey2531 Hi again Ian, measure the size of the hole in your rim if you can, if not, then measure the dia. of the stem that's poking out of the tube where you pump the air in, go with the same size you currently have (Wemoto do all sizes on their website!)... best of luck with it mate.
thats both of them ive watched now del and have to say very tidy job m8 no danger of that ever leaking air m8 atb bud take care iain
Too right Iain, fully sealed and dead happy with the results, wish I'd done it years ago!
what happens if you need to change a broken spoke ?
Take a wire wheel in your drill and just buzz that area of sealant out of the way, no problem, then just re-seal it when you're done.
@@Moonfleet41 did you counter any problems on the long run? Is the Airtightness of the sidewalls ok and rear tire holding up ok?
That stuff looks like magic, Del! The wider tire set up is going to look pretty darn awesome! I see the UK was in the international news today re their choice of vaccines. BTW, I thought for sure you had a FRO video brewing re the shutdowns- 🤬! Stay safe - both of you.
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Hi Gary, yes looking forward to finish editing Friday's video as we mount the tyre and pop the whole on the bike for a stand back look... obviously we've had a preview, so we know what it looks like, so we hope you'll have the same reaction!! And yes, whatever anyone's thoughts on this virus, it is real, so to have the news of the vaccine is only positive, it really was shown here on our news as 'good day'... logistics for the Government to sort out, but maybe this is light at the end of the tunnel, it's been a long year. No FRO's mate on this topic, there's enough negativity in the world right now and we all need to look to the future for better days! Keep safe and well there, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 Yessir, I’m looking forward to it! And re the lockdowns... “You’re a better man than I, Gunga Din...!”
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Very satisfying to watch del 👍
You spin Me round like a Record 😂
Hello Del, did you put the same tyres back on the rims or did you change them for tubeless? Would tubeless tyres fit the rims? I don’t know.
I have just purchased a used Bonneville and sealing the rims is probably going to be the first job.
Keep up with the vids.
Regards.
They were tubeless tyres mate. Good luck with yours and have fun with it.
Squeaky wheel love it ! thats whats makes it real .
Beautiful job Del, and beautiful camera work and editing Penny!
Many thanks for your kind words, really appreciate those, I just try to capture the moment and make it really watchable, it's good to know it's noticed, it motivates us to keep going as it's a lot work, but worth it! Keep well and safe, Pennyx
Top job again del, and today I thought how good penny’s camera work was she will be leaving you soon to go work for David Attenborough filming lions 😂
ha ha, i recon you're right, she's a dab hand aye, and a driving force behind what we do does a lot of the editing and post production too.
I love when they ask: "Where did you learn that?" and I answer: "There's a guy on YT who makes projects and I'm his subscriber"
Almost in every video I find something that I'll use, not only with motorcycle, everyday skills. Thank you and keep on!
Thank you my friend, that's very kind and you're most welcome... we're glad the videos can inspire you to pick up new things and get stuff done yourself! Take care and keep safe from us both, D&Px
Del, I'm exploring this option as my inner tube keeps losing air. How long did you let the sealant dry and settle in between coats ? Any other tips you could recommend? Thanks mate!
It dried to touch in an hour or so, and you can muscle the tyres over it the next day.. Good luck with it, have fun.
Another excellent result!
excellent !!! excited to see it with the 180 tire !!!
Next video mate!
Well done again !
Is there a cure time between applications? Like...You did the spoke holes, then another layer, then another layer. Do you have to wait between? Looks amazing, my friend. Hope Penny and yourself are doing well!
Hey buddy, nope, I did it all in one go, did the spoke holes, which took about 20mins, poking them all in to squeeze any air out, then spread that in nice and level, then build up the layers in 2-3 separate applications, till it's 3mm thick... it stayed pliable, although as I said in the video, with a much warmer garage this time, it was definitely curing quicker!... 10degrees cooler, and you could have left it half the day and come back to it... but one single application gets the job done, curing takes about 48hrs... (it's still tacky to the touch after 24hrs, then feels like the surface of a tyre the next day)... and thanks for the kind words, we're both fine, working round all the covid rules here, but keeping safe... hope you're the same there and getting out on the bad ass bike before the dark months come! D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 Most definitely getting some miles in, brother. But, I can usually ride 12 months here, so... LOLOL Glad to hear you guys are well. Stay safe!
Is this a silicon or urethane based sealant ?
(P) Now that is the icing on the cake, gunna look great! 👍🏻 Early crimbo Press-ant too 😀
ha ha yes mate, a little investment thanks to our kind Patrons like you, something to help with all manner of jobs from bearing changes to fabrication.. have a great week buddy, and keep the mall safe. D&Pxx
Your skill level holds no bounds
Learning as I go mate, this is a new one for me... but without challenge there is no achievement!
Awesome Job Del and does that prevent the Spokes from coming lose?
Hi Paul, I imagine it has some kind of influence in preventing the nipples turning, but I imagine it's purely a happy by-product and as for what it's worth, I've never had to adjust a spoke in my life, perhaps I've just been lucky, but in 40yrs and well over 70 bikes, with probably half of them having spokes, it's never once been an issue... perhaps it was in the old days, but that's even the same for old bikes from the 70's, they've always been fine!
That rear wheel is gorgeous!
Fantastic job very nicely done
Del quick question. Where did you get the 17 inch wheel for this project from. I have a Thunderbird and I'm thinking of changing my wheels and doing the same as you going tubeless. As always love the whole series and picking up loads of tips. But you already knew that.....Lol. Awesome as always Brother.
Hi mate, both wheels were built by Doug Richardson at Devon Wheel Building, he's a master of the art and a humble gentleman, they're not cheap mate, but top quality kit never is!
@@Moonfleet41 Thank you sir. As always your channel has me waiting with excitement for the next episode.
Very impressive!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Brilliant
Del, I got some rusted niples... 😕
What should I do?
Answered you from your email received Gabriel!
Good job that was cool to watch
Del - fantastic job, do you have a link to the specific Tiger sealant? Also you did not mention the valve type and sealing it?
Hi Max, no link on the sealant, it's just Upol Tiger Seal and bought in Halfords, click and collect! And the tyre valve is the same as the one in the last video, it's the 8mm screw type and they're about £3 each from Wemoto... check the video Friday, there'll be a demonstration (or on the last video as already done!).
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks Del, outstanding. 👌
Hi del I have a triumph trophy 900 as you may remember I am needing a few parts including a sprag clutch can you recommend a parts dealer also keep up the great work
Many thanks
G burn
Hi Gav, i use Wemoto for general parts, and anything more focused like that i just go to the main dealer, you'll hardly ever find an independent parts store selling engine internals, maybe gasket sets, clutch plates and even shims, but they are all service parts and in general demand.. once you get to more specific internals, its really only the dealerships that will have the resources to get hold of them. Good luck with it buddy, let us know how you get on.
Brilliant thanks for the advice appreciate it and I will let you know how I get on cheers
One of my kids was watching over my shoulder and said “He’s got skills” and got me thinking... yes he does. But he’s got way more patience! More than me that’s for damned sure. Beaut work again Del. Can’t wait to see that rear end...! Errm - the bike’s rear end.
Hi Paul, thank you for that mate, nothing better than the approval of the innocence of youth... tell him I said thanks! And don't knock it mate, if you got yourself a project you enjoyed, something you'd be excited to ride at the end, and no time limit, you'd soon develop the patience, it's well worth it when you see yourself making good results! Take care and look after the family mate, all the best, D&Px
As a retired mech fitter I would like to see your skills taught in schools so we would have more practical skilled youngsters and not a nation of Computer IT “ experts” nice work Dell.
Thank you most kindly brother, I appreciate that... you are right, of course, tradespeople struggle to get apprentices for manual trades, not just in the garage but building trades and anything constructive, it seems they all want to be entrepreneurs and do a degree in Events Management, time to get the skills back... as Jesse James said 'with these two hands I can change the world'.
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Good job Del❤️
G/day mate, just wanted know how do you mount the valve stem.
Easy buddy, just take an 8mm drill bit and twist it through by hand where the rim hole is... shown in the last video and again in the next one!
Class , well worth the effort and hard work.
Will you be able to true up the wheels in the future if necessary?
Never had to Frank, on any spoke wheel I've owned, but for what it's worth, 3mm of rubber sealant doesn't prevent the spoke nipple from running with a spanner, and if in some way it breaks the seal, just a smear of sealant over the top of the split would re-seal it straight away.
That was so educational delboy
Another nice project show 😎
Does the degreaser damage paintwork if day I was to use it to clean an engine ?
No, the degreaser doesn't damage paint, but like any solvent, don't leave it on there long term, get it on there to get the grease off then wash it off with some water, as you would any solvent.
Very nice! Can't wait to see that fat 180😎
I’ve watched both of your videos on this and I have to say it’s making me want to try it on my Dyna!
Yep well done mate..they will look nice with their new rubber on em 👍
They will indeed mate, it's gonna make the bike look chunky, specially from the rear... next video on Friday!
@@Moonfleet41 ill have my cuppa tea n chocolate biscuits ready 😁
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What a detailing and brilliant process!!!
Your workmanship and thoroughness are outstanding! From prep and set-up to removal of the tape, everything was well thought out and done with skill. I'm now interested in hearing if you noticed any change in steering quickness or stability due to removal of the inner tubes' rotational mass.
Thank you for those kind words sir, it's a very enjoyable process and one I'll enjoy doing again. As for the feel of the lighter wheels, i guess i'll find out once i get it on the road, of course the sealant was about 1lb in weight between the two wheels, but not as much as the tubes and spoke bands would have weighed... they will be lighter, but not by much. have a great week and take care.. Del.
Great Video 👏👌🏻🤘
Thanks for watching!
Cool
I love it Del .. my wife got Holby City and now, Ive got Del Boys Garage to watch👍🏻.. can you do it every Tuesday...for about 45min if pos..👍🏻😂
Check on the every Tuesday, but not so sure about the 45mins, will do me best!
That’s ok .. I just enjoy watching the other ones again 👍🏻
Nice job del. cant wait to see that big back tyre..
Precise work! The air can't get through this! The end result will be wonderful!
Fingers crossed Istan, this all new to me too!
Yer gonna want to keep it when you’ve finished it Del, very interested to see what the colour of the new paintwork is gonna be😃👍
I am indeed mate, am loving it more every step, finding it hard to sell the Harley and happy to keep it whilst there's not much selling at the moment, and this may well go the same way!
Excellent! Now I feel confident to do it on my bike! How long between the coats?
No coats mate, i did it in one go, fill spoke holes first, poke it in to pop out the bubbles, spread that flat,, then three layers spread all round.. takes about an hour, and stays pliable throughout, cures in 48 hours..!
A great process Del. I’m sure others will refer to it for quite some time!
Thanks buddy, hope so, myself I'll be certainly doing it again, it's a great option and really simple! 👍
I don't suppose I will ever do this, however it's great to see it being done by somebody with skill. They must be transferable skills, so lets nominate Del for the next series of Bake Off 🤣 👍
Ha ha Awesome, that would be a scream aye, i can make Tea, a Spam sandwich, and i like Kendal Mint Cake..(does that count)!
Grand job again del One word of caution only In future be careful how you draw your hand across spoke nipple heads as some times they can incorrectly formed leaving razor sharp barbs sticking up or if they are tightened by a blade driver then again they can be left with razor sharp edges ( nasty cut fingers )
Watching from home today as I was in a serious car smash yesterday Other driver to blame on wrong side of road doing more than limit My car is totalled and I did manage to put my head thru the windscreen unfortunately but other than cut on forehead and sore all over I'm fine
More time to watch del boys vids for a few days 👍👍
hi Gerald.. Bloody Hell mate, that sounds frightening, and it's good to hear you're ok, How much worse could that have turned out mate... looks like your guardian angel was flying with you yesterday.. I hope nobody else was hurt, i hear that December is referred to as the silly season for this. God speed for a full and complete recovery mate, and hope the insurers put you back where you should be with a replacement car.. Drop us a line and let us know how you're getting on mate, and Penny says, 'Get Well Soon".. Have a better week and keep safe aye. Del.
@@Moonfleet41 Not being indestructible del but I'm 6.4 19 stone ex rugby player To be honest I kind of peeled the wrecked Avensis off and got out absolutely raging Trust me guys im fine just sore Motor is mangled though absolutely trashed
Been sin died from riding bike for a few days because of concussion which is a total bummer 😒😒
@@geraldgallagher825 ha ha, that made me smile mate, "peeling a mangled Avensis off your shoulders"... Like an Iron Brew advert.! Good on you mucker, give 'em hell.! (and remind me not to spill your pint.!)
@@Moonfleet41 will do feeling like the wreck of the titanic now More sore than alive at present lol
Brilliant video again carnt wait for the tyre video 👏 👌 👍 😀
Next up buddy, Friday evening... just gotta get some Weetabix and a Sanatogen to help me muscle the tyre on!!
Supurb again 👍
Needs more cake. Also, considering the wheel's rippums at high speed, I'm slightly bemused by the lack of a fabric reinforcing band embedded within the last 'layer' as a belt, thereby thwarting Captain Centrifuge's far flung attempts at delaminating all your hard work with a rather jolly 'vertical' tank-slapper.
Off the top of my head, with that sized wheel, I don't recommend any more than 287mph (approx : ) x
Alooouuuu, parabéns pelo cuidado, e o serviço limpo e preventivo. Abrcssss
That Sharpie trick takes a steady hand... I'm sure my lines would have wobbled all over...
Ha ha.. it does take a bit of practice..!
Nice one again Del 👌 there's a wheel builder near me, im thinking about the possibility of having spoked wheels made for my M1800 as I've never seen it done & in doing so i could experiment with new tyre sizes, hmmm big is best I'm already 160 front & 280 rear. Hmmmmm ideas ideas. Keep em coming lad.
It seldom get that cold where I live.
Never seen this done before, great to watch and learn. Really loving this build. 👍
Thank you buddy, im gad you're enjoying it.
Sweet nice job sir hope you 2 are staying safe keep up the good work aye
Sure are buddy, good to hear from you, hope you're all keeping safe and well too.
The level of patience required in this video can only be described as”saintly”, nice job as usual, thanks 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you very much Pete, Patience only ever brought me good things, so i embrace it for all it's worth, it's a golden Goose.! !
Nice job Del - almost seems a shame that no one will get to see your superbly neat handiwork until the next tyre change! Thanks as always for sharing!
Never thought of it that way Mike, you've got a point, but at least I know it's there! Thanks for watching and your support!
Looks too nice to put a tyre on.