Great video TJ, Cool smaller radio, now i would loved something like that when i had my XK 120 heli cause hated the factory radio. But Out of all the brands why wouldn't they put Spektrum in it.... that is 90% what people fly. I know at my field its more popular then anything else.
Probably cause it is a budget radio and they would have had to put better multi module on it the would make the price point not what they wanted it to be.
I hope potenciometers are better than in BetaFPV RadioLite2. Mine in RL2 started to "shake" positions after a week :/ I found some solution to unassemble them and bend metal piece that tracks resistive layer but in parraler started to look for better radio. Seems like Tx12 is good candidate
Seeing FlySky under Type in Multi Mode is a bit confusing when this radio doesn't support FlySky (3:18 in video), being as how it only has a CC2005 chip rather than something like a JP4-in-1. Man I want one of these. :)
I'll need to fly it before recommending it to people. For less than half the price of its bigger brother, win.. By the way, one of those thumbs up is from me...👍🏻🍻👊🏻
All radios are really 1 channel (well, unless it's like Crossfire with telemetry back). The "channels" aren't channels, but just number of square waves sent per packet. 16 variable width square waves sent per package, they call it 16 channel. same as an 8 channel, but packet length is twice as long, at half the number of packets per second. Receiver reads the square wave time length, assigned it to a variable, thranslates that to a range --1000 to +1000 (or whatever), and then passes that on to flight controller to be used to control whatever you assigned it to. You can look at the packets and square waves with an oscilliscope, and when you do 9videos on youtube), it immediately becomes clear how it works, how straight forward, and at least in principal, how simple it is.
The fact that it's lighter and smaller that my two TX-16s and has a JR bay for Crossfire makes me come back and look again at this transmitter. The fact that it's non-HAL, missing a bunch of switches, ugly, monochrome, and $20 too expensive... makes me pass on adding it to my stable. The missing switches for me is the fatal blow really. I use all my switches and trims as momentary switches. Also the pot gimbals. As an in the field transmitter, you'll never wear out the gimbals.. but if you're like me and use it as a controller in a sim I fly constantly... they are the only control you use alone and non-stop so I put a ton of mileage on mine. For a simulator controller, HAL effect gimbals... necessity. But if all you do is real world flying, you won't ever be up in the air long enough to ever wear out pot gimbals. I would recommend passing on tis radio and getting the basic black HAL version of the TX-16s for around $130. You get the touch color screen, gimbals, and all those switches that way. Keep it basic black... once you start trying to bling it out the cost goes $$$ up up up without adding any functionality. What none of these reviewers will tell you, is OpenX is a total b1tch to configure. You can do a lot with it, but out of the box your radio is a blank slate that will do nothing, operate nothing, not even arm your model. You'll have to watch at least 20-40 videos and spend several weeks/months at it if you are coming in from zero/cold. If you have a job and no time for that kind of hassle, forget this radio. Get yourself the DJI system and the DJI controller that is setup to work out of the box. This radio is more like a Commodore 64, where when you power it up, you just get a blank screen with a blinking cursor and it does nothing... you'll have to program it.. in the radio, in OpenTX companion, and in Betaflight/iNav/Kiss whatever. I don't recommend it to anyhone who is not tech savy and comfortable with flashing firmware, installing drivers, or changing settings, testing, going back, repeating... sometimes 30-50 times in a row until you get it right or figure it out.
Bought a TX12 recently to replace my Jumper T8SG, and I like it. I fly real-world exclusively. The pots in my good ol', 4 year-old, tried-'n'-true OG T8SG were totally clapped out, so your assertion that pots don't wear out if you fly real-world doesn't persuade the pots in my aged Jumper to continue to operate noise-free. As to OpenTX: I was very familiar with Deviation, and never used OpenTX before. I had my TX12 configured as close as I could get to my T8SG's stick feel, and had all switches and the bells 'n' whistles sorted out in less than one hour. Full disclosure: I learned to program devices on a Commodore 64 back in the 1980s, and have used that talent on all programmable devices that I own. I've forgotten more operating systems and programming languages than what I use on a daily basis. The C64 was a far more impressive device to me back in the early 80s than any gadget available on the market today. PCs had yet to become household devices, and the smart phone was science fiction. I wouldn't own a full-sized transmitter if I was given one for free. The form factor's not for me: too big, clunky, and heavy. As a real-world flyer, I have to consider size and weight coz I hafta lug that crap around. My needs are more than just having an overly-expensive and complex game controller. You do you, tho'. P.S. That's a 'Hall-effect sensor' you're referring to. The phenomena is named after its discoverer, Edwin Hall.
@@billmcdonald4335 Well, when you're a hard core blind aerobatic flyer like me, youw ant as many switches as possible to read out things back to you as I can't see STTT in an OSD. I fly the sim mostly anyway since its way more fun than the real RC hobby moneypit. The real hobby has blown complete chunks for me. I put $3000 in it so far and have only flown 5 minutes. It's been a complete bust and a rlp0ff so far. The sim though, the sims are aweseom. 3,000 hours so far and still truckign. The actual RC hobby itself is total g6rg6ge. I hate to sayt hat because soem of my best friends are big names in the RC hobby, but it didn't work at all for me. It's misogynistic as h3ll like general aviation and very ambivalent of people with dsabilities or visual impairments. Fo the past 2 years all my RC equipment but one X15s has collected dust. Oddly, I keep throwing money at it... I'm receiving a $209 Axis Flying Box today as well as some props and a Frsky USB dongle. One last desperate attempt to fly FPV to an actual monitor and not those rubbish goggles which people with visual impairments can't use at all. So yeah, different strokes for different folks. I'm a hardcore gamer girl and 5 year game server admin, and would never fly with a gamepad controller. But I mean, never say never?
@@choppergirl I've been in and out of r/c since the late 1970s. I've seen a lot of change. It's all good. We've got our opinions. I hope you do find what it is you're seeking in the hobby. It's a neat passtime.
@@billmcdonald4335 All I want is my G.D. $3,000 worth of RC equipment to fly as advertised. RC has been an emotional rollercoaster and nightmare h3ll Ever blow up a $500 model ont he bench jsut by mating.. not plugging in.. mating.. an XT60 battery connector.. backwards. Not suppose to happen. Guess what. My first model, kapow, game over. Blind girl is the best ddmmn aerobatic pilot int he world; what a blind girl can't do, anymore, though, is solder. Not even with a $300 inspection soldering microscope. BTW, Commodore wouldn't of failed if Tramiel had bundled a 3rd party fast loader DOS cartridge (or updated MS BASIC with DOS commands) with with every computer, AND been a little bit more on the ball keeping his computer backwards compatible from one tot he next. Be sure to check out my free Soundpack for Open-TX :-) Still the biggest and the best. I repurposed all my trim switches to read otu Crossfire telemetry back to me.
@@billmcdonald4335 Next major RC event you go to, count how many guys are there, and then count how many girls are there. Then do some simple math and I want you to think "Fifty percent of the world is female, yeah, something is phvcked up and wrong here. This hobby has issues." I could rattle off a long list of hate I've gotten just by trying to contribute something to the hobby. You sound like a boy. Are you a bot? Stop posting commercial spam. You're fat. Etc... We're out here and we're flying but alone in our living rooms away from you. And with that, I now must go walk out to my mailbox to pick up $350 more RC equipment.... that my phone says is sitting now in my mailbox. I throw more money at this, and still don't fly...
New subscriber! On any open tx, (long story short, back n2 Flying after a 20 year hiatus. Bought spektrum because most planes r Bnf. HATE spektrum!) Do the open tx transmitters channels different for every protocol? MY issue is, fo I have to re-learn channel assignments OR for spektrum, is the dsm protocol the same assignment as spektrum? Thank YOU sir! 👍
If I purchase this radio how do I know what kind of BNF drones will bind up to this radio? Sorry I'm new at the hobby and some drones come with different receivers and what does crossfire mean?
How can I get a hold of anybody at RC Buddy to talk to someone about the TX16S that I purchased from RC Buddy. No one answers the phone, is their a new phone number because the one on the site one answers.
@@BuddyRC and can I load the model of the m2 to the tx12? Am new trying to chooses between the TX 16s and the tx12. Another q: what about using the tx12 with accurc as a simulator?
@@M00nsave445 it'll definitely work with AccuRC. I haven't tested the m2 model on it specifically. I will say the tx16s is a much better transmitter though
I'm just only wonder why you always need to choose between small cheaper radio without hall gimbals and limited multi (Tx12) or BIG HEAVY radio with everything (Tx16s). Sorry but big radios are just impractical to me. At the end it's just drone and you don't really need millions of channels/switches to fly. I'm coming from PlayStation world where pad was small and compact. I really don't like big radios with mass of almost 1 kg. The only compact choice with hall is now expensive TBS Tango 2 but it's only crossfire :( I wouldn't mind to pay even $450 for PlayStation like looking COMPACT radio with everything (hall, multi, crossfire) but AFAIK there is nothing on the market like that.
team-blacksheep.com/products/prod:tbs_mpm I know we already have a bunch on order plus the bay will be here soon : team-blacksheep.com/products/prod:tango2_modbay
@@BuddyRC Looks like some solution but IMHO additional module makes it look like mutant and the compact shape for which you payed a lot disappears :D Thanks for the reply - I really appreciate it and in general I love this channel :)
Great video TJ, Cool smaller radio, now i would loved something like that when i had my XK 120 heli cause hated the factory radio. But Out of all the brands why wouldn't they put Spektrum in it.... that is 90% what people fly. I know at my field its more popular then anything else.
Probably cause it is a budget radio and they would have had to put better multi module on it the would make the price point not what they wanted it to be.
officially supported means that it has its own thing in OpenTX unlike the BetaFPV Lite Radio 2 which uses the qx7 one
Thank you for the clarification!
Hi,
Very grateful for you. Will it show the Spektrum telemetries on it's screen?
Thanks
I hope potenciometers are better than in BetaFPV RadioLite2. Mine in RL2 started to "shake" positions after a week :/ I found some solution to unassemble them and bend metal piece that tracks resistive layer but in parraler started to look for better radio. Seems like Tx12 is good candidate
I subbed !! Merry Christmas
Thanks Andrew! Best gift ever 😍
Seeing FlySky under Type in Multi Mode is a bit confusing when this radio doesn't support FlySky (3:18 in video), being as how it only has a CC2005 chip rather than something like a JP4-in-1. Man I want one of these. :)
I'll need to fly it before recommending it to people. For less than half the price of its bigger brother, win.. By the way, one of those thumbs up is from me...👍🏻🍻👊🏻
The ultimate stocking stuffer
All radios are really 1 channel (well, unless it's like Crossfire with telemetry back). The "channels" aren't channels, but just number of square waves sent per packet. 16 variable width square waves sent per package, they call it 16 channel. same as an 8 channel, but packet length is twice as long, at half the number of packets per second. Receiver reads the square wave time length, assigned it to a variable, thranslates that to a range --1000 to +1000 (or whatever), and then passes that on to flight controller to be used to control whatever you assigned it to. You can look at the packets and square waves with an oscilliscope, and when you do 9videos on youtube), it immediately becomes clear how it works, how straight forward, and at least in principal, how simple it is.
The fact that it's lighter and smaller that my two TX-16s and has a JR bay for Crossfire makes me come back and look again at this transmitter.
The fact that it's non-HAL, missing a bunch of switches, ugly, monochrome, and $20 too expensive... makes me pass on adding it to my stable.
The missing switches for me is the fatal blow really. I use all my switches and trims as momentary switches. Also the pot gimbals. As an in the field transmitter, you'll never wear out the gimbals.. but if you're like me and use it as a controller in a sim I fly constantly... they are the only control you use alone and non-stop so I put a ton of mileage on mine. For a simulator controller, HAL effect gimbals... necessity. But if all you do is real world flying, you won't ever be up in the air long enough to ever wear out pot gimbals.
I would recommend passing on tis radio and getting the basic black HAL version of the TX-16s for around $130. You get the touch color screen, gimbals, and all those switches that way. Keep it basic black... once you start trying to bling it out the cost goes $$$ up up up without adding any functionality.
What none of these reviewers will tell you, is OpenX is a total b1tch to configure. You can do a lot with it, but out of the box your radio is a blank slate that will do nothing, operate nothing, not even arm your model. You'll have to watch at least 20-40 videos and spend several weeks/months at it if you are coming in from zero/cold. If you have a job and no time for that kind of hassle, forget this radio. Get yourself the DJI system and the DJI controller that is setup to work out of the box. This radio is more like a Commodore 64, where when you power it up, you just get a blank screen with a blinking cursor and it does nothing... you'll have to program it.. in the radio, in OpenTX companion, and in Betaflight/iNav/Kiss whatever. I don't recommend it to anyhone who is not tech savy and comfortable with flashing firmware, installing drivers, or changing settings, testing, going back, repeating... sometimes 30-50 times in a row until you get it right or figure it out.
Bought a TX12 recently to replace my Jumper T8SG, and I like it. I fly real-world exclusively. The pots in my good ol', 4 year-old, tried-'n'-true OG T8SG were totally clapped out, so your assertion that pots don't wear out if you fly real-world doesn't persuade the pots in my aged Jumper to continue to operate noise-free.
As to OpenTX: I was very familiar with Deviation, and never used OpenTX before. I had my TX12 configured as close as I could get to my T8SG's stick feel, and had all switches and the bells 'n' whistles sorted out in less than one hour. Full disclosure: I learned to program devices on a Commodore 64 back in the 1980s, and have used that talent on all programmable devices that I own. I've forgotten more operating systems and programming languages than what I use on a daily basis. The C64 was a far more impressive device to me back in the early 80s than any gadget available on the market today. PCs had yet to become household devices, and the smart phone was science fiction.
I wouldn't own a full-sized transmitter if I was given one for free. The form factor's not for me: too big, clunky, and heavy. As a real-world flyer, I have to consider size and weight coz I hafta lug that crap around. My needs are more than just having an overly-expensive and complex game controller.
You do you, tho'.
P.S. That's a 'Hall-effect sensor' you're referring to. The phenomena is named after its discoverer, Edwin Hall.
@@billmcdonald4335 Well, when you're a hard core blind aerobatic flyer like me, youw ant as many switches as possible to read out things back to you as I can't see STTT in an OSD.
I fly the sim mostly anyway since its way more fun than the real RC hobby moneypit. The real hobby has blown complete chunks for me. I put $3000 in it so far and have only flown 5 minutes. It's been a complete bust and a rlp0ff so far. The sim though, the sims are aweseom. 3,000 hours so far and still truckign.
The actual RC hobby itself is total g6rg6ge. I hate to sayt hat because soem of my best friends are big names in the RC hobby, but it didn't work at all for me. It's misogynistic as h3ll like general aviation and very ambivalent of people with dsabilities or visual impairments.
Fo the past 2 years all my RC equipment but one X15s has collected dust. Oddly, I keep throwing money at it... I'm receiving a $209 Axis Flying Box today as well as some props and a Frsky USB dongle. One last desperate attempt to fly FPV to an actual monitor and not those rubbish goggles which people with visual impairments can't use at all.
So yeah, different strokes for different folks.
I'm a hardcore gamer girl and 5 year game server admin, and would never fly with a gamepad controller. But I mean, never say never?
@@choppergirl I've been in and out of r/c since the late 1970s. I've seen a lot of change. It's all good. We've got our opinions. I hope you do find what it is you're seeking in the hobby. It's a neat passtime.
@@billmcdonald4335 All I want is my G.D. $3,000 worth of RC equipment to fly as advertised. RC has been an emotional rollercoaster and nightmare h3ll Ever blow up a $500 model ont he bench jsut by mating.. not plugging in.. mating.. an XT60 battery connector.. backwards. Not suppose to happen. Guess what. My first model, kapow, game over.
Blind girl is the best ddmmn aerobatic pilot int he world; what a blind girl can't do, anymore, though, is solder. Not even with a $300 inspection soldering microscope.
BTW, Commodore wouldn't of failed if Tramiel had bundled a 3rd party fast loader DOS cartridge (or updated MS BASIC with DOS commands) with with every computer, AND been a little bit more on the ball keeping his computer backwards compatible from one tot he next.
Be sure to check out my free Soundpack for Open-TX :-) Still the biggest and the best. I repurposed all my trim switches to read otu Crossfire telemetry back to me.
@@billmcdonald4335 Next major RC event you go to, count how many guys are there, and then count how many girls are there. Then do some simple math and I want you to think "Fifty percent of the world is female, yeah, something is phvcked up and wrong here. This hobby has issues."
I could rattle off a long list of hate I've gotten just by trying to contribute something to the hobby. You sound like a boy. Are you a bot? Stop posting commercial spam. You're fat. Etc...
We're out here and we're flying but alone in our living rooms away from you. And with that, I now must go walk out to my mailbox to pick up $350 more RC equipment.... that my phone says is sitting now in my mailbox. I throw more money at this, and still don't fly...
New subscriber!
On any open tx, (long story short, back n2 Flying after a 20 year hiatus. Bought spektrum because most planes r Bnf. HATE spektrum!)
Do the open tx transmitters channels different for every protocol?
MY issue is, fo I have to re-learn channel assignments OR for spektrum, is the dsm protocol the same assignment as spektrum?
Thank YOU sir! 👍
Okay thank you, I'll try again.
say, can i use it for rc tank?
Yes you can
What size MCSd card will it take
If I purchase this radio how do I know what kind of BNF drones will bind up to this radio? Sorry I'm new at the hobby and some drones come with different receivers and what does crossfire mean?
This radio doesn't do Crossfire out of the box but with an external module it is possible
Can I use the tbs crossfire with this radio? I’m new to this, so it’s a bit confusing at the moment
Yes
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Hi TJ, the only Radiomaster TX12s I can find are around $100.00. Has the price gone up, or am I looking at the wrong type of radio?
All prices have gone up
thanx TJ
How can I get a hold of anybody at RC Buddy to talk to someone about the TX16S that I purchased from RC Buddy. No one answers the phone, is their a new phone number because the one on the site one answers.
614-808-4488 between the hours of 9am-5pm EST
@@BuddyRC That's the number I've been calling.
Weird. Just checking call logs and I don't see any missed calls for today. You could email support@buddyrc.com and ask Dan to give you a call instead
Hi, is it possible to use the tx12 with the omp v2 (through firmware update like the tx16s)?
It's not. But you can use it with an sfhss receiver
@@BuddyRC and can I load the model of the m2 to the tx12? Am new trying to chooses between the TX 16s and the tx12. Another q: what about using the tx12 with accurc as a simulator?
Anyone can help?
@@M00nsave445 it'll definitely work with AccuRC. I haven't tested the m2 model on it specifically. I will say the tx16s is a much better transmitter though
@@BuddyRC will go with the tx16s then. Thanks for your reply. Subbed as well
Will it bind with my omphobby m1
No it will bind to the OMP M1
Can i bind it with flysky reciever
Yes
Hi, is an SD card necessary or just optional? Do I need to purchase an SD card or is it fully usable without one? Thanks :]
Optional. It just limits you to fewer models.
@@BuddyRC Thanks :]
Is this elrs?
No
@@BuddyRC yes it is.
Yoooo lets gooo
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😂😂😂
I'm just only wonder why you always need to choose between small cheaper radio without hall gimbals and limited multi (Tx12) or BIG HEAVY radio with everything (Tx16s). Sorry but big radios are just impractical to me. At the end it's just drone and you don't really need millions of channels/switches to fly. I'm coming from PlayStation world where pad was small and compact. I really don't like big radios with mass of almost 1 kg. The only compact choice with hall is now expensive TBS Tango 2 but it's only crossfire :( I wouldn't mind to pay even $450 for PlayStation like looking COMPACT radio with everything (hall, multi, crossfire) but AFAIK there is nothing on the market like that.
Tango 2 you can get a module expansion for it and the tbs multi protocol module. Believe it's not quite available yet but soon
team-blacksheep.com/products/prod:tbs_mpm
I know we already have a bunch on order plus the bay will be here soon : team-blacksheep.com/products/prod:tango2_modbay
@@BuddyRC Looks like some solution but IMHO additional module makes it look like mutant and the compact shape for which you payed a lot disappears :D Thanks for the reply - I really appreciate it and in general I love this channel :)
Keep an eye out. I have a feeling 2021 will introduce some cool stuff
How about the Jumper T12 Pro? Small, openTX, hall gimbals and full multiprotocol.