Silage pile discovery! **[ UNPLEASANTLY SHOCKING!

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  • @shoresharp8349
    @shoresharp8349 3 месяца назад +15

    Micah my uncle has had a silage pit made out of telephone poles and plywood with a concrete floor. We woukd let the plastic hang down the walls and on the concrete floor. He never would add salt etc he woukd onky do that when mixing the silage and hay etc. Looks to me it got wet covering the silage every nite is critical also we woukd never stop packing the silage I suggest next yr you or a son stay on the tractor packing the pile at all times until you coverit at nite. Always try to chop corn for a silage pile around 60percent moisture and don't let it get wet until it has fermented. They keep around 100 Angus on the farm. You have to find what works best for your operation.

  • @joeydalia2572
    @joeydalia2572 2 месяца назад +1

    Love your videos and what you’re teaching us and your kids.
    Two things I would have done differently is, 1st I would use the silver side of that tarp to help mitigate the heat from the sun and 2nd I would invest in the larger concrete blocks for walls. You could probably have several with the money spent on the wood. I think the pile is fine, the mold is just from the plywood

  • @reavisstockard2994
    @reavisstockard2994 3 месяца назад +13

    My heart just sank when I saw the rotten silage y’all worked so hard for.

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +4

      I’m definitely hoping it’s just on the outside!!!

    • @JBlow-ip7hf
      @JBlow-ip7hf 3 месяца назад +5

      Ditto my heart sank too.

    • @duncand5148
      @duncand5148 3 месяца назад +1

      @@reavisstockard2994 Mine too. But I picked it back up fast because I really don’t think all is lost. 🙏🏽

    • @duncand5148
      @duncand5148 3 месяца назад +4

      Mine did too. But I picked it back up pretty fast because I don’t think that rot will be inside the pile. 🙏🏽

    • @danielthomason5685
      @danielthomason5685 3 месяца назад +3

      Corn was a little green for silage chopping from what it looks like and I definitely wouldn't add the dried molasses till time to mix feed ration

  • @matthewe1266
    @matthewe1266 3 месяца назад +2

    Probably a combination of both the rain and air getting to it to make it spoil like that. It might help to dig a pit lined with tarps. Pack it tight and cover it real good so water and air can't get to it.

  • @MirnesSulejmanovic
    @MirnesSulejmanovic 3 месяца назад +2

    I worked at a few dairy farms back in my younger days. But the farms had concrete bunkers but we would line the walls with the clear plastic so concrete wouldnt draw the moisture out of the corn and cause mold. Im thinking the plywood drew moisture outta the corn and caused it to mold. As far as adding salt to the silage doesn’t hurt anything. We live and we learn brother that is life I’m sure you’ll salvage the most outta that pile. God bless and keep up the great videos brother!

  • @JasonGirten
    @JasonGirten Месяц назад +1

    We used to use mold inhibitor in some of the feeds we used to mix. That might be something to look into.

  • @cory9884
    @cory9884 3 месяца назад +4

    I helped a dairy farmer cover his silage a few times. We didn't use heavy tarps. It was a 2 part system with a light clear plastic film then a second white plastic film. The first one somehow suctioned itself down on the corn real tight. I'm pretty sure it was manufactured specifically for silage to keep the air out better. Idk what a roll costs but it'd probley last you've few seasons.

  • @jenkins2162
    @jenkins2162 3 месяца назад +5

    The mold and rot isn't going to hurt a thing from my experience. I worked at a UGA research dairy in college. I would get loads of it to be mixed in the morning. It always has a good bit of terrible smelling, wet, moldy silage. Heck I thought it wasn't good silage unless it was like that.

  • @AaricHale
    @AaricHale 3 месяца назад +4

    I enjoyed the video ! I sure hope it will be good still and not rot . You guys worked so hard for it to go bad . Thanks for sharing and have a great day !

  • @jackkeeble9272
    @jackkeeble9272 3 месяца назад +3

    Hope it works out man thanks for the video

  • @irmahardnett
    @irmahardnett 3 месяца назад +1

    🙏Praying & hope you will be able to save some of the silage , you guy's put in a lot of hard work building the pile got my fingers crossed🙏

  • @thomasg4324
    @thomasg4324 2 месяца назад +2

    *WHAT WE DO:*
    *We create ramps on both sides up to the middle of the silage pile, using wood boards braced with Tposts cross tied to the other side using yellow trucker ratchet straps through the pile.* Instead of creating a blunt end, try leaving both sides open, and then drive your tractor up and over. It is kind of scary using the entire tractor weight, and trusting those straps to NOT give way on one side...flipping your tractor. But it maximizes the compression in the middle, and allows the sides to get solid for form removal. The shape naturally sheds water from rain, and within the 'block', so you get minimal spilage at the tail ends. *Lastly.....don't feed the aerobic bacteria with sugar this early. You want to encourage anaerobaic bacteria to surpass the aerobic, by leaving the molasses for feeding time in the winter. JUST SALT (we use Redmonds) THE PILE.*
    LASTLY....
    If you have many IBC totes...you can use the totes, filled with salted water, to act as the forms on both sides...silage tarp encassing the entire pile, and then truck ratchet straps holding the entire package together around it all. The frames of the IBC totes are incredible strong, won't rot, and you could use the lightly salted water for the cattle in the winter. #AllGloryToLordJesusChrist

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  2 месяца назад

      That is some great advice for creating a silage pile! Thank you for sharing your experience!

  • @Sugarloafhomestead
    @Sugarloafhomestead 3 месяца назад +1

    The ply wood was a good idea to help form it but from some of moisture in the corn and heat it puts off cause it to sweat you will still have a good yield to feed with

  • @jasonviking
    @jasonviking Месяц назад +1

    Maybe look into old damaged Shipping Containers in your area. Could be cheaper in the long term instead of replacing plywood & tarps every few years. Would be better against rain & wind. Big enough to drive your frontal loader into scoop up the Silage all the way into the Shipping Container. Also can prevent attracting rodents & insects/disease.

  • @Kronkus36
    @Kronkus36 3 месяца назад +1

    You need to build a cement silage pit McGie, a smaller version of course !

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +1

      I might!

    • @Kronkus36
      @Kronkus36 3 месяца назад +1

      @McGieHomesteadAdventures you'll be allot happier that way, Don't know how much concrete runs where you are but in the long run it'll be there forever. Great job to all of you Micah !!

  • @longbowbanjoAL
    @longbowbanjoAL 3 месяца назад +1

    well that was a vacuum situation

  • @gadawgs8911
    @gadawgs8911 3 месяца назад +1

    My guess is the heat from the silage made the plywood sweat and caused that outer layer to mold from being wet. I'd bet inside that layer a little ways will be ok. Just my theory!

  • @joecruggle7638
    @joecruggle7638 3 месяца назад +2

    Plywood uses phenol-formaldehyde resin as the glue to hold the wood pieces together. That resin is water-resistant. Like many are saying, it's holding the moisture in against the silage and causing mold. Thinking (and hoping) that the inner parts of the pile will be okay.

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      I’m hoping! Well show the results either way!

    • @soyoucametosee7860
      @soyoucametosee7860 3 месяца назад

      ​@@McGieHomesteadAdventures don't bother with this pile. There will be a lot of mold you can not see.

  • @fldays6798
    @fldays6798 3 месяца назад +3

    Man that was quite the process for a take down.
    its definitely a learning process making silage I was wondering if next time you lined the bottom and sides with tarps so as you move on the silage is protected from the elements just thinking out loud .
    Thanks for sharing keep the cameras rolling from Florida.

  • @vadimdubitskiy9854
    @vadimdubitskiy9854 3 месяца назад +4

    We make pits in the ground for silage.

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +2

      Around here it would fill with water

    • @vadimdubitskiy9854
      @vadimdubitskiy9854 3 месяца назад +1

      @@McGieHomesteadAdventures The pit is concreted or waterproofed. Or the cheapest option, the bottom and sides of the pit are lined with oilcloth, and then wrapped on top of the silo. If the terrain is too wet, a concrete platform with concrete sides is concreted.

  • @EthanPDobbins
    @EthanPDobbins 3 месяца назад +1

    Maybe a log cabin style timber or concrete, or block or stacked rock & mortar silage bunk would be better in the future to prevent the leany-waviness. Or posts and old barn roof metal might do it. Concrete floor might help keep the bottom and make it easier to scoop if you wanna be fancy. That tarp that's big enough to cover the whole thing to keep water getting in around the sides woulda probably helped a lot if it was on there before the rain could get in.
    For that bad silage they'll usually eat it anyways if you mix it up with some grain mash . But hopefully there's better stuff inside. It should be good underneath.
    That's an awful lot of work to lose a crop to rot! I'd almost wonder if it'd be more worth it to just hay the ground that's being used for corn & buy in bag corn to give them some more carbohydrates instead.
    Or fence it off and let them graze the corn. Or hay it in the spring then fence off the second or third cutting for winter grazing. Just spitballing ideas. That's kinda what I'm doing now. I found the whole silage thing not to be quite worth it for me. But I can't grow quite as much as you have been doing. And i have never packed it just wrapped in plastic and covered with tires.

  • @duncand5148
    @duncand5148 3 месяца назад +8

    Morning. That rot shouldn’t be towards the center of the pile? Looks like water ran down the side of that plywood. I imagine the tarp should have gone over the walls like I see those guys with the big silage piles do. Too bad you didn’t have the silage tarp when you started. It would have gone over the walls nicely and no water would have ran down the inside of the walls. Also maybe you need to build a dedicated silage bin made out of those blocks that they use to build silage pits or the garden centers use to pile their mulch. Those are my thoughts. Everything in this life is a learning process and we all are a work in progress. 👍🏽

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +2

      Yes it’s a learning curve and I sure hope the edges are the only thing affected!!!

    • @duncand5148
      @duncand5148 3 месяца назад +2

      @@McGieHomesteadAdventures I’m hoping so too. We all put a lot of work into what we do. I still think since you are a dedicated silage maker, you should consider a dedicated silage bin/pit. But as my Poppa would often tell me, “suit yourself”. 😂👍🏽

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +2

      It’ll be considered carefully!!

    • @duncand5148
      @duncand5148 3 месяца назад +2

      @@McGieHomesteadAdventures Good answer 😂😂😂. For the last 30 minutes I’ve been looking it up, and those blocks aren’t cheap. IDK. All I want is for you to be safe and successful. 👍🏽 And also I was wrong about over the walls. It runs down the inside of the walls right down to the base; in you case the ground. Anywho, have a great day and I’ll see you on the next video. 😂👍🏽❤️

    • @duncand5148
      @duncand5148 3 месяца назад +1

      @@McGieHomesteadAdventures totally unrelated to this video, but I’ve been meaning to ask for the longest time. Whatever happened to Aftermath the guard dog? Is he still around?

  • @dakata160
    @dakata160 3 месяца назад +3

    I hope everything is fine, because it was a lot of hard work, I think water got between the wood and the selage.And that's where the mold came from. I hope everything is fine.

  • @midwayfarms
    @midwayfarms 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video

  • @terrylee7627
    @terrylee7627 3 месяца назад +4

    Hopefully it is just the edges. Don't think you could get close enough to the edge to pack it tight

  • @vacone1
    @vacone1 3 месяца назад +1

    The plywood is okay if lining the inside contact face with cheap tarp.

  • @susanvaughn741
    @susanvaughn741 3 месяца назад +1

    I’m guessing your got the compost for next year worked out.

  • @joemisak7925
    @joemisak7925 3 месяца назад +2

    Wonder if you spray that mold with vinegar it will kill it ?

  • @kenduke5919
    @kenduke5919 3 месяца назад +1

    thats mold from the wood

  • @drewwagner9584
    @drewwagner9584 3 месяца назад +1

    Where did you get the tarp and how much was it?

  • @quentinjackson3778
    @quentinjackson3778 3 месяца назад +1

    Hey when my brother and I did my bathroom over we used this concrete boarding for the shower maybe next time you can try that or wrap /cover the plywood in plastic before you fill /compact

  • @charlesmoore5840
    @charlesmoore5840 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow that was a lot of work

  • @MynewTennesseeHome
    @MynewTennesseeHome 3 месяца назад +1

    I hope it's not as bad as it looks. 🙏

  • @lesterhertel2945
    @lesterhertel2945 3 месяца назад +2

    Wow

  • @DKTT-p8m
    @DKTT-p8m 3 месяца назад +1

    I thought that making the wall was a good idea.
    The mound method would cap most of the silage ; just like the old time hay stacks.

  • @terrybeazley7414
    @terrybeazley7414 3 месяца назад +1

    Could the wood hold to much heat maybe ? Hopefully just the edge

  • @toddfriley9373
    @toddfriley9373 3 месяца назад +1

    Are you in a low spot? Could the water be wicking up? See if you can buy old advertising billboards tarps.

  • @Missourioutdoors1
    @Missourioutdoors1 3 месяца назад +1

    Not a expert on this but could it be because of the plywood it couldn’t breath and stay dry?

  • @FirstLast-if3ht
    @FirstLast-if3ht 3 месяца назад +1

    Did the plywood absorb too much water when it rained? I love how you handled that when you first saw it. No cussing, or anger or anything. Just taking punches and moving forward. Hopefully it's only on the outside.

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +1

      I’m fairly level headed 😂😂😂 nothing can be gained by going crazy.

  • @beeamerica5024
    @beeamerica5024 3 месяца назад +1

    Maybe the resin in the plywood reacted with the sugar

  • @RaymondHayesRay
    @RaymondHayesRay 3 месяца назад +1

    You should not have put the malases and Salt on when you were packing it. When I was a lot younger we tried that method and ended up getting rid of a hole pit worth of silage.

  • @blueridgehomestead566
    @blueridgehomestead566 3 месяца назад +2

    Looks like a bit of water damage to me. I believe you are good to go McGie!

  • @ChuckisOutside
    @ChuckisOutside 3 месяца назад +1

    What if you spray the mold with vinegar?

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      I’d think it would help!

    • @markalan1501
      @markalan1501 3 месяца назад +1

      Don't do that. The molds not going to hurt a cow. Don't give it to a horse.

  • @thecamocowboyoutdoors5693
    @thecamocowboyoutdoors5693 3 месяца назад +1

    That is disheartening, Brother.
    Not sure why that happened. I know that people up here that make silage, and they will even make it in the rain, providing it doesn't get to wet that they can't get into the field with the equipment.
    Hopefully you don't get to much spoilage.
    Best wishes to you folks.

  • @fredfable5655
    @fredfable5655 3 месяца назад +1

    Is that the same silage you salted a lot?
    Might be the reason is draining so much water everywhere... I don't know...thats too much water inside something it was covered. Looks like " the salad effect".
    Regards.

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +1

      I’m thinking that if the plywood was removed right away it wouldn’t have molded.

    • @fredfable5655
      @fredfable5655 3 месяца назад +1

      @@McGieHomesteadAdventures Yeah, that might be right, but with such amount of salt inside you still have enough moisture to grow portabella mushrooms...

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      Yes indeed! But if I’ve packed it properly there’s no oxygen to cause problems.

  • @Telluridepilot
    @Telluridepilot 3 месяца назад +3

    You had a good idea but a few hiccups caused the mold. I think using the wood chipper took the moisture that was in the plants leaving much less than if left whole. Running the tractor over the material will break down the stalks and corn cobs sufficiently to initiate fermentation tIf it were me I’d dig a ramp hole 6 or 8 feet deep and the width of a bucket and a half wide and angling down from ground level to the 6 or 8 feet like an underground ramp. It makes for easier compaction with the tractor. Eliminate the salt. I feel it drew the moisture out of the fibers and the corn and sped up and promoted the mold growth. Misting down every few layers will promote fermentation seeing that you’re using well or spring water nd some southerners know about good spring water and fermentation. Maybe you should look into the cost of yeast in bulk instead of molasses. The large tarp you have looks big enough to cover the hole I mentioned on all 4 sides leaving plenty of room beyond the edges so rain water won’t get in and make a mess. Just some thoughts. I’m sure you’d viewers have good ideas as well. Good luck with the current batch.

  • @davidfairless19
    @davidfairless19 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi New Subscriber here , love your channel ! there are different types of plywood , treated with different chemicals. Heat treated wood and Marine plywood come to mind . This may cause a reaction . Hope for the best ! David

  • @troydixon9019
    @troydixon9019 3 месяца назад +1

    You have to be careful with plywood sometimes it has formaldehyde in it.

  • @lisagreenarch6878
    @lisagreenarch6878 3 месяца назад +1

    Why do U put sugar in it?

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      It was one bag of dry molasses that was given to me……. I’m pretty sure the cows will love it.

    • @Creamcan2105
      @Creamcan2105 3 месяца назад +1

      Sugar aids the microbes in fermentation. The salt has me confused though…

  • @burntchurch
    @burntchurch 3 месяца назад +1

    I think that rot and discoloration is probly just the plywood molding I bet it is just on the surface next to the plywood 🤞atleast I hope its just on the surface stay safe brother

  • @Creamcan2105
    @Creamcan2105 3 месяца назад +2

    Why not make a drive over pile? Save your plywood for a construction project.
    Your mold appears to be from lack of moisture content of your silage. That can be remedied next year by chopping earlier or adding water to the pile with a sprinkler while chopping. Your moisture level of product should be 64-70% moisture. If you can see the mold it’s not as toxic to cattle as the molds (colostridia) that you CAN’T see. Live and learn so you don’t have the same mistake next year👍

  • @randyabernathy1958
    @randyabernathy1958 3 месяца назад +2

    Everyone's i see they had a concrete slab, never seen anyone put anything on it, just pack it and cover it real good, God's blessings

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +1

      Yes I have done it without any additional salt or molasses…….. but that wasn’t the problem here……. Next year I’ll know more than I did this year!

    • @randyabernathy1958
      @randyabernathy1958 3 месяца назад +1

      @@McGieHomesteadAdventures Amen, God is faithful

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      Yes He is! The rain He’s giving us right now is absolutely priceless!

  • @BubaLabinski223
    @BubaLabinski223 3 месяца назад +1

    Brother Micah his brother Jeff I believe the salt might started the erosion it could’ve been the molasses maybe a combination I hope it isn’t black mold do you know what else I think he could be? I could be treated lumber and the chemicals and plus the salt and the molasses didn’t agree with the treated plywood I just hope it didn’t ruin your silage

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      Me too brother! I’m gonna be hurting if winter comes around and there’s no silage!😂😂😂

    • @BubaLabinski223
      @BubaLabinski223 3 месяца назад

      @@McGieHomesteadAdventures well I got you in my prayers and I pray you don’t lose it

  • @MattgIH
    @MattgIH 3 месяца назад +1

    Next time build a permanent bunk like you did and line it with a non porous tarp or plastic, your spoilage will be minimal. Plain wood will not keep out air.

  • @bryansloesshillshomestead4523
    @bryansloesshillshomestead4523 3 месяца назад

    Hopefully the mold doesn't go all the way through the pile.

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      I sure hope not! That would be a lot of loss! Good fertilizer, but loss nonetheless!

  • @jerrykates4601
    @jerrykates4601 3 месяца назад +1

    Where I come from

  • @thereelnredneck
    @thereelnredneck 3 месяца назад +1

    I was expecting a big Rattlesnake

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      That would have made my day!😂😂😂

    • @irmahardnett
      @irmahardnett 3 месяца назад

      @@McGieHomesteadAdventures extra piece of meat on the plate , they say rattlesnakes taste like chicken never eaten any😂

  • @meliciarichards9249
    @meliciarichards9249 3 месяца назад +1

    Good looking pile of silage

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +1

      It’s not what I’d hoped for but we’ll see when we start digging into it!

    • @meliciarichards9249
      @meliciarichards9249 3 месяца назад +1

      @@McGieHomesteadAdventures may need to air it for a day on the side. Idk if that would hurt it or not. Hopefully it don't spread the bad spot.n

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      Yes indeed!

  • @soyoucametosee7860
    @soyoucametosee7860 3 месяца назад +2

    This is a mess. Plywood is not a good choice for silage.
    Get the silage wrapped in plastic in bales next time. It must be air tight. NO HOLES.
    The rot is cause by air getting into the pile.
    That top layer that smells sweet has Carmelized and has lost most all its feed value.
    This pile is a total loss.
    You wasted a lot of money by not studying how to make silage first.
    Hope you are not dropping those screws and nails in that silage. Your animals can get hardware disease from ingesting metal.
    There is nothing in that pile worth killing your cattle for.

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the tips!

    • @awm5198
      @awm5198 3 месяца назад +1

      A total loss? I doubt that, it should be fine a couple inches in.

    • @McGieHomesteadAdventures
      @McGieHomesteadAdventures  3 месяца назад +1

      One thing about me….. I’ll show it good or bad……. And if it’s a total loss …. So be it, but if not, it makes these strong statements look pretty silly 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mec4lifesmiley700
    @mec4lifesmiley700 3 месяца назад +1

    First. 530 mec4life.