The Sabbat Worlds Crusade! The Near Disaster Of Ambold 11 And The Mystery Of Fornax Aleph
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- With the Warmasters ambitions for operation Newfound stymies by chaos fleet forces, his political enemies see an opportunity to take credit for themselves! As the alternative plan for the invasion of the Sabbat Worlds, dubbed the Centerline assault, gains ground faster then the warmasters northern pincer. But it is not without challenges of it's own! As over eager Imperial Guard leadership leads to near disasters and the Iron Snakes risk losing three full companies to warp machinations.
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20k men to take a hive city that usually house billions 40k is always funny when it comes to numbers.
I agree in principle,but they were supposed to have three companies of space marines with them and not all of the IG forces had arrived either.
You also have to notice that even in a “traitor” hive, the underhive usually has billions of loyalists waiting to a moment to strike. Also the crusade force has orbital weapons. The same way how chaos can take over a hive city with 20,000 traitor guardsmen. In your average “loyalist” hive there are billions of people who would spend their lives to overthrow the government.
It really is who has the guns in space, the ability to make a rallying strike and control the plebs.
Arch First and Only!
Hell/Warp yeah!
Straight Silver!
Sure as sure.
For the Archmaster!
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Chaos Lord of Ambold 11: "Hah! Let those Imperial lapdogs call on all the reinforcements they want, we have them where we want them now!"
Adjutant: "Sire, dire news. The next episode is being animated by Syama Pedersen."
Chaos Lord: *"By the gods..."*
Love the Sabbat Worlds Crusade. A billion Guardsmen for less than 100 worlds and continuous reinforcements to keep the strength up. It's much better than the usual 40k numbers.
You know, with the level of tactical competence these guys are displaying, I can't help but think there must be some mysterious gentlemen in scaled power armor somewhere in the background.
Probably a representative from the Silver Skulls
@@magosryzak7477 I believe his name was Allerius? ......Alphonse? Al Pacino? Alphwhattshisface I forgot exactly.
@@Rawkit_Surgeon no, no, no, it was clearly Alfabusa, this I remember clearly XD
@@Karelwolfpupnah if its scaly itd be Karl the Deranged that loony bin escape artist
@@shrubby-ov4yw ha! true XD
Your Vraks meme is held to be true.... "Over eager Amateurs inside dedicated fortifications can cause ....issues."
"Dylan! You son of a bitch!"
*most epic handshake ever*
The Yajuta would be an interesting Xeno to add to the 40k setting
The Sabbat Crusades have been going on in the background in a lot of the novels I've read. It's cool to have the strategic situation laid out
Yeh, it's basically the background setting of the gaunts ghosts novels.
Never thought the crusade as a whole would be brought out like this.
'The enemy of a good plan, is the dream of a perfect plan.' - von Clausewitz
'The enemy of a bad plan, is the dream of a good plan.' - 40th millennium
Have enjoyed learning about the Sabbat worlds Crusade. The mega size military actions are one of my favorite parts of the Warhammer lore. And how Arch adds extra context with logistics is just the cherry on top.
Ambold 11
30 days after landfall.
Just after noon
Cadian: - fires his last round of his lasgun- I'm out!
Squad: Took yer long enough yer miser, been usin' my pickaxe fer days!
Krieger: (concurs in gas mask)
Tech priest: Prediction: I believe we will face the Omnisiah today for the enemy is getting closer.
The guardsmen look in as a mob of heretics lunge towards them.
Krieger: ( happily affixes his bayonet)
Cadian: Well gentlemen, after all these years it's been an honou-
A loud sonic boom shatters the windows as a drop pod smashes into the ground, disgorging a squad of Intercessor marines.
Space Marine: Fear not, guardsmen! We're here to assist you!
Krieger: ...( stamps the ground angrily in gas mask)
This is pre-gathering storm; Intercessors didn't exist yet outside of Cawl's laboratories. You got; Tactical, Devastator, Assault and Terminator marines plus Scouts to pick from...
20 thousand men gone, plus all of their ships, all of their equipment bar a singular tank, no signs of combat, spilt blood or even that they were ever there apart from said singular tank... this requires further theory crafting so Arch I would like to see a theory video on The Mystery Of Fornax Aleph, as it is extremely interesting in trying to figure out what exactly happened there, apart from well the obvious statement, Chaos did it.
Before the chaos reveal, I would have thought this was a Dark Eldar opportunistic attack, maybe a carnival of pain.
@@otaviolobo7989 the issue is however, the Dark Eldar would of left signs of a battle, someone would called over the radio, someone would have barricaded themselves inside a Hab Block and forced a fight, this is why it's so interesting, because not a singular blood stain, weapon impact, corpse or even wreckage, apart from that one intact tank with a calcified hand in it, was found, and not just that the entire naval contingent and the transports were also gone, with the Iron Snakes finding or believing to have found, a ship that threw itself into the the sun.
So whatever happened to the 20,000 is making me intrigued, unless Trazyn rocked up, saw 20,000 guardsmen, plus ships and tanks, and decided he needed to begin his Sabbat Worlds Crusade exhibit with these men and material, so unless thats what happened this requires further theory crafting.
@@thegrandnope7143 You didn't watch Arch's video on the Dark Eldar? An Haemunculus did exactly the same thing. He sent his forces, conquered the planet, kidnapped everyone, AND THEN, repaired everything, removed EVERY SINGLE TRACE of evidence, damage, bloodstain and hair strings from the floor before simply leaving the planet.
This fits the situation here to a perfect match. Hell, the Haemunculus covens even have an weapon that calcifies its targets (read osseficator), so what the heck?
But yeah, beyond that, I do wonder how Chaos pulled this off. I mean, I hate how "uniform" and "standardised" Chaos Daemons are in tabletop terms where each of the four gods factions are monotone. It limits imagination to a degree.
At same time, by not limiting chaos to certain rules, its nigh impossible to theory-craft on what could have happened from a daemon/warp fuckery pespective as basically anything goes with them. Calcification can be anything from Tzeentch to Slaanesh's doing, which is strange considering Khorne is the main god among the anarchs.
also 20k guys with a few tanks and light air support at best is a very good reason why I like to highlight that 40k is pretty damn weak for it's size since a hive city with all that pop being garrisoned with 20k sounds insanely low let it's apparently a threat in this setting just saying
@@marley7868 honestly that's why I follow Archs doctrine and add another zero onto everything, so instead of twenty thousand guards men, a few hundred tanks and a few hundred aircraft, instead its two hundred thousand men, a few thousand tanks and a few thousand aircraft.
Gotta love Arch leaning into his Inquisitor persona.
One of David Webers' favourite sayings, 'Planets can't dodge'
He is a hell of a good author.
Him,Steve white,John Ringo. There's more but I can't remember there names.
Dodge this you filthy casuals!
*27.000 Guardsmen lost*
Lord Commander Zuehlke: Them's rookie numbers, here let me show you how real Guardsmen are supposed to die!
*Excited gas mask noises*
“Eager Amateur” seems to describe General Dylan just as well as it does his Chaos adversaries.
27:10 To be honest, I don't think the Imperial navy considers having a sense of self preservation as a desirable trait for ESCORT captains! :D
Infighting can be just as disastrous as an external enemy, if not worse, where it's best to ask the right question, in this case it's not "How did the enemy win?", it's actually "How did we lose?, there's a big difference.
18:36 - (monotone) All hail the Ultrasmurfs Successor Chapter.
Emperor's Spears and Iron Snakes are the only 2 ultrasmurf descendants on my favourite chapters list... mainly cause they're non-codex compliant (they often have the best reasons for not adhereing to that book) though for the Emperor's spears it's also cause they're celtic in theming and also cause they fight alongside the Black Templars and the Celestial Lions in Imperium Nihilus
I’ve seen a lot of people stealing Arch’s artwork. It annoys me because these are the kinds of people that would denounce Arch for ‘tism reasons.
Just hate ‘em.
Goddamn it who did it this time?
@@otaviolobo7989 Probably that bundle of sticks, Majorkill
+@@FilmGuy7000 + Hasn't MajorShill done that before?
@@otaviolobo7989 I have seen Arch's stuff on many other channels. Every time I do its an instant block from me.
I have a habit of putting on lore readings when i go to sleep, and last night i was blackout drunk and somehow even tough i could barely walk and think, i open this video
and slept to it. this morning i watched it again while i was trying to recover from my hangover, warhammer is life.
Wouldn't the Space Marines have their Librarians who ought to be able to tell if psychic nonsense is happening?
That feels like a bit of a pull on the author's part.
To play the devils advocate, none of the other psykers (Astropaths, Navigators, and whatever other psykers that may have been part of the army) noticed anything either, so there most likely wasn't a clear clue. You know, aside from _a planet and Hive that has no people in it_, which some might argue is a damn obvious indication that some warp related fuckery is afoot. That or Necrons. DEldar at least tend to leave some kind of a calling card, the sadistic knife-ear bastards...
I am no iron snakes expert so this may be non applicable to their chapter, but I do know there are a good number of Space Marine chapters that just don't have Librarians at all. Plus it's possible the warp storm disabled the few they did have or maybe the chapter had Librarians but they just weren't deployed with those three companies? Though I do agree, this did scream bad news long before it bit anybody.
I'd argue that the threat wasn't warp related at all. Rather, more mechanical in nature.
The Iron Snakes absolutely do have Librarians. Librarian Petrok being a very note worthy one from the Iron Snakes book.
@@drascalicus5187 From what I understood about the Librarians, is that they act more like advisors to the fighters. They could fight, as well, but they work better as support.
If you keep showing off all this gorgeous pixel art, I'm gonna start expecting an epic story-rich indie game based on your lore videos.
That was a very elaborate trap. What rituals would be used to set that up? Did they have any idea what they were actually doing? Hopefully Abbadon never thinks to copy their work.
That sounds like heretic questions.
Failbadon is busy crashing irreplaceable superweapons into planets
18:45 and this is why they are called his angels. They are sent by his guiding hand to save the faithful.
17:00 he could’ve been there to figure out what was taking so long. Recent conflicts in our world have sent generals to their graves rather suddenly. For the same reason.
I've never heard of the iron snakes before.
Whoever their genefather is, he is certainly very proud.
They're descended from the Ultramarines though apparently they are not codex complaint so I don't know about how proud girlyman would be...
@@LitD I mean, Rowboatman himself has said that the codex was more like a guide than a rules set in stone (fucking Leandros), so I guess hearing that they stopped, saved thousand of guardsman as if it was no big, then we're capable of holding the attack of an uncountable horde of deamons on a desolated hive world, I think he would give a well deserved thumbs up.
@LitD Well if you know how he reacted when he came back, it's safe to say that he wouldn't be disappointed with them at all. If anything, the Ultramarines themselves were the actual disappointment being that they showed literal flexibility. And yes, I'm damning them for how they fucked Captain Uriel Ventris. Smdh
I remember reading somewhere back then that they could well be loyalist Alpha Legion, or Omega(gon) related loyalist.
Hey minor error in your video Arch, you keep referring to Archon Nadzybar as The Anarch, which is Anakwanar Sek’s title.
The Iron Snakes captured the Pilsbury Civitas and killed the Archon Pilsbury Doughboy.
Again and again, I am amazed by how far the graphics for these have come from the first of Arch's videos I watched. Fantastic stuff, hat is off to your artist, good sir. Although... the image of the giant Iron snake in the background there reminds me of an image of the Blood Raven's Chaos-tainted Chapter Master from DoW2's Ending cut scene for some reason.
Still, I am loving this series. I still have most of the Gaunt's Ghosts books, and I love getting a broader picture of the Sabbat Worlds Crusade to stick their adventures in.
This is so good Arch, I feel like I need a cigarette after listening and I don't even smoke
What a horrid comment
@@rustys.1070 Tell me you don't have a sense of humour without telling me you don't have a sense of humor.
Smoking is a bad habit ok, it’s not good to encourage ppl to smoke
@DarkVeghetta "humour" tell me you can't own guns without telling me you can own guns
You know you don't have to be a hall monitor all the time right?@@tsudagenam6292
Golden babycakes. Gimme more to listen to on repeat with the others. This shit makes listening to music at work a lot better to interrupt the audio every now and then.
We appreciate u, I believe it goes without saying. The logistics, the storytelling I feel like I'm in military school learning about past wars. Thank you.
Oh, that badab music is back, neat!
"...just in case something interesting happens."
Ah yes, the attitude required for those of us in the Inquisition really is different from everyone else.
It’s really cool to see how the channel has evolved over time, the active background is really cool, keep up the excellent work!
Fantastic to hear from you tonight, from up hear in Newfoundland
Awesome! I watch these on the TV with a Margarita. Perfect end to a long ass work week.
I hope Arch makes a Gaunt's Ghosts video for this series.
They are kinda important for the crusade. They will be covered, Im sure.
Gaunt himself has already appeared so I imagine we will see the rest later.
I dont comment a lot but god dammit arch I love you man, ive been watching your content (often several times a video) for like 10 years. Im joining the patreon.
Just what I needed...
...my fix of Lore from Arch.
Cant wait for more installments of this campaign. Thanks for this arch.
The badab war music playing was a nice surprise lol
I don't understand, I prayed really hard but my enemies are still there!
You are not praying hard enough.
You pray harder, you find others and make them pray, then make them pray harder!
@@guyincognito1406god you sound like my dad😂
@@guyincognito1406in 40k that could possibly work.
Another fine edition to the archives.
That war for badab music...
Just in time for dinner too!
Arch, I really need to know. What's the background song that plays at 31:40 ? It's been puzzling me since you started the Badab War series, and I really really want it!
It sounds like an ambient drone created with a Roland Aria1 , amazing drone machine for 200$
Once again, these videos make me happy
“Any remaining triggers” I believe this is what we call foreshadowing.
Awesome video ARCH
best lore mAn on the tube
Thank you, we all know GW is awful , but damnit this setting is too much fun to walk away from. Glory to Arch christ, who died for our sins and rose again
Eff GW. What's important is that we all enjoy this and that Arch enjoys making lore-vids :)
keeps me going. liking it
Your lore videos and style are top notch!
> Have been touching themselfs while dreaming...
Seriosly?
Just wanted to point out that the playlist seems to be in reverse order. ;)
FOR ARCH! FOR THE ALGORHYTHMIC GODS
Love this series!
I as a lowly interagator could have to imperial crusade command as much about that planet
Thanks Arch.
Like with vraks
I think the imperium’s politics is going to be a determinant for the campaign
Thanks 😊
Fornax *ALEPH.*
Win the war? Naaaah. What's important is making your rivals look bad :p
I'm very confused on why Generals are in command of space vessels. The guard don't even do combined arms regiments but yet Generals are commanding whole space/ground battlegroups.
I would think that they aren’t, obviously every general staff would have an navy liaison acting as the in-between, maybe even someone of equivalent rank handling fleet movement and combat.
I'd chalk it up to GW not understanding military command/structure again.
The penalty for losing the pre-crusade Guard-Navy football game was that the navy admirals listen to what the generals tell them.
FYI Your Sabbat Worlds Crusade playlist is not in order.(unless its just on my end o_o)
Loving the series so far, but why is the playlist being put in reverse order?
So, let me make sure I understand...
Orbital battle stations, bristling with weapons, targeting sensors, layers of redundant shields, and acres of armor, and designed for zero other reason than to make incoming enemy fleets regret their life choices and stop them cold before they get anywhere near the target planet, are really just short-ranged speed bumps that practically any task force with even a halfway decent commander can more or less pick apart with impunity if he isn't horrifically pressed for time.
Ground-based laser defenses, though, like the ones ringing the citadel of Vraks, added as a vanity project by a forgotten governor of an industrial armpit world more to break the tedium of managing a glorified warehouse than any other reason, which have to fire through an atmosphere and compete with the infrastructure needs of a hive ? _Those_ are an existential threat to any warship that pokes its nose over the horizon, which is why the Navy couldn't bombard the hive and the Guard had to bleed its way forward on the ground.
Make it make sense.
For point 1:
A task force will have torpedos which can be fired at maximum range on a stationary, huge target. More of a target practice competition than anything else. There could also be a nova canon on one of the bigger ships of the fleet, which if i remind you fire pretty much miniature...well...supernovas at a target. On their own a station lacks the range as it will mostly have lances, cannons and maybe a few of it's own torpedo launchers for which you'd have to turn the entire station to use. Highest range weapons would then be fighters/bombers which the station can't cover. A ring of fortifications also including mines and maybe even more rare defences can hold of assaults for a long time like the iron cage in the war for badab, but they need mobile elements to draw in the enemy mobile elements. As Arch said: the attacker can withdraw if damaged, the fortress sits there and maybe bolt on new plates where it was hit.
For point 2: To get a ''good'' firing solution you have to get within range of said defences on a planet (orbital lasers, missiles or fighters/bombers from airfields) which are then also protected by voidshields (especially as it was a not insignificant warehouse) within in this case the main fortress where everything of value was. Especially in the case we talk about the imperial forces where also pretty much on top of the target and no one wants to hear that they just took out a company of ALLIED soldiers cause they missed their target by a few kilometers (so a hairs width in void terms) cause they thought that they could get their hands on the stored armament as it was ''just a small rebellion of a single world which was led by a priest''.
Very into this new pixelated style!
One of your best, now make it in rat version best best
Waiting for more Trench Crusade lore.
Time for lore and recaff
Friendly pronunciation advise from a native English speaker, stimied is pronounced with the sty in pigsty not like the stim in stimulation "sty-mied" 😊
Only in death does duty end.
I don't think you'd need the Inquisition to tell there is fuckery afoot under those conditions. But apparently I am wrong.
As always a ripping good yarn.
20:30 My only problem with this whole part. A HIVE CITY that only has 26,000 troopers, even press-ganged civilians, those are critically underwhelming rookie numbers for a Hive City PDF, that's like less than 1% of a "Chaos Controlled" populace manning 2 distinct curtain walls... Did the Space Marines only destroy a single Hab block and then call it a day?....... While I understand that is a very Dark Angels thing to do, I remain convinced this was another Cogitator missing a few zero's.... This is almost as bad as the Space Sharks turning half a hive city into a volcano and still somehow found staunch if not effective mortal resistance.....
Love the vud, but the eight bit animated gif is distracting.
Def prefer the old school art.
Could someone please recommend a good reading list to understand the Sabbat Worlds' Crusade? Much appreciated.
@Arch Can you update the Sabbat playlist please? I don't know much about it so don't know what order the ones not in the playlist should be put in. Thank you.
Gaunt's Ghosts series covers a large chunk, the two Urdesh books, Titanicus and a couple others that I'll edit into this if I find them
oh yes here we Go!
Maybe we should all just give up and join chaos to avoid unnecesary bloodshed
20:33 God damn, would you look at that Librarian Armor! That's some of the sexiest shit I've ever seen. Unlike Arch, I do enjoy the Primaris design, but the old armor did have character. If they weren't so incompetent, GW would add things like that skull snake, or the hood fangs to the new stuff. (chapter specific of course)
Fantastic work as always, sir. However, I am distraught by the numbers of the story. 20,000 men to secure a hive city? Quite laughable. As usual the writing is one perhaps two orders of magnitude short.
With allies like these who needs enemies?
This is only getting more & more interesting
Nice to see the complete depopulation by of a Hive World by Chaos will not stop repopulation drives. Thanks for the video.
It's a little bit early Arch
Next time say nothing 😂
to warmaster slaydo
my lord
WARP FUCKERY!
Let's Go!!!!!
It always amuses me, within 40k universe, when I hear that 20 000 men were third of a force designated to take a planet, especialy hive world. In 40k, guard begin relatively low tech, rely-on-numbers force, we should be talking about millions and billions every time we discuss things like planet invasions. This is not critique of Arch, just pointing out this flaw in the lore, that really breaks imersion for me. That begin said, some campaings and authors do better job (Armegeddon, Vracks) than others in this regard.
Little bit of math just for fun:
We have to assume hive world population begin in 10b+ category given what we see today on earth. Even for plantes with smaller land mass/hostile enviroments, for hives to emerge, population density must be a major concern, that drives vertical building and crowding into hives. For major hive worlds, pop numbers are probably in 50b+ category (Though I consider 500b of Ichar IV not possible within 40k context, this is not dyson cloud setting, and grain transport trough void is nonsensse)
If we go with lowball figure of 10b people on hive world, and assume chaos begin able to control it for relavively short time in case of Sabbat worlds, we can estimate, they can reach some 2b people with their messaging and propaganda (esencially only begin present in major hives, and convincing/coercing 50% of population there to do their bidding). Now lets assume, only 1% of these people are willing to fight for their new gods, that still means there will be 20 MILLION cultists on the hive world. If the guard wants to play it safe, and given the dificulties of urban(hive) combat, we can assume they would bring usual 5:1 overwhelimng force, meaning we get 100 MILLION guardsmen in 20 THOUSAND regiments doing the assault.
And if you think that is absurd, consider WW2, that in this setting would be planetary civil war, not even involving all of the countries, where some 120 MILLION men were mobilized in total, and around 60 MILLION people died (including civilians)
Modern war is hell
War in 40k would be worse
Sci fi writers have no sense of scale is a trope for a reason.
Nice 😎
Hey blunt swords can still cut 😂
For the algorithm!
How do you spell the name of the chaos fleet?
V'heduak
@@ondrejsedlar7003 thank you, I was nowhere near close with my attempts
Sabbat worlds and Anarch naval forces.. hmm............
Let's go
A comment for the algorithm
Algorithm comment, praise Arch.
man the same thing happened again SM saved their asses they really are incompetent
Comment for the comment god
Yay