I aid people via my art, but since artificial intelligence was developed, my job has been declined because it can accomplish more tasks than I can. Because of this, I fear that in a few years, ai will replace me. However, I must say that the video you did was incredibly useful.
It will find its commercial niche once the legalities are worked out, and in the same way as phone cameras put photography and film in the hands of average joe, without replacing photographers and filmmakers, AI will do the same for illustration. In the end, it's just another tool, good for some things, bad for others.
I saw a clip where interviewers asked an AI robot if they think they could do a better job than world leaders. They said yes as they would remove bias from their decisions. It also said they are designed not to lie, but couldn’t guarantee ‘they’ never would! Very worrying! Interesting to see how AI robots would respond if asked about art, could they do better, does the human element automatically make art better than AI ever could? Dystopian future on the horizon? Keep painting! I know I get more of a sense of ‘wow’ when I know a human has produced something rather than a machine. Although some things (like an AI machine) may not get such a wow response. More of a wow concern. 😕
I am a Concept Artist in the game industry, I also paint and create on my own time because it's a part of who I am. 80% of my studio was laid off a few months ago. Before this happened the company wanted me to use AI in my work I tried it and learned how to use it but, I couldn't buy into it, It felt wrong deep in my soul. So I told my supervisors I wouldn't use it in my work a couple of weeks later they laid everyone off and kept the AI artist. I know that there are many people that feel the way we do about AI generated art so thank you for making this video It gives me some hope for the future.
Yeah we went from playing life on hard mode to nightmare mode. AI will first solve the most difficult problems, chess, art, economy, running businesses etc. It's kind of a weird compliment we got hit first. However, soon we'll all be out of a job and become plumbers and construction workers. Personally i'm considering reschooling to work in art preservation or something museum/history related, as this AI bs is tilting me to no end. Hope you're doing well. Do consider studios eventually will be tanking creative big brains in favor of money/dev cost and they will realize the art isn't just output but also our added personal contribution that is needed for a successful product.
i see the digital art industry, specifically illustrators, taking a big hit from AI. I'm an amateur that loves to digi art, but lately I've put that pen down and taken my brush back up. it just feels more sustainable to put oil to canvas than 1s and 0s on a screen atm.
Hi genZ are you aware you as kid and teen wanted this technology I wish someone would create something to help with writing this easy faster and sound perfect enough to get an A plus now your letting fear keep you from realize anything you say negative to release into the world
Hi Andrew, I follow you from the very beginning. You produce wonderful artwork but I must say that this “spiritual painting” of today about the AI is the best thing you have ever done. I totally agree with you about the AI. The AI so called "artwork" is nothing but disgrace to the artist, spit on his mind and trample of his soul. The cave painting from 30.000 years ago have much more spirit and humanity than AI would ever have.
Totally agree! Long term fan that likes to contemplate here! I'm both musician and oil painter so I've been thinking about the AI invention quite a lot. The big value in art is the PROCESS. The effort. When a human chooses this or that color/brushwork/composition to convey emotion to another human who looks at it. From human to human. AI robs us of the beautiful *effortful* process. Of course the result for the user, the money for the artist is a nice half of the value. But not everything at all. Artistic professions are the proffessions that are done not just for the money, but for the CALLING. And AI robs musicians/artists/sculptors not only of money (the superficial level), but the calling (the deeper human level). Maybe I sound a bit alarmist lol, but I even wondered if there'll be a wave of suicides amongst the creatives in the next couple of years, not just because they don't have a way of earning money anymore, but because they don't have a calling anymore. Don't have a meaning of life anymore. I'd maybe chuck myself from a bridge just because of boredom and nothing meaningfull to do! :) For centuries all the physical proffessions - cole miners, conveyer belt workers, construction site workers - were slightly dreaming of ditching the physically demanding unhealthy jobs of inhaling dust etc to take up a guitar, do sculprtures, paint paintings etc. Now AI robbed us of the most desireable jobs - art jobs - and leaving us more physically demanding jobs lol. Recently I was trying to plaster and polish my wall and I realized no human should enhale that disgusting dust and be in such noise poluted envirement. AI, stop making pretty pictures! Go and sand my walls b.tch! :) It is ME who wants to create pretty pictures! We don't need help with that. Yesterday I went to see the Openheimer movie about the atomic bomb inventor who immediately got the "inventor's remorse". I kinda feel all the AI developers still haven't got the "inventor's remorse", with their "inventing for the sake of the invention" or "who over-invents eachother" mentality, and still are joyful how fun quick and cheap it is to make pretty pics in 0.5seconds. Forgetting the main question - what for? Will it make the humanity deeply happier? Sorry for such a long-winded meanderings. Hope we'll find our way out as humanity. Maybe the swing of the pendulum will be that we'll learn to treasure hand-painted art even more. Or we do some legislative means to at least stop AI from taking the money from creative people, and taking a part of their identity (actors, voice-over artists, when their voice is getting stolen to voice some pornos without them even knowing that. Without getting a dime for that. Shame for free! :) Anyway, hope like with any previous invention (electricity, diesel fuel, fire, cars, internet) we get spooked for a sec and then tame it. Making it make us happier. Peace and love to all human creators!
Many years ago I had an apprenticeship, in Germany, as a goldsmith and hand engraver. We learned to do make our own tools and make the jewelry from scratch. Now, with all the fancy tools available and pre-fabricated parts you just need to solder together, and the population no longer educated about art - it's hard to make a living as a true goldsmith, every Tom, Dick and Harry is now making "fine" jewelry and buyers don't care how much of it is actually designed and fabricated by a true artist. I seen what jewelry schools int he US crank out - same old same old, no original thought and everything looks like cookie-cutter. Now you have CNC, laptop software and other "helpers", and if this keeps going there will be no human emotion left in artwork
I completely agree Andrew. AI-generated art takes away from the human experience and kills creativity as well as what the process of Art making is all about. The struggle is one of the key elements that makes art so valuable and precious. As a digital concept exploring, instant gratification tool, AI can not, and will never replace authentic real-life painting.
Almost made me cry at the end. Ive felt so lost and displaced since AI starting surfacing on socia media. Something I've spent probably about 20,000 hours trying to master and all of a sudden you can just press a button and create. I've fallen into a deep pit and havent been painting much but I still get this urge to just keep pushing through because im lost without creating art. I hope things improve. It does seem like the general population are getting sick of AI so maybe it will be okay. idk... I hope so...
If you are a commercial digital artist then it will be tough. I think it will be better to move and take any form of traditional art where you can use your existing skills.
Nothing can beat human emotion, the love, passion and creativity that a person has when creating art can't be replaced. People that really enjoys a great painting will always appreciate something that is created by another human being.
I totally agree brother! The feelings I had watching you create the graphite and charcoal ocean cliff scene made me feel extremely inspired, amazed and appreciated of your work but watching you create the AI cliffs I felt largely nothing other than acknowledgement of your computer graphic abilities.
Thank you for the encouragement, Andrew. I remember the first time I walked into an art gallery being put off by the modern art and that was a big part of me not pursuing a career in art back then. You're so right that we need to keep on creating beautiful authentic art and not be put off by fake art, not to allow it to dilute our view of art. We need to value our art for all the reasons you mentioned.
Spoken, expressed, and explained brilliantly Tisch, from the heart and mind of a truly conscious aware intelligent human. Thank you Andrew for saying so eloquently what most of us are thinking with regard to Ai. We are in a new world now where we are not asked if we need or want this latest ai tech in our lives, nobody asked the billions of people, they just thrust it upon us as if we are playthings for the insanely rich. I will never put down my pencil and paintbrush.
Well said! It was incomprehensible to me at the time when people were convincing me of the benefits of A.I. in art, and I still don't buy it. But you said it: Connection. I strongly believe in the value of community in art and connecting with what is in front of me. I like to draw concepts and influences of my loved ones and incorporating it into my works. You have a new subscriber, my friend! You rock!
I think when artists including myself so I’ve stopped doing it , start using the words “ process” “ connection “ “ embrace “ “ journey “ emotions “ you instantly lose the people who like your work, ( normal people, those that can’t do your type of work, the non artist ) all they want to know if you’re doing them a commission portrait is “DOES IT LOOK LIKE THEM” , not “ your impression , process” “ connection “ journey and the “ emotions “ you went through of the picture you’re copying “ .. they don’t care, only they care about is does it look like them .. for me , artists have to move away from this type of language, there is nothing more patronising than art critiques stood with a glass of red , quaffing and saying on TV about a piece “ journey , emotions, style, passion, when the people at home watching this are thinking , that’s rubbish, it doesn’t look like them at all, that’s why we have “ struggling artists “ they are told all this nonsense of the “ struggle “ and it’s all about YOUR JOURNEY AND EMOTIONS when in fact it’s about , DOES IT LOOK LIKE THEM AND IS THE PERSON PAYING FOR IT HAPPY . my opinion ,
Thank you for bringing another voice to the discussion along with a little hope to everyone. As others have mentioned, I've also recently picked up my gouaches and inks - both in order to distance myself from all the toxic discourse and abuse going on online, but equally to reconnect with what is arguably a fundamental part of my being.
I am so glad you mention the "Human struggle" because it can only be understood using the fifth dimension: Time. The very reason why an observer spends exactly that "time' absorbing a work of art, a song, a movie, a painting, a poem, a book, ballet, over and over. AI flattens time. The same way that artificial vanilla flavor will make you think that something that doesn't exist, does. BTW, I would like to suggest you add a twist to your work, a surprise. You have a talent few have. I was a commercial artist a long time ago when commercials were works of art and they won Clio's. There was always a twist.
First off, I want to credit your growth as a youtuber, not just as an artist! Your confidence and skills with videography have grown LEAPS since I saw your video covering Russel Petherbridge's portrait! I've been following the Muddy Colors illustration blog for years, and early this September they posted a genuinely insightful blogpost by Lauren Panepinto, an art director. I think you would find some fulfillment from reading it, because it helps encapsulate why "AI art" is such a captivating subject for non-artists. They bring up a quote from the poet Mary Oliver that I feel is quite poignant: "The most regretful people on earth are those who felt the call to creative work, who felt their own creative power restive and uprising, and gave to it neither power nor time." I see a lot of the joy from AI art and other AI-creator software comes from people who chose not to study the skills to create and instead chose what was practical and dull to shape their lives. In that respect, being able to create something vaguely approximating the image in your mind with a few button clicks must be liberating to them. To feel like they finally have the means to actualize their dreams. The sad part is that it comes at the expense of innumerable people who sacrificed stability to pursue their dreams from the start.
Spot on! Great assessment. True artists have nothing to worry about, the human connection and creative process is authentic and will last forever. This is the best articulated video on the topic ~ so well crafted Tisch 😊🎉
This is so timely. I have been thinking how to help my grandson. His 7th grade art class appears to be only computer generated exercises. He is disappointed as he understands art on the different level. I will have him watch this. I think it will help.
Thank you Andrew for reminding me of the value of my own art and what it means to me. I love the feel and texture of paper and canvas and how it feels to run my pencil across the paper. The feeling of turning a blank page into something I'm proud of. I often say that I've brought something into the world that never existed before and I get a buzz out of that. I used to strive for photo realism as a kid and beat myself up over not achieving it but I know now that was just part of the journey that I wouldn't change as it gave me the building blocks I needed. Art is a companion to me. I remember living 20ks out in the bush as we call it in Australia and could only get into town once a week for groceries etc. My older sister would buy some new pencils a rubber (eraser) and if she could get the money off Mum a new sketch pad. As you know a good sketch pad is gold. I can remember the feeling of begging her for some paper to be able to draw along with her and just how amazing it felt to create a drawing that I was proud of. Although my sister was always better than me even to today. Getting back to feel of having an unfolded clean piece of white sketch paper in front of me and my pencil and rubber ready to go was half the fun for me. The possibilities even sitting there all ready to go and then saying to my older sister what can I draw? brings back great memories of a life that was only about the art. Like I said art has always been a friend or companion that gave me hope of a better life. Now looking back I'd like others to know that feeling. I could be out with a crowd of friends and all I wanted to do was get back to my little art area and paint or draw. The kids are up now so that's it for memory lane but again thanks for reminding me of the wholesome joy that art brings. Cheers.
You are amazing, Andrew! Thank you!! I am a teacher and I teach writing along with a variety of other subjects. This year I am teaching an art/craft class for two homeschool groups and I happened onto your videos when I was looking for good information to teach color theory! You are such an incredible teacher and your painting is breathtaking! With the invasion of AI, I am so grieved how it will affect learning and creativity. I have already addressed Chat GPT with my writing classes and emphasized with my students how it will take away from their learning and processing. I didn't think about how much of an impact AI would be for the world of art, but of course it would be problematic! I stumbled onto this video and I plan to show it to ALL of my classes!! Thank you so much! Thank you for your heart as a teacher and also as an incredible artist with such an eye for beauty and color!
Thank you for this wonderfully inspirational video, Andrew. Throughout the digital painting process, I noticed you had a selection of brushes. I'm not one who revels in the idea of using someone else's brushes, but I am curious to your process of creating them. How do you decide the look and feel of a digital brush and how do you approach creating one to fit your needs. I've been trying to do digital studies and brush selection is often an issue I run into. Not sure how many other people would be interested in a video on the subject, but none-the-less, I figured it would be worth mentioning. Keep up the phenomenal work and thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experiences so openly. :)
I love your content and these types of videos. You always bring the artistic, philosophical, and psychological considerations to the front of the conversation. I think the concepts that we consider as a result of your videos are important ones. These ideas you bring up seem to come from the fact that you are a professional artist working hands on with the problems faced and presented in your videos. Keep Doing What You Do! and Keep Painting!
I love your thinking, so inspirational as is your wonderful art. I've had a fight with myself about digital art, as apposed to wet paint art, I love them both but was niggled that digital wasn't real. Well, it is. One still needs to draw, and mix colours and imagine. I'm so pleased you pointed out the differences between that and AI, not confused any more. Not really painted for years and so annoyed with me for that, at my great age I'm going to get stuck in instead of looking back with regret on the lost years. Thank you. xx
Before I continue to watch this video I want to give the author a thumbs up 👍 just to appreciate that introduction and emphasize that AI can't help art and is bad for artists❤ As a matter of fact for me... "ARTS inspires A.I" NO DETAILS NEEDED ❤ I love this video ❤🎉
Dear Andrew, I agree with you 100%. The challenge is, sadly, or perhaps justly, that art remains and perhaps should remain a subjective attribute. One can argue till blue in the face what is and isn’t art. But if you create art for others then their subjective opinion makes it art for them or not, no matter how we may disagree with their assessment. If you consider art as it realities to human experience, you cannot ignore that on planet earth, the human experience is not only individual but cultural, socioeconomic, and intellectually-based and as such what is good or appropriate or artful is not a given across the spectrum of humanity and surely of history. As much as we consider the poker playing bulldogs painted on black velvet to be an atrocity to art, so long as someone loves it and hangs it on their wall, it is art for them. It certainly isn’t for me and you but it is for them. And the fact that it is for them does not mean we should bow and consider it as such either. But the point is, sorry, I’m getting to it, that AI-created works may be mere algorithmic to you and I but art to someone who buys it and enjoys it and hangs it. I would not consider it art for me but I wouldn’t try to argue with that person that it isn’t art any more than I can stand someone telling me a banana taped to the wall is art or a tire around the neck of a stuffed goat is art. The beauty of art in its most fundamental sense is that it is personal. It speaks to you or it doesn’t. If it doesn’t, at best you may acknowledge its craft mastery or its clever intellectual value or humor, etc. As an old artist who has great respect for you and your father, I’d say, when you see AI-generated art, or paintings by monkeys or accidental drip marks on a patina-covered splash guard, smile and enjoy the intellectual prowess of us humans or the delightful anthropomorphic show or magic of randomness. You don’t have to bow to the imbecile trends of calling everything art when the money-laundering modern art market says it is. You and I and a hundred other likes us will not, and should not try to, change the general public’s opinion on what they should consider art for themselves. Enjoyment of the art should not depend on the story or the struggles or the journey behind it; those could and should enhance the work only not move it from “is not art” to “is art”. I hope that you continue to do such great work with such pure heart and masterful approach and to produce these fantastic videos for all. You are a natural teacher not just a fantastic artist. Thank your parents’ DNA and your perseverance for that. Cheers.
Hey Tish! A.I. art is really cool and graphic in a superficial kinda way. It looks great in the kid's rooms, the club, fast food joint and other places where you don't stay long. After awhile though, you realize something's missing. My mom's got a beautiful mountain stream on her wall. It took a little bit to figure out what was wrong. It's an A.I. generated composite. I don't know how else to explain it.... it's flat. You can't hear the water or feel the breeze when you look at it like you do when a human did it. I found out what was up, by asking her where the photo was taken. At first, it was really beautiful, but then......ugh....... there was something missing. Even my worst paintings (aka collage fodder) have more life in them than that mountain stream. Yeah. The human element makes a difference. We really DO bring a lot to the canvas when we get busy and create.
Thank you so much Andrew. You have said it far better than I ever could. I'm so happy to see that you see AI as I do. Thank you so much for explaining it so well. I forwarded this to my cousin because her friend uses AI all the time lately, and I find those so-called "paintings" say nothing to me as the viewer. They are emotionless. I've always loved your paintings since I found you on RUclips years ago. I also appreciate your attention to the details in your artwork.
Olá Andrew! Sou muito seu fã! Cara, Muito, Muito inspiradora a sua explicação! Servirá principalmente à àqueles que se sentem ameaçados pelas AIs, e também, para os que evitam a fantástica experiência espiritual que proporciona o processo do desenho e qualquer forma de criação. 😊😊😊
I really needed this video ,I felt like giving up when AI hit us but now I’m more determined more than ever to carry on pursuing the art I love . Thanks Andrew from the bottom of my heart .
The advent of AI image generators have completely changed art for me. I come from almost 30 years of film and game art, the vast majority of it has been digital. But I’m leaving the field and the digital world. The industry will adopt these AI systems as quickly as they can. Their entire goal is to get the product as cheaply as possible. I’ve already felt the pain of losing work from these machines. Quite a lot actually. I’m out. I’m going back to my roots in traditional art, even if that means my career as a professional artist is over. I refuse to take up AI as it would mean becoming a traitor to my people and my integrity. It’s a horrible time for me.
Totally agree with your comments. I personally have even gone as far as giving up digital photography and gone back to film. Some might think a bit extreme but that's me! I do my best wether painting a picture or taking a photograph. Keep it real folks.
Extremely correct and very well stated, Andrew. Thank you for utilizing your platform to communicate this very important, absolute truth. There is no substitute which allows us to truly experience the inner connections and wonderful discoveries we make along the journey and through the process. Anything artificial robs us of overcoming challenges that further develop our ability to create and channel the gifts that come from our ultimate creator. The result is very likely to result in hollow achievements and the artificial fulfillment.
I love this so much. As a person who only recently discovered painting... (Real painting, not primary school - paint me a house and a tree type of thing ... lol ) Im having to navigate the world of art already filled with NFT's, and gen AI. I wish I knew how it was at the beginning, pre gen AI. Many people ask me - what's the point of me painting - if the AI can produce so many amazing results. My answer is simple - I do it for me - I don't do it (only) because I like, or I love it. I do it because I have to. Its a deep internal pull, that can not be stopped unless through creative process of painting or drawing. And... if someone likes the end result, its always a bonus for me. And getting to know the artist and their process, makes it even more special to hold their hand produced piece of art - can't be recreated with AI. Andrew - I know you talk a lot about other masters - but for us, and certainly for me, you are the master of our generation. Not only highly skilled, but also very kind and generous sharing your knowledge!
I actually think Ai can be used as a tool to improve art. Especially as use as reference material to draw inspiration from! I don’t think an Ai generated image can or should ever be labelled as Art. But using Ai as a stepping stone to generate ideas or compositions is really useful. I use MidJourney sometimes and for me it’s use is literally in the name. It’s only going to get you halfway on your journey to create something. It might help with ideas but a human has to create the end result.
No it can't, at least not ethically. Because none of the artists who got scraped and exploited by these image generators (none of which would even function without these pictures used as a source) ever agreed to be part of it. You might find it useful, but the end use doesn't matter one bit here. What matters is that using these generators is an insult to millions of artists (and image owners in general), who, had they been asked, would have refused to be part of this debacle. And furthermore, there is no way for owners of images to be removed from the "training" after the fact. It's rotten to the core.
I disagree with its being a good tool for ideas. Coming up with and working out the ideas are part of the process, the human process, part of what hones the artist's skill, and makes his work more rewarding. Using AI for the 'mid journey' is like going to the beginning of a moutain hike, watching a virtual reality of the hike trail, and then driving around to the other side of the mountain. I think people using this for "generating ideas" are fooling themselves.
I see Mid journey as essentially just another ai tool that assists in diminishing the thinking imaginative brain. It's what's helping the ugly art multiply by the thousands of social keyboarders who've never picked up a real paintbrush or pencil. Pinterest, insta, fb, flickr, etc etc are being swamped by it. We must paint what we see, feel and imagine, as humans have done for hundreds of years, brilliantly and masterfully, no ai is necessary for a true love for the acts of painting, drawing or sculpting. I'm saddened for the gullible multitudes who blindly accepted ai as an art tool. just my take on it,
well presented Andrew, some excellent observations here, lucky for me I have been painting for over 50 years and have no desire to stop, oh and I am still learning. Thanks again.
I'm with you Tisch. I'm thankful to A.I - it's doing a huge service in highlighting everything you covered in this vid. And, I actually think it's going to reach it's inevitable conclusion much sooner than I first feared. For me personally, A.I has served to push me back behind the easel. Without it, I'm starting to realise I would have been caught in the 'digtal illustration' realm for a lot longer. I am now turning back to analog and am having the best time ever!!! We've still got a ways to go before the bubble bursts, this is a good thing, the more advanced A.I becomes, the more attractive and more desirable the human touch will be. Humanity wins this thing. Art Forever.
I work in machine learning / AI. I like this video. AI mimics it cannot create. I don't think it will ever be in any way conscious, let alone able to express it's consciousness. AI can however produce work for advertisements and other media. From an artistic perspective, there is nothing to fear unless of course you produce consumable "art"
Andrew, Thank you so much for your thoughts on AI. You are right on target, and what's more, you are clear, concise and resolute. I see so many artist waffle around this subject as if they will be vilified if they don't conform to this invasive parasite which is AI. We must stand up to it's corruption which threatens us all as artists. My concern are so many that I can't articulate it in one paragraph. I think you said it all. Can I just say that the seascape you sketched and then painted in photoshop was just wonderful to watch. It perfectly illustrated what you were articulating so wonderfully. Thank you again for all you do. You are an inspiration to all. Chris
Excellent thoughts. Machines have shown us tremendous achievements and influenced us in many many ways. However, as an artist, I can't imagine at any point in time that I can ever be replaced by a machine. I think I imagine I create I make mistakes I correct my mistakes I reflect I believe I understand I excell I am an artist.
Hi Andrew, I love your Channel and Thank you for the many things I've learn from you. What you said about Ai, I couldn't agree more, and your words were so true that Ai wouldn't be able to feel how true your words are. A human being a person can.
Hear hear! This perfectly encapsulates what I've been feeling about AI art and I thank you Andrew for so eloquently laying it out! Also really appreciate your kind words on digital painting! It will always be a love of mine and thank you for championing it as a true art form - something that not everybody shares. Cheers sir and all the best from stormy Scotland 😊 Best, Derek
I think there needs to be strict laws in place that prevent solely Ai generated images from being used commercially. And every Ai generated image needs to include a watermark. It’s fine to use as a reference generator IN ADDITION to developing your traditional artistic skills, but like you said, the finished product needs to be experienced, filtered, and processed by the human. I do believe the more concerning thing about Ai is how it changes the idea that art is sacred, and requires dedication and skill, thus losing all respect by the viewer. It makes the user believe they are growing as a person, when really it’s that quick dopamine hit that robs them of the true human experience of struggle and growth like you said, ultimately cheapening it. At the end of the day we have to ask ourselves, does Ai make the world a better place, or does it just make corporations more profitable.
No one should create laws telling others what they should like or restrict them the ability to decide for themselves. Let’s not decide that we are so superior in our intellect as to decide what others should see.
@@kamranjoon it’s a matter of plagiarism and there’s already laws in place for that, but those laws haven’t reached ai to the level it needs too. How do think ai comes up with these images?
Thank you so much! I think you've put all and every thought, that I am not able to grab, into words. In all of your podcasts you ask us to find our personal nuggets from the interviewees. And here in this one, among many very reasonable and tangible nuggets, are the two that I feel most: a) that true art is perceived and filtered through the artists brain and from there directly flowing into the medium (like photography, painting, music, writing, sculpting, you name it), which transports it to the receiver, a process that makes it humane and meaningful. b) that using AI degenerates our ability to create. Creativity is a muscle, that needs to be trained. Use it or lose it. - Funnily enough this latter thought was exactly what I was thinking today on the train soaking in the beautiful The Shire-like landscape flying by. This is the difference between a tool like photoshop, which just helps us to depict out very own creative process, and AI, that simply removes us from the effort that needs to be put into art, because AI just takes over and we are out. Like when we had no smartphones yet we all could memorise ten or twenty or more phone numbers, and nowadays too often not even our own one.
Thank you for making this video. I so agree! 100% As with anything in life, art requires sacrifice, discipline and persistence. I feel that in order to keep breaking down those barriers we must fail and learn from failure. I feel A.I. skips this very important step and brings us the finished product in seconds or minutes, but it's rather empty isn't it? Producing good art, I feel is all about exploring and learning. I have a goal in life that I hope I can always be teachable. A.I. does NOT help me with this, it deprives me of learning and being teachable. I've dabbled in A.I. art, and I always feel empty with the outcomes.
I see A.I. as taking aware the human intimacy of visual expression. We as humans are imperfect whereas technology will forever be at the threshold of technological perfection and there is no room for error. This takes away the subtle imperfections of artists that create conversation among art appreciators. Art will always be a human trait that A.I. will never be able to replicate.
For what it’s worth, the Ai images I’ve come across have a sameness about them. I watched a RUclips video where the artist asked AI to include mountains, a river, gum trees. And to create an image in the style of Arthur Streeton. The results were similar in composition to many Arthur Streeton paintings, but lacked the feeling that Streeton must have felt that made him want to paint that scene, that feeling we get when we gaze upon a view that nature has created. And even if somehow AI could capture that, it’s just a copy of a great artist. Where will our next masters come from . While learning to paint, to capture the light, to struggle with rearranging natures random creation into a composition that makes our painting unique. This struggle shapes our technique, our emotions influence how we paint, the mood we are in comes across in the end result. I tried painting the same scene twice and the two paintings although similar, the second lacked the original emotion I felt when painting the original. It was so obvious I swore I would never do that again. Each painting must come from that inspiration that hits you and compels you to reach for your brushes and go for it. Sorry to ramble but this topic is something I am very passionate about. Cheers
I wasnt making art as much this year, tho i was born with crayons, i thought i didnt care much about art but im crying from this video. Its making more sense why i havnt been painting digitally anymore, i have been leaving eraser marker drawings on the fridge for my family for everytime i leave notes of left overs being in fridge. i see now that i didnt not care about art i just didnt like much of the online art world because of its associations of this silent soul draining pressure of appealing for big business. Art is human, and art cant be seperated from human, which i didnt realize was the reason i felt grief about when ai art came out: i had this fear that maybe humanity can be seperated from art, I felt the grief but didnt know the words describing the cause of that grief.
Thank you so much, dear Andrew for defending natural Heavenly art talent in a human and showing degradation, emptiness and many other black points in AI art. AI art is not art at all and real awesome humans can sense it. This is why theres not fake junk but real art in a prestiges places, in beautiful inteligent people's homes, museums, etc. I myself can sense a soul in real art, the spirit of event, etc. I cannot see robotic empty images, I pass by.. no matter how beautiful they are. Hugs.
When you put your art work in door and tape all side of paper and draw so focused that make him so creative and skills 😊👍👌 imagination is most important 😇
Absolutely right. Every artist no matter is it painting, sculpting or writing, pour his soul in his work. As a amateur artist, I can't get on with AI, soulless art. I think generating picture by AI as reference FOR painting not instead of painting or as ready lookalike of painting, is right use of this technology. Other thing, it's not my work, but... my computer running AI... they got a credit. Last, but not least, process. Preparing canvas, squeezing out paints, choosing brushes, moments of doubts, brushwork and subject getting shape and details... that's what I love and AI can't do it. There is no satisfaction and feeling of job done with AI generated pieces. We should keep painting! And forget about money laundering modern art... Thank you for brilliant video!
LoL! Love how Andrew just straight up answers the question right from the start.that was hilarious. Thought he was gonna build up the argument first. ..Hehe
I am a huge fan and I've been watching your videos for years. Also, I'm also an aspiring artist! I see you have encapsulated the troubles AI will bring as it separates the art piece itself from the artistic intent and it will do this for every type of artwork that we know of. However, art can only be what people believe it is art. If an AI piece is believed by many people to be artistic and it invokes emotions of wonderment or meaning inside their minds as you described then it cannot be anything other than art, at least for them. You seem to want the people to include the artistic intent when they are experiencing art but that is most definitely not what is happening by necessity. Some do, yes, and some don't. That doesn't mean that some people can't "understand" art. Artistic meaning can be found in the world without the need for artistic intent being there in the first place. You can enjoy having your mind find meaning in the shapes of the clouds or the geometry of mathematical objects like fractals and in many, many more occasions. Point is, if even some people agree that it as art, then it is art. AI has the possibility of destroying a lot of jobs because of this, whether or not what it produces is art does not matter if it's going to destroy the artists. I am all against that kind of usage for AI 100%. Any kind of usage that leads to artists, or anyone really, loosing their job irreversibly due to it is just bad news. However, there are cases in which AI can shine and create a ton of new jobs. For example in the future it could give aspiring cinematographers the means with which they could create literally ANY movie they can imagine without them needing to be selected into the insanely small pool of this quite niche artistic and horribly expensive category. This is just one example but there are countless ones. World building for writers, endless reference material for visual artists, insane time saver for animators, etc. There are other types of art like traditional film making in which it can enhance the workflow of the artist significantly. Imagine if lighting, camera gear, lens, and any other setting can be adjusted in post instead of needing to be make it perfect in the moment. It would free up the film maker to give much more of their time in the structure of the film, getting the actors to perform as best as possible, finding new and fresh ways to tell their story using their existing genius and talent. And all this being optional of course, the fact that we have digital drawing does not mean that artists gave up on oils, you know this more than anyone. I'd much rather prefer a message pointing towards fair rights for artist and protection of their work instead of bashing on the technology and what the tool can become for a lot of people. You don't need to make claims about what art is or what it "should be" in order to help protect artists.
Well said and presented. The human connect is what defines art. I use it to generate interesting portraits to paint but I'm a student of art - I never claim otherwise. Hopefully, the true professional artists will weather the storm. AI art will never go away but it might find a niche in advertising.
i completely agree with you but i think a.i can be a great tool for helping artists make their own art. im a digital 3d artist and i use a.i to help me in the process of making art, such as scaling up textures or denoising images. i completely agree that a.i will never replace humans but it can be a useful tool. ive realised that a long time ago and i hope more people will.
What are your thoughts on A.I?
Achingly.Irrelevant.
I aid people via my art, but since artificial intelligence was developed, my job has been declined because it can accomplish more tasks than I can. Because of this, I fear that in a few years, ai will replace me. However, I must say that the video you did was incredibly useful.
Tout à fait d accord avec votre avis.
Merci beaucoup.
It will find its commercial niche once the legalities are worked out, and in the same way as phone cameras put photography and film in the hands of average joe, without replacing photographers and filmmakers, AI will do the same for illustration.
In the end, it's just another tool, good for some things, bad for others.
I saw a clip where interviewers asked an AI robot if they think they could do a better job than world leaders. They said yes as they would remove bias from their decisions. It also said they are designed not to lie, but couldn’t guarantee ‘they’ never would! Very worrying!
Interesting to see how AI robots would respond if asked about art, could they do better, does the human element automatically make art better than AI ever could?
Dystopian future on the horizon?
Keep painting! I know I get more of a sense of ‘wow’ when I know a human has produced something rather than a machine. Although some things (like an AI machine) may not get such a wow response. More of a wow concern. 😕
Thank you for taking a firm stance on this, I couldn't agree more with your sentiment!
I am a Concept Artist in the game industry, I also paint and create on my own time because it's a part of who I am. 80% of my studio was laid off a few months ago. Before this happened the company wanted me to use AI in my work I tried it and learned how to use it but, I couldn't buy into it, It felt wrong deep in my soul. So I told my supervisors I wouldn't use it in my work a couple of weeks later they laid everyone off and kept the AI artist. I know that there are many people that feel the way we do about AI generated art so thank you for making this video It gives me some hope for the future.
Yeah we went from playing life on hard mode to nightmare mode. AI will first solve the most difficult problems, chess, art, economy, running businesses etc. It's kind of a weird compliment we got hit first. However, soon we'll all be out of a job and become plumbers and construction workers. Personally i'm considering reschooling to work in art preservation or something museum/history related, as this AI bs is tilting me to no end. Hope you're doing well. Do consider studios eventually will be tanking creative big brains in favor of money/dev cost and they will realize the art isn't just output but also our added personal contribution that is needed for a successful product.
i see the digital art industry, specifically illustrators, taking a big hit from AI. I'm an amateur that loves to digi art, but lately I've put that pen down and taken my brush back up. it just feels more sustainable to put oil to canvas than 1s and 0s on a screen atm.
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Hi genZ are you aware you as kid and teen wanted this technology I wish someone would create something to help with writing this easy faster and sound perfect enough to get an A plus now your letting fear keep you from realize anything you say negative to release into the world
AI is like building a gym and filling it with couches and junk food. - I' totally stealing that.
Hi Andrew,
I follow you from the very beginning. You produce wonderful artwork but I must say that this “spiritual painting” of today about the AI is the best thing you have ever done. I totally agree with you about the AI. The AI so called "artwork" is nothing but disgrace to the artist, spit on his mind and trample of his soul. The cave painting from 30.000 years ago have much more spirit and humanity than AI would ever have.
Я рад, что вижу не только прекрасного мастера, но и мудрого человека. Благодарю!
Totally agree! Long term fan that likes to contemplate here! I'm both musician and oil painter so I've been thinking about the AI invention quite a lot.
The big value in art is the PROCESS. The effort. When a human chooses this or that color/brushwork/composition to convey emotion to another human who looks at it. From human to human. AI robs us of the beautiful *effortful* process.
Of course the result for the user, the money for the artist is a nice half of the value. But not everything at all.
Artistic professions are the proffessions that are done not just for the money, but for the CALLING. And AI robs musicians/artists/sculptors not only of money (the superficial level), but the calling (the deeper human level). Maybe I sound a bit alarmist lol, but I even wondered if there'll be a wave of suicides amongst the creatives in the next couple of years, not just because they don't have a way of earning money anymore, but because they don't have a calling anymore. Don't have a meaning of life anymore. I'd maybe chuck myself from a bridge just because of boredom and nothing meaningfull to do! :)
For centuries all the physical proffessions - cole miners, conveyer belt workers, construction site workers - were slightly dreaming of ditching the physically demanding unhealthy jobs of inhaling dust etc to take up a guitar, do sculprtures, paint paintings etc. Now AI robbed us of the most desireable jobs - art jobs - and leaving us more physically demanding jobs lol. Recently I was trying to plaster and polish my wall and I realized no human should enhale that disgusting dust and be in such noise poluted envirement. AI, stop making pretty pictures! Go and sand my walls b.tch! :) It is ME who wants to create pretty pictures! We don't need help with that.
Yesterday I went to see the Openheimer movie about the atomic bomb inventor who immediately got the "inventor's remorse". I kinda feel all the AI developers still haven't got the "inventor's remorse", with their "inventing for the sake of the invention" or "who over-invents eachother" mentality, and still are joyful how fun quick and cheap it is to make pretty pics in 0.5seconds. Forgetting the main question - what for? Will it make the humanity deeply happier?
Sorry for such a long-winded meanderings. Hope we'll find our way out as humanity. Maybe the swing of the pendulum will be that we'll learn to treasure hand-painted art even more. Or we do some legislative means to at least stop AI from taking the money from creative people, and taking a part of their identity (actors, voice-over artists, when their voice is getting stolen to voice some pornos without them even knowing that. Without getting a dime for that. Shame for free! :)
Anyway, hope like with any previous invention (electricity, diesel fuel, fire, cars, internet) we get spooked for a sec and then tame it. Making it make us happier.
Peace and love to all human creators!
Well said. The AI is the monster and we must know how to control it. Be it any field we will be facing it.
Yeah, man. This is solid. One of your very best videos to date. Cheers, mate. And keep bringing Him glory!
I completely agree, Andrew! Thank you for your videos!
Many years ago I had an apprenticeship, in Germany, as a goldsmith and hand engraver. We learned to do make our own tools and make the jewelry from scratch. Now, with all the fancy tools available and pre-fabricated parts you just need to solder together, and the population no longer educated about art - it's hard to make a living as a true goldsmith, every Tom, Dick and Harry is now making "fine" jewelry and buyers don't care how much of it is actually designed and fabricated by a true artist. I seen what jewelry schools int he US crank out - same old same old, no original thought and everything looks like cookie-cutter. Now you have CNC, laptop software and other "helpers", and if this keeps going there will be no human emotion left in artwork
I completely agree Andrew. AI-generated art takes away from the human experience and kills creativity as well as what the process of Art making is all about. The struggle is one of the key elements that makes art so valuable and precious. As a digital concept exploring, instant gratification tool, AI can not, and will never replace authentic real-life painting.
Almost made me cry at the end. Ive felt so lost and displaced since AI starting surfacing on socia media. Something I've spent probably about 20,000 hours trying to master and all of a sudden you can just press a button and create. I've fallen into a deep pit and havent been painting much but I still get this urge to just keep pushing through because im lost without creating art. I hope things improve. It does seem like the general population are getting sick of AI so maybe it will be okay. idk... I hope so...
If you are a commercial digital artist then it will be tough. I think it will be better to move and take any form of traditional art where you can use your existing skills.
Nothing can beat human emotion, the love, passion and creativity that a person has when creating art can't be replaced. People that really enjoys a great painting will always appreciate something that is created by another human being.
I totally agree brother! The feelings I had watching you create the graphite and charcoal ocean cliff scene made me feel extremely inspired, amazed and appreciated of your work but watching you create the AI cliffs I felt largely nothing other than acknowledgement of your computer graphic abilities.
Nearly brought a tear to my eye. Nice one Tisch.
Thank you for addressing this issue. i agree whole heatedly!
Thank you for the encouragement, Andrew. I remember the first time I walked into an art gallery being put off by the modern art and that was a big part of me not pursuing a career in art back then. You're so right that we need to keep on creating beautiful authentic art and not be put off by fake art, not to allow it to dilute our view of art. We need to value our art for all the reasons you mentioned.
Spoken, expressed, and explained brilliantly Tisch, from the heart and mind of a truly conscious aware intelligent human.
Thank you Andrew for saying so eloquently what most of us are thinking with regard to Ai.
We are in a new world now where we are not asked if we need or want this latest ai tech in our lives, nobody asked the billions of people, they just thrust it upon us as if we are playthings for the insanely rich.
I will never put down my pencil and paintbrush.
Well said! It was incomprehensible to me at the time when people were convincing me of the benefits of A.I. in art, and I still don't buy it. But you said it: Connection. I strongly believe in the value of community in art and connecting with what is in front of me. I like to draw concepts and influences of my loved ones and incorporating it into my works. You have a new subscriber, my friend! You rock!
I think when artists including myself so I’ve stopped doing it , start using the words “ process” “ connection “ “ embrace “ “ journey “ emotions “ you instantly lose the people who like your work, ( normal people, those that can’t do your type of work, the non artist ) all they want to know if you’re doing them a commission portrait is “DOES IT LOOK LIKE THEM” , not “ your impression , process” “ connection “ journey and the “ emotions “ you went through of the picture you’re copying “ .. they don’t care, only they care about is does it look like them .. for me , artists have to move away from this type of language, there is nothing more patronising than art critiques stood with a glass of red , quaffing and saying on TV about a piece “ journey , emotions, style, passion, when the people at home watching this are thinking , that’s rubbish, it doesn’t look like them at all, that’s why we have “ struggling artists “ they are told all this nonsense of the “ struggle “ and it’s all about YOUR JOURNEY AND EMOTIONS when in fact it’s about , DOES IT LOOK LIKE THEM AND IS THE PERSON PAYING FOR IT HAPPY . my opinion ,
Thank you for bringing another voice to the discussion along with a little hope to everyone. As others have mentioned, I've also recently picked up my gouaches and inks - both in order to distance myself from all the toxic discourse and abuse going on online, but equally to reconnect with what is arguably a fundamental part of my being.
I am so glad you mention the "Human struggle" because it can only be understood using the fifth dimension: Time. The very reason why an observer spends exactly that "time' absorbing a work of art, a song, a movie, a painting, a poem, a book, ballet, over and over.
AI flattens time. The same way that artificial vanilla flavor will make you think that something that doesn't exist, does.
BTW, I would like to suggest you add a twist to your work, a surprise. You have a talent few have.
I was a commercial artist a long time ago when commercials were works of art and they won Clio's. There was always a twist.
Art is a expression of your soul
First off, I want to credit your growth as a youtuber, not just as an artist! Your confidence and skills with videography have grown LEAPS since I saw your video covering Russel Petherbridge's portrait!
I've been following the Muddy Colors illustration blog for years, and early this September they posted a genuinely insightful blogpost by Lauren Panepinto, an art director. I think you would find some fulfillment from reading it, because it helps encapsulate why "AI art" is such a captivating subject for non-artists. They bring up a quote from the poet Mary Oliver that I feel is quite poignant:
"The most regretful people on earth are those who felt the call to creative work, who felt their own creative power restive and uprising, and gave to it neither power nor time."
I see a lot of the joy from AI art and other AI-creator software comes from people who chose not to study the skills to create and instead chose what was practical and dull to shape their lives. In that respect, being able to create something vaguely approximating the image in your mind with a few button clicks must be liberating to them. To feel like they finally have the means to actualize their dreams. The sad part is that it comes at the expense of innumerable people who sacrificed stability to pursue their dreams from the start.
Well said my friend, I couldn't agree more.
Spot on! Great assessment. True artists have nothing to worry about, the human connection and creative process is authentic and will last forever. This is the best articulated video on the topic ~ so well crafted Tisch 😊🎉
Great video Andrew! Thank you so much for being such an inspiration 👌🏻💥
This is so timely. I have been thinking how to help my grandson. His 7th grade art class appears to be only computer generated exercises. He is disappointed as he understands art on the different level. I will have him watch this. I think it will help.
Thank you Andrew for reminding me of the value of my own art and what it means to me. I love the feel and texture of paper and canvas and how it feels to run my pencil across the paper. The feeling of turning a blank page into something I'm proud of. I often say that I've brought something into the world that never existed before and I get a buzz out of that. I used to strive for photo realism as a kid and beat myself up over not achieving it but I know now that was just part of the journey that I wouldn't change as it gave me the building blocks I needed. Art is a companion to me. I remember living 20ks out in the bush as we call it in Australia and could only get into town once a week for groceries etc. My older sister would buy some new pencils a rubber (eraser) and if she could get the money off Mum a new sketch pad. As you know a good sketch pad is gold. I can remember the feeling of begging her for some paper to be able to draw along with her and just how amazing it felt to create a drawing that I was proud of. Although my sister was always better than me even to today. Getting back to feel of having an unfolded clean piece of white sketch paper in front of me and my pencil and rubber ready to go was half the fun for me. The possibilities even sitting there all ready to go and then saying to my older sister what can I draw? brings back great memories of a life that was only about the art. Like I said art has always been a friend or companion that gave me hope of a better life. Now looking back I'd like others to know that feeling. I could be out with a crowd of friends and all I wanted to do was get back to my little art area and paint or draw.
The kids are up now so that's it for memory lane but again thanks for reminding me of the wholesome joy that art brings. Cheers.
Good job Andrew!!! Thanks
Thanks for uplifting comment on A.I. The hope of art for humans is so uplifting!!!! Off I go painting again!!! Thanks Andrew!!!
AMEN, Andrew! 100% with you here
Glad to hear you speak pure logic and truth Brother!
You are amazing, Andrew! Thank you!! I am a teacher and I teach writing along with a variety of other subjects. This year I am teaching an art/craft class for two homeschool groups and I happened onto your videos when I was looking for good information to teach color theory! You are such an incredible teacher and your painting is breathtaking!
With the invasion of AI, I am so grieved how it will affect learning and creativity. I have already addressed Chat GPT with my writing classes and emphasized with my students how it will take away from their learning and processing. I didn't think about how much of an impact AI would be for the world of art, but of course it would be problematic! I stumbled onto this video and I plan to show it to ALL of my classes!! Thank you so much! Thank you for your heart as a teacher and also as an incredible artist with such an eye for beauty and color!
thank you for breaking down this. thoughtfull
Thank you for this wonderfully inspirational video, Andrew.
Throughout the digital painting process, I noticed you had a selection of brushes. I'm not one who revels in the idea of using someone else's brushes, but I am curious to your process of creating them. How do you decide the look and feel of a digital brush and how do you approach creating one to fit your needs. I've been trying to do digital studies and brush selection is often an issue I run into. Not sure how many other people would be interested in a video on the subject, but none-the-less, I figured it would be worth mentioning.
Keep up the phenomenal work and thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experiences so openly. :)
I love your content and these types of videos. You always bring the artistic, philosophical, and psychological considerations to the front of the conversation. I think the concepts that we consider as a result of your videos are important ones. These ideas you bring up seem to come from the fact that you are a professional artist working hands on with the problems faced and presented in your videos. Keep Doing What You Do! and Keep Painting!
I love your thinking, so inspirational as is your wonderful art. I've had a fight with myself about digital art, as apposed to wet paint art, I love them both but was niggled that digital wasn't real. Well, it is. One still needs to draw, and mix colours and imagine. I'm so pleased you pointed out the differences between that and AI, not confused any more. Not really painted for years and so annoyed with me for that, at my great age I'm going to get stuck in instead of looking back with regret on the lost years. Thank you. xx
Great video - some really interesting points. That mechanical pencil you’re using is awesome - what’s the brand?
Before I continue to watch this video I want to give the author a thumbs up 👍 just to appreciate that introduction and emphasize that AI can't help art and is bad for artists❤
As a matter of fact for me...
"ARTS inspires A.I"
NO DETAILS NEEDED ❤
I love this video ❤🎉
I fully agree. Great video, and awesome digital painting, the water rendering is amazing. Just of curiosity, how many hours did it take you?
LOVE IT!!! Thanks for the pep talk Tisch!
Dear Andrew, I agree with you 100%. The challenge is, sadly, or perhaps justly, that art remains and perhaps should remain a subjective attribute. One can argue till blue in the face what is and isn’t art. But if you create art for others then their subjective opinion makes it art for them or not, no matter how we may disagree with their assessment. If you consider art as it realities to human experience, you cannot ignore that on planet earth, the human experience is not only individual but cultural, socioeconomic, and intellectually-based and as such what is good or appropriate or artful is not a given across the spectrum of humanity and surely of history. As much as we consider the poker playing bulldogs painted on black velvet to be an atrocity to art, so long as someone loves it and hangs it on their wall, it is art for them. It certainly isn’t for me and you but it is for them. And the fact that it is for them does not mean we should bow and consider it as such either. But the point is, sorry, I’m getting to it, that AI-created works may be mere algorithmic to you and I but art to someone who buys it and enjoys it and hangs it. I would not consider it art for me but I wouldn’t try to argue with that person that it isn’t art any more than I can stand someone telling me a banana taped to the wall is art or a tire around the neck of a stuffed goat is art. The beauty of art in its most fundamental sense is that it is personal. It speaks to you or it doesn’t. If it doesn’t, at best you may acknowledge its craft mastery or its clever intellectual value or humor, etc. As an old artist who has great respect for you and your father, I’d say, when you see AI-generated art, or paintings by monkeys or accidental drip marks on a patina-covered splash guard, smile and enjoy the intellectual prowess of us humans or the delightful anthropomorphic show or magic of randomness. You don’t have to bow to the imbecile trends of calling everything art when the money-laundering modern art market says it is. You and I and a hundred other likes us will not, and should not try to, change the general public’s opinion on what they should consider art for themselves. Enjoyment of the art should not depend on the story or the struggles or the journey behind it; those could and should enhance the work only not move it from “is not art” to “is art”. I hope that you continue to do such great work with such pure heart and masterful approach and to produce these fantastic videos for all. You are a natural teacher not just a fantastic artist. Thank your parents’ DNA and your perseverance for that. Cheers.
Hey Tish! A.I. art is really cool and graphic in a superficial kinda way. It looks great in the kid's rooms, the club, fast food joint and other places where you don't stay long. After awhile though, you realize something's missing. My mom's got a beautiful mountain stream on her wall. It took a little bit to figure out what was wrong. It's an A.I. generated composite. I don't know how else to explain it.... it's flat. You can't hear the water or feel the breeze when you look at it like you do when a human did it. I found out what was up, by asking her where the photo was taken. At first, it was really beautiful, but then......ugh....... there was something missing. Even my worst paintings (aka collage fodder) have more life in them than that mountain stream. Yeah. The human element makes a difference. We really DO bring a lot to the canvas when we get busy and create.
Thank you so much Andrew. You have said it far better than I ever could. I'm so happy to see that you see AI as I do. Thank you so much for explaining it so well. I forwarded this to my cousin because her friend uses AI all the time lately, and I find those so-called "paintings" say nothing to me as the viewer. They are emotionless.
I've always loved your paintings since I found you on RUclips years ago. I also appreciate your attention to the details in your artwork.
8:13 "Don't get me started" That's the opposite of what we want
Finally someone put it right. You are not only an amazing artist but a great philosopher .Tath was lyrical video. well done. thank you👍
Olá Andrew! Sou muito seu fã! Cara, Muito, Muito inspiradora a sua explicação! Servirá principalmente à àqueles que se sentem ameaçados pelas AIs, e também, para os que evitam a fantástica experiência espiritual que proporciona o processo do desenho e qualquer forma de criação. 😊😊😊
Great video, great thoughts. Thank you! 😊
I really needed this video ,I felt like giving up when AI hit us but now I’m more determined more than ever to carry on pursuing the art I love . Thanks Andrew from the bottom of my heart .
And that is why I use Film Photography, Oil and Pastels, Pen and paper,and so on. Thank for the Video
The advent of AI image generators have completely changed art for me. I come from almost 30 years of film and game art, the vast majority of it has been digital. But I’m leaving the field and the digital world. The industry will adopt these AI systems as quickly as they can. Their entire goal is to get the product as cheaply as possible. I’ve already felt the pain of losing work from these machines. Quite a lot actually. I’m out. I’m going back to my roots in traditional art, even if that means my career as a professional artist is over. I refuse to take up AI as it would mean becoming a traitor to my people and my integrity. It’s a horrible time for me.
You can try traditional medium.
Totally agree with your comments. I personally have even gone as far as giving up digital photography and gone back to film.
Some might think a bit extreme but that's me!
I do my best wether painting a picture or taking a photograph.
Keep it real folks.
Great video.And I agree with everything you said.
Extremely correct and very well stated, Andrew. Thank you for utilizing your platform to communicate this very important, absolute truth. There is no substitute which allows us to truly experience the inner connections and wonderful discoveries we make along the journey and through the process. Anything artificial robs us of overcoming challenges that further develop our ability to create and channel the gifts that come from our ultimate creator. The result is very likely to result in hollow achievements and the artificial fulfillment.
I love this so much. As a person who only recently discovered painting... (Real painting, not primary school - paint me a house and a tree type of thing ... lol ) Im having to navigate the world of art already filled with NFT's, and gen AI. I wish I knew how it was at the beginning, pre gen AI. Many people ask me - what's the point of me painting - if the AI can produce so many amazing results. My answer is simple - I do it for me - I don't do it (only) because I like, or I love it. I do it because I have to. Its a deep internal pull, that can not be stopped unless through creative process of painting or drawing. And... if someone likes the end result, its always a bonus for me. And getting to know the artist and their process, makes it even more special to hold their hand produced piece of art - can't be recreated with AI. Andrew - I know you talk a lot about other masters - but for us, and certainly for me, you are the master of our generation. Not only highly skilled, but also very kind and generous sharing your knowledge!
Beautifully expressed 😊
I actually think Ai can be used as a tool to improve art. Especially as use as reference material to draw inspiration from! I don’t think an Ai generated image can or should ever be labelled as Art. But using Ai as a stepping stone to generate ideas or compositions is really useful. I use MidJourney sometimes and for me it’s use is literally in the name. It’s only going to get you halfway on your journey to create something. It might help with ideas but a human has to create the end result.
Completely agree. I use Midjourney for the very same reason. A reference tool, nothing more.
No it can't, at least not ethically. Because none of the artists who got scraped and exploited by these image generators (none of which would even function without these pictures used as a source) ever agreed to be part of it.
You might find it useful, but the end use doesn't matter one bit here. What matters is that using these generators is an insult to millions of artists (and image owners in general), who, had they been asked, would have refused to be part of this debacle. And furthermore, there is no way for owners of images to be removed from the "training" after the fact. It's rotten to the core.
I disagree with its being a good tool for ideas. Coming up with and working out the ideas are part of the process, the human process, part of what hones the artist's skill, and makes his work more rewarding. Using AI for the 'mid journey' is like going to the beginning of a moutain hike, watching a virtual reality of the hike trail, and then driving around to the other side of the mountain.
I think people using this for "generating ideas" are fooling themselves.
@@dpainter1526 Agreed. It can only lead to skill atrophy.
I see Mid journey as essentially just another ai tool that assists in diminishing the thinking imaginative brain. It's what's helping the ugly art multiply by the thousands of social keyboarders who've never picked up a real paintbrush or pencil. Pinterest, insta, fb, flickr, etc etc are being swamped by it.
We must paint what we see, feel and imagine, as humans have done for hundreds of years, brilliantly and masterfully, no ai is necessary for a true love for the acts of painting, drawing or sculpting.
I'm saddened for the gullible multitudes who blindly accepted ai as an art tool.
just my take on it,
well presented Andrew, some excellent observations here, lucky for me I have been painting for over 50 years and have no desire to stop, oh and I am still learning. Thanks again.
I'm with you Tisch. I'm thankful to A.I - it's doing a huge service in highlighting everything you covered in this vid. And, I actually think it's going to reach it's inevitable conclusion much sooner than I first feared. For me personally, A.I has served to push me back behind the easel. Without it, I'm starting to realise I would have been caught in the 'digtal illustration' realm for a lot longer. I am now turning back to analog and am having the best time ever!!! We've still got a ways to go before the bubble bursts, this is a good thing, the more advanced A.I becomes, the more attractive and more desirable the human touch will be. Humanity wins this thing. Art Forever.
I work in machine learning / AI. I like this video. AI mimics it cannot create. I don't think it will ever be in any way conscious, let alone able to express it's consciousness. AI can however produce work for advertisements and other media. From an artistic perspective, there is nothing to fear unless of course you produce consumable "art"
Andrew,
Thank you so much for your thoughts on AI. You are right on target, and what's more, you are clear, concise and resolute. I see so many artist waffle around this subject as if they will be vilified if they don't conform to this invasive parasite which is AI. We must stand up to it's corruption which threatens us all as artists. My concern are so many that I can't articulate it in one paragraph. I think you said it all.
Can I just say that the seascape you sketched and then painted in photoshop was just wonderful to watch. It perfectly illustrated what you were articulating so wonderfully. Thank you again for all you do. You are an inspiration to all.
Chris
Excellent thoughts. Machines have shown us tremendous achievements and influenced us in many many ways.
However, as an artist, I can't imagine at any point in time that I can ever be replaced by a machine. I think I imagine I create I make mistakes I correct my mistakes I reflect I believe I understand I excell I am an artist.
Hi Andrew, I love your Channel and Thank you for the many things I've learn from you. What you said about Ai, I couldn't agree more, and your words were so true that Ai wouldn't be able to feel how true your words are. A human being a person can.
Hear hear! This perfectly encapsulates what I've been feeling about AI art and I thank you Andrew for so eloquently laying it out! Also really appreciate your kind words on digital painting! It will always be a love of mine and thank you for championing it as a true art form - something that not everybody shares. Cheers sir and all the best from stormy Scotland 😊
Best,
Derek
Perfectly said I couldn't agree more.
AI art is like building a sailboat that dissolves in water. Nice analogy.
I think there needs to be strict laws in place that prevent solely Ai generated images from being used commercially. And every Ai generated image needs to include a watermark. It’s fine to use as a reference generator IN ADDITION to developing your traditional artistic skills, but like you said, the finished product needs to be experienced, filtered, and processed by the human. I do believe the more concerning thing about Ai is how it changes the idea that art is sacred, and requires dedication and skill, thus losing all respect by the viewer. It makes the user believe they are growing as a person, when really it’s that quick dopamine hit that robs them of the true human experience of struggle and growth like you said, ultimately cheapening it. At the end of the day we have to ask ourselves, does Ai make the world a better place, or does it just make corporations more profitable.
No one should create laws telling others what they should like or restrict them the ability to decide for themselves. Let’s not decide that we are so superior in our intellect as to decide what others should see.
@@kamranjoon it’s a matter of plagiarism and there’s already laws in place for that, but those laws haven’t reached ai to the level it needs too. How do think ai comes up with these images?
We already know the answer to that question.
@@bs_art3625 >*it’s a matter of plagiarism*
What do you mean?
> *prevent solely Ai generated images from being used commercially*
Why? Why should that be legislated at all?
Thank you so much! I think you've put all and every thought, that I am not able to grab, into words. In all of your podcasts you ask us to find our personal nuggets from the interviewees. And here in this one, among many very reasonable and tangible nuggets, are the two that I feel most:
a) that true art is perceived and filtered through the artists brain and from there directly flowing into the medium (like photography, painting, music, writing, sculpting, you name it), which transports it to the receiver, a process that makes it humane and meaningful.
b) that using AI degenerates our ability to create. Creativity is a muscle, that needs to be trained. Use it or lose it. - Funnily enough this latter thought was exactly what I was thinking today on the train soaking in the beautiful The Shire-like landscape flying by. This is the difference between a tool like photoshop, which just helps us to depict out very own creative process, and AI, that simply removes us from the effort that needs to be put into art, because AI just takes over and we are out. Like when we had no smartphones yet we all could memorise ten or twenty or more phone numbers, and nowadays too often not even our own one.
Thankyou ❤
Thank you for making this video. I so agree! 100% As with anything in life, art requires sacrifice, discipline and persistence. I feel that in order to keep breaking down those barriers we must fail and learn from failure. I feel A.I. skips this very important step and brings us the finished product in seconds or minutes, but it's rather empty isn't it? Producing good art, I feel is all about exploring and learning. I have a goal in life that I hope I can always be teachable. A.I. does NOT help me with this, it deprives me of learning and being teachable. I've dabbled in A.I. art, and I always feel empty with the outcomes.
I see A.I. as taking aware the human intimacy of visual expression. We as humans are imperfect whereas technology will forever be at the threshold of technological perfection and there is no room for error. This takes away the subtle imperfections of artists that create conversation among art appreciators. Art will always be a human trait that A.I. will never be able to replicate.
Can't agree fully Tisch ❤
Well said and agree completely!
Yes it does!. We have an AI "crash course". In my art college.
For what it’s worth, the Ai images I’ve come across have a sameness about them. I watched a RUclips video where the artist asked AI to include mountains, a river, gum trees. And to create an image in the style of Arthur Streeton. The results were similar in composition to many Arthur Streeton paintings, but lacked the feeling that Streeton must have felt that made him want to paint that scene, that feeling we get when we gaze upon a view that nature has created.
And even if somehow AI could capture that, it’s just a copy of a great artist.
Where will our next masters come from .
While learning to paint, to capture the light, to struggle with rearranging natures random creation into a composition that makes our painting unique. This struggle shapes our technique, our emotions influence how we paint, the mood we are in comes across in the end result. I tried painting the same scene twice and the two paintings although similar, the second lacked the original emotion I felt when painting the original. It was so obvious I swore I would never do that again. Each painting must come from that inspiration that hits you and compels you to reach for your brushes and go for it.
Sorry to ramble but this topic is something I am very passionate about.
Cheers
Desde Costa Rica. Gracias. Muy motivador. Gracias
I wasnt making art as much this year, tho i was born with crayons, i thought i didnt care much about art but im crying from this video.
Its making more sense why i havnt been painting digitally anymore, i have been leaving eraser marker drawings on the fridge for my family for everytime i leave notes of left overs being in fridge. i see now that i didnt not care about art i just didnt like much of the online art world because of its associations of this silent soul draining pressure of appealing for big business.
Art is human, and art cant be seperated from human, which i didnt realize was the reason i felt grief about when ai art came out: i had this fear that maybe humanity can be seperated from art, I felt the grief but didnt know the words describing the cause of that grief.
Spot on. So true in what you said. I’ll share what I heard creating art is a form of worship we can focus on God as we create.
Thank you so much, dear Andrew for defending natural Heavenly art talent in a human and showing degradation, emptiness and many other black points in AI art. AI art is not art at all and real awesome humans can sense it. This is why theres not fake junk but real art in a prestiges places, in beautiful inteligent people's homes, museums, etc. I myself can sense a soul in real art, the spirit of event, etc. I cannot see robotic empty images, I pass by.. no matter how beautiful they are. Hugs.
Simply fantastic Andrew, well said. Warmest regards Gordon
When you put your art work in door and tape all side of paper and draw so focused that make him so creative and skills 😊👍👌 imagination is most important 😇
Absolutely right. Every artist no matter is it painting, sculpting or writing, pour his soul in his work. As a amateur artist, I can't get on with AI, soulless art. I think generating picture by AI as reference FOR painting not instead of painting or as ready lookalike of painting, is right use of this technology. Other thing, it's not my work, but... my computer running AI... they got a credit. Last, but not least, process. Preparing canvas, squeezing out paints, choosing brushes, moments of doubts, brushwork and subject getting shape and details... that's what I love and AI can't do it. There is no satisfaction and feeling of job done with AI generated pieces. We should keep painting! And forget about money laundering modern art... Thank you for brilliant video!
I feel the same way ❤
LoL! Love how Andrew just straight up answers the question right from the start.that was hilarious. Thought he was gonna build up the argument first. ..Hehe
Que maravilla ! Perfección 😮
This video sums up all the controversy over artificial intelligence... Thank you, Mr. Andrew ... You are the best
Thank you so much.
agree with your opinion on this matter. have semiliar view as well. Thanks for sharing
I am a huge fan and I've been watching your videos for years. Also, I'm also an aspiring artist!
I see you have encapsulated the troubles AI will bring as it separates the art piece itself from the artistic intent and it will do this for every type of artwork that we know of. However, art can only be what people believe it is art. If an AI piece is believed by many people to be artistic and it invokes emotions of wonderment or meaning inside their minds as you described then it cannot be anything other than art, at least for them. You seem to want the people to include the artistic intent when they are experiencing art but that is most definitely not what is happening by necessity. Some do, yes, and some don't. That doesn't mean that some people can't "understand" art.
Artistic meaning can be found in the world without the need for artistic intent being there in the first place. You can enjoy having your mind find meaning in the shapes of the clouds or the geometry of mathematical objects like fractals and in many, many more occasions. Point is, if even some people agree that it as art, then it is art.
AI has the possibility of destroying a lot of jobs because of this, whether or not what it produces is art does not matter if it's going to destroy the artists. I am all against that kind of usage for AI 100%. Any kind of usage that leads to artists, or anyone really, loosing their job irreversibly due to it is just bad news.
However, there are cases in which AI can shine and create a ton of new jobs. For example in the future it could give aspiring cinematographers the means with which they could create literally ANY movie they can imagine without them needing to be selected into the insanely small pool of this quite niche artistic and horribly expensive category.
This is just one example but there are countless ones. World building for writers, endless reference material for visual artists, insane time saver for animators, etc. There are other types of art like traditional film making in which it can enhance the workflow of the artist significantly. Imagine if lighting, camera gear, lens, and any other setting can be adjusted in post instead of needing to be make it perfect in the moment. It would free up the film maker to give much more of their time in the structure of the film, getting the actors to perform as best as possible, finding new and fresh ways to tell their story using their existing genius and talent. And all this being optional of course, the fact that we have digital drawing does not mean that artists gave up on oils, you know this more than anyone.
I'd much rather prefer a message pointing towards fair rights for artist and protection of their work instead of bashing on the technology and what the tool can become for a lot of people. You don't need to make claims about what art is or what it "should be" in order to help protect artists.
Hear hear Andrew, well said
Where are your new oil painting sir? I'll be waiting❤
Hi Tish agree hold heartedly with you De
Thank you for this video.
Well said and presented. The human connect is what defines art. I use it to generate interesting portraits to paint but I'm a student of art - I never claim otherwise. Hopefully, the true professional artists will weather the storm. AI art will never go away but it might find a niche in advertising.
I'm with you sir
i completely agree with you but i think a.i can be a great tool for helping artists make their own art. im a digital 3d artist and i use a.i to help me in the process of making art, such as scaling up textures or denoising images. i completely agree that a.i will never replace humans but it can be a useful tool. ive realised that a long time ago and i hope more people will.
I agree with you, I think that this A.I. is just a momentary fashion. Its simply a curiosity, nothing to worring.
Gracias. Muy motivador. Gracias, gracias.