Zoids franchise is underrated, it needs more attention so Takara Tomy can take notice and perhaps it'll encourage them to make a new series targeted to the old fans.
Amazing designs they've been around since the 80s. The only thing missing here is the original lore not being brought to mainstream media like TV or OVAs. They did release a few anime series but they don't seem to be part of the original lore. Compare that to gundam where there's different universes and timelines, chief among them is the UC timeline.
You are very right about the fragility of this model, though- this was the fourth HMM model designed (before Repackage Ver.'s were a thing), and it really shows with its structural design flaws. Later Zoids definitely improved with their frame designs (although Ligers typically work better anyway), although it seems in general Kotobukiya polycap quality is dubious at best in the long-term.
Most defiantly, once you glue what you need to they are really solid. I've found it best to just play around with it and glue whatever comes off until everything stays on
I always loved the HMM booklets for all that detail! The concept art is great, especially if you have the old motorized Tomy kits, so you can see where they loaded all that detail into the new versions. And they very likely reused the old photos in the instructions at the end there, although to be fair the old Tomy kits also came with sticker decals, and those never really had a guide either aside from some examples on the box art. Generally, the old Zoids kits were meant to be decaled-up by the end user as they saw fit, rather than by adhering to any guide. Adding on the fact that HMM kits are meant to look hyper-detailed even without decals, it's not a huge deal that they wouldn't recommend a specific decal scheme for their kits.
I have a bunch of the repackaged version kits and I don't bother with the water decals either, they're a pain in the ass to put on anyways and some of the kits I will not touch unless absolutely necessary.
I open his youtube channel everytime I'm building my kit. It felt relaxing listening to his review while building. I'm pretty sure I watched all his video without I'm realizing. Lol
theyre amazing to look at however the fragility of these things is definitely one of my biggest gripes when i was a kid. yes these were my first kits. idk what my dad was thinking but yes i was very happy having them regardless :D
About fragility (for any newcomer watching this guide): I just dropped my HMM Geno Breaker (esentially this kit with a new backpack), and while it exploded no piece broke. Putting it back together was oddly relaxing (only after I checked no piece broke, of course lol). Other than that extreme case, the kit is rock solid.
It's kind of like that with any of those kits that have that "tyrano" type design with the internal cords. I've had to rebuild by Genobreaker a few times. Glueing it in some places helps alot.
Having built an RG Zeta and a bunch of HMM Zoid kits, I'd disagree. HMM Zoid kits have their issues when handling them largely because of all the stuff designed onto them. You'll see the occasional weak body part connection during articulation of the kits, but its the sharp-bits or canons that give the user hassle. With RG Zeta, a pure hand-grenade of a kit, its a nightmare to do anything with it. Its a pain to disassemble. Its a pain to paint. Its a pain to articulate. Its a pain to transform. and. And. AND a pain to even pose without disaster. The worst I get out of an HMM kit is a liger leg falls off. A Genosaurer waist will disconnected. A loose canon will fall off. A liger claw or tooth with nick me a tad. But, it will stand without issue on a counter for the many years you leave them in that one pose you like. The same can't be said of the hand-grenades that just get worse and worse over time on the shelf, like RG Zeta.
🤣 I know right? My Genosaurer I described and an overpriced over complicated over fragile glorified Gundam!And despite that I’ve also got Gun Sniper Naomi, I’m building (on hiatus) Great Saber, and I want Storm Sworder.
Patrick Leslie If you want one where you only need a little glue, I recommend the hmm liger zero, in the manual it tells you where to glue with symbols
Get the newer one because they usually are better than the older release. This Genosaurer mold is made back in 2007, I just build the Berserk Fuhrer(2012) and it's a MUCH better kit
Had to make sure but yeah the asymmetrical top gun is used by the prototype used by the rival in chaotic century the symmetrical one is used by the mass produced ones
Ah Zoids, now THIS is a topic I’m familiar with! Over the years I’ve amassed a huge collection of them from wimpy little Molga all the way up to King Gojulas and even a couple HMMs. On the whole…I’m not really a fan of the Kotobukiya Zoids. I’ve always been a fan of the simple but impressive elegance of the originals and the fact that they do more than sit there and look pretty, the “real” Zoids actually move, they’re motorized in some way. I have this kit, it’s impressive as hell and made for a hellish but awesome challenge as my first ever Kotobukiya kit.
100% agree with you! The motorized or even smaller clockwork Zoids moved , crawled, and generally did so much more than todays static models that need person to "Articulate" give me break! My MAD THUNDER (with variable speed spinning horns of doom) will march on toward these do nothings and turn them into plastic powder.
I'm a huge Zoids fan too but I'm on the opposite side, I prefer the Kotobukiya kits over the Takara ones although I do want them all so in the end I just love Zoids.
Currently in the process of building this one. It's my second HMM model, and it's actually pretty well! Just finished the tail. But, my God.... The tail was a PAIN. I'm glad I dine with that section. Other than that, it's looking pretty cool!
I don't have this kit yet but I want it, I do have the Repackaged version of both the Geno Breaker and Burserk Fury. I do have to replace the Geno Breaker due to my previous landlord assulting me with the box after I had started building it so a lot of pieces are missing, which pisses me off since it was like $180 to get. However the Fury surpringly has amazing joints and is very stable. The kits I have are the regular Shield Liger and the DCS-J model which I thought I'd have a bit more issue with since I had the LIger Zero previously(need to replace since that was also broken by a former roommate prior to the landlord situation and it turns out it was a bootleg anyways). Then I have the Gun Sniper W2 repackaged ver, the guns make it a little bit unstable and it feels very fragile but still good, I have the Lightning Saix repackaged as a replacement of an older one which sucked so I was expecting it to also suck but it didn't, then the Pteras Bomber repackaged(that needed glue on a lot of things and i will not move it unless necessary), the Iguan repackaged ver, the Rev Raptor repackaged, the Fang Tiger(ironically has the best joints), the Dark Horn(has the worst joints feels the most fragile will not move unless necessary), the Storm Sworder(another old kit that needs replacing, I got the original not the repackaged version and it shows), and Braad's Command Wolf(I absolutely hate hate hate the joints since the back left leg does not stay on at all, I plan on replacing it with the repackaged version hoping it has better joints). I do have a ZA kit for the Murasame Liger plus a few Takara kits mainly the Hayate Liger, the Mirage Fox, and 3 of the 1/144th scale ones in the Shield Liger MK-2, the Hammer Rock, and the Great Saber, then I have 5 used Hasbro kits with the Shield Liger, the Sledge Head, the Venomous Viper, the Raynos, and the Rev Raptor. Out of them all the ZA Murasame, and the two Kotobukiya HMMs the Burserk Fury and the Fang Tiger were the best ones to build since the joints gave me the least problems and they feel the sturdiest out of them all.
To be fair, Kotobukiya does include a section at the beginning of the instruction booklet suggesting you use an adhesive. The Lightning Saix had some sections where it was essential that parts were glued.
Not so I've had two LIghtning Saix kits, the first was the original, the second the repackaged version. The original did require a lot of glue but that was because I didn't have the proper tools and I was rushing through it, the second repackaged one I got this year did not need any glue at all and is pretty damn sturdy overall, I can certainly pick it up without worrying something will fall off and I can repose it and "play" with it without issue. It's just about taking your time, not rushing, and have the correct tools and for the most part glue isn't needed.
@@darkhelliadarkfire6109 I'm just referring to sections in the manual like part of the foot assembly where it specifically directed you to use glue. With the kit having swappable claws, it directed you to glue the outer halves of the feet so the claws could be swapped without the feet coming apart/ All in all the Repackaged version went together very nicely without glue and it's a solid build. It doesn't take away from the fact however that the manual suggests using glue for a more sold build . Not sure what you're disputing here.
I'm really happy to see more people reviewing Kotobukiya's HMM Zoids models because they seriously need more recognition as some of the best kits around. I'm hoping that one day they will make more kits because there are other Zoids like the Konig Wolf and Gairyuki Fury that desperately need this. I've already pre-ordered the Geno Breaker Re-package and can't wait for its release this upcoming November :) Thanks for sharing this with us!
This one looks cool. I was into (mostly BL) zoids before I got into gunpla. The best I got back then was the LeoBlaze from Zoids blox. Anyways, I hope they make the Spinosaur in HMM. That one looked really good.
I buy both model kits an action figures and I've seen a few people here on RUclips that don't seem to understand the difference. *cough*Mechagaikotsu*cough* model kits even the best ones aren't nearly as sturdy as action figures. the model kit you reviewed in this video fell apart a few times which is to be expected of a model kit. but if that happened to an action figure then that would be a big QC problem, action figures aren't suppose to fall apart simply by you handling them. when it comes to model kits you are the Quality Control, you're the one that has to fix those problems. if there's something about a model kit you built that you don't like then you should fix it. some people don't understand this though.
To be fair to Mecha, he straight up tells you he's reviewing them as they are out of the box mostly because even the most horrible model can be made into something amazing with enough time, talent, and work. I'd also argue that the line between action figure and model kit is becoming a bit obscured seeing as Bandai goes through so much effort to emphasize good articulation and range of motion (just look at the RG line and the recent MG kits). Even the more recent Koto Zoids kits like the Sturm Tyran have some good range of motion and hold up well without the need of glue to stabilize them.
You definitely got a point, in Mecha's videos the line between action figures and model kits is kinda blurry. However, in his first review of a Zoid HMM he gave the kit a positive review even though he said that he used a lot of glue to fix it (which he doesn't normally do for his OOB reviews)
I totally disagree with "us" being the quality control.. You're protecting Kotobukiya too much... You're supposed to be satisfied with these types of model kits from the get go... These aren't like Warhammer Model kits where you have to paint and glue together (well at least now they have kits that don't need glue). I have kits from Bandai (SD/HG/MG etc) and Kotobukiya (I have this Geno repackage, Blade liger repackage and even Megaman).. I've also seen other reviews of this kit or just Kotobukiya's kits reviews in general.. Koto and Bandai's quality are worlds apart.. Kotobukiya kits are NOTORIOUS for falling apart because they are using an ancient style of engineering/ designing.. In this day and age, if you're going manufacture kits that are meant to be articulated, wouldn't it make sense to design it so that it doesn't fall apart when the consumer articulates it?? Bandai improved their kits, they listened to their consumer just look at their RG line.. When that line started it, it just crumbles as you touch it (I have the GP01 FB, man I wanted to throw it away when I assembled it LOL).. Bandai has improved their RG line ever since... Meanwhile in Kotobukiya's side, since they know that people will buy their kits regardless, they just don't give a crap about improving their engineering to be at least on par let alone be better than Bandai... I mean it's working, I have their kits even though I know that their quality isn't as good as Bandai's so there's that LOL...
@@fantastiCkiLler92 Why I don't get is why Kotobukiya can't make their kits as good as Bandai is. I mean in terms of plastic quality and construction integrity. Sure Kotobukiya is good on model details but I won't spend money on a grenade that explodes every time you pose it. Plus they're so expensive compared to Bandai so I expect a better quality kit. Does it have something to do with intellectual property thing or its just a hubris? "Oh model kits are supposed to be glued like this and that. It's not a LEGO!" Things like that.
I love Zoids and the design of the HMM models but I gave up on them for a couple reasons. 1) They were uber expensive until these repackaged versions came out 2) Lots of them are insufferable hand Grenades that fall apart wayyyyyyyyy to easy (I'm looking at you Gun Sniper Leena Special). 3) The builds are unnecessary long even though I loved building them I gotta admit some parts are just like why? I will probably buy some in the future just cause how much I use to love Zoids and they are such amazing display pieces but for now my priority are the new Digimon Figure Arts Amplified Kits
Darn you, I was getting away from these kind of things, and now I need to make a diorama of this fighting a couple of Japanese type 74 tanks, and support infantry.
Is there meant to be some random extra pieces that don't get used or did my idiot self miss those steps at some point reading the manual 😆 Pieces G 9, 11 & 15 & Z2 3
I'm kinda scared to try building a zoid at this time, so I'll wait to do so until I know I'm ready to do so; what scares me is the possible skill level to build it.
these things used to be cheaper when I was a kid LOL. Still have most of my old battery operated zoids. you should get the Genobreaker zaku. It's the upgrade of the genosaurer
Definitely unrelated, but I hope you get around to that Megami Device Asra Nine Tails kit behind you soon. I have mine still in the cellophane, but I'd love to see a review from you of it.
This is supposed to be one of the more fragile ones so pretty much as expected :) seems cool! And holds its poses well enough so far! Seems weird to me that its more expensive than the beserk fuhrer though, that one is a fair amount bigger....guess the armaments are a bit simpler so maybe thats the reason?
The reason the Beserk Fuhrer isn't more expensive is because 1) its not as iconic as the Geno Saurer and 2) even though it's bigger it doesn't have more armaments and the joints are far less prone to popping off plus it's a relatively newer kit.
Awesome model kit! too bad Gundamstores web site is trash tho, when you type in "zoids" it always comes up with zords 😂 than the menus wont work.. wow. Great review tho!
Yeah... as mentioned, zoid kits can’t be sold there or any other US retailer because of licensing. But they’re gracious enough to support me sharing a product with you guys (even one they can’t sell) just for the review to be out there as a resource for the community. But yeah trash website and all I getcha
@Mr. LHD6 he got it from them, because they played favorites and they wanted to get noticed.. But they wont sale to anyone else or just dont sale zoids.
Hi I got a question one of my friends is building the geno saurer he lost the one of the parts of the backpack the gun and he likes to know where he can get it online here in the United States
I’m not sure if Kotobukiya has any part replacement services in the US. Best bet would be to contact the shop he bought the kit from and they might be able to help.
I still have the TAKARA TOMY of this one, got it in 2001. The motor and led lights is still working but the fuse for the motor that made it run slower gave out. So now my geno saurer is now walking at a fast mode 😂....
Love the design of this kit but it 100% needs glue. Built up the Bone color ver and it was a nightmare to even touch without gluing allot of the body, tail, and arm sections. It is a seriously good looking kit though and I have some good ideas for a couple of customs I can make with it.
The problem that this kit has is understandable because it is indeed the 4th kit in the HMM line. I expect the Geno Breaker has the similar issue which I want to get. Just ordered the HMM Berserk Fuhrer and can't wait for it.
It's in the box, there's a "repackage ver." in the front of the cover. The content is the same expect the repackage ver. got more decal and marking I guess
My friend has this kit and it fell apart on him, I looked into it and yeah same verdict, unstable design, but I do have the death stinger and it was pretty solid, maybe it was just the older designs of saurer kits that suffered, interested to see how the hmm berserk furhrer will build *wink wink
oh dear god, @zakuaurelius what about that pg unleashed? seems like nothing really outstanding, BUT THEN............................................... hahaha cant wait to see what your thoughts are on that one, man
Yeah, the actual retail price is actually pretty understandable because it's a kotobukiya kit and not bandai. But damn the price on the market tho, the reseller just pump it up a lot
Are you talking about the reseller price? If so yes, fucking expensive when I looked at the Berserk Fuhrer.....and out of stock everywhere. The MSRP isn't that bad tho...
@@wastedsoul1024 If you want to reinforce it you could drill the centre of the peg with a pin vice and insert a bit of brass rod with super glue, that should stop it snapping. As far as the BL zoids kits go, I honestly wouldn't bother. The BL Liger I built needed every single peg hole re-drilling and the plastic was brittle as hell. If you're determined to get one, check out the Supernova ones, the plastic quality is decent and they're original designs, not cheap mold rips.
Are you telling me that this expensive pile of plastic bits and bobs doesn't have a battery operated articulation engine with lights and integrated weapons? So you are paying for a static model that you can articulate...??? That's not the Zoids I grew up with! The Zoids in my day (of MAD THUNDER VINTAGE ) ALL had either battery powered engines or Windup Clockwork motors ...that showed their fantastic articulation of cogs , gears and pistons as they moved, brandished active weapons , opened jaws, spun their horns , flashed lighted eyes and all in all were beautifully made models that were powered to show just how much detail and work had gone into their movements and actions. But now you are paying big money for a static Model that you advise to glue some parts of it because they don't hold...despite not even MOVING! Geez people...seems people accept a lot less for their money these days ~
@@ZakuAurelius, yes...it is ...they are Model Kits...but the original Zoid model kits that started this genre that 40 years later continues to delight and interest so many...goes from strength to strength. But EVERY single Zoid model kit that started, began and seeded the Zoid Franchise way back then ...were self articulating Models that either through Battery engines ...lights and integrated pistons ,movements from tail to neck to jaw and horn or windup clockwork Zoids that crawled ,hopped,slithered etc etc ... From THE MAD THUNDER ZOID ...down to a clockwork Seashell/ Hermit Crab ...they began the Zoid Revolution and inspired it to be what every Zoid aficionado collects and builds and when complete takes pride of place and is displayed and proudly showing one and all what they created...and made from whichever Zoid model kit or kits they have now made which is their Zoid Collection ...and which will continue to grow as new Zoids enter into the ranks as each year goes by . The Zoid Progenitors that began it all ...which moved about and and made each and every one of them... The Founding Zoid Father's of all what and which so many enjoy as they build and make the franchise what it is today . Moving parts ,functions and other powered features DO NOT make the first founding Zoids a kids toy...they were Model Kits with more to offer that made them what they were and what they " did" Which was enough to make them found a line of Zoids that grew to become what they are today. Not a kids toy each and every one ..but model kits that make a Zoid and it's proud Maker Display what he has built and tells the World look upon this Masterpiece Just finally finished and mounted this very Day, My Zoid , my opus ,my passion is here for all to see and Stay, I'm proud of what I've made so join my cheer and shout with me Well done ! Hip Hip Hooray! Yes. But for the price that now most many must and gladly Pay , Why not their Pride Achievement ,move legs as weapons twirl ,as other lift up and down whilst other side to side their mighty weapons as tails on many Sway?? All make and made a Zoid not toys to delight and which each were never not for any child to play ... These Models ...Masterpiece moving and much more than inert models so fine on stand Display... True Ligers go where each was meant to go ...not Stay. These Zoids built to hunt and destroy whatever was their Prey. The first Zoids all which moved and did their each and every spin move,open close ...each Way... Inspired and made the Zoids all love. ..what they are Today. And ask those first ones each and every single one were active Black or White ...and none were ever static ...for Zoids no zone is Grey.
For serious building! (To hide that I’m wearing the same shirt in multiple videos in a row because I record them on the same day but posting them on different days makes it look like I wear the same shirt for a week)
The, "it's a model kit", defense doesn't work as well when you have the advances in kits we've seen in the last decade. They were lazy/cheap and reissued old kits without updating any of the issues. Kits that fall apart like this, shouldn't be this expensive. I don't need it to be a toy, but I would like to be able to touch it without it exploding. I have this problem with a lot of Kotobukiya stuff. It seems incredibly over priced for what you get.
@@wawan1562 the kit is fun and looks gorgeous, just like the video, it can barely play with, the jetpack is heavy. Only for the old kit, seems like the new repackage one have fixing some issues. U can try it.
@@wawan1562 i dont have it, u could watch video about that, but I bet it is not a bootleg one. Its like other third party manufactures doing great stuffs
Its a great model and all but thst tiny joint connecting the main two body parts is very badly designed. Thats where Super Glue becomes your best friend.
you cant excuse a kit by saying "oh, bandai is just too good, so you people get spoiled" if bandai its the best, then thats the standar, so if they are charging so much money , they should be held to the same standar
@@ZakuAurelius 2 things 1 that was your excuse for a kit that falls apart 2 i cant count engenering, cuz its a reprint and falls apart, i can only count prodution cost, and bandai has the same or similar costs, and yet you can buy 1 or more same quality kits or better, for the same price
@@ZakuAurelius as a building kit, zoids are fun, plus the newer ones dont have the same flaws and are more affordable, so i know they can do better, the old kits are unexcusable and only recomendable if you are a fan or you realy like the looks (wich i do, soon i will get a blade liger)
Zoids franchise is underrated, it needs more attention so Takara Tomy can take notice and perhaps it'll encourage them to make a new series targeted to the old fans.
Amazing designs they've been around since the 80s. The only thing missing here is the original lore not being brought to mainstream media like TV or OVAs. They did release a few anime series but they don't seem to be part of the original lore. Compare that to gundam where there's different universes and timelines, chief among them is the UC timeline.
You are very right about the fragility of this model, though- this was the fourth HMM model designed (before Repackage Ver.'s were a thing), and it really shows with its structural design flaws. Later Zoids definitely improved with their frame designs (although Ligers typically work better anyway), although it seems in general Kotobukiya polycap quality is dubious at best in the long-term.
Aside from this design being old, Kotobukiya's plastic quality and engineering are sub par.. I still bought this and the Blade Liger though LOL..
The original kit is almost 17 years old
With Zoidss HMMs it's best to glue anything that doesn't need to move. When you do that, they're usually rock solid.
Most defiantly, once you glue what you need to they are really solid. I've found it best to just play around with it and glue whatever comes off until everything stays on
I always loved the HMM booklets for all that detail! The concept art is great, especially if you have the old motorized Tomy kits, so you can see where they loaded all that detail into the new versions. And they very likely reused the old photos in the instructions at the end there, although to be fair the old Tomy kits also came with sticker decals, and those never really had a guide either aside from some examples on the box art.
Generally, the old Zoids kits were meant to be decaled-up by the end user as they saw fit, rather than by adhering to any guide. Adding on the fact that HMM kits are meant to look hyper-detailed even without decals, it's not a huge deal that they wouldn't recommend a specific decal scheme for their kits.
I have a bunch of the repackaged version kits and I don't bother with the water decals either, they're a pain in the ass to put on anyways and some of the kits I will not touch unless absolutely necessary.
Love your plamo reviews man. Concise, precise. Edited, which is easy to the eyes. And oh Lord, relaxed. Stay this way man.
Yes! I agree with relaxed. No excessive and frantic shouting.
Thanks y’all
I open his youtube channel everytime I'm building my kit. It felt relaxing listening to his review while building. I'm pretty sure I watched all his video without I'm realizing. Lol
theyre amazing to look at however the fragility of these things is definitely one of my biggest gripes when i was a kid.
yes these were my first kits.
idk what my dad was thinking
but yes i was very happy having them regardless :D
the Geno Saurer in this color scheme reminds me of Trypticon's robot mode from the Transformers series, lol.
Everybody loves Raymond
That's what he reminds me of!!! Thanks that was bugging me lol
About fragility (for any newcomer watching this guide): I just dropped my HMM Geno Breaker (esentially this kit with a new backpack), and while it exploded no piece broke. Putting it back together was oddly relaxing (only after I checked no piece broke, of course lol). Other than that extreme case, the kit is rock solid.
Great point! 👍
It's kind of like that with any of those kits that have that "tyrano" type design with the internal cords. I've had to rebuild by Genobreaker a few times. Glueing it in some places helps alot.
@@duyas1628 Yup, I had to be very generous with glue for the Breaker. Neither my Command Wolf nor my Storm Sworder required extra work.
100/100 hand grenade without glue
Having built an RG Zeta and a bunch of HMM Zoid kits, I'd disagree.
HMM Zoid kits have their issues when handling them largely because of all the stuff designed onto them. You'll see the occasional weak body part connection during articulation of the kits, but its the sharp-bits or canons that give the user hassle.
With RG Zeta, a pure hand-grenade of a kit, its a nightmare to do anything with it. Its a pain to disassemble. Its a pain to paint. Its a pain to articulate. Its a pain to transform. and.
And.
AND a pain to even pose without disaster.
The worst I get out of an HMM kit is a liger leg falls off. A Genosaurer waist will disconnected. A loose canon will fall off. A liger claw or tooth with nick me a tad. But, it will stand without issue on a counter for the many years you leave them in that one pose you like.
The same can't be said of the hand-grenades that just get worse and worse over time on the shelf, like RG Zeta.
🤣 I know right? My Genosaurer I described and an overpriced over complicated over fragile glorified Gundam!And despite that I’ve also got Gun Sniper Naomi, I’m building (on hiatus) Great Saber, and I want Storm Sworder.
I’ve been thinking about snagging one of these HMM kits for awhile now. This is reinforcing the urge to buy one.
Patrick Leslie If you want one where you only need a little glue, I recommend the hmm liger zero, in the manual it tells you where to glue with symbols
Get the newer one because they usually are better than the older release. This Genosaurer mold is made back in 2007, I just build the Berserk Fuhrer(2012) and it's a MUCH better kit
6:02 There’s a fly on my thumb.
I see you have been keeping up with the memes.
Haha there literally was in the video! At least it wasn’t stuck on there for over ten minutes
Awesome model! I remember watching Zoids when I was younger. Brings back good memories. Have a great day!
Had to make sure but yeah the asymmetrical top gun is used by the prototype used by the rival in chaotic century the symmetrical one is used by the mass produced ones
Awesomeeee, thank you and please continue to do Zoids kits in the future :)
I love how much of a blank canvass HMM Zoids kits are. They're fun to paint.
Man i love your review. I am getting this kit this February
Some glue and some mini magnets wouldnt go astray on this kit, great review
Ah Zoids, now THIS is a topic I’m familiar with! Over the years I’ve amassed a huge collection of them from wimpy little Molga all the way up to King Gojulas and even a couple HMMs.
On the whole…I’m not really a fan of the Kotobukiya Zoids. I’ve always been a fan of the simple but impressive elegance of the originals and the fact that they do more than sit there and look pretty, the “real” Zoids actually move, they’re motorized in some way.
I have this kit, it’s impressive as hell and made for a hellish but awesome challenge as my first ever Kotobukiya kit.
100% agree with you! The motorized or even smaller clockwork Zoids moved , crawled, and generally did so much more than todays static models that need person to "Articulate" give me break! My MAD THUNDER (with variable speed spinning horns of doom) will march on toward these do nothings and turn them into plastic powder.
I'm a huge Zoids fan too but I'm on the opposite side, I prefer the Kotobukiya kits over the Takara ones although I do want them all so in the end I just love Zoids.
Currently in the process of building this one. It's my second HMM model, and it's actually pretty well! Just finished the tail. But, my God.... The tail was a PAIN. I'm glad I dine with that section. Other than that, it's looking pretty cool!
I don't have this kit yet but I want it, I do have the Repackaged version of both the Geno Breaker and Burserk Fury. I do have to replace the Geno Breaker due to my previous landlord assulting me with the box after I had started building it so a lot of pieces are missing, which pisses me off since it was like $180 to get. However the Fury surpringly has amazing joints and is very stable. The kits I have are the regular Shield Liger and the DCS-J model which I thought I'd have a bit more issue with since I had the LIger Zero previously(need to replace since that was also broken by a former roommate prior to the landlord situation and it turns out it was a bootleg anyways). Then I have the Gun Sniper W2 repackaged ver, the guns make it a little bit unstable and it feels very fragile but still good, I have the Lightning Saix repackaged as a replacement of an older one which sucked so I was expecting it to also suck but it didn't, then the Pteras Bomber repackaged(that needed glue on a lot of things and i will not move it unless necessary), the Iguan repackaged ver, the Rev Raptor repackaged, the Fang Tiger(ironically has the best joints), the Dark Horn(has the worst joints feels the most fragile will not move unless necessary), the Storm Sworder(another old kit that needs replacing, I got the original not the repackaged version and it shows), and Braad's Command Wolf(I absolutely hate hate hate the joints since the back left leg does not stay on at all, I plan on replacing it with the repackaged version hoping it has better joints). I do have a ZA kit for the Murasame Liger plus a few Takara kits mainly the Hayate Liger, the Mirage Fox, and 3 of the 1/144th scale ones in the Shield Liger MK-2, the Hammer Rock, and the Great Saber, then I have 5 used Hasbro kits with the Shield Liger, the Sledge Head, the Venomous Viper, the Raynos, and the Rev Raptor. Out of them all the ZA Murasame, and the two Kotobukiya HMMs the Burserk Fury and the Fang Tiger were the best ones to build since the joints gave me the least problems and they feel the sturdiest out of them all.
To be fair, Kotobukiya does include a section at the beginning of the instruction booklet suggesting you use an adhesive. The Lightning Saix had some sections where it was essential that parts were glued.
Not so I've had two LIghtning Saix kits, the first was the original, the second the repackaged version. The original did require a lot of glue but that was because I didn't have the proper tools and I was rushing through it, the second repackaged one I got this year did not need any glue at all and is pretty damn sturdy overall, I can certainly pick it up without worrying something will fall off and I can repose it and "play" with it without issue. It's just about taking your time, not rushing, and have the correct tools and for the most part glue isn't needed.
@@darkhelliadarkfire6109 I'm just referring to sections in the manual like part of the foot assembly where it specifically directed you to use glue. With the kit having swappable claws, it directed you to glue the outer halves of the feet so the claws could be swapped without the feet coming apart/ All in all the Repackaged version went together very nicely without glue and it's a solid build. It doesn't take away from the fact however that the manual suggests using glue for a more sold build . Not sure what you're disputing here.
I'm really happy to see more people reviewing Kotobukiya's HMM Zoids models because they seriously need more recognition as some of the best kits around. I'm hoping that one day they will make more kits because there are other Zoids like the Konig Wolf and Gairyuki Fury that desperately need this. I've already pre-ordered the Geno Breaker Re-package and can't wait for its release this upcoming November :) Thanks for sharing this with us!
Bro the Elphander would be awesome along with a Konig wolg
Bro the Elphander would be awesome along with a Konig wolf
Erick Soler for sure man!
This one looks cool. I was into (mostly BL) zoids before I got into gunpla. The best I got back then was the LeoBlaze from Zoids blox.
Anyways, I hope they make the Spinosaur in HMM. That one looked really good.
Having a high grade kit riding on top of that was something you could do in that very scene.
@15:50 what stand are you using?
I can't wait for you to build that MH LED Mirage by wave! I love the FSS designs, and can't wait for you to review some!
I buy both model kits an action figures and I've seen a few people here on RUclips that don't seem to understand the difference. *cough*Mechagaikotsu*cough* model kits even the best ones aren't nearly as sturdy as action figures. the model kit you reviewed in this video fell apart a few times which is to be expected of a model kit. but if that happened to an action figure then that would be a big QC problem, action figures aren't suppose to fall apart simply by you handling them. when it comes to model kits you are the Quality Control, you're the one that has to fix those problems. if there's something about a model kit you built that you don't like then you should fix it. some people don't understand this though.
To be fair to Mecha, he straight up tells you he's reviewing them as they are out of the box mostly because even the most horrible model can be made into something amazing with enough time, talent, and work. I'd also argue that the line between action figure and model kit is becoming a bit obscured seeing as Bandai goes through so much effort to emphasize good articulation and range of motion (just look at the RG line and the recent MG kits). Even the more recent Koto Zoids kits like the Sturm Tyran have some good range of motion and hold up well without the need of glue to stabilize them.
You definitely got a point, in Mecha's videos the line between action figures and model kits is kinda blurry.
However, in his first review of a Zoid HMM he gave the kit a positive review even though he said that he used a lot of glue to fix it (which he doesn't normally do for his OOB reviews)
Because people are spoiled by bandai kits and expect every single kits out there has the same quality as bandai kit.
I totally disagree with "us" being the quality control.. You're protecting Kotobukiya too much... You're supposed to be satisfied with these types of model kits from the get go... These aren't like Warhammer Model kits where you have to paint and glue together (well at least now they have kits that don't need glue). I have kits from Bandai (SD/HG/MG etc) and Kotobukiya (I have this Geno repackage, Blade liger repackage and even Megaman).. I've also seen other reviews of this kit or just Kotobukiya's kits reviews in general.. Koto and Bandai's quality are worlds apart.. Kotobukiya kits are NOTORIOUS for falling apart because they are using an ancient style of engineering/ designing.. In this day and age, if you're going manufacture kits that are meant to be articulated, wouldn't it make sense to design it so that it doesn't fall apart when the consumer articulates it??
Bandai improved their kits, they listened to their consumer just look at their RG line.. When that line started it, it just crumbles as you touch it (I have the GP01 FB, man I wanted to throw it away when I assembled it LOL).. Bandai has improved their RG line ever since... Meanwhile in Kotobukiya's side, since they know that people will buy their kits regardless, they just don't give a crap about improving their engineering to be at least on par let alone be better than Bandai... I mean it's working, I have their kits even though I know that their quality isn't as good as Bandai's so there's that LOL...
@@fantastiCkiLler92 Why I don't get is why Kotobukiya can't make their kits as good as Bandai is. I mean in terms of plastic quality and construction integrity. Sure Kotobukiya is good on model details but I won't spend money on a grenade that explodes every time you pose it. Plus they're so expensive compared to Bandai so I expect a better quality kit.
Does it have something to do with intellectual property thing or its just a hubris? "Oh model kits are supposed to be glued like this and that. It's not a LEGO!" Things like that.
I love Zoids and the design of the HMM models but I gave up on them for a couple reasons.
1) They were uber expensive until these repackaged versions came out
2) Lots of them are insufferable hand Grenades that fall apart wayyyyyyyyy to easy (I'm looking at you Gun Sniper Leena Special).
3) The builds are unnecessary long even though I loved building them I gotta admit some parts are just like why?
I will probably buy some in the future just cause how much I use to love Zoids and they are such amazing display pieces but for now my priority are the new Digimon Figure Arts Amplified Kits
I'll be getting a zoids HMM model kit soon. Do you recommend any tools, like pliers, filers, or something else?
glue. definitely glue.
I made a Zoids Dragon by combining parts from the Storm Sworder, Geno Breaker, and an option head part!
Nice!
Darn you, I was getting away from these kind of things, and now I need to make a diorama of this fighting a couple of Japanese type 74 tanks, and support infantry.
I miss my old walking Elephander. That was fun to build.
Is there meant to be some random extra pieces that don't get used or did my idiot self miss those steps at some point reading the manual 😆 Pieces G 9, 11 & 15 & Z2 3
I'm kinda scared to try building a zoid at this time, so I'll wait to do so until I know I'm ready to do so; what scares me is the possible skill level to build it.
Wow! Thank you for pointing out thoughts about model kit versus a toy hahahaha! Thank you for the review :)
I NEED A ZOID NOW
these things used to be cheaper when I was a kid LOL. Still have most of my old battery operated zoids. you should get the Genobreaker zaku. It's the upgrade of the genosaurer
Those still exist and are still as cheap as they always were. You seem to be confusing these hmm kits from kotobukiya for the takara tomy toys :p
I don't understand English, but I enjoy watching the video
Thank you!
It's gorgeous
Bro your hair and face shape reminded me of that specific titan from AOT
Yeah I do love me some zoids!
Definitely unrelated, but I hope you get around to that Megami Device Asra Nine Tails kit behind you soon. I have mine still in the cellophane, but I'd love to see a review from you of it.
I just built it! I’ll review it probably on Monday or Tuesday
This is supposed to be one of the more fragile ones so pretty much as expected :) seems cool! And holds its poses well enough so far!
Seems weird to me that its more expensive than the beserk fuhrer though, that one is a fair amount bigger....guess the armaments are a bit simpler so maybe thats the reason?
The reason the Beserk Fuhrer isn't more expensive is because 1) its not as iconic as the Geno Saurer and 2) even though it's bigger it doesn't have more armaments and the joints are far less prone to popping off plus it's a relatively newer kit.
I've been looking at a bunch of hmm kits, thinking about getting the lightning saix for my first kit, idk yet tho
I’ve heard that’s a great one in the line!
dat boi look gud
He gud
Awesome model kit! too bad Gundamstores web site is trash tho, when you type in "zoids" it always comes up with zords 😂 than the menus wont work.. wow. Great review tho!
Yeah... as mentioned, zoid kits can’t be sold there or any other US retailer because of licensing. But they’re gracious enough to support me sharing a product with you guys (even one they can’t sell) just for the review to be out there as a resource for the community. But yeah trash website and all I getcha
@Mr. LHD6 he got it from them, because they played favorites and they wanted to get noticed.. But they wont sale to anyone else or just dont sale zoids.
Hi I got a question one of my friends is building the geno saurer he lost the one of the parts of the backpack the gun and he likes to know where he can get it online here in the United States
I’m not sure if Kotobukiya has any part replacement services in the US. Best bet would be to contact the shop he bought the kit from and they might be able to help.
I really hope SuperNove will be making one for the GenoSaurer
Thanks for your sharing! It’s nice video! ❤️❤️❤️
I still have the TAKARA TOMY of this one, got it in 2001. The motor and led lights is still working but the fuse for the motor that made it run slower gave out. So now my geno saurer is now walking at a fast mode 😂....
Looks like a decepticon Grimlock
Where is the zoids playlist on this channel? Anyone know?
Love the design of this kit but it 100% needs glue. Built up the Bone color ver and it was a nightmare to even touch without gluing allot of the body, tail, and arm sections. It is a seriously good looking kit though and I have some good ideas for a couple of customs I can make with it.
I like putting my RG Exia on my Blade liger
Geno Breaker next!
I like to know when USA Gundam is going to have zoids on sale
Plaza Japan has a bunch, that's where I got mine
Do you have wetside page
Please review Super Nova's Berserk Fuhrer. 😊 Or any Super Nova Zoids kit.
Still waiting for Kotobukiya to release Zoids HMM Ultrasaurus with Gravity cannon
The moment they make an HMM version of the Death Saurer is the moment I become religious again.
The problem that this kit has is understandable because it is indeed the 4th kit in the HMM line. I expect the Geno Breaker has the similar issue which I want to get.
Just ordered the HMM Berserk Fuhrer and can't wait for it.
叶川ヒロ Ok, Weeaboo
Is it just me or your top right shelf is getting emptier 🤔
Time to stock up again zak! 🤣
Got a package arriving tomorrow 😅
Honestly I barely have space for large mgs so I dunno how hard this build is
How do I tell the repackaged version apart from the original?
It's in the box, there's a "repackage ver." in the front of the cover. The content is the same expect the repackage ver. got more decal and marking I guess
It's says that on the box.
Is that dont have motor??
No motor
@@ZakuAurelius thank you so mush to your answer then, are they HMM zoids series all don't have motor??
so cool
My friend has this kit and it fell apart on him, I looked into it and yeah same verdict, unstable design, but I do have the death stinger and it was pretty solid, maybe it was just the older designs of saurer kits that suffered, interested to see how the hmm berserk furhrer will build *wink wink
Yeah death stinger is one of the more recent ones
oh dear god, @zakuaurelius what about that pg unleashed? seems like nothing really outstanding, BUT THEN............................................... hahaha
cant wait to see what your thoughts are on that one, man
Man, if only they were cheaper.
Yeah, the actual retail price is actually pretty understandable because it's a kotobukiya kit and not bandai. But damn the price on the market tho, the reseller just pump it up a lot
Do you mean the retail price or the 2nd market price? I got mine for retail price through HLJ and the price is fine for what you are getting..
Are you talking about the reseller price? If so yes, fucking expensive when I looked at the Berserk Fuhrer.....and out of stock everywhere. The MSRP isn't that bad tho...
is there BL kits of Zoids beside the Ligers?
Don’t know but based on how finicky the legit kits are I wouldn’t mess with a bootleg 😬
@@ZakuAurelius Zoids are just too pricey for me. :/
btw how do I deal with stressed plastic on a leg connector?
@@wastedsoul1024 If you want to reinforce it you could drill the centre of the peg with a pin vice and insert a bit of brass rod with super glue, that should stop it snapping. As far as the BL zoids kits go, I honestly wouldn't bother. The BL Liger I built needed every single peg hole re-drilling and the plastic was brittle as hell. If you're determined to get one, check out the Supernova ones, the plastic quality is decent and they're original designs, not cheap mold rips.
@@haroldharcourt Nah its for my RG Nu, the hole that the peg connects on the waist has stressmarks around it.
I used to mess with zoids when i was a kid, nice
Dabed lost aren't you still, a kid? .... 🙄😆
Are you telling me that this expensive pile of plastic bits and bobs doesn't have a battery operated articulation engine with lights and integrated weapons? So you are paying for a static model that you can articulate...???
That's not the Zoids I grew up with! The Zoids in my day (of MAD THUNDER VINTAGE ) ALL had either battery powered engines or Windup Clockwork motors ...that showed their fantastic articulation of cogs , gears and pistons as they moved, brandished active weapons , opened jaws, spun their horns , flashed lighted eyes and all in all were beautifully made models that were powered to show just how much detail and work had gone into their movements and actions.
But now you are paying big money for a static Model that you advise to glue some parts of it because they don't hold...despite not even MOVING!
Geez people...seems people accept a lot less for their money these days ~
It’s a model kit, not a toy. 🤷♂️
@@ZakuAurelius, yes...it is ...they are Model Kits...but the original Zoid model kits that started this genre that 40 years later continues to delight and interest so many...goes from strength to strength.
But EVERY single Zoid model kit that started, began and seeded the Zoid Franchise way back then ...were self articulating Models that either through Battery engines ...lights and integrated pistons ,movements from tail to neck to jaw and horn or windup clockwork Zoids that crawled ,hopped,slithered etc etc ...
From THE MAD THUNDER ZOID ...down to a clockwork Seashell/ Hermit Crab ...they began the Zoid Revolution and inspired it to be what every Zoid aficionado collects and builds and when complete takes pride of place and is displayed and proudly showing one and all what they created...and made from whichever Zoid model kit or kits they have now made which is their Zoid Collection ...and which will continue to grow as new Zoids enter into the ranks as each year goes by .
The Zoid Progenitors that began it all ...which moved about and and made each and every one of them... The Founding Zoid Father's of all what and which so many enjoy as they build and make the franchise what it is today .
Moving parts ,functions and other powered features DO NOT make the first founding Zoids a kids toy...they were Model Kits with more to offer that made them what they were and what they " did"
Which was enough to make them found a line of Zoids that grew to become what they are today.
Not a kids toy each and every one ..but model kits that make a Zoid and it's proud Maker Display what he has built and tells the World look upon this Masterpiece
Just finally finished and mounted this very Day,
My Zoid , my opus ,my passion is here for all to see and Stay,
I'm proud of what I've made so join my cheer and shout with me Well done ! Hip Hip Hooray!
Yes. But for the price that now most many must and gladly Pay ,
Why not their Pride Achievement ,move legs as weapons twirl ,as other lift up and down whilst other side to side their mighty weapons as tails on many Sway??
All make and made a Zoid not toys to delight and which each were never not for any child to play ...
These Models ...Masterpiece moving and much more than inert models so fine on stand Display...
True Ligers go where each was meant to go ...not Stay.
These Zoids built to hunt and destroy whatever was their Prey.
The first Zoids all which moved and did their each and every spin move,open close ...each Way...
Inspired and made the Zoids all love. ..what they are Today.
And ask those first ones each and every single one were active Black or White ...and none were ever static ...for Zoids no zone is Grey.
haba amputa
cool vid but why do you wear an apron lol
For serious building!
(To hide that I’m wearing the same shirt in multiple videos in a row because I record them on the same day but posting them on different days makes it look like I wear the same shirt for a week)
The, "it's a model kit", defense doesn't work as well when you have the advances in kits we've seen in the last decade. They were lazy/cheap and reissued old kits without updating any of the issues. Kits that fall apart like this, shouldn't be this expensive. I don't need it to be a toy, but I would like to be able to touch it without it exploding.
I have this problem with a lot of Kotobukiya stuff. It seems incredibly over priced for what you get.
Looks like Trypticon from Transformers
Ikr
Not heard of zoids until recently I am interested but seems like a kids show.
They need to age it up.
Skip the Genobreaker kit, u can thank me later.
Why? Im planning to get one next month
@@wawan1562 the kit is fun and looks gorgeous, just like the video, it can barely play with, the jetpack is heavy. Only for the old kit, seems like the new repackage one have fixing some issues. U can try it.
@@josemerced595 thanks mate also what do u think about death stinger by supernova over the hmm one
@@wawan1562 i dont have it, u could watch video about that, but I bet it is not a bootleg one. Its like other third party manufactures doing great stuffs
Its a great model and all but thst tiny joint connecting the main two body parts is very badly designed. Thats where Super Glue becomes your best friend.
you cant excuse a kit by saying "oh, bandai is just too good, so you people get spoiled"
if bandai its the best, then thats the standar, so if they are charging so much money , they should be held to the same standar
There are other factors in price that I feel like you’re ignoring
@@ZakuAurelius 2 things
1 that was your excuse for a kit that falls apart
2 i cant count engenering, cuz its a reprint and falls apart, i can only count prodution cost, and bandai has the same or similar costs, and yet you can buy 1 or more same quality kits or better, for the same price
@@ZakuAurelius as a building kit, zoids are fun, plus the newer ones dont have the same flaws and are more affordable, so i know they can do better, the old kits are unexcusable and only recomendable if you are a fan or you realy like the looks (wich i do, soon i will get a blade liger)
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
*swirl*