@@Sasgewo Yeah fr. Atleast Iran is in Asia which can be ignored until late game but its actually unacceptable when a country in the center for Europe becomes this op.
i was once a switzerland player before this update and spammed forts everywhere i also made artillery and got aa and had air superiority with ONE plane (a fighter) and also switzerland was untouched for the ENTIRE TIME
I feel like a good counter/balance for this is to make different levels of fortification, like, Lightly Fortified, Fortified, and Heavily Fortified. Heavily Fortified would have the same level of defense buff as forts now, I'd believe this is a good idea cuz you can still use forts but it would simply be much less effective, and also to increase upkeep.
@@BlazingFlame69 makes sense but that was just bring an new toxic meta artillery spam which is already a thing but this will make it 2x worse and will cause way more artillery vs artillery wars
bro i was playing as tajikistan to take what russia and china needs to annoy them and i tried the specialization doctrine with max miliutary spending and good leaders, my infantry were starting at 275% XP WOW THEY WERE VETERANS WITHOUT EVEN FIGHTING
Tbh I can relate at this video when I played as Switzerland build fort on every city made artillery tanks and when UK tired to invade me with 7.5m it all died in just a second giving UK a war exhustoin💀
Now it’s impossible to invade player with forts on all cities and resistance tech in the late game unless u spam bombers which are going to destroy forts but scorch cities so its going to take even more attrition to conquer the nation
Not really, if you have 400 tanks max spending, maneuver warfare branch, basic chief of general and general along with basic panzer leader you can easily take any city. Without forts and resistance tech I believe that set up can take London
They should make forts like roads, now now i know some people might do funny shit with it, but it would be better since irl its more practical on making defense lines instead of the defense being in a single city. And make it so you can upgrade the defense of the defense line. Why lines? So i can make back up lines incase of a breakthrough over the border defense lines
People mostly leave the game because A) didn’t get the country they wanted B) certain country that they hoped to be an AI is a player C) someone is hogging all the trades
I built forts in all of my cities as yugoslavia in 2089, once I took over europe with a 300+ naval unit navy. And the forts saved me from british, japanese, russian and arabic invasions. It was the whole server vs me, forts were already powerful
Wait, I realized, if you form Yugoslavia and conquer like huge amounts of land with big population and rough terrain the modifier of Yugoslavia increases Resistance so it would BE WAY BROKEN
in my opinion theres another way to counter forts. ballistic missiles. Not nuclear missiles that require oodles and boodles of research, but kinda like the V1 rocket or something of that variety. This would have the effect of heavily damaging troops, and the city that they inhabit leaving the defender with the choice to stand and die, or run and lose the city
I think the fix to the fort thing is just like triple the price or something to not make it viable early on and not beating any offensive superpower a complete walk in the park.
America can easily spam forts now, i tested in a private server and it only costs like 33m to upkeep which is nothing for america. Stupidly broken + specialization buff is annoying asf
It should increase like the Spendings, depending on your tax income, the more expensive the upkeep is. Sure it doesn't make any logical sense but yk, it will somewhat balance it like invading the amazons in Brazil.
I kind of realised this after sending 200k maxed out tanks (WITH MAXED MANEUVER WARFARE) into Japan and them getting completely wiped, granted, i split them up a lot which made it easier but still, i had 3.2k divisions getting deleted one by one, thankfully that whole war was just a joke before i left so i didn't really care.)
Not too sure how that lost, did you have panzer leader, chief of staff, general, ideology buffs, military spending, tech and an offensive doctrine? Also did Japan have support like ships artillery and planes
when are they going to fix attrition, in no world does a max trained army die from just marching or capturing an undefended city, even in deserts and tundras. It makes sense for mountains and jungles but otherwise it’s just annoying
Just deal with it, attrition takes in count for supply too so if your marching 1,000,000 soldiers into some Siberian village, of course loads of people would die. You can always use Transport Planes.
For someone who always choose static lines doctrine and used to building forts everywhere and prefers to stay neutral always. I see this as a nice upside to my way of becoming like Rogal Dorn.
As a mass attack player the only thing I want is that they remove the training time nerf like what the hell man it takes a decade to make my troops decent
One year to make a fort is kinda crazy.. I suggest that the speed be based off the population of the city, Example a city with 1k population could take a week or two to build while a city with a million could take months
Idk where do drop this but using generals is not only kinda like gambling but when you strike big you REALLY strike BIG. I had a naval officer who had specialization in battleships meaning he gave them a 25% attack buff. When I leveled him up to level 2 I was able to get the same speicalization making it 50%!!! THATS RIGHT 50%! I got 4 elite battleships and on one could kill them thanks to that buff. Not to mention I went down the doctrian that gave the even MORE buffs. Same then goes for my arty, my arty gen gave my arty 34% of a buff! Combined with static defense giving some extra bonuses I can easly send any army on my border to the shadow realm in a INSTANT, truely some crazy stuff!
as a guy who likes defending (i like playing swiss, mexico, poland and mongolia) i love this update, making forts as swiss was a PAIN. you had to select 3 cities at a time out of the cities that are 2 meters apart
Fort cost should scale with the size of the country. For example, forts on all cities for like a kyrgyzstan player would cost 30000 but the same amount of cities for a usa player would be like 500 million. I like the idea of keeping forts on all cities but if you made it expensive it would be hard for small countries to defend against giants
Skip to second to last paragraph if you don't want to hear me rambling. I'm not kidding when I say this. I was North American Union and I took over Africa, Central America, and North America, and I had the "Reinvigorate American Imperialism" buff ready (Haven't used it yet, I had all the prerequires though, I was just saving it to when I felt like I needed it) and I was number one globally. I also was allied with the Qing Dynasty which was the 2nd highest country in the server and we decided to team up against the third country that had a player (Franco-British Empire). Now keep in mind I had my tanks and infantry maxed out as well as the best policies and had most of my political research branch done. The Franco Empire was mostly an economic power and didn't do any real war except for helping me and the Qing Dynasty kill Russia (yes, we decided to betray him). The Qing Dynasty was also on par with me but didn't have the air and naval power I did. I'll keep a 2 hour war somewhat short. I tried to attack his African cities but that hombre put forts on ALL OF HIS CITIES IN THE WORLD and put arty and AA on them so I literally could not get any cities. I only managed to capture like 4 cities that didn't have any AA/arty and I bombed the fort into oblivion so the cities didn't have the fort anymore, and even that killed a ton of my troops. And he also kept killing my aircraft since my airpower would bomb his cities but refill in Africa. It was basically a stalemate for an hour (Qing Dynasty was also having the same problem but just in the far east) I nuked his country 12 times but that did nothing so eventually I went straight for his capital. The Franco Empire's capital was near a sea so I decided to send in 21,000 tanks there (his capital was like the only city not fortified) and I was able to find a route to flank into his capital without it being guarded by AA or arty. I do that and I hold his capital for a bit but that imbecile had forts all around his city and just started placing arty on those cities and it killed all of my tanks real quick and then took his city back. Also he became number one doing F*cking nothing whilst me and the Qing killed our economies almost into debt because we couldn't push into his country because all of his cities (yes, every single one at this point) had a fort on them. Moral of the story? Unlimited fort cap f*cks up waging wars on the offensive side if they spam them (I think a cap of like 20 - 40 forts is fair). Invading a country that is larger becomes essentially impossible if they spam forts on all of their cities and pairs it with arty and AA and the increased City Resistance buffs. The reason why I decided 20-40 forts max is because it makes it so that small countries can stand a better chance if they utilize forts but also doesn't make larger countries impossible to conquer. How do I think we can solve this, put a cap back on forts but around 20-40 forts max for all of your cities, make the forts more expensive, make forts take longer to build. I don't mind if everything but the forts stay the same, just change the stupid fort stuff and nerf the forts. Thanks for hearing me ramble, have a good day.
they should make specialization for specific biomes be 2x attack for that biome instead of defense for that biome, that way it makes specialization kinda an attacking doctrine.
i am a NOOB in rise of nations and was playing cameroon and I fortified my capital and had like 160k troops stacked on it 400 tanks and that was it and this nigeria player attacked with 200k troops and they instantly died (my cap was the only city I had last, also they were all untrained lol)
@@EvilRecaps Yea, if you can't counter it. You'd need to get better at micromanagement for both this strat and its counter to be effective. Sure, forts are too op, I agree, but half the time i dont got the shit to make said forts, either.
@@EvilRecaps Artillery spam is inefficient as heck. Defeated India China and Russia as Pakistan alone due to their spam crippling them. Offensives are not impossible against this doctrine. I've captured north Afghanistan (Northern Alliance territory, and then some) against a good player as Tajikistan at the start of the game without industry. Their defensives were "impenetrable" to others. Again, micromanagement.
@ they probably hadn’t had enough time to prepare and second im not saying in impossible im saying its so incredibly difficult and annoying to beat overall nerfing it to shit is so much better
I will now continue to use static lines as my doctrine and build only 1 fort so that when im playing north macedonia i dont litterly become unkillable because otherwise it would just become unfair
can we nerf artillary it kills navey and prolly airforce not to mention its just op also nerf anti air, whats the point of fighters if u have anti air?
In my opinion also resistance is ruining the matches. In late games when everybody has maxxed the resistance techs wars are very static and totally depend on exhaustion and stability not on conquering.
they should buff massed attack by giving mp ALOT more and decrease the starting expirience a bit more and Idk abt 1mil a fort maintaince more like 1.5x the city population
Remember when the meta was literally just spamming tanks? Didn’t see any complaints there even tho it was broken for all the time that you couldn’t do anything except spam tanks back Buffs forts and loses mind.
forts are quite literally unkillable and are incredibly cheap for what they offer and also tank spam wasnt as bad compared to this because there was atleast fighting but this meta is just staring at eachother with artillery in forts until the guy messes up
i wouldnt add such a long building time for forts. maybe. diffrent tiers. like in hoi4. make it that there are 5 tiers of forts where the last one is als strong als the standard rn.
so you know its crazy adout defnese like that so if you use the neutral act is get many more harder to ivande the neutral act is op than research when other player ivande country so build fort and use neutral act and static lines that make you so insane defnese if you play small country or smth (this comments close in 5 weeks)
I mean, it's not like the few extra seconds do much unless you are getting spammed with Manpower from other nations and can repeatedly build more infantry
Bro what now its just impossible to invade a nation that just sits there this just reinforces the idea of capital camping a very boring and frustrating thing to fight
@@HeydenHarvey skill issue capital camping is a literal skill issue you are so terrible at the game you cant even go on the offensive so you must hide in your capital
I joined a ww1 event as Bulgaria and maxed Specialization and made everything a fort. Result? The Central Powers W O N. Specialization also is a guaranteed South East Asia unification. WHAT THE HYPERANT DO?More like HIGHANT-
I used to main Specialization until I saw the absolute beautiful image of Static Lines, the damage against tanks was so good for me as I hate using tanks early game.
The defending player should have the advantage regardless. Otherwise, there is no point in playing a game where you are easily steamrolled by braindead players who only know how to spam. This update encourages careful planning when attacking, as it should be the case from the start.
@@Merejiah Not if you have a balanced army. This guy in the video is not taking into account a superior navy or airforce. If you invest in a good airforce early game it makes forts useless. It's still really easy to get around them you just have to think a little more instead of just spamming inf or tanks.
Amandus if you are reading this just know that you can stack on top of specialization all of the infantry tech, making the manoeuvre warfare useless since anti tank exists
Yeah but early game tanks are still meta like I showed in the video of 800 steel division tanks beating entrenched researched infantry. You have way more money than you have manpower
@@DixifiateThis just isn’t realistic though, no one I’ve seen has actually done this in public since many don’t stay for the long run, not to mention people simply don’t have the know how
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Swiss mains are like Dark souls bosses now bruh
real a switz made tons of artillery and even with a few aircraft crarriers are couldn't destrow or weak them
@@Sasgewo Yeah fr. Atleast Iran is in Asia which can be ignored until late game but its actually unacceptable when a country in the center for Europe becomes this op.
@@BlazingFlame69 italy is the mostly the only one to invade it
i was once a switzerland player before this update and spammed forts everywhere
i also made artillery and got aa and had air superiority with ONE plane (a fighter)
and also switzerland was untouched for the ENTIRE TIME
And then when a Swiss player beats you there going to be a ass and say skill issue and down right ruin the experience of the game
As a small country player, I see this as an absolute win.
pov: you are liechstein vs switzerland with mountain specialization...
Yeah this very good against spammers
@@themuchachos4168yeah and very good for campers to use
I feel like a good counter/balance for this is to make different levels of fortification, like, Lightly Fortified, Fortified, and Heavily Fortified. Heavily Fortified would have the same level of defense buff as forts now, I'd believe this is a good idea cuz you can still use forts but it would simply be much less effective, and also to increase upkeep.
that is a bad idea trust me
@@BlazingFlame69 ok then how do nerf forts then?
@@EvilRecaps Undo all changes done to the forts AND make arty destroy them
@@BlazingFlame69 makes sense but that was just bring an new toxic meta artillery spam which is already a thing but this will make it 2x worse and will cause way more artillery vs artillery wars
Tfw forts in every city WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?
That French strategy going to be even stronger
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee
this is my best dream ever to spam forts rather than 3 cities every time '.'
@@greenedleaf2481Me too
I do that in every server I play in now
bro i was playing as tajikistan to take what russia and china needs to annoy them and i tried the specialization doctrine with max miliutary spending and good leaders, my infantry were starting at 275% XP WOW THEY WERE VETERANS WITHOUT EVEN FIGHTING
Tbh I can relate at this video when I played as Switzerland build fort on every city made artillery tanks and when UK tired to invade me with 7.5m it all died in just a second giving UK a war exhustoin💀
You were in a faction
@@erickramirez6554 naw mate I'd win it's a 1v1 broskey 💀
@@AntagonistBacon911 I was Denmark
Now it’s impossible to invade player with forts on all cities and resistance tech in the late game unless u spam bombers which are going to destroy forts but scorch cities so its going to take even more attrition to conquer the nation
Not really, if you have 400 tanks max spending, maneuver warfare branch, basic chief of general and general along with basic panzer leader you can easily take any city. Without forts and resistance tech I believe that set up can take London
@@AntiBalloonthe anti-tank in question:
@@theapple3160 I mean then just get more to kill the troops too or have back up
They should make forts like roads, now now i know some people might do funny shit with it, but it would be better since irl its more practical on making defense lines instead of the defense being in a single city. And make it so you can upgrade the defense of the defense line. Why lines? So i can make back up lines incase of a breakthrough over the border defense lines
Suggest this
When offense update.
And of course hyperant makes the most balanced updates ever in a very balanced game.
i think hyperant is buffing defense, because people leave the game to early
People mostly leave the game because
A) didn’t get the country they wanted
B) certain country that they hoped to be an AI is a player
C) someone is hogging all the trades
@@ceilingfan9659 and also because of they cant win a war on the late game due to how overpowered defense is.
@@miguelpaulo3125 I’m mostly just covering early game reasons for leaving
To be honest, forts should be limited to 5-8 forts per selection, 3 felt too little and too tedious to select but any amount is just too far
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I built forts in all of my cities as yugoslavia in 2089, once I took over europe with a 300+ naval unit navy. And the forts saved me from british, japanese, russian and arabic invasions. It was the whole server vs me, forts were already powerful
dam 2089
Wait, I realized, if you form Yugoslavia and conquer like huge amounts of land with big population and rough terrain the modifier of Yugoslavia increases Resistance so it would BE WAY BROKEN
Me omw to main Iran now:
I DIDN'T KNOW
I was an iran main before, true... some good name
Im a Serbia main 😂
Bro im hungary main 💀
in my opinion theres another way to counter forts. ballistic missiles. Not nuclear missiles that require oodles and boodles of research, but kinda like the V1 rocket or something of that variety. This would have the effect of heavily damaging troops, and the city that they inhabit leaving the defender with the choice to stand and die, or run and lose the city
bro massed attack needs a buff so bad, its literally the worst doctorine in the game :(
Either that or Manoeuvre warfare and Static lines need a nerf
@@SebastianStrss no they are already good, but massed attack is even worse than having no doctorine
Fr they did massed attack so dirty
@@joe_tango wait did they nerf it in the upgrade?
@@DarkSailor5 i use massed attack all the time its op if you need mp
I think the fix to the fort thing is just like triple the price or something to not make it viable early on and not beating any offensive superpower a complete walk in the park.
Someone played as canada, invaded norway sweden and poland then fought the USA and spammed forts everywhere. Completely broken
Amandus not taking a year to upload?what is this madness?!
omg is the game alive again been a long time and now am back and i am seeing ton of successful ron youtubers
keep it up👍👍👍👍👍👍
America can easily spam forts now, i tested in a private server and it only costs like 33m to upkeep which is nothing for america. Stupidly broken + specialization buff is annoying asf
It should increase like the Spendings, depending on your tax income, the more expensive the upkeep is. Sure it doesn't make any logical sense but yk, it will somewhat balance it like invading the amazons in Brazil.
@@SebastianStrss its because of population
I kind of realised this after sending 200k maxed out tanks (WITH MAXED MANEUVER WARFARE) into Japan and them getting completely wiped, granted, i split them up a lot which made it easier but still, i had 3.2k divisions getting deleted one by one, thankfully that whole war was just a joke before i left so i didn't really care.)
200k tanks? Is that a late game server
@@L0ngb0wCaravel Yeah i had been playing for like 20 years, huge Nepoleonic Empire.
Not too sure how that lost, did you have panzer leader, chief of staff, general, ideology buffs, military spending, tech and an offensive doctrine? Also did Japan have support like ships artillery and planes
Yes my OP tanks carried me through the game.@@AntiBalloon
Artillery should definitely be able to destroy fortifications.
when are they going to fix attrition, in no world does a max trained army die from just marching or capturing an undefended city, even in deserts and tundras. It makes sense for mountains and jungles but otherwise it’s just annoying
Just deal with it, attrition takes in count for supply too so if your marching 1,000,000 soldiers into some Siberian village, of course loads of people would die.
You can always use Transport Planes.
@@SebastianStrss fair point
@@ApplebobDaGreat Lol okay, I find it annoying too and all but ig just dont go for tundras in large amounts
For someone who always choose static lines doctrine and used to building forts everywhere and prefers to stay neutral always. I see this as a nice upside to my way of becoming like Rogal Dorn.
It's a good day when Amandus finally posts
As a mass attack player the only thing I want is that they remove the training time nerf like what the hell man it takes a decade to make my troops decent
i finally dont have to pick 3 cities for every fort les go breh!!
One year to make a fort is kinda crazy.. I suggest that the speed be based off the population of the city, Example a city with 1k population could take a week or two to build while a city with a million could take months
a city with a higher population would build a fortress faster not slower..
@@xijinping880a larger city would have more complications with fortifying it and would take a larger land area
Idk where do drop this but using generals is not only kinda like gambling but when you strike big you REALLY strike BIG. I had a naval officer who had specialization in battleships meaning he gave them a 25% attack buff. When I leveled him up to level 2 I was able to get the same speicalization making it 50%!!! THATS RIGHT 50%! I got 4 elite battleships and on one could kill them thanks to that buff. Not to mention I went down the doctrian that gave the even MORE buffs. Same then goes for my arty, my arty gen gave my arty 34% of a buff! Combined with static defense giving some extra bonuses I can easly send any army on my border to the shadow realm in a INSTANT, truely some crazy stuff!
as a guy who likes defending (i like playing swiss, mexico, poland and mongolia) i love this update, making forts as swiss was a PAIN. you had to select 3 cities at a time out of the cities that are 2 meters apart
You like defending, but this update practically nerfed static lines?
@@Hg-vl6fk yes, it did, but there is specialization, and static lines is still pretty op
Today, Iran has officially became my favorite nation in RON.
Fort cost should scale with the size of the country. For example, forts on all cities for like a kyrgyzstan player would cost 30000 but the same amount of cities for a usa player would be like 500 million. I like the idea of keeping forts on all cities but if you made it expensive it would be hard for small countries to defend against giants
Skip to second to last paragraph if you don't want to hear me rambling.
I'm not kidding when I say this. I was North American Union and I took over Africa, Central America, and North America, and I had the "Reinvigorate American Imperialism" buff ready (Haven't used it yet, I had all the prerequires though, I was just saving it to when I felt like I needed it) and I was number one globally. I also was allied with the Qing Dynasty which was the 2nd highest country in the server and we decided to team up against the third country that had a player (Franco-British Empire).
Now keep in mind I had my tanks and infantry maxed out as well as the best policies and had most of my political research branch done. The Franco Empire was mostly an economic power and didn't do any real war except for helping me and the Qing Dynasty kill Russia (yes, we decided to betray him). The Qing Dynasty was also on par with me but didn't have the air and naval power I did.
I'll keep a 2 hour war somewhat short. I tried to attack his African cities but that hombre put forts on ALL OF HIS CITIES IN THE WORLD and put arty and AA on them so I literally could not get any cities. I only managed to capture like 4 cities that didn't have any AA/arty and I bombed the fort into oblivion so the cities didn't have the fort anymore, and even that killed a ton of my troops. And he also kept killing my aircraft since my airpower would bomb his cities but refill in Africa. It was basically a stalemate for an hour (Qing Dynasty was also having the same problem but just in the far east) I nuked his country 12 times but that did nothing so eventually I went straight for his capital.
The Franco Empire's capital was near a sea so I decided to send in 21,000 tanks there (his capital was like the only city not fortified) and I was able to find a route to flank into his capital without it being guarded by AA or arty. I do that and I hold his capital for a bit but that imbecile had forts all around his city and just started placing arty on those cities and it killed all of my tanks real quick and then took his city back. Also he became number one doing F*cking nothing whilst me and the Qing killed our economies almost into debt because we couldn't push into his country because all of his cities (yes, every single one at this point) had a fort on them.
Moral of the story? Unlimited fort cap f*cks up waging wars on the offensive side if they spam them (I think a cap of like 20 - 40 forts is fair). Invading a country that is larger becomes essentially impossible if they spam forts on all of their cities and pairs it with arty and AA and the increased City Resistance buffs. The reason why I decided 20-40 forts max is because it makes it so that small countries can stand a better chance if they utilize forts but also doesn't make larger countries impossible to conquer.
How do I think we can solve this, put a cap back on forts but around 20-40 forts max for all of your cities, make the forts more expensive, make forts take longer to build. I don't mind if everything but the forts stay the same, just change the stupid fort stuff and nerf the forts.
Thanks for hearing me ramble, have a good day.
I once went in a war with 3 allies against Sokoto caliphate, and the war was a pain because most of his cities were fortified.
they should make specialization for specific biomes be 2x attack for that biome instead of defense for that biome, that way it makes specialization kinda an attacking doctrine.
i am a NOOB in rise of nations and was playing cameroon and I fortified my capital and had like 160k troops stacked on it 400 tanks and that was it and this nigeria player attacked with 200k troops and they instantly died (my cap was the only city I had last, also they were all untrained lol)
God Bless Hyperant
They should add trains and train lines and u have to make like lines or like train tracks from harbors to factory’s it would be nice
I've always been a spec user so this is fantastic lol
Overpowered loo the defense is impossible to beat now
as an afghanistan player who never expands on offense, DO NOT SPILL OUR SECRET!
wdym spill your secret everyone knows about this its the most braindead strat in the game
@@EvilRecaps Yea, if you can't counter it. You'd need to get better at micromanagement for both this strat and its counter to be effective. Sure, forts are too op, I agree, but half the time i dont got the shit to make said forts, either.
@@PZ-VH steel is incredibly easy to get also if artillery spam just destroys everything
@@EvilRecaps Artillery spam is inefficient as heck. Defeated India China and Russia as Pakistan alone due to their spam crippling them. Offensives are not impossible against this doctrine. I've captured north Afghanistan (Northern Alliance territory, and then some) against a good player as Tajikistan at the start of the game without industry. Their defensives were "impenetrable" to others. Again, micromanagement.
@ they probably hadn’t had enough time to prepare and second im not saying in impossible im saying its so incredibly difficult and annoying to beat overall nerfing it to shit is so much better
Always gonna be a good day when Amandus uploads
You came back, and i came
i remember my infantry spawning with 250+ experience with the specialization doctrine lol
we're back to 2019 where people could spam forts but if they did so they would be in deficit because they were crazy expensive to maintain.
hyperant trying not to make his game a noskillfest: impossible
BRUUUUUUUUUH WHAT OMG I didnt know this update happend this is insane a superpower can not be defeted now
Wait I’m confused. Which doctrine should I use? Static Lines or Specialization?
I will now continue to use static lines as my doctrine and build only 1 fort so that when im playing north macedonia i dont litterly become unkillable because otherwise it would just become unfair
This as Iran or Norway with forts are craxy
time to main the DRC now💀💀
imagine norway, iran, switzerland and afghanistan players happiness
Switzerland is probably the new meta country now
How do you select cities like that: 2:07 ?
7:15 Damn bro. relax
btw forts should be more expensive the higher troop capacity it has ( 10 million per 10k soldiers it can hold) in my opinion
can we nerf artillary it kills navey and prolly airforce not to mention its just op also nerf anti air, whats the point of fighters if u have anti air?
i feel like they should do something similar to hoi4 and make forts have levels, the higher level the longer to build
Or there could be a different level of forts with each stats. The higher the level the fort is the higher the cost and time to build will be.
In my opinion also resistance is ruining the matches.
In late games when everybody has maxxed the resistance techs wars are very static and totally depend on exhaustion and stability not on conquering.
they should buff massed attack by giving mp ALOT more and decrease the starting expirience a bit more and Idk abt 1mil a fort maintaince more like 1.5x the city population
massed is already balanced fairly well
@@TK-ye1uq no it isnt its the worst one by far trash training time and you arent getting any buffs at all so you will lost every battle
@@EvilRecaps yeah good luck dealing with 40m skull deathstacks late game
@@TK-ye1uq good luck getting deathstacks while ur men are paper
@@Limppu_Playz blobbing:
I legit thought I had found a glitch in the Matrix when I saw I could unlock the first option of doctrines for free 😭
I never knew this. I kept using the three forts a time like a idiot ;-:
This could solve the fact that 97% of all RON servers die before the year 2022
Kid named actually making a strategy instead spaming tanks, turning on auto capture, and walking away from your pc.
Remember when the meta was literally just spamming tanks? Didn’t see any complaints there even tho it was broken for all the time that you couldn’t do anything except spam tanks back
Buffs forts and loses mind.
forts are quite literally unkillable and are incredibly cheap for what they offer and also tank spam wasnt as bad compared to this because there was atleast fighting but this meta is just staring at eachother with artillery in forts until the guy messes up
give it a tiered system instead of going hyper expensive tier one is the current expenses but doesnt do much like 10 percent buff etc etc
i wouldnt add such a long building time for forts. maybe. diffrent tiers. like in hoi4. make it that there are 5 tiers of forts where the last one is als strong als the standard rn.
Who turned on The Great War Redux? Wait, our tanks look cool now.
mountain countries are now absolute gods
mountain specialization?
Forts should have levels like in hoi4.
finally l, being monaco now means I don't get invaded by france every bloody time
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nah forever warm pillows thats too far😭
so you know its crazy adout defnese like that so if you use the neutral act is get many more harder to ivande the neutral act is op than research when other player ivande country so build fort and use neutral act and static lines that make you so insane defnese if you play small country or smth (this comments close in 5 weeks)
Not now babe, Amandus just uploaded
why didnt you speak about how it takes ages to spawn and reinforce troops on specialized
I mean, it's not like the few extra seconds do much unless you are getting spammed with Manpower from other nations and can repeatedly build more infantry
I see making forts very op is necessary, since when you star in a random match and then you'll see the strongest player in the game attacks you
Bro what now its just impossible to invade a nation that just sits there this just reinforces the idea of capital camping a very boring and frustrating thing to fight
@@BidnerBrown skill issue it just costs alot
@@HeydenHarvey skill issue capital camping is a literal skill issue you are so terrible at the game you cant even go on the offensive so you must hide in your capital
@@BidnerBrown its easy to counter you just suck
China players punching the air when kazakshtan makes forts everywhere and fends them off
Best update In a long time honestly.
FORTnite players when they discover RoN:
I joined a ww1 event as Bulgaria and maxed Specialization and made everything a fort. Result? The Central Powers W O N. Specialization also is a guaranteed South East Asia unification. WHAT THE HYPERANT DO?More like HIGHANT-
To be honest, going spec on an event is still not a good idea.
I used to main Specialization until I saw the absolute beautiful image of Static Lines, the damage against tanks was so good for me as I hate using tanks early game.
So is specialisation the best or Manoeuvre warfare or still static lines
@israelimapping i asked which one is best not if static lines is the best
@israelimapping i dont want to argue but thats 1/3 of the question not the whole one
@israelimapping but ye srry u could say it that way
The defending player should have the advantage regardless. Otherwise, there is no point in playing a game where you are easily steamrolled by braindead players who only know how to spam. This update encourages careful planning when attacking, as it should be the case from the start.
The problem is that this was too extreme. Attacking a player who uses these mechanics is now nearly impossible in late or sometimes mid game.
@@Merejiah Not if you have a balanced army. This guy in the video is not taking into account a superior navy or airforce. If you invest in a good airforce early game it makes forts useless. It's still really easy to get around them you just have to think a little more instead of just spamming inf or tanks.
@@chad2522anti air?
@@someone-um4ip Then get better support tech. Range on your artillery.
@@chad2522 arti can damage anti air?
as a large country player i see this as an absolute loss :c
Hey amandus can you do a very fast xp tutorial?
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i like troop throwing and long wars anyways
I also like defending and I can see this update is W for me (for me)
so it tank or infantry better now
„Minor updates”💀
Amandus if you are reading this just know that you can stack on top of specialization all of the infantry tech, making the manoeuvre warfare useless since anti tank exists
Yeah but early game tanks are still meta like I showed in the video of 800 steel division tanks beating entrenched researched infantry. You have way more money than you have manpower
@@Amandos Yes but now with leaders you can rush quantum in just 2023 or even 2022 and get infantry tech along with specialization
@@DixifiateThis just isn’t realistic though, no one I’ve seen has actually done this in public since many don’t stay for the long run, not to mention people simply don’t have the know how
BRO CALLED THAT A MINOR UPDATE????
Static is still the best in europe, unless you have a huge eco for mauever
imagine invading iran with full forts :
Me declaring on russia as iran then waiting for russia to beg me for peace:
"Daddy USA and Daddy Russia" 💀💀💀
Make a bomber troop like hand grenades and such to counter forts
No I like the update facing invasions is annoying
I think fort and fortifications are not the same
They should make forts need steel to build them
If yall havent realized a certain north korean player doing this 💀💀💀💀 .....this is what he's been doing....😊
dang static lines trash now?